Phoenix sighting on CNN
Matt Giwer
On Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:49:52 -0400, bob <tar...@erols.com> wrote:
>The remark of the object being totally silent matches a theory put forth in 1953 by a
>French pilot Lieutnant Plantier who had envisioned a craft that could defeat the effects
>of air friction through the use of electromagnetic fields, not knowing that what he had
>described was similar to UFO sightings. Such a field would cause a gaseous appearance
>such as was noted on the night of March 13th over Phoenix AZ when the objects passed
>over the city there. The photographs of a large boomerang that passed over the home of
>a man living in the AZ desert were analyzed by video analyst Jim Delittoso who claims
>that the object is one mile in length. The theory seems to fit.
He might as well have suggested using butter as this is not a
known effect of electromagnetic fields.
===
If China behaved like Israel, Congress would demand a declaration of war.
bob
Well according to Stanton Friedman, as well as Paul Hill, such a field could be used to
defeat the effects of air friction. Hill points out that the typically seen orange
color of UFOs is consistent with the spectral anaylsis of ionized air at lower energies
which is often seen of saucers in a hovering postion. Hill claims that such fields would
prevent sonic booms and as Friedman adds, "that's the stuff that glows". One would
imagin that ionized air would at a distance create the watery appearance reported by
many witnesses of the Arizona sighting.
-bob tarantino
Peter Ceresole
In article <33d61e93....@news.brigadoon.com>,
_d...@wolfenet.com (Daryl dmc) wrote:
>Here's a good example. We've all splashed someone by swinging our arm
>along the top of some water, right? Well that's what a sonic boom is.
>A wing plows through the air and the air piles up in front of the
>wing. When too much piles up it starts sending shock waves, aka
>splash.
No. That's not how it works. If the airplane is going though the air, the
molecules have to get out of the way, no matter how they do it. At subsonic
speeds the air can compress relatively gently, pass the energy of the
displacement to the next molecule and so forth, bouncing back so that there
is relatively little energy loss. That's also what happens in a sound wave;
the energy is passed on at the speed of sound.
At supersonic speeds the compression takes place too quickly for that
smooth transition. The air is compressed violently and the energy is
transferred into a shock wave, the definition of which is that, even in a
perfect fluid, energy is expended in it. Bang. It doesn't depend on what
happens at the surface. Just on how quickly the air has to be displaced.
--
Peter
Peter Ceresole
In article <33D4D9...@erols.com>,
bob <tar...@erols.com> wrote:
>Hill claims that such
>fields would
>prevent sonic booms and as Friedman adds, "that's the stuff that glows".
Apart from anything else, that's just nonsense. If you shove something
though the air at supersonic speeds the air has to get out of the way
somehow; the result is a shock wave and a sonic boom.
If that's the level of their physics then there's not much reason to
believe anything else they might say.
--
Peter
The_Sage
>pe...@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:
>> There is a large difference between "relatively quiet" and "totally
>>silent". In one interview I saw, the witness stated that it was so low
>>overhead that they could throw a baseball at it and hit it. They also
>>stated that they could see solid structure. They also stated that there was
>>some form of interior lighting that resembled gas discharge lamps. They
>>also stated it was "totally silent" and that it was so quiet they could hear
>>crickets but they couldn't hear ANYTHING from the craft.
>Trying to estimate distance of an undetermined object at night is
>notoriously difficult; beyond a few metres at most, there is no depth
>information *at all* which is not dependent on knowledge about the size of
>the observed object, or its velocity. The watchers didn't know either of
>these, so they can't have had any idea how high the lights were. And a
>properly quiet aircraft at 400 feet can't be heard above normal field
>noises; that was established by surveillance flights in Vietnam. A quiet
>aircraft at a couple of thousand feet towing an array several hundred
>metres long would appear *exactly* the same as a totally silent, smaller
>craft a very low level.
>
>As for the "structure", that sounds extremely unreliable; humans beings are
>extremely adept at filling in structure where there is none. Visual
>perception tests induce people to do this all the time.
You are quite right Peter and as further evidence that you are correct,
CNN announced today that the "UFOs" were just merely airial flares
dropped by some A10s during a training mission out of Maryland.
