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recovered memory of sexual abuse.
2. Dr. Freyd’s memories were supported by other family members.
Her uncle William, Peter’s brother, stated in a letter
that "there’s no doubt in my mind that there was severe
abuse.... The false memory syndrome foundaton is a fraud
designed to deny a reality that Peter and Pam have spent most of
their lives trying to escape. There’s no such thing as a false
memory syndrome. It is not, by any normal standard, a
foundation. Neither Peter nor Pam have any significant mental
health expertise."
3. The False Memory Syndrome Foundation created the term "false
memory syndrome" to explain how false accusations could occur.
Further than that, however, the FMSF has taken the stance that
delayed memories are often false, and that memories recovered in
therapy are particularly suspicious. Their theory has been that
vulnerable women are often coerced into believing they have been
abused by therapists who are either more interested in having
long-term clients than in assisting those clients, or who are
unknowingly creating false memories in their clients through
hypnosis or suggestion.
4. Members of the FMSF are largely individuals who seek to
defend themselves from accusations of sexual abuse of children.
The FMSF does not attempt to determine whether these members are
falsely accused or not. However, everyone who contacts their
organization is included in their statistics of "falsely
accused". There is little discrimination or skepticism, although
members often criticize supporters of survivors of sexual abuse
for believing the survivors. The language used by the FMSF
(particularly in its newsletter) regarding psychiatry,
therapists, survivors, and women in general is frequently
negative. For example, the previous quote attempting to define
false memory syndrome implies that those who recall past abuse
are suffering from a personality disorder, rather than
retrieving recollections of actual events.
5. FMS is not listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual-
IV (1994).
6. Despite its scientific sounding title, there is actually no
such thing as a clinically acknowledged category for "false
memory syndrome." Judith Herman, an associate clinical
professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, and author of
the book, Trauma and Recovery claims that, "The very name FMSF
is prejudicial and misleading." "There is no such syndrome,
and we have no evidence reported memories are false. We only
know they are disputed," said Dr. Herman.
7. Researchers at University College London claim their study
of data from 236 adults with recovered memories shows many are
of true past events.
8. The British Psychological Society released a statement that
says: ``There is now consistent evidence that 'False Memory
Syndrome' cannot explain all, or even most, examples of
recovered memories of trauma.'' Dr Bernice Andrews, who
conducted the study said, "To date there is no convincing
evidence for a specific False Memory Syndrome."
9. The majority of sexually abused children are girls. The
National Committee for the Prevention of Child Abuse has
estimated that one in three girls is sexually abused before age
18 (one in four before 14), and one in six boys before age 16.
In 85% of cases, the perpetrator is known to the victim, and 1
in 25 girls is sexually abused by her father. (NCPCA)
10. The FMSF believes that women who report recovered memories
of sexual abuse are led by therapists to accuse their own
families of abuse from their own sincere belief of incidents
which did not occur. However, the FMSF provides no research or
statistics to support this claim. Much FMSF evidence appears to
be anecdotal.
11. The FMSF has even appeared to falsify its own membership
statistics - for example, in the June 7, 1995 newsletter,
Accuracy About Abuse, the following notice appeared:
The American False Memory Syndrome Foundation is widely
quoted as having 16,000 families as members but recently Peter
Freyd admitted they have only about 2500 dues paying members.
The British False Memory Society which maintains close
links with the American FMSF, now admits to 230 paid members as
of December 1994, not the 650 more usually reported.
12. Ralph Underwager (who coined the term "false memory
syndrome") and Hollida Wakefield, a married couple on the
original FMSF Board of Advisors, have gone so far as to claim
that "the women who make false allegations based on recovered
memories [are] very angry, hostile, and sometimes paranoid...
All will have demonstrated some type of psychopathology in
earlier parts of their lives." (1984) Again, no evidence to
support this is given. Neither do they state how such
accusations have been determined to be false. Nor do Wakefield
and Underwager consider why such women might justifiably be
angry or appear "paranoid".
