Across The Menai
Reverend Stapleton S Love
entering the dark satanic homeland of the Celts that we now know as Cymru
(Wales) Ughhhhhhh.....!
The Legionaries met little resistance as they made their way further into
the heartland of the savage welsh beasts! - these were, after all, hardened
fighters, mercenaries and professional soldiers alike, who had spent years
away from the comfort of Rome, etching civilisation on the map of the
barbarians with the edge of their swords.
The wild, ragged welsh tribesmen were no match for the courage and
discipline of the Legions!. Not all the Druidic Gorsedds combined could
halt the progress of the Imperial Eagle!.
Until, that is, the Romans came to the shores of the Menai Straight - that
narrow strip of water which separates the isle of Anglesey (known as
'Mona' - the dark island) from the Welsh mainland.
Mona was held to be sacred amongst the Druids - covered in dense forest, it
was the scene of the highest and most important ceremonies of that accursed
'religion' and was the haunt of many of its priestesses - truly dreadful
hags, with flowing robes, wild unkempt hair and fingernails grown into
talons!. (see Ann Kamlett for further details!).
Incensed by the progress of the Roman Army, and mindful of the trail of
slaughtered Druids left in its wake, these fearful ogresses were determined
to save this, the 'holiest' of their shrines!.
According to the Roman historian, Tacitus, the Hags ran shrieking from the
forest when the first wave of Legionaries waded ashore!. The sight of these
Demon possessed women struck fear into the hearts of the Romans (who, as I
have mentioned, had fought their way across Europe and were the worlds most
disciplined army bar none!).
Hissing, spitting and scratching, the crones advanced upon the Romans - who
began to withdraw to their boats in disarray!. It is recorded that the
Centurions had to whip their men forward - such was the fear that these
Welsh creatures inspired. (many might say, so what has changed!).
However, once the Romans had overcome their natural abhorrence of the welsh
hags they fell to the task of slaughtering these verminous, pernicious,
Celtic aberrations with enthusiasm!.
They waded ankle deep in the blood of the Druids - whose 'gods' appeared
singularly unable to aid them! - and cut down the sacred groves within which
the Celts had summoned their Demons!.
And a jolly good thing too - if you ask me!.
Even today, Anglesey possesses a dark, faintly sinister, atmosphere - as if
the earth itself still remembers those moonlit nights so long ago when the
priestesses communed with Evil and the Groves were filled with the cries of
those chosen for blood sacrifice!.
The religious revivals of the late Nineteenth/early Twentieth Century did
much to temper the natural pre-disposition of the Celt to worship Darkness.
Every Chapel raised was a vital link in the chain forged to keep the
naturally evil Welsh soul in check!.
However, now that secularism has, all but, destroyed the restraining
influence of Christian Fundamentalism, the Welsh animals are returning to
the paganism and bestial savagery that is both their wont - and, also, the
hallmark of the Celtic Peoples!
Rogue
delighted in the sport of gladiators and men being torn apart by lions, who
slaughtered innocents to spread their arrogance... who at their heyday and most
brillant were themselves pagans, until they took the single god and became men
of dishonor.
Fuck you and the roman horse you rode in on, rev.
>Subject: Across The Menai
>From: "Reverend Stapleton S Love" Reve...@stapletonslove.junglelink.co.uk
>Date: Wed, 29 September 1999 01:17 PM EDT
>Message-id: <7sthg4$stg$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>
Rogue
...may your cereal stay crunchy....
...do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy & taste good
with ketchup....
...good? bad? ::shrug:: I'm the guy with the gun.....
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Rogue wrote in message <19990929135937...@ng-cd1.aol.com>...
>Yes, the civilizied Romans, who kept women as second class citizens, who
>delighted in the sport of gladiators and men being torn apart by lions, who
>slaughtered innocents to spread their arrogance... who at their heyday and
most
>brillant were themselves pagans, until they took the single god and became
men
>of dishonor.
>
>Fuck you and the roman horse you rode in on, rev.
It is perfectly clear (to anyone not afflicted by Celtic prejudice and
blindness) why the Romans were permitted by God to conquer the known world!.
They laid the necessary foundations for the Gospel that was to come. Their
laws and justice (much of which is STILL enshrined in British/U.S. Law,
today!!) together with their communications and social order were essential
prerequisites for the establishment of Christianity.
Thus, it was necessary for the worst excess of the Celts to be curbed - for
the groves to be hewn down and the diabolical priestesses slaughtered.
I am firmly of the belief that only a similarly robust destruction of all
things connected with the occult - and those persons who embrace them!, will
rescue our country from disaster!.
