Help With Chant
Steven Robert Morrison
What is the Gods chant equivalent of the following Goddess chant?
Isis Astarte Diana Hecate Demeter Kali Inannu
Winter?
apt...@netcom.com
Steven Robert Morrison (bd...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
: What is the Gods chant equivalent of the following Goddess chant?
: Isis Astarte Diana Hecate Demeter Kali Inannu
Neptune, Osiris, Merlin, Mannanon,Helios, Shiva, Horned One.
BTW, that's "Inanna", *not* "Inannu". Fussy type, that Goddess.
B*B
Nina
--
Nan Alexander
apt...@netcom.com wrote:
>B*B
>Nina
>--
>
I once learned :
Pan, Woden, Baphomet, Cernnunos, Osiris
but the tune is different and sort of fits with the Goddess chant.
BB
N
Tara
Susan Profit wrote:
>
> In article <4v857j$2...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
> Steven Robert Morrison <bd...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote:
> >What is the Gods chant equivalent of the following Goddess chant?
> >
> >Isis Astarte Diana Hecate Demeter Kali Inannu
>
> In Pattalee Glass-Koentop's Year of Moons, Season of Trees there is an
> interesting appendix of songs, including musical notations. She gives,
> unattributed, these two versions:
>
> Neptune Osiris Merlin Manannon Helios Siva Horned One
>
> and
>
> Pan Poseidon Dionysus Cernunnos Mithras Loki Apollo
>
> (although I have also heard that last one: Pan Woden Baphomet Cernunnos
> Osiris {silent pause}).
>
> @}->- ;) Tinne :D Laughter Heals :) -<-{@
I have always heard the god chant this way:
Osi-ris, A-don-is, Khu-ruz, Pan, Dio-ny-sus, Shi-va, Da-mu-zi
Khuruz being a variation of the name Cernunnos and pronounced koo-rooz
and the last name, Damuzi, being drawn out like Innana in three
syllables.
Note that these God names are a reflection of the Goddess names, from
the same cultures, Isis and Osiris, Astarte and Adonis, Diana (or Danu)
and Khuruz, (Cernunnos) Hecate and Pan, Demeter and Dionysus, Kali and
Shiva, Inanna and Damuzi.
But this may just be a regional variation here in the West.
Tara
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Dear Winter,
Steven Robert Morrison wrote:
>
> What is the Gods chant equivalent of the following Goddess chant?
I'm not sure what it is, and would also be interested in finding out
if there is one. Though, I don't see why one couldn't just make one up.
>
> Isis Astarte Diana Hecate Demeter Kali Inannu
Ummm... since I know little of Mork and Mindy, I don't think nannu
should be listed. ;) I believe you meant Inanna.
BLessings,
Kethera
alar...@together.net
Steven Robert Morrison wrote:
>
> What is the Gods chant equivalent of the following Goddess chant?
>
>
Well, if you keep the same pantheons, then try
Osiris, Baal, Apollo, Pluto, Dionysus, Shiva, Damuzzi (or Tammuz) but
the problem is that some of these are not an exact match (i.e. Hecate,
Demeter and Diana) 'cause they really didn't have consorts or opposites
in their pantheon.
alaric77
Aazari
On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Susan Profit wrote:
> In article <4v857j$2...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
> Steven Robert Morrison <bd...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote:
> >What is the Gods chant equivalent of the following Goddess chant?
> >
> >Isis Astarte Diana Hecate Demeter Kali Inannu
> >Winter?
>
> In Pattalee Glass-Koentop's Year of Moons, Season of Trees there is an
> interesting appendix of songs, including musical notations. She gives,
> unattributed, these two versions:
>
> Neptune Osiris Merlin Manannon Helios Siva Horned One
>
> and
>
> Pan Poseidon Dionysus Cernunnos Mithras Loki Apollo
>
> (although I have also heard that last one: Pan Woden Baphomet Cernunnos
> Osiris {silent pause}).
>
> @}->- ;) Tinne :D Laughter Heals :) -<-{@
Hmmmmmm. Merlin? I wasn't aware he had risen to god-hood.... I
mean that seems illogical what with so many people claiming to be Merlin
reincarnated.
Aazari
Tongue planted firmly in cheek ;)
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Dyan
In article <4vdmnb$d...@uwm.edu>, hamr...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Jason Jack
Hamilton) wrote:
> This may be a silly addition to this, however as a solitary I havent
> found a way to learn the music for the chants....
