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Pietro Sommavilla

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Jan 15, 2004, 4:26:06 PM1/15/04
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Feb. 11 1949 Project Grudge Censorship

*****************************************************************************
The order was to put all the Scientist or witness of extraterrestrial
presence in categories such: mad, Paranoiac, Ignorant, Drunk, Dreamer,
Psicopatic.
******************************************************************************

I wrote about the possible evidences in News groups like:
alt.aliens.visitors, sci.astro, alt.aliens.research.

*I am* a *witness* of extraterrestrial and paranormal activities in
this planet..of course there are a lot of people that can write: I
know about E,T. or I know about paranormal..but I guess not everybody
say the truth.
They can used for disinformations, make some bucks or simple try to
have some fun.

Now about the Zetas: I belive that these aliens exist,
because..entities can be "channeled"

Channeled entities, can be bad or good..'cause "entities" aren't God.

The real issue for me wasn't Planet x but (I wrote already this
several time before) the evidences of extraterrestrials in this
universe.

Now since,I wrote these issues in the right ngs, I don't understand
why these people (like DrPostman or Anglesea) wrote about others
mother's a*** probes, ko0ks awards, and other off topic B.S. they
shold post in alt.kook,or alt. sex..in short they abuse people in the
net and is very strange that nobody stops them.
(ring a bell ?) anyway DrPostman like other are realy ignorant people,
I did read a lot of theis nosense posts, they realy sucks,
'cause they left the proofs of their stupidity in these google grups
just one ex. see DrPostman in the Iraq's medieval culture.

Now,you puppets with your sockpuppets can go back to your jobs.
I realize that I wasted my time with some kind of parassites (shame on
me !)

judoka_61

Misty

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DrPostman

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Jan 16, 2004, 3:07:27 AM1/16/04
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On 15 Jan 2004 13:26:06 -0800, judok...@yahoo.com (Pietro
Sommavilla) wrote:


That's funny, coming from an idiot who used my nick in a classic
meltdown.

Keep it up kook.

--
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Member,Board of Directors of afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® member #15-51506-253.
You can email me at: TuriFake(at)hotmail.com

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- Andre 3000 of Outkast

OhBrother

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"Pietro Sommavilla" <judok...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:38aa83a2.04011...@posting.google.com...

> Feb. 11 1949 Project Grudge Censorship
>
[snip]

>
> Now since,I wrote these issues in the right ngs, I don't understand
> why these people (like DrPostman or Anglesea) wrote about others
> mother's a*** probes, ko0ks awards, and other off topic B.S. they
> shold post in alt.kook,or alt. sex..in short they abuse people in the
> net and is very strange that nobody stops them.

Why hasn't anyone stopped you? Could it be because Usenet is freespace?

> (ring a bell ?) anyway DrPostman like other are realy ignorant people,

Pietro,

If you're posting to "all the right groups" then are you posting to
sci.astro? It's a sci group. You've no doubt read the FAQ on posting to it
but you choose ignore it, believing that somehow, since your alien drivel is
important to you, then it should be important to everyone. I think *that*
is really ignorant.

And then we have all of your past history, Zetard postings and off-the-wall
attitudes which also color the way people interpret your posts. Maybe you
believe you've experienced something special that sets you apart, but
because *you* believe it, doesn't make it mandatory for others to believe
it. So why are you surprised and hurt that no one buy's into your fantasy?
Come back to earth and do an assessment of what you're posting and I'm sure
you'll see why you're getting the responses you are.

Then again, if you are a TROLL, you're loving the responses your getting.

O'

DrPostman

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Jan 16, 2004, 9:50:19 AM1/16/04
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:10:08 GMT, abba <om...@nospam.com> wrote:

>We are starting a club for people who believe in kooks. Would you like to be
>the first member?
>
>I nominate you for the first member of the True Believer Club, any seconds?


Only kooks are "True Believers". And you have the syndrome in a bad
way. You also seem to follow the Woo Woo Credo to a "t".

Pietro Sommavilla

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Jan 16, 2004, 3:03:09 PM1/16/04
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I got no honor ? ..right ! Hello ? you can see my yahoo profile on the net ?

http://ufocasebook.com/Manhattan.html

What about James McDonald ? this guy wasn't a kook..'cause he was a
scientist, he wasn't a mental case.. but instead he shoot to himself
for not reason..wait no, maybe there was a reason..did he read a book
in 1966(blue book)and he got sick about it ? you bet !

http://www.ufos.it/ufos.htm

What about Lazar Robert S. in 1997 he talked about the Dulce
Experiment and the little E.B.E. that got you big time...
you know what I'm talking about it so don't fuck around.. see as example..
Cortile-Napolitano Linda, she was taken from her house at;
03:00 A.M. oct. 30 1989 sadly she was in a manhattan'skyscraper
in the 12° floor ..witness ? *yes* ask the two bodyguards that got
stuck in the Brooklin bridge while they was taking their important
political-man (Javier Perez de Cuellar)somewhere.

**************************************************************
http://www.geocities.com/judoka_61/Dulce_experiments.html
**************************************************************

One of the two bodyguards is going insane 'cause you (debunker-discredit)

He *SAW* something..he went pubblic and now He must find himself in trouble..

was he drunk ? ..is he just a nut ? or a I've a better one.. is he a Ko0k !?

..and now if there aren't further questions..I think my biscuit are burning..

have a nice day..!

judoka_61

OhBrother

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Jan 16, 2004, 9:18:07 PM1/16/04
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"Pietro Sommavilla" <judok...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:38aa83a2.04011...@posting.google.com...
> I got no honor ? ..right ! Hello ? you can see my yahoo profile on the net
?
>
Pietro,

Don't need to see your profile, just need to read one of your many silly
posts. I'm sure you can produce lots of web pages and 'other email
identities' that will speak very highly of you. Problem is that it's all
one person - you!

[snip]>


> What about James McDonald ? this guy wasn't a kook..'cause he was a

[snip googled cut and paste]


> What about Lazar Robert S. in 1997 he talked about the Dulce

[snip googled cut and paste]


> He *SAW* something..he went pubblic and now He must find himself in
trouble..
>

[snip]


>
> have a nice day..!
>
> judoka_61

Here is an alternative scenario. A bunch of people tell tall tales, get a
lot of attention, and then tell more stories to make the first more
believeable, and on it goes. (Much the same as your lust for attention
which is obviously why you're whoring yourself out with the same crap
(that's the honor connection... get it?) ).

You keep posting the same worn out crap, you never answer in a responsible
way, just more of your "eeehhhe??!!" Jibberish (Oh yes, I know you speak
"jibberish", you've posted that answer half a hundred freaking times too)

If there is such a thing as "news group pollution", you're it.

The problem is Pietro, if you were to engage in a serious discussion about
your favorite topic (preferably on the newsgroups suited for the purpose) -
even the simplest of skeptics would blow you out of the water. The reason
is that you have N O T H I N G to back yourself up. Instead you build a new
webpage or do a google search and cut and paste even more irrelevant stuff.

Here's a challenge to you. Prove us all wrong.

Try taking just one UFO factoid, and argue it from start to finish. Post
your belief and answer responsibly any rebuttals, post relevant facts to the
point you're making. If you've misstated something or if you misunderstood
it, you simply say you were wrong. If you can do that, start to finish,
then you're worth listening to. If it turns out that there is no evidence
other than heresay and rumor, then say so.

My prediction is that you'll just go careening off into space (like darth
vader) swearing and yelling "Punk!" at the top of your lungs.

Bona Fortuna!

O'


cranial drip

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Jan 17, 2004, 2:23:25 AM1/17/04
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Human beings are no more intellectually capable today than we were 20,000 years
ago.

It took us more than 20,000 years to realize that earth is not the center of the
universe.

There is a reason why it took us so long to become aware of what is real and what
is perceived.

The fact that humans are self aware is both a blessing and curse.

Most people project onto the world their perception of it.

"I think it, therefore it is"

Fact is, just because you think something does not make it real.

Because we project how we interpret our world onto to the world we live in, we
distort or understanding of it.

If every single human being believed the world was flat it would not make it so.

If millions believe in god or aliens it has no bearing on whether they exist or do
not exist.