13. The FMSF does not discuss the possibility that accused
parents are misremembering the abuse (or lack thereof.) In an
article in the Psychological Bulletin, Brewin notes:
Memories of childhood are likely to be more mis-remembered
by over positive parents than their adult children. Parents may
play a significant role in distorting reality and determining
the family mythology concerning earlier events. Parental reports
are especially suspect as a guide to the reality of family life.
Memory biases are not found more often in anxious patients and
the recall of psychiatric patients is as reliable as that of non
patients. The central features of accounts of childhood are
likely to be reasonably accurate. Because memory distortion
occurs more often to inhibit recall or disclosure, it seems fair
to conclude that reports confirming events should be given more
weight than ones which deny them.
14. Jackson and Thomas note that " It is now generally
recognized by those working with sex offenders that child
abusers, rapists and perpetrators of incest have an
extraordinary capacity for denial and minimisation." Anna
Salter, in her book Treating Child Sex Offenders and Victims,
remarks that "Offenders may continue to assert their innocence
despite overwhelming evidence and despite good rapport with
their therapists .... offenders can be quite convincing when
asserting their innocence." However, the FMSF makes no mention
of this possibility.
15. There has been very little scientific endeavor involved in
the formation and advertisement of "false memory syndrome". In a
1994 interview with the publication Treating Abuse Today , FMSF
Exective Director Pamela Freyd was unable to provide a
definition for "false memory syndrome". It is difficult to see
how FMSF members could make claims about a syndrome so ill-
defined that even their own Executive Director could not explain
it. FMSF members paradoxically claim to place great value on
scientific inquiry, while permitting their syndrome to remain so
vaguely defined that it is virtually impossible not only to
study it, but to determine who suffers from it.
16. A literature review by Wendy E. Hovdestad and Connie M.
Kristiansen in the Journal of Psychiatry and Law attempted to
determine clusters of symptoms underlying false memory syndrome
as described by the FMSF. They then examined women with
recovered memory for congruence with these clusters, and
discovered that only 3.9% to 13.6% percent of these women with
recovered memory met the criteria used by the FMSF itself to
define false memory syndrome. This indicates that even of those
women in the highest "risk group" for false memory syndrome,
only a small percentage comforms to the (problematic)
description provided by the FMSF, which contrasts quite
dramatically with the FMSF’s description of a "false memory
syndrome epidemic" sweeping the country. (The FMSF have been
making claims that there is a false memory syndrome epidemic
since 1993.)
17. FMSF members call those who believe survivors'
stories "true believers", comparing them to hysterical murderers
of witches (in this case, the witches are the innocent accused).
FMSF members have personally attacked those who disagree with
them, yet also accuse those same people for " unprofessional"
and "unscientific" behavior. Many of these personal attacks are
irrelevant to the discussion, such as when Marjorie Orr of the
newsletter Accuracy About Abuse was ridiculed for her belief in
astrology. However, in a few notable cases, the attacks were
public and unfounded. For example, Elizabeth Loftus accused
Kenneth Pope, a respected memory and trauma researcher, in the
APA journal Clinical Psychology of being "wildly reckless" in an
area of ethics. Her claim was later investigated by the journal
and found to be false. The Fall 1997 issue of the journal
published a correction and apology for the "false statement
disparaging Dr. Pope’s ethics". (POPE LETTER ETC) It is
disheartening to observe the FMSF, which in its newsletters and
publications continually emphasizes the importance of scientific
discourse, actively promoting such accusations.