>
> Is there a cd, or tape or SOMETHING that sings even ONE version of it?
>
> *sighing*
>
> walk softly
>
> Catspaw
>
> **Standard disclaimer: I amnot nor claim to represent JJHamilton, he is
> merely kind enough to allow me to use his account)
>
Christy Moore on his cd "Smoke & Strong Whiskey" sings the Burning Times
song and in that song, he uses the Isis Astarte... chant. It's a
wonderful and powerful song and it gives me goosebumps every single time I
hear him sing it!
Lady Crow
The Crow laughs under a street light, a voodoo smile of one who lived and died and still yet lives --J O'Barr--
Jason Jack Hamilton
Magawiska
I am not certain where to find this, but I believe I have heard on the public radio a
song called "Burning Times" by Rumors of the Big Wave? that sings the chant
Isis Astarte Diana Hecate Demeter Kali, Innana.
And I probably misspelled one or more of their names.
I have searched long for this CD so if anyone knows the real artist or song title,
please enlighten me.
-Maga
In article <4vdmnb$d...@uwm.edu>, hamr...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu says...
Laurence Kriv
In <4vdq08$c...@newshost.cyberramp.net> reb...@cyberramp.net (Magawiska)
writes:
>I am not certain where to find this, but I believe I have heard on the
public radio a
>song called "Burning Times" by Rumors of the Big Wave? that sings the
chant
>Isis Astarte Diana Hecate Demeter Kali, Innana.
>
>And I probably misspelled one or more of their names.
>
>I have searched long for this CD so if anyone knows the real artist or
song title,
>please enlighten me.
>
>-Maga
The son is called "Burning Times" and the tape/CD is also titled
"Burning Times". The group is Rumors of the Big Wave. The lead vocals
and guitar are by Charlie Murphy.
Hope this helps.
BB,
Janet
Susan Profit
The following is a listing of Chant sources from my collection. It is not
comprehensive of all that is available or even all that is on/in the
various sources, many of these are consistently available in the various
metaphysical bookstores in my region. Some of the chants are rarely heard,
others are so common there are regional variations on both the lyrics and
the tunes. Some of the music has been studio polished, and some of it is
recordings that are more causal, so the quality of the voices can vary.
If you can't find them locally, try contacting Serpentine Music or
the artists directly.
Serpentine Music
P. O. Box 1667
Forestville CA 95436
Burning Times by Rumors of the Big Wave
Isis, Astarte, etc.
Oxymoron
9532 Quakertown Avenue
Chatsworth CA 91311-5521
Chants: Ritual Music by Reclaiming Community
Beginning of the Earth
Touching her Deep
Air I am
Rise With the Fire
Snake Woman
Goddess Medley: Isis, Astarte, etc.
We are an Old People
I am a Strong Woman
We are the Flow
Silver Shining Wheel
Where there's Fear There's Power
Hecate Cerridwen
Born of Water
Air Moves Us
Water and Stone
We All Come from the Goddess/Hoof and Horn
Kore Chant (She changes everything she touches)
Sun King
We Are Alive
Let It Begin Now by Reclaiming
(In it's entirety a Samhain Rite, very powerful and healing after the
loss of a loved one)
Lyke Wake Dirge
No End to the Circle (Invocation and Devocation included)
Reclaiming Community
P. O. Box 14404
San Francisco CA 94114
Enchantress by Gypsy
Bring Back the Light (the heart of a Solstice Ritual)
Enchantress (A musical circle casting and release)
White Light Pentacles
P. O. Box 8163
Salem MA 01971-8163
Eye of the Womb by Jana Runnalls
Dark Moon Chant
The River Is Flowing
Ova Music Studio
25 Bertram Street
London N19 5DQ
(01 281-2528)
A Gift of Song by Brooke Medicine Eagle
Wishi Ti
Spirit of the Wind
Secret One Inside
Neesa Neesa
Mother I Feel You
Winged Ones Come
Ama Terra
Singing Joy to the Earth By Brook Medicine Eagle
We All Fly Like Eagles
Ancient Mother
Brooke Medicine Eagle
Sky Lodge
P. O. Box 121
Ovando, MT 59854
Gifts To Each Other By Lyn Milum
Un Go Wa
Fly Like An Eagle
We Are Alive
Shining Spokes
Hey Yana
Nissa
The Earth is Our Mother
Gifts to Each Other
We all Come from the Mother
I Circle Around
The Ocean is The Beginning
I am a Circle