If I wanted to argue that all of creation was my invention I could do so using
the same methods that all other "believers" use. (believers of aliens or god or
both).

This is the same method that kept humans in the dark for more than 20,000 years.

It is the same reason ALL of you "believers" are in the dark!

Thank god you will never be asked to do heart surgery me any time soon!

I'll catch you later, I have to go back to rubbing sticks for fire in the back of
my cave!

(Short paragraphs used to get through to the mentally impaired)

cranial drip

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Jan 17, 2004, 2:32:26 AM1/17/04
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Human beings are no more intellectually capable today than we were 20,000 years ago.

It took us more than 20,000 years to realize that earth is not the center of the universe.

There is a reason why it took us so long to become aware of what is real and what is perceived.

The fact that humans are self aware is both a blessing and curse.

Most people project onto the world their perception of it.

"I think it, therefore it is"

Fact is, just because you think something does not make it real.

Because we project how we interpret our world onto to the world we live in,  we distort our understanding of it.

If every single human being believed the world was flat it would not make it so.

If millions believe in god or aliens it has no bearing on whether they exist or do
not exist.

If I wanted to argue that  all of creation was my invention I could do so using the same methods that all other "believers" use. (believers of aliens or god or both).

This is the same method that kept humans in the dark for more than 20,000 years.

It is the same reason ALL of you "believers" are in the dark!

Thank god you will never be asked to do heart surgery on me any time soon!


I'll catch you later, I have to go back to rubbing sticks for fire in the back of my cave!

 PS.  Short paragraphs used to get through to the mentally impaired

 

cranial drip

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Misty

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abba wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:07:27 GMT, DrPostman <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote:
>
>

Misty

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Misty

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Misty

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sparkling pebbles wrote:

> Do you have any proof of kooks? Are you a kook? And you believe in kooks,
> so you're a True Believer.


>
>
>>And you have the syndrome in a bad way.
>
>

> I do not believe in kooks.


>
>
>>You also seem to follow the Woo Woo Credo to a "t".
>
>

> Are you also a woo-woo believer?
>
> It must be fun for you to believe in all these things.
>
> Your world is small, hua?
>

Misty

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Jan 17, 2004, 3:00:43 AM1/17/04
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DrPostman

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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:42:35 GMT, sparkling pebbles <m...@nospam.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:50:19 GMT, DrPostman <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote:

>>Only kooks are "True Believers".
>

>Do you have any proof of kooks? Are you a kook? And you believe in kooks,
>so you're a True Believer.
>

>>And you have the syndrome in a bad way.
>

>I do not believe in kooks.
>

>>You also seem to follow the Woo Woo Credo to a "t".
>

>Are you also a woo-woo believer?
>
>It must be fun for you to believe in all these things.
>
>Your world is small, hua?


I told you not to be stupid, you moron.

DrPostman

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Jan 17, 2004, 4:53:04 AM1/17/04
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 02:44:30 GMT, sparkling pebbles <n...@nospam.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 02:18:07 GMT, "OhBrother" <Nob...@noplace.com> wrote:
>
>>Try taking just one UFO factoid, and argue it from start to finish. Post
>>your belief and answer responsibly any rebuttals, post relevant facts to the
>>point you're making. If you've misstated something or if you misunderstood
>>it, you simply say you were wrong. If you can do that, start to finish,
>>then you're worth listening to. If it turns out that there is no evidence
>>other than heresay and rumor, then say so.
>

>Hello Mr. OhBother, Do you realize how much time it takes to do all of that?
>Why must one argue about UFOs on these newsgroups? People who already
>accept UFOs do not need to argue about it. They already found their
>evidence and do not need to prove it to anyone else. So your arguments
>above are very false. Maybe you should argue about UFOs if you think that
>is the right thing to do or go surf the web for UFO information. I think
>maybe you are objecting to the words 'strength and honor' in the header. It
>is obvious even to the casual observer who has no common sense at all that
>this newsgroups is a set up and that the skeptical people on these
>newsgroups are paid to argue against UFOs and that they too are UFO
>believers. There are too many special interest groups posting in the aliens
>newsgroups not to quickly figure out that this topic is on fire.
>


NOT on sci.astro, you stupid asshole.

DrPostman

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Jan 17, 2004, 4:53:56 AM1/17/04
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 01:47:23 -0600, Misty
<""yardholler\"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote:

Nothing.

Three times, and no text to these responses.

--

OhBrother

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Jan 17, 2004, 5:35:55 AM1/17/04
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"sparkling pebbles" <n...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:8t7h00togs8j4766e...@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 02:18:07 GMT, "OhBrother" <Nob...@noplace.com> wrote:
>
> >Try taking just one UFO factoid, and argue it from start to finish. Post
> >your belief and answer responsibly any rebuttals, post relevant facts to
the
> >point you're making. If you've misstated something or if you
misunderstood
> >it, you simply say you were wrong. If you can do that, start to finish,
> >then you're worth listening to. If it turns out that there is no
evidence
> >other than heresay and rumor, then say so.
>
> Hello Mr. OhBother, Do you realize how much time it takes to do all of
that?
> Why must one argue about UFOs on these newsgroups? People who already
> accept UFOs do not need to argue about it. They already found their
> evidence and do not need to prove it to anyone else. So your arguments
> above are very false. Maybe you should argue about UFOs if you think that
> is the right thing to do or go surf the web for UFO information. I think
> maybe you are objecting to the words 'strength and honor' in the header.
It
> is obvious even to the casual observer who has no common sense at all that
> this newsgroups is a set up and that the skeptical people on these
> newsgroups are paid to argue against UFOs and that they too are UFO
> believers. There are too many special interest groups posting in the
aliens
> newsgroups not to quickly figure out that this topic is on fire.
>

What a load of crap! Totally circular logic. Why argue, the conspiracy
exists because there are arguments, ergo - it must all be true. I think
it's called self-delusion.

I don't think you're Pietro, but you may be cut from the same cloth.

Why does Pietro bother cutting and pasting the same worn-out drivel then?
Where does it all go? If he has so much compelling evidence and motivating
arguments for their existance then he should trot it out, otherwise
recognize that each time he put's his 'stuff' out there, he's going to get a
rebuttal (and I'd be amazed that even one penny is being spent funding
"newsgroup debunkers" no matter what convoluted logic you use to try and
prove that is going on.

O'

>


Pete Charest

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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 23:32:26 -0800, cranial drip
<ibef...@hotmail.com> wrote:


>If I wanted to argue that all of creation was my invention I could do
>so using the same methods that all other "believers" use. (believers of
>aliens or god or both).
>
>This is the same method that kept humans in the dark for more than
>20,000 years.
>
>It is the same reason ALL of you "believers" are in the dark!
>
>Thank god you will never be asked to do heart surgery on me any time
>soon!

Thank....who?

---
Pete Charest
KookSpotter
Truth TerroristŠ
If you're not insulted, you're not a kook!

OhBrother

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"sparkling pebbles" <n...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:2uli009njs3eh0uuf...@4ax.com...
> My Dear Mr. O'Brother:
>
> Given that the existence for extraterrestrials has already been proven

Well that's news to me! You of course have lots of info to back that one up
>
> to
> governments world around more than 30 years ago and the subsequent silence
> and lack of leadership in the matter is indicative that the news they had
to
> deliver to the populace was not good news. If it was good news, this
> newsgroups would not exist in its current form of total government
> controlled discord.

Maybe the silence was because they had no "News" to deliver, or any "News"
they might deliver would be questionable and based on hearsay, rumor, KoOk
drool, etc. Responsibility carries a burden with it. I'll bet you believe
Pons and the other "Cold Fusion" guys were "great visionaries silenced by
the guvmint machine"?
>
> These are the facts of the matter:
>
What *facts*?

I thought your style looked familiar.

David Cantu,

Your little organization, (Disclosure project, right?) despite its many
self-serving "press releases" has yet to come forward with any tangible
evidence (aside from evidence that y'all wish desperately you could get your
hands on something). Given the time and effort apparently put forward by
your gang of UFO-Loving Tree-huggers, you've come up with no *evidence*.
Believe me, if you had, you wouldn't be wasting your time arguing with a
skeptic on Usenet.