18. In further evidence of questionable activity by FMSF board
members, Notes from the Controversy (Treating Abuse Today, Nov./
December 1995, Jan./ Feb. 1996), discusses ethics complaints
filed with the American Psychological Association against
Elizabeth Loftus regarding her article "Remembering
Dangerously", which was published in a 1995 issue of Skeptical
Inquirer, a publication of the Committee for the Investigation
of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP). In this article, Loftus
reviews the case study of "Jennifer H.", in which she cites the
court case Hoult vs. Hoult (thus revealing the identity of the
persons involved). In 1988, Jennifer Hoult sued her father
alleging sexual abuse and rape. Hoult provided corroborative
evidence and was awarded $500,000 by the jury for the suffering
caused by her father's abuse. Higher courts later upheld this
jury's decision, including the first circuit appellate court. At
some point during the proceedings, which lasted more than five
years, Hoult's father joined the FMSF.
19. In "Remembering Dangerously," Loftus (who is not a
clinician and who has no training or clinical experience in
child psychology, trauma, processes of traumatic memory, or
child sexual abuse) claimed that Hoult recovered her memories in
therapy, which was not the case. According to Hoult, Loftus
added events to the case study which did not occur and made
various misstatements regarding the abuse.
20. In the January/February 1995 issue of Psychology Today,
Loftus reviewed the legal case of Lynn Crook, who successfully
sued her parents for abuse. Crook had presented testimony in her
case from two sisters who also remembered incest by their
father. In the article, Loftus presented the case with
(according to Crook) nine crucial misstatements.
As a result of the errors in these articles, Jennifer Hoult
and Lynn Crook, filed separate complaints with the APA against
Elizabeth Loftus. Crook and Hoult filed their complaints on
December 18, 1995. According to the rules and procedures of the
APA ethics office, the chairman of the APA Ethics Committee (an
active expert witness for accused perpetrators of abuse, and
against therapists accused of implanting false memories in their
clients) was responsible for the initial screening of all such
complaints. The chairman and Loftus were, in fact, working
together on a different case when the complaints were filed.
They later claimed they had been unaware of this coincidence.
The chair took no action before Loftus resigned from the APA
less than a month later. After Loftus' resignation, the APA
declined to investigate the charges.
Loftus gave as her reason for resigning from the APA as her
belief that the APA had "moved away from scientific and
scholarly thinking." The APA publishes many of the most
prominent scientific psychological journals.
21. The FMSF is characteristically intolerant of those who do
not agree with their beliefs. In the newsletter and in board
member publications, people with recovered memories and their
supporters (particularly therapists) are compared to accusers in
the Salem "witch hunts". FMSF members consider themselves to be
victims of a "modern witch hunt". In fact, a popular Internet
mailing list of supporters of FMS (listed on the FMS home page,
but officially "not affiliated with the FMSF") is
called "WITCHUNT", and is described on the FMS website as "a
discussion list about the recent ‘ritual child abuse’ trials‘".
In Loftus' 1995 introduction to her article Remembering
Dangerously, Loftus says "we live in a strange and precarious
time that resembles at its heart of the hysteria and
superstitious fervor of the witch trials of the 16th and 17th
centuries. Men and women are being accused, tried, and convicted
with no proof or evidence of guilt other than the word of the
accuser. Even when the accusations involve numerous
perpetrators, conflicting grievous wounds over many years, even
decades, the accused's pointing finger of blame is enough to
make believers of judges and juries. (P. 20)" Many judges of
court cases would be quite surprised at hearing that they had
convicted perpetrators solely at "the word of an accuser".
22. In negative language that has become emblematic of the
FMSF, Loftus’ book , " the myth of repressed memory: false
memories and allegations of sexual abuse" repeatedly uses the
metaphor of "an earlier time when God-fearing citizens, gripped
by fear, superstition, and religious fervor, cried witch, and a
forest of stakes was pounded into the very heart of the
community"(p. 228). Quotes from Arthur Miller's book the
Crucible are prominently featured. However, the "hysteria"
implied by Loftus is not that of female victims of abuse who
have developed dissociative or other coping skills as a result
of the abuse, but that of female therapists who implant false
memories and the female patients who believe them.