Paganism is the embodiment of Darkness, Hate, Superstition, Malice, Cruelty
and Evil!.
As Jesus remarked, "Men prefer darkness to light because there deeds are
evil!" - that is why the Gospel enrages you!, that is why any mention of the
Cross provokes a torrent of blasphemy from you!, that is why you hate (and
fear!) God!.
"Suffer not a Witch to live".
Sean MacUisdin
> However, now that secularism has, all but, destroyed the restraining
> influence of Christian Fundamentalism, the Welsh animals are returning to
> the paganism and bestial savagery that is both their wont - and, also, the
> hallmark of the Celtic Peoples!
This is supposed to be insulting??????? Wow, thanks for the compliment,
Punkah boy. Bestial savagery, hmmmmmmmm, somehow fitting, I think.
Air muir 's air tir,
Sean of Clan Uisdin
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a' chonnspaid ud suas;
'n am tharraig gu sanntach
nan lann as an truaill
mholainn do luchd gamhlais
'san am ud bhith uaibh;
bidh ceum cridheil air reing trithear -
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Sean MacUisdin
> It is perfectly clear (to anyone not afflicted by Celtic prejudice and
> blindness) why the Romans were permitted by God to conquer the known world!.
>
> They laid the necessary foundations for the Gospel that was to come. Their
> laws and justice (much of which is STILL enshrined in British/U.S. Law,
> today!!) together with their communications and social order were essential
> prerequisites for the establishment of Christianity.
>
> Thus, it was necessary for the worst excess of the Celts to be curbed - for
> the groves to be hewn down and the diabolical priestesses slaughtered.
>
> I am firmly of the belief that only a similarly robust destruction of all
> things connected with the occult - and those persons who embrace them!, will
> rescue our country from disaster!.
>
> Paganism is the embodiment of Darkness, Hate, Superstition, Malice, Cruelty
> and Evil!.
Shabash!!!!!
LOL - is this the worst you can do, Punkah boy? Standard and predictable
Christianisms from a pseudo-Christian troll?
> As Jesus remarked, "Men prefer darkness to light because there deeds are
> evil!" - that is why the Gospel enrages you!, that is why any mention of the
> Cross provokes a torrent of blasphemy from you!, that is why you hate (and
> fear!) God!.
No. I fear nothing that doesn't exist.
> "Suffer not a Witch to live".
Aye, nor a pinhead. Keep a weather eye out for the t-arm breac dearg,
Punkah boy.
Mickey
Reverend Stapleton S Love wrote in message
<7sthg4$stg$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>...
Rogue
sinful thoughts about the dog or the kid who delivers the paper you remember to
blame only the pagans for putting the evilness in your head.
I dont think you believe half of what you preach - i think you are a very
lonely man, proabbly more pagan than not, who is somehow feeling a
justification for his existance by the slander of people you dont have the
courage to face in real life.
You are a coward and you know it, and you hide behind passages of a book and a
computer screen. If you are reverend go outside your home to preach, unless you
are looking for penance from us with the work you do here.
Coward. Afraid of not being a member of anything, so you choose to destroy all
the clubs to which you do not belong.
Coward. Who sits upon his self appointed throne and claimes to do the work of a
god who gave him the body he never uses, and the mind which he warps with his
delight in causing chaos to get attention.
Are you afriad your mother never loved you? Why do you fear us so?
These may be the only kind words you get from me. Heed them and be well.
Perhaps you need to watch Star Wars again. I know you have the tape.
PS- Yoda was a pagan.
>Subject: Re: Across The Menai
>From: "Reverend Stapleton S Love" Reve...@stapletonslove.junglelink.co.uk
>Date: Wed, 29 September 1999 02:19 PM EDT
>Message-id: <7stl43$3j7$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>
>
>
>Rogue wrote in message <19990929135937...@ng-cd1.aol.com>...
>>Yes, the civilizied Romans, who kept women as second class citizens, who
>>delighted in the sport of gladiators and men being torn apart by lions, who
>>slaughtered innocents to spread their arrogance... who at their heyday and
>most
>>brillant were themselves pagans, until they took the single god and became
>men
>>of dishonor.
>>
>>Fuck you and the roman horse you rode in on, rev.
>
>
>It is perfectly clear (to anyone not afflicted by Celtic prejudice and
>blindness) why the Romans were permitted by God to conquer the known world!.
>
>They laid the necessary foundations for the Gospel that was to come. Their
>laws and justice (much of which is STILL enshrined in British/U.S. Law,
>today!!) together with their communications and social order were essential
>prerequisites for the establishment of Christianity.