[snip more self-serving ranting]

Sorry, your hidden agenda is pretty thinly veiled. Your next move will be
to post a couple hundred pages of trivial UFO "news" with a one-liner
rejoiner at the top or bottom asking a vague question like "What do you
think about that", or "was HE crazy?".

The world awaits.....

O'

So, how's things with the Civil Air Patro Mr. Kadet Cantu? <clicks heels
together>.

>
>


OhBrother

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Jan 17, 2004, 12:55:55 PM1/17/04
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"sparkling pebbles" <n...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:61ti00lk3g5uoaete...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 17:22:44 GMT, "OhBrother" <Nob...@noplace.com> wrote:
>
> [snip troll]
>
>
> >The world awaits.....

>
> Why must one argue about UFOs on these newsgroups? People who already
>
Exactly my point. So why post all this "irrelevant crap" aside from wanting
to get attention and see your name?

>
> These are the facts of the matter:

Nope, not the facts - just your beliefs David. You need to go a long way
further if you want to call them facts. Facts have observable and
repeatable manifestations and continuity.

>
> THE CURRENT MASS EXTINCTION:

<snippage of redundant self-serving Liberal KoOk rant>

>
> PS: It's Art, Jim! And a higher IQ than yours.
> And better language skills, and more knowledge
> than you'd ever hope to have in a life time!
>
Who the F*** is Jim? I have you pegged but there is very little likelihood
you'd know me. (BTW, comparing IQ is prime KoOk-sign - you're insecurity is
showing!).

> And it's about honor, integrity, strength, skill and morality, of which
you
> have zero.

Your opinion. You've gotten consistant and thorough responses from me, no
cut and paste from some web page, no allusions to 'greater knowledge'.

Lets see - somewhere along here you'll need to start screaming NAZI or post
something from Veliofsky.

O'

>


KittyKat

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sparkling pebbles wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 17:55:55 GMT, "OhBrother" <Nob...@noplace.com> wrote:
>
> {snip chen rant}
>
> Your Echelon leak to the newsgroups disclosing poster's identities:
>
> Message-ID: <8lsi005f75i8fpu8a...@4ax.com>
>
>
> Echelon:
>
> Message-ID: <ndui009879p2p1mam...@4ax.com>

huh? those aren't 'links'! what are you talking about?

KittyKat

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Jan 17, 2004, 7:56:34 PM1/17/04
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xxx wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 17:55:55 GMT, "OhBrother" <Nob...@noplace.com> wrote:
>
> {snip chen rant}
>
> Your Echelon leak to the newsgroups disclosing poster's identities:
>
> Message-ID: <8lsi005f75i8fpu8a...@4ax.com>
>
>
> Echelon:
>
> Message-ID: <ndui009879p2p1mam...@4ax.com>

ok....NObody,NOplace,NOname,NOone,NOspam,NOcrap,NOnothing,NOnada......where's
the point in this post??????????? Who cares about Echelon (or
whatever)Are we all supposed to be scared now or what????? As for
answering your posts I assumed that was the purpose of newsgroups. If
the few people who post here (other than the one with the zillion alter
egos)left there would be only YOU talking to yourself (as usual)

Misty

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sparkling pebbles wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 23:23:25 -0800, cranial drip <ibef...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> snip
>
> IQ Scores Continue to Rise
>
>
> http://www.glencoe.com/sec/socialstudies/curevents/cearchive/fall98/iqscr.html
>
> Psychology/Sociology
>
>
> IQ Scores Continue to Rise
> Scores on intelligence quotient (IQ) tests are rising in industrialized
> countries, suggesting that people there may be getting smarter. “Everyone is
> getting smarter in some way—and a lot smarter,” said Dr. Ulrich Neisser, a
> professor of psychology at Cornell University. “We’re living in a golden
> age.”
> Since 1938 IQ scores have increased by about 6 points a decade. In 1932 the
> median IQ in the United States was 100; in 1997 the median score was 120.
>
> Although overall IQ scores are rising, however, scores in some areas are
> falling. “Fluid intelligence,” or the ability to know how to do something,
> is increasing, according to researchers, while the level of “crystallized
> intelligence,” or information-based knowledge, is declining. Students in the
> 1930s, for example, would
> have been much more likely to know the answer to a questions such as
> “What is the boiling point of water?” than today’s students.
> Several factors could explain the increase in test scores, according to
> experts in the field. Better nutrition has almost certainly played a role.
> Decreases in family size, increased urbanization, and growing familiarity
> with test taking may also have increased IQ scores. The fact that children
> sometimes encounter the kinds of mazes and puzzles found in IQ exams before
> taking the tests has probably also increased scores.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Misty

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Misty

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Misty

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> Truth Terrorist©

DrPostman

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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 01:37:32 -0600, Misty
<""yardholler\"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote:

NOTHING.

You need to learn how to post. None of your text came
through.

DrPostman

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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 17:22:44 GMT, "OhBrother" <Nob...@noplace.com>
wrote:

>So, how's things with the Civil Air Patro Mr. Kadet Cantu? <clicks heels
>together>.


Ah, I remember this kook now. Long time since I've seen his nonsense.

DrPostman

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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 01:46:21 -0600, Misty
<""yardholler\"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote:

>
>
>Pete Charest wrote:


Well, you managed to print an attribution line. Now
take the next step and learn how to post text.

--

q...@sad.com

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Jan 18, 2004, 8:35:37 AM1/18/04
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 08:41:56 GMT, DrPostman <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 01:37:32 -0600, Misty
><""yardholler\"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote:
>
>NOTHING.
>
>You need to learn how to post. None of your text came
>through.

Some times is does and sometimes it doesn't.

Seems dweebs get real upset when it doesn't.

I don't care, do you?

q...@sad.com

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Michael Davis

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Alexa put on her "q...@sad.com" sock and babbled:

How exactly does one go about spying on an open and public forum?

--
The Evil Michael Davis(tm)
http://www.mdpub.com/scopeworks/
http://skepticult.org Member #264-70198-536
Member #33 1/3 of The "I Have Been Killfiled By Tommy" Club

"There's a sucker born every minute" - David Hannum (often
erroneously attributed to P. T. Barnum)

q...@sad.com

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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:04:39 GMT, Michael Davis <mdav...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>Alexa

code word alexa

Message-ID: <u13l001ll3u3cqn1b...@4ax.com>


q...@sad.com

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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:04:39 GMT, Michael Davis <mdav...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

You got a problem with Echelon pal?

Or you just have a problem with Alexa, eh?

And why is that?

The world wants to know what the fuck your problem is.

Afraid of aliens and UFOs? Afraid of Alexa?

Or are you just fucking insane "michael davis" sock puppet?

Or are you a religion zealot.

Come on now Mikey, let's hear your beef with UFOs, aliens, and Alexa.


What's your problem?


q...@sad.com

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Mark Shippey

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q...@sad.com <q...@sad.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:04:39 GMT, Michael Davis <mdav...@ix.netcom.com>
> wrote:

> Or you just have a problem with Alexa, eh?

> And why is that?

Hi Alexa! - How about redundant, paranoid, repetitive post floods?
Maybe he (and everyone else) has a problem with that. So, whatever
happened your old standby Martin Cannon (sp?) floods of his copyrighted
material about mind control? Remember that? You used to post those by the
hundreds with your Echeclon paranoia.

q...@sad.com

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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:23:29 -0000, Mark Shippey
<col...@anti-grey-militia.net> wrote:

>
>q...@sad.com <q...@sad.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:04:39 GMT, Michael Davis <mdav...@ix.netcom.com>
>> wrote:
>
>> Or you just have a problem with Alexa, eh?
>
>> And why is that?
>
> Hi Alexa! -

Alexa is a code word in these newsgroups for the extraterrestrial saucer at
Groom lake which is proof of extraterrestrial existence:

Message-ID: <u13l001ll3u3cqn1b...@4ax.com>

>How about redundant, paranoid, repetitive post floods?
>Maybe he (and everyone else) has a problem with that. So, whatever
>happened your old standby Martin Cannon (sp?) floods of his copyrighted
>material about mind control? Remember that? You used to post those by the
>hundreds with your Echeclon paranoia.