23. In an unsuccessful lawsuit brought by Ralph Underwager and
Hollida Wakefield against psychologist Anna Salter in 1994 for
defamation stemming from a study which mentioned their research,
the court found that Underwager and Wakefield’s books, written
claiming that most accusations of childhood sexual abuse result
from memories implanted and created by therapists,
"have not been well received in the medical and scientific
press. A review of the first in the Journal of the American
Medical Association concludes that the authors took a one-sided
approach: "... When a given reference fails to support the
viewpoint, they simply mis-state the conclusion. When they
cannot use a quotation out of context from an article, they make
unsupported statements, some of which are palpably untrue and
others simply unprovable.""
The court further described Underwager's testimony
that "children are incapable of correctly remembering or
accurately describing sexual contacts," and indeed stated
that "Underwager is a hired gun who makes a living deceiving
judges about the state of medical knowledge and thus assisting
child molesters to evade punishment." Underwager himself
resigned from the FMSF in 1994 after being quoted in a Dutch
journal as saying that "Paedophiles can boldly and courageously
affirm what they choose... With boldness they can say "I believe
this is in fact part of gods will"... Paedophiles need to become
more positive and make the claim that paedophilia is an
acceptable expression of gods will for love and unity among
human beings."" In fact, both Underwager and Wakefield have
described pedophilia as a "positive lifestyle choice" (Bull &
Marten, 1994; Ryan 1993b).
24. One would think that those allied with a group of falsely
accused perpetrators would distance themselves from pedophilia.
However, several members other than Ralph Underwager and Hollida
Wakefield have argued that childhood sexual experiences with
adults may be harmless. However, asociations between childhood
sexual abuse and mental disorders in adulthood have been
repeatedly proven (Briere & Elliott, 1993; Elliott & Briere,
1992; Herman, Russell, & Trocki, 1986/1994).
25. Another FMSF Advisory Board member, James Randi, was
involved in a scandal in which (according to court records):
"The scientist's lawyers sought to discredit Mr. Randi by
playing taped conversations of teen-age boys who called the
magician's home allegedly for sex."
[ Byrd v Randi (Civil Action No. MJG-89-636 in the United
States District for the Court for the District of Maryland.]
Transcripts of the tape are also part of the court record in
Geller v Randi, (Civil Action No 91-1014-SSH in the United
States District Court for the District of Columbia. The
transcripts are contained in Exhibit 40 to Exhibit U].
26. Dr. Bill Thompson, Advisory Board Member of the British
FMS, lecturer in Forensic Psychology at Reading University
" has been extensively quoted in the media as a sceptic
about the existence of satanic abuse. He is the author of
SADOMASOCHISM, in which he puts forward the theory that
sadomasochism is neither violent nor dangerous. Written about
the Spanner case in which fifteen defendants were charged
with "inflicting actual bodily harm" on each other, Thompson's
book asks whether "hitting a penis with a ruler, dripping 'hot
wax' on to a penis, strapping someone with a cat-o'nine tails,
caning the buttocks" really are harmful activities. One of the
accused was under 21....Thompson claims that "various moral
groups have attempted to justify restricting the public's access
to sexually orientated material by promoting a child pornography
panic.".... He took exception to Lord Templeman's restating in
the Spanner case that it was important to " provide safeguards
against exploitation and corruption of others, particularly
those who are especially vulnerable because they are young, weak
in body or mind, inexperienced, or in a state of special
physical, official or economic dependence."
(http://www.carleton.ca/~whovdest/aaa8.html#section2)
27. There is considerable evidence supporting the recovery of
traumatic memories. Contrary to the statements of the FMSF,
there is empirical evidence regarding corroboration of formerly
repressed memories, including that from other family members,
medical or other physical evidence, and confessions of
perpetrators. Ross Cheit, for example, has compiled a list of 50
cases of corroborated recovered memory. (See Ross Cheit.) In
fact, research evidence shows that it is not unusual for victims
of childhood sexual abuse to forget the abuse either entirely or
for a period of time after the abuse.