We Are One
The River is Flowing
We Are Going
Evening Breeze, Spirit Song
Our Magic is Our Giveaway
Ancient Mother
Gather and Share
Lyn Milum P. O. Box 940402
Maitland FL 32794-0402
The Goddess in The Kingdom of Death by James Gagne
An oratorio of Inanna's Descent and Return
New Moon Performing Ensemble
P. O. Box 1725
Poulsbo WA 98370
Pomegranate by Pomegranate
Side A is a Dianic Circle, Side B is a Seasonal Cycle
Earth Mother
Aphrodite
Blessed Mother
Huntress
Pomegranate
P. O. Box 21221
Baltimore MD 21228
Ritual Songs by the Colorado Midwives Association
(Birth Cycle)
Woman Am I
Opening
I am the Circle
There is Only One River
May the Blessings of God
We Are Sisters
We All come from God
Earth, Water, Fire, Air
We all Fly Like Eagles
Mother Moon
Wearing My long Wing Feathers
We are the Flow
Ritual Songs
Salina Star Rt Gold Hill
Boulder CO 80302
Ancient Mother by On the Wings of Song
Ancient Mother
Lady of the Flowing Waters
The Circle is Cast
Songs of Healing By Wings of Song
Listen Listen Listen
Return Again to the Mother
May the Long Time Sun
Spring Hill Music
P. O. Box 800
Boulder CO 80306
Kent and Kat Dyer
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THANKS!!!
Blessed Be
Kat
Susan Profit
Again, this is not a comprehensive listing, but a guide to several sources
of words -and- music to chants and ritual songs found in my collection.
Lots of books have chants and poems, these are the ones that I know also
include the musical notation to help you figure it out on your own if you
need to.
Circle of Song: Songs, Chants and Dances for Ritual and Celebration by
Kate Marks, Full Circle Press 1993 ISBN 0-9637489-O-4 278 pages
Best of the three, in the Native American section I saw chants and sogs I
know from a childhood in Montana but also lincludes a lot of the standard
Wiccan and Neo-Pagan chants as well.
Buckland's Complete Book of Witchcraft by Ray Buckland Llewellyn Press
1986 ISBN 0-87542-050-8
Only one chant in here is used much in the PNW.
Year of Moons, Season of Trees by Pattalee Glass-Koentop Llewellyn Press
1991 ISBN 0-87542-269-1
Includes not only the previously mentioned god chants but also has a
Charge of the God that goes well with D. Valiente's Charge of the Goddess.
Other sources that I've overlooked?
Jennifer JZ McEarchern
>What is the Gods chant equivalent of the following Goddess chant?
>
One that I've seen/heard is
Mithra Osiris Cernunnos Apollo Hanuman Wotan Chango
I occasionally have trouble getting the syllables to fit quite
right, but it's a place to start from if nothing else.
blessings
John Finnegan
On 21 Aug 1996 00:54:03 GMT, hamr...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Jason Jack
Hamilton) wrote:
>This may be a silly addition to this, however as a solitary I havent
>found a way to learn the music for the chants....
>
>Is there a cd, or tape or SOMETHING that sings even ONE version of it?
I learned the "Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hecate, Demeter, Kali, Inanna"
chant from a cassette called "Drink from the Well", available from the
Souds True catalogue.
Susan Profit
In article <4vdmnb$d...@uwm.edu>,
Jason Jack Hamilton <hamr...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
>This may be a silly addition to this, however as a solitary I havent
>found a way to learn the music for the chants....
>Is there a cd, or tape or SOMETHING that sings even ONE version of it?
Settle for two to choose from?
Reclaiming Community's Chants: Ritual Music
Reclaiming Chants
P. O. Box 14404
San Francisco CA
94114
Also found on Burning Times, sung by Rumors of the Big Wave
Oxymoron
9532 Quakertown Avenue
Chatsworth CA 91399-5521
Mary Creasey
>if there is one. Though, I don't see why one couldn't just make one up.
>
>>
I learned it as "Mithra [Neptune], Osiris, Myrddin, Manannon, Helios,
Shiva, Horned One"; this was part of the 7-part contrapuntal version
I learned.
Mary the Filker
Aazari
> > This may be a silly addition to this, however as a solitary I havent
> > found a way to learn the music for the chants....
> >
> > Is there a cd, or tape or SOMETHING that sings even ONE version of it?