What's your beef, eh? The stupid Michael Davis sock puppet started this
thread, so ask him okay.

You have a problem with Echelon pal?

Mark Shippey

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q...@sad.com <q...@sad.com> wrote:

> Alexa is a code word in these newsgroups for the extraterrestrial saucer
> at Groom lake which is proof of extraterrestrial existence:

Nope, "Alexa" is the name of a dame who posts bizarre floods on
Usenet about Echelon, space aliens, and assorted other leftover
stale conspiracy stuff. Come on, you need some NEW material for
your Usenet slapstick routines.

q...@sad.com

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Well you're not posting anything of relevance in these news groups about
aliens or extraterrestrials.

So how about it sock puppet?

q...@sad.com

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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:39:01 -0000, Mark Shippey
<col...@anti-grey-militia.net> wrote:

>q...@sad.com <q...@sad.com> wrote:
>
>> Alexa is a code word in these newsgroups for the extraterrestrial saucer
>> at Groom lake which is proof of extraterrestrial existence:
>
> Nope,

Oh yes it is.

>"Alexa" is the name of a dame who posts bizarre floods on
>Usenet about Echelon, space aliens, and assorted other leftover
>stale conspiracy stuff. Come on, you need some NEW material for
>your Usenet slapstick routines.

Then I suggest you quit posting the code word alexa.

Mark Shippey

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Greys taste like chicken. And that's relevant.

q...@sad.com

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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:47:45 -0000, Mark Shippey <col...@GreyBurgersTM.net>
wrote:

Ask your 'michael davis' sock puppet who started this thread, idiot.

What's your beef, eh?

Al Quaeda got yer tongue?

Mark Shippey

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q...@sad.com <q...@sad.com> wrote:

> What's your beef, eh?

There is no "beef" and you know that .... GreyBurgers are pure
100% Grey. Greys taste like chicken, not beef. Why are you so
obsessed with beef? Go for a change, try something new, have
a GreyBurger. Over 10,000,000,000,000,000,000 sold throughout the
galaxy.


q...@sad.com

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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:04:39 GMT, Michael Davis <mdav...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>Alexa put on her "q...@sad.com" sock and babbled:
>

q...@sad.com

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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:23:29 -0000, Mark Shippey
<col...@anti-grey-militia.net> wrote:

Stalking is illegal

Peacenik

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"Pietro Sommavilla" <judok...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:38aa83a2.04011...@posting.google.com...
> Feb. 11 1949 Project Grudge Censorship
>
>
****************************************************************************
*
> The order was to put all the Scientist or witness of extraterrestrial
> presence in categories such: mad, Paranoiac, Ignorant, Drunk, Dreamer,
> Psicopatic.
>
****************************************************************************
**
>
> I wrote about the possible evidences in News groups like:
> alt.aliens.visitors, sci.astro, alt.aliens.research.
>
> *I am* a *witness* of extraterrestrial and paranormal activities in
> this planet..

Suuuuuuure you are.

<pats Pietro on head>

Wait while I make a phone call. And don't be afraid when the nice men in
white coats arrive - they only want to HELP you.

--
Peacenik


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Peacenik

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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:25:45 GMT, "Peacenik"
<crisk...@com999cast.removeallnines.net> wrote:

You seem to have a lot of sock puppets on these newsgroups.

Hugh

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Alexa,
We are only sick of you lmao
Can we say "Alexa needs her meds? "

Pietro Sommavilla

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"OhBrother" <Nob...@noplace.com> wrote in message news:<zX0Ob.14739$f97...@fe3.columbus.rr.com>...

> "Pietro Sommavilla" <judok...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:38aa83a2.04011...@posting.google.com...

>I got got no honor ? ..right!Hello ? you can see my yahoo profile on
the net>

..you know I can't resist..I'm a puppets-addicted..

> Don't need to see your profile, just need to read one of your many silly
> posts. I'm sure you can produce lots of web pages and 'other email
> identities' that will speak very highly of you. Problem is that it's all
> one person - you!

...silly ? I just answer to you puppets so.. I gave to you the same
"medicine" you give to the all the people that write abot ufos and
paranormal in the "right" ngs.
You are the ones that write nosense off topic in these ngs (example:
calling other's mothers names, harass people, kook nominations..kook
awards)most of you are paid to do so debunker-discredit, it is not a
segret anymore.
is clear.

> [snip]>
> > What about James McDonald ? this guy wasn't a kook..'cause he was a
> [snip googled cut and paste]
> > What about Lazar Robert S. in 1997 he talked about the Dulce
> [snip googled cut and paste]
> > He *SAW* something..he went pubblic and now He must find himself in
> trouble..
> >
> [snip]
> >
> > have a nice day..!
> >
> > judoka_61
>
> Here is an alternative scenario. A bunch of people tell tall tales, get a
> lot of attention, and then tell more stories to make the first more
> believeable, and on it goes. (Much the same as your lust for attention
> which is obviously why you're whoring yourself out with the same crap
> (that's the honor connection... get it?) ).

yes, I get it.. but I have to say (again) there are people used for
disinformations, people that just try to sells books or movies and
people that say the truth, meanwhile I'm a witness of paranormal
events, I know what I'm talking about..I know con-men, but I also know
that there are real paranormals events, I've study Tibetans,Ancient
Indus books..and I'm 100/100 sure that E.T.s are real, and "you" as
"someone" puppets try to deny it.


> You keep posting the same worn out crap, you never answer in a responsible
> way, just more of your "eeehhhe??!!" Jibberish (Oh yes, I know you speak
> "jibberish", you've posted that answer half a hundred freaking times too)

responsible way ? I have questions for you, I've the answer too but if
I don't have 1000 witness and ateam of scientists I can prove to you..
puppet you know.

jibberish ? well I'm improving your language.

> If there is such a thing as "news group pollution", you're it.

pollutions ? for what ? nobody force you to read my posts, but since
you are afraid by an "paranoic-idiot" I can't help you.

> The problem is Pietro, if you were to engage in a serious discussion about
> your favorite topic (preferably on the newsgroups suited for the purpose) -
> even the simplest of skeptics would blow you out of the water. The reason
> is that you have N O T H I N G to back yourself up. Instead you build a new
> webpage or do a google search and cut and paste even more irrelevant stuff.

http://www.geocities.com/judoka_61/Dulce_experiments.html

in these photos you can see a zetas'job.
it seems that they are getting close to create a new race.
they did a lot of abductions and most of the people have afraid to
talk..of course 'cause you..need to say more..puppet ?

>Here's a challenge to you. Prove us all wrong.

prove you wrong ? I did it several times.
I wrote in these ngs aboutets, ufos, and paranormal, while you
debunkers and sockpuppets wrote about O.T. B.S.

I start to tease you with a couple of cartoon and while I had fun some
of the "messages" went through".. you know what I'm talking about it.

> Try taking just one UFO factoid, and argue it from start to finish. Post
> your belief and answer responsibly any rebuttals, post relevant facts to the
> point you're making. If you've misstated something or if you misunderstood
> it, you simply say you were wrong. If you can do that, start to finish,
> then you're worth listening to. If it turns out that there is no evidence
> other than heresay and rumor, then say so.

see..above.
anyway I will do that, but right now I very busy.
*for the records I promise to do that.*
So stick around for the 18-19 of the february.

> My prediction is that you'll just go careening
off into space (like darth
> vader) swearing and yelling "Punk!" at the top of your lungs.
>
> Bona Fortuna!

see I've to teach you Italian, it's Buona Fortuna...

> O'

you missed the ball *punk* (as always)
What I've to say to you ?
Maybe you will manage to wash someone'brain so far..so keep up the
good job !

"see" you next month..!

judoka_61

Volker Hetzer

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"Pietro Sommavilla" <judo...@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:fd27f7c5.04012...@posting.google.com...

> "OhBrother" <Nob...@noplace.com> wrote in message news:<zX0Ob.14739$f97...@fe3.columbus.rr.com>...
> > "Pietro Sommavilla" <judok...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:38aa83a2.04011...@posting.google.com...
> http://www.geocities.com/judoka_61/Dulce_experiments.html
>
> in these photos you can see a zetas'job.
> it seems that they are getting close to create a new race.
> they did a lot of abductions and most of the people have afraid to
> talk..of course 'cause you..need to say more..puppet ?
That eye of the bottom picture looks pretty pasted on afterwards.