The_Sage
Doubter
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On 22 Jul 1997, Matt Giwer wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:49:52 -0400, bob <tar...@erols.com> wrote:
>
> >The remark of the object being totally silent matches a theory put forth in 1953 by a
> >French pilot Lieutnant Plantier who had envisioned a craft that could defeat the effects
> >of air friction through the use of electromagnetic fields, not knowing that what he had
> >described was similar to UFO sightings. Such a field would cause a gaseous appearance
> >such as was noted on the night of March 13th over Phoenix AZ when the objects passed
> >over the city there. The photographs of a large boomerang that passed over the home of
> >a man living in the AZ desert were analyzed by video analyst Jim Delittoso who claims
> >that the object is one mile in length. The theory seems to fit.
>
> He might as well have suggested using butter as this is not a
> known effect of electromagnetic fields.
>
The gaseous appearence may not be a known effect,but now,thanks to the
Nijimin(sp?) magnetics laboratory,we _do_ have true magnetic levitation.
It establishes a STRONG magnetic field that uses the very weak magnetic
charge within the molecular structure of the object to levitate
it(eliminating the effects of inertia within the field(this DOES NOT allow
the mythic inertialess drive)).Cool,eh?I have a feeling that,terestrial or
not,This is what was seen over AZ. :v)
bob
> > On Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:49:52 -0400, bob <tar...@erols.com> wrote:
> >
The remark of the object being totally silent matches a theory put forth in 1953 by a
French pilot Lieutnant Plantier who had envisioned a craft that could defeat the effects
of air friction through the use of electromagnetic fields, not knowing that what he had
described was similar to UFO sightings. Such a field would cause a gaseous appearance
such as was noted on the night of March 13th over Phoenix AZ when the objects passed
over the city there. The photographs of a large boomerang that passed over the home of
a man living in the AZ desert were analyzed by video analyst Jim Delittoso who claims
that the object is one mile in length. The theory seems to fit.
> On 22 Jul 1997, Matt Giwer wrote:
> >
> > He might as well have suggested using butter as this is not a
> > known effect of electromagnetic fields.
> >
Doubter wrote:
> The gaseous appearence may not be a known effect,but now,thanks to the
> Nijimin(sp?) magnetics laboratory,we _do_ have true magnetic levitation.
> It establishes a STRONG magnetic field that uses the very weak magnetic
> charge within the molecular structure of the object to levitate
> it(eliminating the effects of inertia within the field(this DOES NOT allow
> the mythic inertialess drive)).Cool,eh?I have a feeling that,terestrial or
> not,This is what was seen over AZ. :v)
>>>>>
Thanks for the reply. The video of the object shown on FOX Monday night clearly shows
that an object surrounded by lights flew over Phoenix. The lights around the object
glared through the air outward from the center showing the outline of the craft. The
object moved slowly, was reported to be silent and according to Jim Delittoso was at
least one mile in length. US goverment issue? I sincerely and definitly do doubt it.
These triangular objects are often seen to make extreme changes in acceleration and
position. During a flap of these objects in Belgium in 1990, two F-16s chased and
unidentified object for 65 minutes that was calculated to make a 22 G turn. If it were
a stealth, any human inside would have been pancaked. Eyewitnesses who encounter UFOs
at close range including one person I talked to, often claim that they feel an
electromagnetic 'buzzing' around their body. Gravity and inertia control are certainly
feasible and I believe have been witnessed in thousands of encounters with UFOs.
-bob tarantino
Louise J. Wilkinson
On Sat, 9 Aug 1997, Al Capone wrote:
> I have a video of my daughter for sale. Just turned 18. She looks
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>
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>
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>
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>
>
Although its great that your daughter is trying to raise money for
school, this is still pretty fucking sick!
Brian Mueller
Louise J. Wilkinson wrote:
> Although its great that your daughter is trying to raise money for
>school, this is still pretty fucking sick!
>
$50 says that Louise just sent the ten dollars. ;-)
Just kidding! :-)
btw how is it sick? She's raising money...her dad din't say he checks
out her young body or anything... :)
The Hermit
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Chris Millett <mill...@millettc.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
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> In article <33f47a09...@news.netconnect.com.au>, The Hermit
> <wal...@giant.bnc.com.au> writes
> >Hey! You can buy a video of me, only 5 bucks!
>
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