> >
> > Catspaw
>
> Christy Moore on his cd "Smoke & Strong Whiskey" sings the Burning Times
> song and in that song, he uses the Isis Astarte... chant. It's a
> wonderful and powerful song and it gives me goosebumps every single time I
> hear him sing it!
>
> Lady Crow
There's also a tape called From the Goddess which has the chant
in question as part of a round. Wish I could remember the artist's name,
but my brain seems to be on vacation today. :)
Aazari
Aazari
> @}->- ;) Tinne :D Laughter Heals :) -<-{@
A Bard's Book of Pagan Songs by Hugin the Bard
A book with many, many (mostly Celtic in origin) songs and chants
complete with time and chord notations and multiple verses for each song.
A great one for the musically inclined and the not-so musically inclined. :)
Kurt Griffith
Hello everybody. I've been reading with great interest the recent postings
concerning the "Goddess Chant" and possible God counterparts.
My name is Kurt Griffith, a.k.a Talking Stone and I and the director of the
Four Winds Earth Chorus in New York City, home of a funky, but rockin' Pagan
community. We've done some research into the subject and would like to share
some stuff.
The "Goddess Chant" is part of a song called "The Burning Times" by Charley
Murphy, he also wrote the Solstice honoring "Light Is Returning". Another
rendition of "Burning Times" appears on Todd Alan's Carry Me Home tape/CD(?).
Over time many pagan folk extracted the Goddess Chant and used it in their
rituals and it got passed from circle to circle.
I have seen several versions of "God Chants" over the years but the one that
we've settled on was one put together by a local pagan fellow, Peter Hoffer
a.k.a Shadow who just recently passed over. Earlier versions that attempted to
provide the precise pantheic/mythological counterparts were, of course,
pendantically and literally correct, but they were mostly beasts to sing. The
scanning and syllable counts never quite worked out.
In preparing a public Samhain ritual some years back, the pagan networking
organization New Moon New York struggled with this problem. we finally decided
that the chants in their intention was not to call upon not just the specific
deities named, but the Goddess Principle, or the universal Feminine Power. Once
that idea jelled, Peter wrote the version that the Chorun now uses and is
common in the Northeast.
Mithras Osiris Cernunnos Appolo Hannuman Wotan Chango (or Sango)
These Gods are not the exact consorts of the Goddesses in the Goddess Chant,
but they equally represent the God Principle, or the universal Masculine Power.
It is also nicely singable.
I hope this was helpful to people. Sharing bardic lore is an important part of
Four Winds spiritual mission.
Blessings, Kurt Talking Stone
"We are not professionals, you CAN do this at home!"
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Kent and Kat Dyer
Aazari wrote:
> A Bard's Book of Pagan Songs by Hugin the Bard
>
> A book with many, many (mostly Celtic in origin) songs and chants
> complete with time and chord notations and multiple verses for each song.
> A great one for the musically inclined and the not-so musically inclined. :)
Does that mean that it doesn't have scores? I really want music with
scores so that I know how it should *sound*!! That's been my big beef.
Right now I've just got the notes written in above the lyrics in _The
Oak, Ash & Thorn Episcipagan Choir Hymnal_ but someday in my copious free
time (ha!) I hope to get it all scored.
Blessed Be
Kat
Aazari
>
> Does that mean that it doesn't have scores? I really want music with
> scores so that I know how it should *sound*!! That's been my big beef.
> Right now I've just got the notes written in above the lyrics in _The
> Oak, Ash & Thorn Episcipagan Choir Hymnal_ but someday in my copious free
> time (ha!) I hope to get it all scored.
>
> Blessed Be
>
> Kat
sheet music for the songs it contains along with the verses. A word of
warning though, if you're a strictly by ear or C Major musician as I tend
to be, this book will offer some challenges as a good many of the songs
are written in other keys. I've had to get out my old music notation book
from college and transcribe using it, so that I can actually play the
songs instead of trying to muddle through the keys I'm less skilled
with. :)
Aazari
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jaq...@en.com
In article <Pine.SCO.3.90.960825...@blkbox.blkbox.COM>,
Aazari <imag...@blkbox.com> wrote:
> >
> > Does that mean that it doesn't have scores? I really want music with
> > scores so that I know how it should *sound*!! That's been my big beef.
> > Right now I've just got the notes written in above the lyrics in _The
> > Oak, Ash & Thorn Episcipagan Choir Hymnal_ but someday in my copious free
> > time (ha!) I hope to get it all scored.