Greetings!
Volker

Pietro Sommavilla

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"OhBrother" <Nob...@noplace.com> wrote in message news:<B3PNb.10660$f97....@fe3.columbus.rr.com>...

> "Pietro Sommavilla" <judok...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:38aa83a2.04011...@posting.google.com...
> > Feb. 11 1949 Project Grudge Censorship
> >
> [snip]
> >
> > Now since,I wrote these issues in the right ngs, I don't understand
> > why these people (like DrPostman or Anglesea) wrote about others
> > mother's a*** probes, ko0ks awards, and other off topic B.S. they
> > shold post in alt.kook,or alt. sex..in short they abuse people in the
> > net and is very strange that nobody stops them.
>
> Why hasn't anyone stopped you? Could it be because Usenet is freespace?
>
> > (ring a bell ?) anyway DrPostman like other are realy ignorant people,
>
> Pietro,
>
> If you're posting to "all the right groups" then are you posting to
> sci.astro? It's a sci group. You've no doubt read the FAQ on posting to it
> but you choose ignore it, believing that somehow, since your alien drivel is
> important to you, then it should be important to everyone. I think *that*
> is really ignorant.

Then I guess that "you" are not the same O'puppet of the last year.
Last year I made a deal with "you" O',in short I agree to not post in
sci.astro anymore if you O' are able to do the same..nope; you start
to wrote about zetas and planet x, do you know how to use google
groups ? yes ? fine..then use it!
and search for O'brother.

> And then we have all of your past history, Zetard postings and off-the-wall
> attitudes which also color the way people interpret your posts. Maybe you
> believe you've experienced something special that sets you apart, but
> because *you* believe it, doesn't make it mandatory for others to believe
> it. So why are you surprised and hurt that no one buy's into your fantasy?
> Come back to earth and do an assessment of what you're posting and I'm sure
> you'll see why you're getting the responses you are.

http://www.geocities.com/judoka_61/Dulce_experiments.html

> Then again, if you are a TROLL, you're loving the responses your getting.
>
> O'

If you try to explain those photos, I will show you why *I* belive in
E.T.

judoka_61

Greg P.

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On 27 Jan 2004 06:44:14 -0800, judo...@hotmail.com (Pietro
Sommavilla) wrote:

>http://www.geocities.com/judoka_61/Dulce_experiments.html
>
>> Then again, if you are a TROLL, you're loving the responses your getting.
>>
>> O'
>
>If you try to explain those photos, I will show you why *I* belive in
>E.T.

Of course. Every picture you see online is real. Please try to explain
this one away.... http://www.funnyjunk.com/p/0363-jpg.html

Pietro Sommavilla

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judo...@hotmail.com (Pietro Sommavilla) wrote in message news:<fd27f7c5.04012...@posting.google.com>...

> "OhBrother" <Nob...@noplace.com> wrote in message news:<zX0Ob.14739$f97...@fe3.columbus.rr.com>...
> > "Pietro Sommavilla" <judok...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:38aa83a2.04011...@posting.google.com...
>
> >I got got no honor ? ..right!Hello ? you can see my yahoo profile on
> the net>

..you know I can't resist..I'm a puppets-addicted..

> > Don't need to see your profile, just need to read one of your many silly
> > posts. I'm sure you can produce lots of web pages and 'other email
> > identities' that will speak very highly of you. Problem is that it's all
> > one person - you!

...silly ? I just answer to you puppets so.. I gave to you the same
"medicine" you give to the all the people that write about ufos and

paranormal in the "right" ngs.
You are the ones that write nosense off topic in these ngs (example:
calling other's mothers names, harass people, kook nominations..kook
awards)most of you are paid to do so debunker-discredit, it is not a
segret anymore.
it is clear.

> > [snip]>

What about James McDonald ? this guy wasn't a kook..'cause he was a

> [snip googled cut and paste]

I just make sure that the messages go through..

What about Lazar Robert S. in 1997 he talked about the Dulce

>> > [snip googled cut and paste]

see above.

He *SAW* something..he went pubblic and now He must find himself in
trouble..

> [snip]


> > Here is an alternative scenario. A bunch of people tell tall tales, get a
> > lot of attention, and then tell more stories to make the first more
> > believeable, and on it goes. (Much the same as your lust for attention
> > which is obviously why you're whoring yourself out with the same crap
> > (that's the honor connection... get it?) ).

yes, I get it.. but I have to say (again) there are people used for
disinformations, people that just try to sells books or movies and
people that say the truth, meanwhile I'm a witness of paranormal
events, I know what I'm talking about..I know con-men, but I also
know
that there are real paranormals events, I've study Tibetans,Ancient
Indus books..and I'm 100/100 sure that E.T.s are real, and "you" as
"someone" puppets try to deny it.

lust of attention ? nope I just like to write of u.f.o. and e.t. in
alt.alien.visitors

> > You keep posting the same worn out crap, you never answer in a responsible
> > way, just more of your "eeehhhe??!!" Jibberish (Oh yes, I know you speak
> > "jibberish", you've posted that answer half a hundred freaking times too)

responsible way ? I have questions for you, I've the answer too but if

I don't have at least 1000 witness and ateam of scientist that back me
up,you will not belive at me. (you know that puppet)

jibberish ? well I will try to write a better English.

> > If there is such a thing as "news group pollution", you're it.

pollutions ? for what ? nobody force you to read my posts, but since
you are afraid by an "paranoic-idiot" I can't help you.

> > The problem is Pietro, if you were to engage in a serious discussion about
> > your favorite topic (preferably on the newsgroups suited for the purpose) -
> > even the simplest of skeptics would blow you out of the water. The reason
> > is that you have N O T H I N G to back yourself up. Instead you build a new
> > webpage or do a google search and cut and paste even more irrelevant stuff.

http://www.geocities.com/judoka_61/Dulce_experiments.html

about these photos ? I know something about that dude sat on the
ground.
you can see the same link is in others threads, but the other puppets
istead of "debunk" those photos..post "other" nosense links just to
make caos, and I bet that soon they will start to post about porno
movies and so far..isn't true ? is maybe a fragment of my
immaginations ? no you are no honest,you are there to hide the truth
about your little ebes and the others dudes that stick around in this
planet.
Why I do this ? what I have to gain ?
I do this 'cause I like it..I am an honest digger, I love the
truth..in spite of "everything" can happen to me.

it seems that they are getting close to create a new race.
they did a lot of abductions and most of the people have afraid to
talk..of course 'cause you..need to say more..puppet ?

> >Here's a challenge to you. Prove us all wrong.

prove you wrong ? I did it several times.
I wrote in these ngs aboutets, ufos, and paranormal, while you
debunkers and sockpuppets wrote about O.T. B.S.

I start to tease you with a couple of cartoon and while I had fun
some
of the "messages" went through".. you know what I'm talking about it.

> > Try taking just one UFO factoid, and argue it from start to finish. Post
> > your belief and answer responsibly any rebuttals, post relevant facts to the
> > point you're making. If you've misstated something or if you misunderstood
> > it, you simply say you were wrong. If you can do that, start to finish,
> > then you're worth listening to. If it turns out that there is no evidence
> > other than heresay and rumor, then say so.

see..above.

anyway I will do that, but right now I am very busy.

OhBrother

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"Pietro Sommavilla" <judo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fd27f7c5.0401...@posting.google.com...

> judo...@hotmail.com (Pietro Sommavilla) wrote in message
news:<fd27f7c5.04012...@posting.google.com>...
> > "OhBrother" <Nob...@noplace.com> wrote in message
news:<zX0Ob.14739$f97...@fe3.columbus.rr.com>...
> > > "Pietro Sommavilla" <judok...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:38aa83a2.04011...@posting.google.com...
> >
> > >I got got no honor ? ..right!Hello ? you can see my yahoo profile on
> > the net>
>
> ..you know I can't resist..I'm a puppets-addicted..
>
[snipped body of long outdated response - Pietro must be getting hard up to
have to go so far back in the archives to find something to respond to...]

