And now I would like YOU to have a firsthand opportunity to see if
I'm a nitwit as well, as I've been made out to be for many a moon
in the sci. news groups.
I hereby extend a personal invitation to have you visit Shenandoah,
Pa., and see for yourself exactly what I have discovered between
anthracite veins.
You will be welcome to bring one person with you, providing it is not
Atty. David Sienkiewicz, the King of Liars and Champion of Character
Assassins. I'd relish if you'd bring someone from the Smithsonian
Institution but that's entirely up to you.
I want you to know that I bear no personal animosity against employees
of the Smithsonian because I have long realized there is little they
can do about the terrible stench they're working in, being required
to follow orders.
Following your visit, Phil, you will be free to write about what you
saw and didn't see. If you wish, I will promise NOT to respond to
your posting in sci.anthropology.paleo (or in any news groups, for
that matter).
I really feel that, the Shit Disturber that YOU are, you possess the
courage to pay the visit and, upon your return, be your own man
and call a spade a spade.
Over these past 22 years -- since first finding fossils in coal seams
that just didn't fit in with the scientific textbooks, then being
sarcastically told by Omniscient Academia that I was wrong --
I readily admit I could've put my tail between my legs and meekly
walked away.
But perserverence, determination, courage and a tin ear never allowed
me to throw in the towel. And it's quite obvious I never will.
Meanwhile, I simply ask: DO NOT visit Shenandoah for me, Phil.
And don't make the trip for yoursellf or for sci.anthropology.paleo.
<
Pay your visit out of a sense of duty and respect for the sacred name
of Science whose name has been tarnished but some day hopefully
will shine in Truth once again.
<
Also do it for your grandchildren -- and their's. They deserve nothing
less.
<
Sincerely,
Ed Conrad
<
> =================================================
You had never respond, Philip Deitiker.
<.
Is it because you're AFRAID that you've been wrong all these
years, backed up only by rhetoric wrapped around half-truths?
<
I had given you an golden opportunity to learn, at least
in your heart, that you've been preaching false doctrine on
sci.anthropology.paleo and elsewhere all these years.
>
The invitation has run out, Philip Dietiker. You're
no longer welcome. Now gGo find a hole and crawl in.
>
> =====================================
<
> "Ridicule is the argument
> of the mob."
> -- Immanuel Velikovsky
>
Philip Deitiker, all hail the Master of Ridicule
You see, he just loves using an ungolden rule.
And why Phil's addiction
To half-truths and fiction?
Vested interests! Hell, he's worse than a mule.
>
>> =============================================
><
>> MONUMENTAL CONSPIRACY AGAINST TRUTH
>
>> =============================================
><
>> Petrified Bones, Teeth and Even Soft Organs
>> (Some Human) Discoverd in Carboniferous Strata
>>
>><==============================================
>>>
>>> HUMAN SKULL FOUND BETWEEN COAL VEINS
>>
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/images/z11calv.jpg
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/images/krogwskull.jpg
>>>
>>Wilton Krogman, one of the world's foremost experts
>>on human anatomy, holds what he had identified as
>>a petrified human calvarium, a skull with the eye
>>sockets broken off, that was discovered between
>>Pennsylvania's anthracite veins. He is shown at his
>>desk at the Cooper Clinic in Lancaster, Pa., where
>>moments later he beckoned a colleague -- a medical
>>doctor -- to examine "the oldest human skull ever
>>found."
>><
>>A CATscan was performed on this specimen with
>>favorable results.
>><
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/images/catcalv.jpg
>><
>>Meanwhile, Haversian canals were identified in the
>>cell structue, the tell-tale sign of bone. And dried
>>blood was found on the specimen during testing at
>>American Medical Laboratories in Chantilly, Va.
>><
>>This is the official report from AML which had
>>erformed Calculus Analysis by Crystallography.
>>The final report, dated April 21, 2000, was issued
>>by Dr. Nathan Sherman, director of laboratories.
>>
>>> "The specimen consists of 1 irregularly
>>> shaped, brown calculus weighing less
>>> than 0.0010 grams and measuring 1X1X0.5
>>> mm. No nidus is observed. The calculi
>>> indicates a composition of dried blood
>>> intermingled with a few small crystals
>>> resembling calcium oxalate dihydrate."