28. Withdrawing stories of abuse is a normal part of the
disclosure process and in 90 per cent of cases is followed at a
later date by redisclosure. One study found that 27 per cent of
children recanted, and 5 per cent recanted twice. The study says
that lawyers, judges, parents and therapists must be helped to
understand that recantation does not represent an end in itself
and should not be equated with false allegation. Another study
noted the propensity for abuse survivors to re-repress their
memories after their retrieval. It is a mechanism which protects
them from the full emotional impact of the loss of protection in
their childhood. "If I don't remember it, then it didn't
happen". Recantation also occurs if abused children or adults
are faced with the family's denial and blame for the dissolution
of the family. (GONZALEZ)
29. FMSF supporters often claim that it’s impossible to forget
abuse. As proof, such studies as the numerous ones by Loftus are
often quoted. These studies all pertain to non-traumatic
memories. It is not at all clear whether the results of research
on non-traumatic memories are in any way generalizable to the
complex mechanisms involved in experiencing, dealing with, and
remembering abuse or other traumatic experiences.
30. The FMSF also frequently attacks "repression", stating that
either it does not exist, or that it does not result in the
forgetting and later remembering of experiences of extreme
trauma. However, there are other, well-studied mechanisms which
are involved in the processing and storing of trauma
experiences. For recovered memories to exist, belief in
repression is not necessary.
For example, women with known histories of abuse have been
studied to determine if they had ever had periods in which the
abuse had been forgotten. The abstract of Linda M. Williams’
1995 study, Recovered memories of abuse in women with documented
child sexual victimization histories. (Journal of Traumatic
Stress, 8,649 — 673, 1995) states:
The study provides evidence that some adults who claimed to
have recovered memories of sexual abuse recall actual events
that occurred in childhood. 129 women with documented histories
of sexual victimization in childhood were interviewed and asked
about abuse history. 17 years following the initial report of
the abuse, 80 of the women recalled the victimization. One in 10
women (16 percent of those who recalled the abuse) reported that
at some time in the past they had forgotten about the abuse.
Those with a prior period of forgetting -- the women
with "recovered memories" -- were younger at the time of abuse
and were less likely to have received support from their mothers
than the women who reported that they had always remembered
their victimization. The women who had recovered memories and
those who had always remembered had the same number of
discrepancies when their account of the abuse were compared to
the reports from the early 1970s.
None of the women in this study who had forgotten the abuse
were in therapy at the time they began to remember again, and
women's memories, when they returned, were consistent with the
actual abuse.
31. Charles L. Whitfield, M.D. performed a review of 36 studies
on over 6,000 children and adults who were abused as children.
His results showed that between 16 and 78% of subjects in these
studies experienced partial to total amnesia for their abuse for
some substantial amount of time. Most of the subjects had been
sexually abused as children. Eight of these studies involved
only subjects with fully corroborated abuse histories, four had
to a corroboration rate of 60 to 80 percent, and four had
corroboration among half of the subjects. All groups were
similar in occurrence of traumatic amnesia.
32. Elizabeth Loftus herself has published studies showing
evidence of recovered memory. The 4 January 1996 issue of
Accuracy About Abuse notes:
Elizabeth Loftus, high profile FMSF advocate, published a
paper with colleagues on Remembering and Repressing in 1994. In
a study of 105 women outpatients in a substance abuse clinic 54
% reported a history of childhood sexual abuse. 81% remembered
all or part of the abuse. 19% reported they forgot the abuse for
a period of time and later the memory returned. Women who
remembered the abuse their whole lives reported a clearer
memory, with a more detailed picture. Women who remembered the
abuse their whole lives did not differ from others in terms of
the violence of the abuse or whether the violence was
incestuous. [Psychology of Women Quarterly, 18 (1994) 67 -84.]