> > >
> > > Bona Fortuna!
>
> see I've to teach you Italian, it's Buona Fortuna...

Thanks - I'll return the favor: it's "Mammoth" and not "Mammath" okay? Now
we're even...

>
> > > O'
>
> you missed the ball *punk* (as always)
> What I've to say to you ?
> Maybe you will manage to wash someone'brain so far..so keep up the
> good job !
>

As predicted, you closed it out with another *punk* epithet and ran off.

Is this the part where you reappear with another email name and congratulate
yourself for being "Right on!"?

As I said before, post one factoid and slug it out. Simply cutting and
pasting articles from web sites and then asking "They aren't crazy are
they?" puts you in the class of the Art WholeFlaffer's, just a cut and paste
machine.

You're entitled to your beliefs. When you try to convince others of it then
you'll get push back.

Also, don't pump up your ego by believing you are being pursued by "Paid
Government Disinformation Agents" - your 'cut and paste' of old FOAF stories
lifted from other websites is unlikely to raise any eyebrows.

> "see" you next month..!
>
> judoka_61

Nah, I'm too busy to fool with you much longer.

O'

Carl R. Osterwald

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In article <fd27f7c5.04012...@posting.google.com>, Pietro
Sommavilla <judo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "OhBrother" <Nob...@noplace.com> wrote in message
> news:<zX0Ob.14739$f97...@fe3.columbus.rr.com>...
> > "Pietro Sommavilla" <judok...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:38aa83a2.04011...@posting.google.com...
>
> >I got got no honor ? ..right!Hello ? you can see my yahoo profile on
> the net>
>
> ..you know I can't resist..I'm a puppets-addicted..
>
> > Don't need to see your profile, just need to read one of your many silly
> > posts. I'm sure you can produce lots of web pages and 'other email
> > identities' that will speak very highly of you. Problem is that it's all
> > one person - you!
>
> ...silly ? I just answer to you puppets so.. I gave to you the same
> "medicine" you give to the all the people that write abot ufos and
> paranormal in the "right" ngs.
> You are the ones that write nosense off topic in these ngs (example:
> calling other's mothers names, harass people, kook nominations..kook
> awards)most of you are paid to do so debunker-discredit, it is not a
> segret anymore.
> is clear.

Hey Pietro, did you see your recent accomplishment:

-----------------------------------------

<AHEM>

--KOOK of the MONTH--

The winner is -- PIETRO SOMMAVILLIA!!!!

Pietro Sommavillia 15 votes

Congratulations, Pietro!! KotM has a virus installed. A terminal one.

-----------------------------------------

That is quite an honor, you know.


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Pietro Sommavilla

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Jan 28, 2004, 2:49:15 PM1/28/04
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judo...@hotmail.com (Pietro Sommavilla) wrote in message news:<fd27f7c5.04012...@posting.google.com>...
> "OhBrother" <Nob...@noplace.com> wrote in message news:<B3PNb.10660$f97....@fe3.columbus.rr.com>...
> > "Pietro Sommavilla" <judok...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:38aa83a2.04011...@posting.google.com...
> > > Feb. 11 1949 Project Grudge Censorship
> > >
> [snip]

Now since,I wrote these issues in the right ngs, I don't understand
why these people (like DrPostman or Anglesea) wrote about others
mother's a*** probes, ko0ks awards, and other off topic B.S. they

should post in alt.kook,or alt. sex..in short they abuse people in the

Pietro Sommavilla

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Jan 28, 2004, 3:05:59 PM1/28/04
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judo...@hotmail.com (Pietro Sommavilla) wrote in message news:<fd27f7c5.04012...@posting.google.com>...
> "OhBrother" <Nob...@noplace.com> wrote in message news:<zX0Ob.14739$f97...@fe3.columbus.rr.com>...
> > "Pietro Sommavilla" <judok...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:38aa83a2.04011...@posting.google.com...
>
> >I got got no honor ? ..right!Hello ? you can see my yahoo profile on
> the net>

..you know I can't resist..I'm a puppets-addicted..

> > Don't need to see your profile, just need to read one of your many silly
> > posts. I'm sure you can produce lots of web pages and 'other email
> > identities' that will speak very highly of you. Problem is that it's all
> > one person - you!

...silly ? I just answer to you puppets so.. I gave to you the same
"medicine" you give to the all the people that write abot ufos and
paranormal in the "right" ngs.
You are the ones that write nosense off topic in these ngs example:

calling other's mothers names, harass people, kook nominations..kook
awards, of course among you there are just some mentally ill person,
but also most of you are paid to do so debunker-discredit, it is not a
segret anymore.

> > [snip]>
What about James McDonald ? this guy wasn't a kook..'cause he was a
> [snip googled cut and paste] What about Lazar Robert S. in 1997 he talked about the Dulce
> [snip googled cut and paste]
He *SAW* something..he went pubblic and now He must find himself in
trouble..
> > >
> [snip]

> > Here is an alternative scenario. A bunch of people tell tall tales, get a


> > lot of attention, and then tell more stories to make the first more
> > believeable, and on it goes. (Much the same as your lust for attention
> > which is obviously why you're whoring yourself out with the same crap
> > (that's the honor connection... get it?) ).

yes, I get it.. but I have to say (again) there are people used for
disinformations, people that just try to sells books or movies and
people that say the truth, meanwhile I'm a witness of paranormal

events, I know what I'm talking about..I know some con-men, but I also


know
that there are real paranormals events, I've study Tibetans,Ancient
Indus books..and I'm 100/100 sure that E.T.s are real, and "you" as
"someone" puppets try to deny it.


> > You keep posting the same worn out crap, you never answer in a responsible
> > way, just more of your "eeehhhe??!!" Jibberish (Oh yes, I know you speak
> > "jibberish", you've posted that answer half a hundred freaking times too)

responsible way ? I have questions for you, I've the answer too but if

I don't have 1000 witness and a team of scientists that can back me up
I can't prove to you..

Ok, I will do that, but right now I very busy.


*for the records I promise to do that.*
So stick around for the 18-19 of the february.

> > My prediction is that you'll just go careening
> off into space (like darth
> > vader) swearing and yelling "Punk!" at the top of your lungs.
> >
> > Bona Fortuna!

see I've to teach you Italian, it's Buona Fortuna...

> > O'
>
you missed the ball *punk* (as always)
What I've to say to you ?

maybe you will manage to wash someone'brain so far..so keep up the

Carl R. Osterwald

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Jan 28, 2004, 3:16:09 PM1/28/04
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In article <38aa83a2.04012...@posting.google.com>, Pietro
Sommavilla <judok...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> judo...@hotmail.com (Pietro Sommavilla) wrote in message
> news:<fd27f7c5.04012...@posting.google.com>...
> > "OhBrother" <Nob...@noplace.com> wrote in message
> > news:<B3PNb.10660$f97....@fe3.columbus.rr.com>...
> > > "Pietro Sommavilla" <judok...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:38aa83a2.04011...@posting.google.com...
> > > > Feb. 11 1949 Project Grudge Censorship
> > > >
> > [snip]
>
> Now since,I wrote these issues in the right ngs, I don't understand
> why these people (like DrPostman or Anglesea) wrote about others
> mother's a*** probes, ko0ks awards, and other off topic B.S. they
> should post in alt.kook,or alt. sex..in short they abuse people in the
> net and is very strange that nobody stops them.
>

[SNIP]

Replying to yourself Pietro?


-=-=-=-=-

none

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Jan 28, 2004, 3:31:59 PM1/28/04
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If that is so, you've got a real problem snookie.
>
>
>-=-=-=-=-

Pietro Sommavilla

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Jan 28, 2004, 4:21:40 PM1/28/04
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"Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote in message news:<270120041911336381%i...@mac.com>...

WOW ! THAnKS tHaNks ! this must be you ! the great wuss !.. I've
heard so much about you !
What's the holdup ? --you WUSS !

judoka_61

none

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Jan 28, 2004, 4:31:43 PM1/28/04
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On 28 Jan 2004 13:21:40 -0800, judok...@yahoo.com (Pietro Sommavilla)
wrote:

Well, what is the hold up?