>>>
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/images/z12calv.jpg
>>>
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/images/z13cav.jpg
>>>
>>=============================================
>>>
>>> OTHER PETRIFIED BONES, TEETH AND
>>> SOFT ORGANS FOUND BETWEEN COAL VEINS
>><
>>>Here's a petrified human femur still embedded in slate.
>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/z8femur.jpg
>>><
>>>Here's a petrified human finger, with fingernail:
>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/FINGER/MVC-008S.JPG
>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/FINGER/MVC-011S.JPG
>>><
>>>Here's a petrified human toe (with toe nail), found only
>>>10-15 feet from the petrified finger.
>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Au29/MVC-017S.JPG
>>><
>>>Here's the specimen that Krogman identified as a tibia.
>>>It contains Haversian canals, proof of bone, and dried
>>>blood was found on it >>during American Medical Laboratory
>>>testing. This is the specimen >>that was fraudulently
>>>tested by Andrew MacRae (who produced microscopic photos
>>>of the cell structure of a rock on the false pretense
>>>that he was showing the cell structure of this specimen).
>>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/newtibia.jpg
><
>>>Here are two photos of the internal surface of bone
>>>and the petrified tibia under 2,000X magnification.
>>The first shows what the internal surface of cadaver
>>>bone looks like, the second offers a view of the internal
>>>surace of the specimen that Krogman had identified as
>>>a portion of a petrified tibia.
>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/oldascoal/more.htm
>>><
>>>This is the boulder containing the complete human skull.
>>>Testing has confirmed the presence of Haversian canals
>>>and American Medical Laboratories discovered it contains
>>>dried blood.
>>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/skullb.jpg
>>><
>>>Here's a petrified human mandible (frontal).
>>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-002S.JPG
>>><
>>>Here's a portion of a human mandible (side).
>>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-006S.JPG
>>><
>>>Here's a giant petrified tooth.
>>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/1tooth.jpg
>>><
>>>Here's a petrified dinosaur foot still embedded in slate.
>>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/z3dino.jpg
>>><
>>>Here's a petrified fetus of some large animal.
>>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-013F.JPG
>>><
>>>Here's another petrified fetus, still embedded in slate.
>>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Day/MVC-005S.JPG
>>><
>>>Here are several views of portion of a giant prehistoric
>>>scorpion identified as such by Krogman.
>>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-001S.JPG
>>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-010S.JPG
>>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-020S.JPG
>>><
>>>Here's a photo of the same portion of a petrified giant
>>>scorpion -- found 22 years ago -- alongside one found just
>>>weeks ago.
>>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/SCORPIONS/MVC-039S.JPG
>>><
>>>Here are two views of a piece of wood that appears to have
>>>been handcarved for use as a tool or a weapon.
>>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-003S.JPG
>>>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-005S.JPG
>><
>=================================================
>
Ed Conrad
> http://www.edconrad.com
>
Man as Old as Coal
(But super-pseudos, like Philip Deitiker, continue to deny it.)
<
>SNIP
>
>Try not to feed the trolls. Conrad is trying to bait an
>argument, he should note that as an observer of his
>activities w/MacRae and Myers back in the mid 90's, bout
>the only argument he is fit to make is the one whether he
>should be on stronger medications or be constrained in a
>funny farm. I suggest the latter, preferably one without
>internet connectivity. Keep in mind it is unethical to try
>to have a intellectual argument with a mentally challenged
>person for about the same reason it is unethical to have sex
>with that same person.
>
>:> =======================================
>
Pseudo Phil, let me say THIS about THAT...
>
Ed Conrad's posting of Jan. 3, 2003
Subject: The Macrae Myers Conspiracy Against Truth
Newsgroups: talk.origins, alt.alien.visitors, sci.geo.geology,
sci.anthropology.paleo
<
<
Paul Myers, you're already a big black eye to Temple University,
so I figured I'd touch base and see if your conspiratorial stench
has followed you to the faculty at the University of Minnesota.
>
We -- not the pseudos but John Q. Public -- again would like to know
your precise role in the preparation of the fraudulent ground
section of EC96-001 -- the one world famous bone expert Wilton
Krogman had identified as a portion of a petrified tibia and the one
from which Andrew Macrae, then at Calgary U.. was entrusted to prepare
a ground section and post microscopic photos of the cell structure on
his web page in late summer 1996.