>
>Thus, it was necessary for the worst excess of the Celts to be curbed - for
>the groves to be hewn down and the diabolical priestesses slaughtered.
>
>I am firmly of the belief that only a similarly robust destruction of all
>things connected with the occult - and those persons who embrace them!, will
>rescue our country from disaster!.
>
>Paganism is the embodiment of Darkness, Hate, Superstition, Malice, Cruelty
>and Evil!.
>
>As Jesus remarked, "Men prefer darkness to light because there deeds are
>evil!" - that is why the Gospel enrages you!, that is why any mention of the
>Cross provokes a torrent of blasphemy from you!, that is why you hate (and
>fear!) God!.
>
>"Suffer not a Witch to live".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Rogue wrote in message <19990929153529...@ng-cd1.aol.com>...
>yes you come to preach and the late at night when you have your lustful and
>sinful thoughts about the dog or the kid who delivers the paper you
remember to
>blame only the pagans for putting the evilness in your head.
I certainly DO believe that 'pagans' ARE responsible for much of the Evil
that has engulfed Britain & the USA!.
If, as the bible teaches, a Righteous man can be the cause of blessing for a
Nation - why should not the reverse be true?!.
Why should not the divinations and evil dabbling with the occult, that you
and your ilk embrace, bring moral decay and spiritual corruption?.
I believe that they do!!.
>I dont think you believe half of what you preach - i think you are a very
>lonely man, proabbly more pagan than not, who is somehow feeling a
>justification for his existance by the slander of people you dont have the
>courage to face in real life.
Ahhh - you are wrong, probably far more so than you realise!. I have
encountered (and publicly) condemned cultists, pagans and other assorted
vermin!.
>You are a coward and you know it, and you hide behind passages of a book
'A Book'? - NO! - THE Book!, the Word of the Living God!.
and a
>computer screen. If you are reverend go outside your home to preach, unless
you
>are looking for penance from us with the work you do here.
Se Above.
>Coward. Afraid of not being a member of anything, so you choose to destroy
all
>the clubs to which you do not belong.
>
>Coward. Who sits upon his self appointed throne and claimes to do the work
of a
>god who gave him the body he never uses, and the mind which he warps with
his
>delight in causing chaos to get attention.
Chaos? - it is the Demons who drive you that delight in 'chaos'! - I seek
Truth!.
>Are you afriad your mother never loved you? Why do you fear us so?
Bwwwhhhaaaa - I tremble at the mention of your name!
>These may be the only kind words you get from me. Heed them and be well
I can promise you lots more words from me!.
>Perhaps you need to watch Star Wars again. I know you have the tape
Well, actually, no - but I thought the first series was excellent!.
>PS- Yoda was a pagan.
I'm praying for you!.
Rogue
Go masterbate in your wheaties, my demented one.
>ubject: Re: Across The Menai
>From: "Reverend Stapleton S Love" Reve...@stapletonslove.junglelink.co.uk
>Date: Wed, 29 September 1999 04:18 PM EDT
>Message-id: <7sts3e$66k$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Sean MacUisdin wrote in message <37F25B00...@home.com>...
>Reverend Stapleton S Love wrote:
>
>> However, now that secularism has, all but, destroyed the restraining
>> influence of Christian Fundamentalism, the Welsh animals are returning to
>> the paganism and bestial savagery that is both their wont - and, also,
the
>> hallmark of the Celtic Peoples!
>
>Punkah boy. Bestial savagery, hmmmmmmmm, somehow fitting, I think.
Insult? - certainly not!. Merely a statement of fact. It is interesting to
note that the 'Celtic' peoples have required much sterner doses of
Christianity (Knox, Calvin etc etc) than Anglo Saxons.
This is due to their propensity to Evil - and, when the restraints of
Christianity are removed, they will return to their old ways as inexorably
as a dog to vomit!.
It's just the way things are.
>Air muir 's air tir,
>
>Sean of Clan Uisdin
>-------------------
>If anyone is looking for Sean of Clan Uisdin, he can be found in the
>bathtub mulling over his collection of 'boy-pics'
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Rogue wrote in message <19990929162007...@ng-fc1.aol.com>...
>i dont work evil my friend. Because we dont think the way you do we are
evil?
>
>Go masterbate in your wheaties, my demented one.
You are of your Father, the Devil! -(and you can't spell, either!)
Shadow
>
> I certainly DO believe that 'pagans' ARE responsible for much of the Evil
> that has engulfed Britain & the USA!.
>
> If, as the bible teaches, a Righteous man can be the cause of blessing for a
> Nation - why should not the reverse be true?!.