> >
> > Blessed Be
> >
> > Kat
>
> Let me clrify:). The Bard's Book of Pagan Songs does provide
> sheet music for the songs it contains along with the verses. A word of
> warning though, if you're a strictly by ear or C Major musician as I tend
> to be, this book will offer some challenges as a good many of the songs
> are written in other keys. I've had to get out my old music notation book
> from college and transcribe using it, so that I can actually play the
> songs instead of trying to muddle through the keys I'm less skilled
> with. :)
>
Mark's _Circle of Song_ has notation too, but u kneed to b a gud musishan
to figgur it out, becuz thuh muzik proofreeding wus nonexistent. (To a
musician, it reads a little like this last sentence.)
--
Jeffrey Quick
http://www.en.com/users/jaquick
Robin Simons
Jennifer JZ McEarchern (JEN...@MUSIC.CC.UGA.EDU) wrote:
: >What is the Gods chant equivalent of the following Goddess chant?
: >Isis Astarte Diana Hecate Demeter Kali Inannu
:
: One that I've seen/heard is
: Mithra Osiris Cernunnos Apollo Hanuman Wotan Chango
:
: I occasionally have trouble getting the syllables to fit quite
: right, but it's a place to start from if nothing else.
: blessings
I know one that goes:
Lugh Herne Gwydion Cernunnos Dagda
Robin
beth thompson
In article <Pine.SCO.3.90.960825...@blkbox.blkbox.COM>,
Aazari <imag...@blkbox.com> writes
>>
>> Does that mean that it doesn't have scores? I really want music with
>> scores so that I know how it should *sound*!! That's been my big beef.
>> Right now I've just got the notes written in above the lyrics in _The
>> Oak, Ash & Thorn Episcipagan Choir Hymnal_ but someday in my copious free
>> time (ha!) I hope to get it all scored.
>>
>> Blessed Be
>>
>> Kat
>
> Let me clrify:). The Bard's Book of Pagan Songs does provide
>sheet music for the songs it contains along with the verses. A word of
>warning though, if you're a strictly by ear or C Major musician as I tend
>to be, this book will offer some challenges as a good many of the songs
>are written in other keys. I've had to get out my old music notation book
>from college and transcribe using it, so that I can actually play the
>songs instead of trying to muddle through the keys I'm less skilled
>with. :)
>
>
>
>******************************************************************************
>
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>
> Aazari's Web,P.O. Box 1006,Texas City TX,77592-1006
>
> A newszine seeking fresh talent in the Pagan community
>
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>
>On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, Kent and Kat Dyer wrote:
>
>> Aazari wrote:
>
>I know of another a better one with 84 chants AND music
>Do you want it?
>Fl...@gates.demon.co.uk
--
beth thompson
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sir...@midtown.net
>> Let me clrify:). The Bard's Book of Pagan Songs does provide
>>sheet music for the songs it contains along with the verses. A word of
>>warning though, if you're a strictly by ear or C Major musician as I tend
>>to be, this book will offer some challenges as a good many of the songs
>>are written in other keys. I've had to get out my old music notation book
>>from college and transcribe using it, so that I can actually play the
>>songs instead of trying to muddle through the keys I'm less skilled
>>with. :)
>>
>>
>> Aazari
>
>>> Aazari wrote:
>>> > A Bard's Book of Pagan Songs by Hugin the Bard
>>
>>I know of another a better one with 84 chants AND music
>>Do you want it?
>>Fl...@gates.demon.co.uk
I know Hugin the Bard, the music is beautiful. I have a tape he made
about 8 years or so ago. I am glad eh is doing so well :>
I am also interested in the other book :>
>--
>beth thompson
>Turnpike evaluation. For Turnpike information, mailto:in...@turnpike.com
happy trails robert
Luchtaine
In article <4v857j$2...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
bd...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Steven Robert Morrison) writes:
>
>What is the Gods chant equivalent of the following Goddess chant?
>
>Isis Astarte Diana Hecate Demeter Kali Inannu
>
>
Another variation is the one that my group uses... the syllables come out
quite well
Pan, Herne, Osiris, Priapus, Baal, Dionysus, Apollo, Lugh
BTW: I meet Charlie Murphy (writer of "The Burning Times" and others) at
Heartland this past spring... very nice man... quiet, unassuming... but
when he plays and sings.... Magic Happens.
Brand Luchtaine