>
This one, Paul Myers (lest we forget):
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossil/newtibia.jpg
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossil/ztibia2.jpg
>
Did YOU, Paul Myers, advise Andrew Macrae how to make a rock
or concretion (minus Haversian canals) bear a similiarity in physical
appearance to the real thing?
<
Did YOU, Paul Myers, actually prepare the fraudulent ground section
and hand-deliver it to Andrew Macrae at the University of Calgary, a
plane trip of more than 2,000 miles?
>
Did YOU, Paul Myers, advise Andrew Macrae to post those microscopic
photos of the fraudulent ground section, then advise him to send the
fraudulent slide back to me to complete the second part of your
pseudoscientific shenanigan?
<
Did YOU, Paul Myers, come up with the idea of politely contacting
me just days after the hoax was perpetrated, inviting me to your
laboratory at Temple Univesity to view that fraudulent ground section
under your state-of-the-art microscopes.
>
Didn't YOU, Paul Myers, tell me that the microscopic photos of the
ground section posted on Andrew MacRae's web page -- which I then
didn't realize was fraudulent -- were conclusive proff that EC96-001
specimen WASN'T petrified bone.
>
Then didn't YOU, Paul Myers, suggest an examination of the same ground
section under your state-of-the-art microscopes, so no Haversian
canals would be visible and therefore remove all questions about
Andrew Macrae's "intregrity"?
<
Isn't it true, Paul Myers, that YOU knew the ground section was not
prepared from EC96-001 -- the portion of the petrified tibia found
between anthracite veins -- when you invited me down to Philadelphia?.
<
You knew, didn't YOU, Paul Myers, that no Haversian canals would ever
be seen in EC96-001 because YOU, Paul Myers, knew the ground section
was prepared from a rock or a concretion? YOU knew, didn't you, Paul
Myers, what we were examining under your microscopes at Temple was
NOT a ground section of EC96-001.
>
By the way, Paul Myers, just whom did you speak to at Calgary
University during the many phone calls you later admitted having made
there during the peculiarly long period of time that Andrew Macrae had
EC96-001 in his possession.
<
And whom did you meet with at Calgary University when you FLEW there
on "other" business?
<
This is a portion of your posting of Aug. 1, 2002 :
<
"However, at that time I was collaborating with several people at
Calgary who had developed some calcium imaging software -- they were
helping me with some ratiometeric imaging problems. I even visited
Calgary one weekend, Unfortunately, it was a very busy working weekend
so that I didn't even have an opportunity to say hello to Andrew. It
had nothing to do with your wacky rocks."
>
I'd say you put your foot in your mouth, Paul Myers.
<
Pray tell, Paul Myers, WHY did you have to fly 2,000 miles for help
with your ratiometeric imaging problems when you could've solved
all problems by jumping in your car and driving less than 90 miles to
many universities less than an hour-and-a-half away? What made
Calgary University so very, very special?
<
Meanwhile, I wonder just how busy it must've been at Calgary
University on a summer weekend, Paul Myers. I doubt if there are a
handful of professors or instructors on campus at the majority of
colleges and universities anywhere in North America on ANY summer
weekend, let alone during a weekend at any other time of the year.
>
But I'm certain there was at least one person on campus that summer
weekend when you paid your visit, namely Andrew Macrae, and I'm sure
that you and he had spent many conniving hours how best to
try and dupe Ed Conrad and continue to perpetrate a campaign of
deceit, deception, collusion and conspiracy against mankind.
>
Ed Conrad
> http://www.edconrad.com
<
Man as Old as Coal
>
>> ==========================================
><
> MONUMENTAL CONSPIRACY AGAINST TRUTH
>
>> ==========================================
><
> Petrified Bones, Teeth and Even Soft Organs
> (Some Human) Discoverd in Carboniferous Strata
>>
> =====================================
<
THE QUICKIE VERSION:
<
Two examples of petrified human remains,...
A human finger and toe:
>
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Au29/MVC-016S.JPG
<
> =====================================
<
THE LONGER VERSION:
> =================================================
>
> http://edconrad.com/canals/hooton.gif
<
> http://www.edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/quotesnew.gif
>
< snip >
And you even got Philip riled again, eh, Ed?
Say, Ed, did you ever hear back from the GAO?