Loftus has also discussed "motivated forgetting", and has
presented the documented study of a college professor who became
unable to remember a series of traumas, but after some time was
able to recover those memories. Loftus remarked "after such an
enormously stressful experience, many individuals wish to
forget... And often their wish is granted." (Loftus, 1980/1988,
p. 73) In 1976, Loftus wrote:
Memories that may cause us great unhappiness if they were
brought to mind often appear to be forgotten. However are they
really lost from memory or are they simply temporarily repressed
as originally suggested by Freud (1922)? Repression is the
phenomenon that prevents someone from remembering an event that
can cause him pain and suffering. One way that we know that
these memories are repressed and not completely lost is that the
methods of free association and hypnosis and other special
techniques used by psychotherapist can be used to bring
repressed material to mind and can help a person remember things
that he has failed to remember earlier. (Loftus and Loftus,
1976, p. 82).
33. While some memories of abuse may in fact be false, there is
no evidence to prove the existence of a "false memory syndrome"
epidemic. Recognition of this is important, as groups such as
the FMSF, through publicity and lawsuits, have made some
therapists unwilling to treat both adult and child victims of
sexual abuse. Caution is necessary, but caution based on good
practice rather than misinformation.
Copyright © 1999 Juliette Cutler Page
All rights reserved by authors
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attention with horrific tales of false allegations of abuse
ruining families and innocent individual’s lives, while children
and adults are suffering indescribable torments.
It is our obligation as unbiased investigators to uncover the
meaning behind allegations of cult and ritual abuse and to
prevent continued abuses.
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Son_of_Chive_Mynde
>Son_of_Chive_Mynde
><ooochiveooomy...@my-deja.com.invalid> spake thusly
on
>or about Mon, 19 Jun 2000 03:06:55
>
>|> It is our obligation as unbiased investigators to uncover the
>|> meaning behind allegations of cult and ritual abuse and to
>|> prevent continued abuses.
>|>
>|>
>
being
>abused and who are these cults and ritualists you alude to?
Good question! Honestly, I don't know who the cults and
ritualists are. But I am familiar with the memories recalled by
the victims and that is all I have to go on at this time.
As for who is doing the abusing, they are people from all parts
of society. Atheists and religious people, rich and poor, they
come from all walks of life.
Bran Everseeking
<ooochiveooomy...@my-deja.com.invalid> spake thusly on
or about Mon, 19 Jun 2000 03:06:55
|> It is our obligation as unbiased investigators to uncover the
|> meaning behind allegations of cult and ritual abuse and to
|> prevent continued abuses.
|>
|>
hrmm what the hell does this mean? who is abusing? who is being
Peter L. Kantor
repeatedly long posts about False Memory Syndrome. Sign, evn tried to
actually start a real dialog with him, but he only responds to things he can
use to justify reposting long diatribes about FMS. He has the rare honor of
being the first person this year added to my kill-file.
Bran Everseeking <bran.eve...@sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:qfOMuGrZTFdc-pn2-gcnIsh7kII1c@localhost...
> Son_of_Chive_Mynde
> <ooochiveooomy...@my-deja.com.invalid> spake thusly on
> or about Mon, 19 Jun 2000 03:06:55
>
> |> It is our obligation as unbiased investigators to uncover the
> |> meaning behind allegations of cult and ritual abuse and to
> |> prevent continued abuses.
> |>
> |>
>
Bran Everseeking
<ooochiveooomy...@my-deja.com.invalid> spake thusly on
|> As for who is doing the abusing, they are people from all parts
|> of society. Atheists and religious people, rich and poor, they
|> come from all walks of life.
|>
|>
thanks for clarifying,
It sounded to me like you went 180 degrees from the denunciation
of the promoters of false memory as a means to escape from the
consequenses of abuse to both denying RA and posibly suggesting
that yer basic run of the mill pagan folk were doing it...
being in canada we have both the residential schools and Mt
Cashell as proof that institutionalized abuse can and does take
place.
be well
Bran Everseeking
19 Jun 2000 19:02:56
|> It means he spamming all the alt.(sounds vaguely occultish) groups with
|> repeatedly long posts about False Memory Syndrome. Sign, evn tried to
|> actually start a real dialog with him, but he only responds to things he can
|> use to justify reposting long diatribes about FMS. He has the rare honor of
|> being the first person this year added to my kill-file.