Pietro Sommavilla

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Jan 28, 2004, 5:38:08 PM1/28/04
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"OhBrother" <Nob...@noplace.com> wrote in message news:<HWARb.6744$5I4....@fe1.columbus.rr.com>...

> "Pietro Sommavilla" <judo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fd27f7c5.0401...@posting.google.com...
> > judo...@hotmail.com (Pietro Sommavilla) wrote in message
> news:<fd27f7c5.04012...@posting.google.com>...
> > > "OhBrother" <Nob...@noplace.com> wrote in message
> news:<zX0Ob.14739$f97...@fe3.columbus.rr.com>...
> > > > "Pietro Sommavilla" <judok...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:38aa83a2.04011...@posting.google.com...
>
> > > >I got got no honor ? ..right!Hello ? you can see my yahoo profile on
> > > the net>
> >
> > ..you know I can't resist..I'm a puppets-addicted..
> >
> [snipped body of long outdated response - Pietro must be getting hard up to
> have to go so far back in the archives to find something to respond to...]

I'm busy I don't have a lot of time to write in this ng I want talk
with you
about a Ufo case for the start to the end so I will not *run off * as
you said.

> Thanks - I'll return the favor: it's "Mammoth" and not "Mammath" okay? Now
> we're even...

see now you run off

> > you missed the ball *punk* (as always)
> > What I've to say to you ?
> > Maybe you will manage to wash someone'brain so far..so keep up the
> > good job !
> >
> As predicted, you closed it out with another *punk* epithet and ran off.
>
> Is this the part where you reappear with another email name and congratulate
> yourself for being "Right on!"?

yes that was maybe maximus or dang ? that was done on purpouse 'cause
*you* use puppets and sock puppets

> As I said before, post one factoid and slug it out. Simply cutting and
> pasting articles from web sites and then asking "They aren't crazy are
> they?" puts you in the class of the Art WholeFlaffer's, just a cut and paste
> machine.

*evasion noted*
past and cut ? I used to read a lot in the net and since my English is
no good
sometimes I use the same words,meanwhile I gave you the chance to
prove who is wrong for the end of the month but *you* just run off.

> You're entitled to your beliefs. When you try to convince others of it then
> you'll get push back.
>
> Also, don't pump up your ego by believing you are being pursued by "Paid
> Government Disinformation Agents" - your 'cut and paste' of old FOAF stories
> lifted from other websites is unlikely to raise any eyebrows.
>
> > "see" you next month..!
> >
> > judoka_61
>
> Nah, I'm too busy to fool with you much longer.
>
> O'

I gave you a chance if you win, my "huge ego" will be no longer in
E.T.s ngs
and I will apologise to you and to those with some honor.

*I SWEAR*

It's up to you now.

judoka_61

Carl R. Osterwald

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Jan 28, 2004, 7:22:21 PM1/28/04
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In article <38aa83a2.0401...@posting.google.com>, Pietro
Sommavilla <judok...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Nice acceptance speech, Pietro.


-=-=-=-=-

Carl R. Osterwald

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Jan 28, 2004, 7:23:58 PM1/28/04
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In article <617g10dljp7s7ee0r...@4ax.com>, none
<an...@nospam.com> wrote:

Care to explain this delusion, Alexa?


-=-=-=-=-

anon

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Jan 28, 2004, 7:44:25 PM1/28/04
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:23:58 -0700, "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote:

[...]

>Care to explain this delusion, Alexa?

Message-ID: <j0cg10dtotv4g4e1c...@4ax.com>
>

anon

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Jan 28, 2004, 7:50:29 PM1/28/04
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It still make you look like a retard though.
>
>
>-=-=-=-=-

Pietro Sommavilla

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Jan 29, 2004, 7:42:01 AM1/29/04
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judok...@yahoo.com (Pietro Sommavilla) wrote in message news:<38aa83a2.04012...@posting.google.com>...

Ok you avoid a direct confront (surprise surprise) while you accused
me to run off from a debate about e.t. and ufo in these ngs, this is
one more evidence of you as a Punk.

thanks !
judoka_61

Pietro Sommavilla

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Jan 29, 2004, 10:55:55 AM1/29/04
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"Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote in message news:<280120041723580026%i...@mac.com>...
nope... I just produce a more transmissible and potentially deadly alien-virus.

> > If that is so, you've got a real problem snookie.
>
> Care to explain this delusion, Alexa?
>
>
> -=-=-=-=-

...steps down, puppet!

DrPostman

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Jan 29, 2004, 1:13:10 PM1/29/04
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On 29 Jan 2004 07:55:55 -0800, judok...@yahoo.com (Pietro
Sommavilla) wrote:


We told you not to be stupid, you moron.


--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors of afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® member #15-51506-253.
You can email me at: TuriFake(at)hotmail.com

"Yes, there are thankfully no lights in my head, pest."
- Joseph Bartlo

Carl R. Osterwald

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Jan 29, 2004, 1:29:54 PM1/29/04
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In article <5qlg1057fvu5bro30...@4ax.com>, anon
<an...@nospam.com> wrote:

OK, I'll spell it out slowly -- how does this paragraph that you blast
to usenet ad nauseum constitute a problem for me?


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Carl R. Osterwald

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Jan 29, 2004, 1:31:00 PM1/29/04
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Is this a threat?

> > > If that is so, you've got a real problem snookie.
> >
> > Care to explain this delusion, Alexa?
> >
> >
> > -=-=-=-=-
>
> ...steps down, puppet!

Whatever floats your boat, Pietro.

-=-=-=-=-

*

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Jan 29, 2004, 1:34:40 PM1/29/04
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:31:00 -0700, "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote:

[...]

>Is this a threat?


Do you feel threatened?

You should -- there's aliens in space. And here. And on Mars.


Carl R. Osterwald

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Jan 29, 2004, 1:33:39 PM1/29/04
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In article <k5mg10hfpsbt06nuv...@4ax.com>, anon
<an...@nospam.com> wrote:

Perhaps you need to clean your glasses.


-=-=-=-=-

*

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Jan 29, 2004, 1:37:40 PM1/29/04
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Hurry up and go to Mars, will ya. The locals are waiting for you.

Carl R. Osterwald

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Jan 29, 2004, 2:12:47 PM1/29/04
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In article <qcki101pnpslh4skj...@4ax.com>,
<nos...@plz.com> wrote:

Oh dear!


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Carl R. Osterwald

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Jan 29, 2004, 2:18:21 PM1/29/04
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In article <jmki10hq5c7307q4o...@4ax.com>,
<nos...@plz.com> wrote:

I really don't see how your behaviour on usenet is going win anyone
over to believe in your cause, crusade, whatever. Show all this
evidence you claim over and over and over that you possess.


-=-=-=-=-

*

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Jan 29, 2004, 5:04:51 PM1/29/04
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:18:21 -0700, "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote:

>In article <jmki10hq5c7307q4o...@4ax.com>,
><nos...@plz.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:29:54 -0700, "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <5qlg1057fvu5bro30...@4ax.com>, anon
>> ><an...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:23:58 -0700, "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> [...]
>> >>
>> >> >Care to explain this delusion, Alexa?
>> >>
>> >> Message-ID: <j0cg10dtotv4g4e1c...@4ax.com>
>> >
>> >OK, I'll spell it out slowly -- how does this paragraph that you blast
>> >to usenet ad nauseum constitute a problem for me?
>>
>> Hurry up and go to Mars, will ya. The locals are waiting for you.
>>
>
>I really don't see how your behaviour on usenet is going win anyone
>over to believe in your cause, crusade, whatever.

My my my dear, you make a lot of gross erroneous (egotistical) assumptions.

> Show all this evidence you claim over and over and over that you possess.

Post your dick to Usenet.


Pietro Sommavilla

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Jan 29, 2004, 5:30:46 PM1/29/04
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DrPostman <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message news:<u2ji1059t3ll1se2a...@4ax.com>...

Hey ! the great Wuss is back !

Stranges viruses in these lasts years..what you think about it.. jamie ?

judoka_61

Pietro Sommavilla

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Jan 29, 2004, 5:45:34 PM1/29/04
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"Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote in message news:<290120041133398301%i...@mac.com>...


HEY ! "YOU" are the mothers insultors, google is full of your
disgusting posts.

Two wrongs don't make a right, *none-anom. just let them be the only
mother insultor, or I will stop to post in these ngs for the joy of
the debunkers-puppets.

judoka_61

*

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Jan 29, 2004, 5:50:44 PM1/29/04
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On 29 Jan 2004 14:45:34 -0800, judok...@yahoo.com (Pietro Sommavilla)
wrote:

>"Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote in message news:<290120041133398301%i...@mac.com>...

The debunker-puppets are in an unenviable position.

They'll be the first to get murdered by Lockheed when the going gets really
tough.

Carl R. Osterwald

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Jan 29, 2004, 9:02:27 PM1/29/04
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In article <38aa83a2.04012...@posting.google.com>, Pietro
Sommavilla <judok...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:<290120041133398301%i...@mac.com>...
> > In article <k5mg10hfpsbt06nuv...@4ax.com>, anon
> > <an...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:22:21 -0700, "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >In article <38aa83a2.0401...@posting.google.com>, Pietro
> > > >Sommavilla <judok...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >>
> > > >> WOW ! THAnKS tHaNks ! this must be you ! the great wuss !.. I've
> > > >> heard so much about you !
> > > >> What's the holdup ? --you WUSS !
> > > >>
> > > >> judoka_61
> > > >
> > > >Nice acceptance speech, Pietro.
> > >
> > > It still make you look like a retard though.
> >
> > Perhaps you need to clean your glasses.
> >
> >
> > -=-=-=-=-
>
>
> HEY ! "YOU" are the mothers insultors, google is full of your
> disgusting posts.
>
> Two wrongs don't make a right, *none-anom. just let them be the only
> mother insultor, or I will stop to post in these ngs for the joy of
> the debunkers-puppets.

Please do so, Pietro. Your posts are highly entertaining.


-=-=-=-=-

Official AFA-B Bully and Gummint Disinformation Agent

Carl R. Osterwald

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Jan 29, 2004, 9:03:25 PM1/29/04
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In article <ag3j10pf7bue76l80...@4ax.com>,
<nos...@plz.com> wrote:

When are you going to present your evidence, Alexa?

*

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Jan 29, 2004, 9:12:22 PM1/29/04
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:03:25 -0700, "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote:

>In article <ag3j10pf7bue76l80...@4ax.com>,
><nos...@plz.com> wrote:
>
>> On 29 Jan 2004 14:45:34 -0800, judok...@yahoo.com (Pietro Sommavilla)
>> wrote:
>
>> >Two wrongs don't make a right, *none-anom. just let them be the only
>> >mother insultor, or I will stop to post in these ngs for the joy of
>> >the debunkers-puppets.
>> >
>> >judoka_61
>>
>> The debunker-puppets are in an unenviable position.
>>
>> They'll be the first to get murdered by Lockheed when the going gets really
>> tough.
>
>When are you going to present your evidence, Alexa?

Post your evidence to Usenet that Alexa is posting here.

You can't can you, you never have and never will because you're lying.

DrPostman

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Jan 30, 2004, 9:25:04 AM1/30/04
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On 29 Jan 2004 14:30:46 -0800, judok...@yahoo.com (Pietro
Sommavilla) wrote:


I think you are proud of being stupid, you moron.

Carl R. Osterwald

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Jan 30, 2004, 10:26:48 AM1/30/04
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In article <1afj10tr2blq4rlcg...@4ax.com>,
<nos...@plz.com> wrote:

So, no evidence, huh? Too bad.

*

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Jan 30, 2004, 1:23:28 PM1/30/04
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:26:48 -0700, "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote:

>In article <1afj10tr2blq4rlcg...@4ax.com>,
><nos...@plz.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:03:25 -0700, "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> >When are you going to present your evidence, Alexa?
>>
>> Post your evidence to Usenet that Alexa is posting here.
>>
>> You can't can you, you never have and never will because you're lying.
>
>So, no evidence, huh? Too bad.


There's plenty of evidence that you're a retard too.

*

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Jan 30, 2004, 2:27:25 PM1/30/04
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:26:48 -0700, "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote:

>In article <1afj10tr2blq4rlcg...@4ax.com>,
><nos...@plz.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:03:25 -0700, "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> >When are you going to present your evidence, Alexa?
>>
>> Post your evidence to Usenet that Alexa is posting here.
>>
>> You can't can you, you never have and never will because you're lying.
>
>So, no evidence, huh? Too bad.

So "Carl' you are a fascist pig. Figures.

Pietro Sommavilla

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Jan 30, 2004, 2:48:02 PM1/30/04
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DrPostman <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message news:<a3qk10lbqsqetkkjq...@4ax.com>...

> On 29 Jan 2004 14:30:46 -0800, judok...@yahoo.com (Pietro
> Sommavilla) wrote:
>
> >DrPostman <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message news:<u2ji1059t3ll1se2a...@4ax.com>...
> >
> >Hey ! the great Wuss is back !
> >
> >Stranges viruses in these lasts years..what you think about it.. jamie ?

..and the mouthpiece of the puppets says..

> I think you are proud of being stupid, you moron.

..hear that from you is an honor..thanks !

AIDS; there are millions of victims, could be that an alien's virus ?


judoka_61

Carl R. Osterwald

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Jan 30, 2004, 3:59:31 PM1/30/04
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In article <nvbl10lhnk07ol4av...@4ax.com>,
<nos...@plz.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:26:48 -0700, "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <1afj10tr2blq4rlcg...@4ax.com>,
> ><nos...@plz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:03:25 -0700, "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >When are you going to present your evidence, Alexa?
> >>
> >> Post your evidence to Usenet that Alexa is posting here.
> >>
> >> You can't can you, you never have and never will because you're lying.
> >
> >So, no evidence, huh? Too bad.
>
> So "Carl' you are a fascist pig. Figures.

Ta ta.

PLONK

*

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Jan 30, 2004, 4:30:31 PM1/30/04
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That's a fascist for you. Of course you'll never really plonk me one of your
other socks, u bob, m davis, petro somalliviwahat's-his-name, Oh brother, a
whole suite of Chen posters -- why? Cause 'chen' works for Lockheed that's
why!

*

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Jan 30, 2004, 4:35:28 PM1/30/04
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That's a fascist for you. Of course you'll never really plonk me one of your


other socks, u bob, m davis, petro somalliviwahat's-his-name, Oh brother, a
whole suite of Chen posters -- why? Cause 'chen' works for Lockheed that's
why!

And *I* know who 'chen' really is! And he's in league with the psyops!

All Lockheed fascist pigs.

*

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Jan 30, 2004, 6:15:02 PM1/30/04
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On 30 Jan 2004 23:10:53 GMT, Robert Buchanan <?????????@?????????.???>
wrote:

>How many times will people have to tell you that you're a lunatic before
>you realize it's true?

When you're no longer posting as his sock puppet.

DrPostman

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Jan 30, 2004, 7:32:58 PM1/30/04
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On 30 Jan 2004 11:48:02 -0800, judok...@yahoo.com (Pietro
Sommavilla) wrote:

>DrPostman <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message news:<a3qk10lbqsqetkkjq...@4ax.com>...
>> On 29 Jan 2004 14:30:46 -0800, judok...@yahoo.com (Pietro
>> Sommavilla) wrote:
>>
>> >DrPostman <Lo...@mysig.foremail> wrote in message news:<u2ji1059t3ll1se2a...@4ax.com>...
>> >
>> >Hey ! the great Wuss is back !
>> >
>> >Stranges viruses in these lasts years..what you think about it.. jamie ?
>
>..and the mouthpiece of the puppets says..
>
>> I think you are proud of being stupid, you moron.
>
>..hear that from you is an honor..thanks !
>
>AIDS; there are millions of victims, could be that an alien's virus ?


No, you stupid bastard, it came from monkeys like you.


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AIDS; there are millions of victims, could be that an alien's virus ?

>>>> No, you stupid bastard, it came from monkeys like you.

and this is another proof of what you are....thanks !

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..see Mr. *, this is what I was talking about.

Now, if you calling up to his mother, would you be a better than him ?
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*I talk also to those Italians* that use those morphinDrPostmans, you
are not better than him, *YOU* are the same wuss.

judoka_61

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