|>
hrmm I guess i do not subscribe to enough of them even though I
mostly figure I have three too many. having watched false
memory people go out to destroy emotionally fragile people i
suppose I think its a good message to get out. I am not of
either camp but I do not doubt that the cruelty displayed does
lend a bias.
enough cash and any lie becomes truth
Tetraplan
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Jani
Son_of_Chive_Mynde <ooochiveooomy...@my-deja.com.invalid> wrote
in message news:036f0080...@usw-ex0102-016.remarq.com...
> bran.eve...@sk.sympatico.ca (Bran Everseeking) wrote:
> >hrmm what the hell does this mean? who is abusing? who is
> being
> >abused and who are these cults and ritualists you alude to?
>
> Good question! Honestly, I don't know who the cults and
> ritualists are. But I am familiar with the memories recalled by
> the victims and that is all I have to go on at this time.
>
> As for who is doing the abusing, they are people from all parts
> of society. Atheists and religious people, rich and poor, they
> come from all walks of life.
May I ask, how is your reference to the Spanner case relevant? AFAIK, false
memory syndrome was not mentioned in any of the court submissions. Is it a
tenuous link, via paedophilia, based on the fact that one of the defendants
was under 21 years of age?
Jani
Jani
Jani <ja...@ossar.freeuk.com> wrote in message
news:OyO35.170$9E5....@nnrp3.clara.net...
> May I ask, how is your reference to the Spanner case relevant? AFAIK,
false
> memory syndrome was not mentioned in any of the court submissions. Is it a
> tenuous link, via paedophilia, based on the fact that one of the
defendants
> was under 21 years of age?
Don't seem to have a reply to this - Hello, Son of Chive! Do you not realise
that posting and then running away makes your original post look like a lot
of unsubstantiated rubbish? I'll try again, and make it simpler this time
SPANNER (got that?) FALSE MEMORY SYNDROME (got that, too?) OK here's the
biggie - NO CONNECTION.
Eagerly awaiting your response.
Jani
(bored with being polite)
Kristin
18 I was regularly abused by my step-father. It has colored the way that I
interact with everyone, not just men, but women, children and even myself.
I also did not realize what he did was abusive until I was 21. It took a
counselor to put the name to it, incest, and I became very upset. It did
not change what happened, or make what happened any less true, real or hurt
me any less because she called it what it was... It actually ultimately
helped me to begin dealing with it...
Labeling the crime does not make the crime false, it only brings it into the
light...
"Son_of_Chive_Mynde" <ooochiveooomy...@my-deja.com.invalid> wrote
in message news:054f4354...@usw-ex0102-016.remarq.com...
> Stress, 8,649 - 673, 1995) states:
Son_of_Chive_Mynde
scientific organization that some members of alt.pagan support,
would claim that your memories of incest were "implanted" by
your therapist.
You and I know that it is very likely that the events you recall
as incest most likely occurred and are ACTUAL events.
However, there are a group of pedophiles who encourage adults to
have sex with children.
They have formed an organization called the "False Memory
Syndrome Foundation" beacuse their own children have "recalled"
incest and sexual abuse by the board members of the FMSF.
Then, to make matters worse, these monsters have accused the
VICTIMS of this abuse, their own children, of having memories of
such abuse IMPLANTED by the therapist!
Talk about denial! The members of the FMSF are in complete
denial about their acts of sexual abuse! They have managed to
connive and distort the availibe medical evidence so that sexual
abusers, pedophiles, and predators evade justice and punishment.
Help put a stop to this gibberish! Get the word out on the FMSF!
False Memory Syndrome does not exist. It is not listed in the
DSM-IV.
It is time for these monsters to take responsibility for their
actions and face the punishment they so richly deserve.
Justice delayed is justice denied.