>
> Why should not the divinations and evil dabbling with the occult, that you
> and your ilk embrace, bring moral decay and spiritual corruption?.
>
> I believe that they do!!.
Interesting choice of words.
Malleus Maleficarum and it's lesser known counter part Flagellum
Maleficorium, The Inquisition, The Crusades, The Catholic church, The
puritans, Hypatia is a interesting point when making moral judgments
of a religious group as well.... The list is long, moral decay and
corruption is like a a prerequisite to be a Christian.
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He does not believe that does not live in accordance with his belief.
Sean MacUisdin
(snip)
> I'm praying for you!.
Hate the sin but love the sinner. Do you love me, Punkah Boy?
Air muir 's air tir,
Sean of Clan Uisdin
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If anyone is looking for Sean of Clan Uisdin, he can be found in the
BMW
Reverend Stapleton S Love <Reve...@stapletonslove.junglelink.co.uk> wrote
in message news:7stsef$6h1$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Insult? - certainly not!. Merely a statement of fact. It is interesting
to
> note that the 'Celtic' peoples have required much sterner doses of
> Christianity (Knox, Calvin etc etc) than Anglo Saxons.
Well I suggest you go look up Heathenism and Odinism if you want to know
what the Anglo-Saxons are up to these days.
>
> This is due to their propensity to Evil - and, when the restraints of
> Christianity are removed, they will return to their old ways as inexorably
> as a dog to vomit!.
Yup no more misogynist ravings of peadophile priests to listen too, just the
song of the land.
Does it occur to you that you are the vomit we might return to and devour
> It's just the way things are.
Goddess Bless your little cotton socks you're offering yourself up as a
sacrifice.
--
BMW
The Goddess loves everyone, but some
strange people love her
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Shadow wrote in message <37F28CCB...@aug.com>...
>Reverend Stapleton S Love wrote:
>
>>
>> that has engulfed Britain & the USA!.
>>
>> If, as the bible teaches, a Righteous man can be the cause of blessing
for a
>> Nation - why should not the reverse be true?!.
>>
>> Why should not the divinations and evil dabbling with the occult, that
you
>> and your ilk embrace, bring moral decay and spiritual corruption?.
>>
>> I believe that they do!!.
>
>Interesting choice of words.
>
>Malleus Maleficarum and it's lesser known counter part Flagellum
>Maleficorium, The Inquisition, The Crusades, The Catholic church, The
>puritans, Hypatia is a interesting point when making moral judgments
>of a religious group as well.... The list is long, moral decay and
>corruption is like a a prerequisite to be a Christian.
I note that you chose to prefix 'Puritan' with a lower case letter!.
In my opinion this was a subliminal attempt to denigrate the very people
whom you fear the most!.
There is no danger to you from the Roman Harlot! - drunk with the blood of
the Saints, she continues her worldly fornication's and will, at length,
enter into Damnation!.
The 'Puritans', however, are a very different matter!.
They had (and have) got your foulness directly in their sights!.
They know you for what you are! - and know how to deal with you!.
The flames of Salem still cast a cleansing light upon this diseased, sin
sick world!.
No wonder you hate and fear them!. Their time WILL come again!.
Sean MacUisdin
> The 'Puritans', however, are a very different matter!.
Oh yes, it's always about the puritans.
> They had (and have) got your foulness directly in their sights!.
> They know you for what you are! - and know how to deal with you!.
Do they indeed?
> The flames of Salem still cast a cleansing light upon this diseased, sin
> sick world!.
Oh please please please read your history before embarrassing yourself.
The witches were for the most part hung. Good puritans on either end of
the rope.
> No wonder you hate and fear them!. Their time WILL come again!.
Yes, their time is coming.
"There is no law in Pennsylvania against riding on broomsticks."
William Penn
Sean MacUisdin
>
> >Reverend Stapleton S Love wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I'm praying for you!.
> >
> >Hate the sin but love the sinner. Do you love me, Punkah Boy?
>
> sinner!.
See, now I knew you weren't a Christian, Punkah boy.
Just a sad wittle man. Again, I'm glad for our time together. Less time
to wail on the kids, eh?
Shadow
>
> I note that you chose to prefix 'Puritan' with a lower case letter!.
>
> In my opinion this was a subliminal attempt to denigrate the very people
> whom you fear the most!.
>
Actually it is a case of me being a bad speller and having a bad spell
checker, note.. the Church was lower case as well. It happens. It is
however interesting that you are taking to reading between the lines
seeking something that isn't there.
> There is no danger to you from the Roman Harlot! - drunk with the blood of
I know that. Shit the pope practically in one speech totally
dismantaled the Official Standardized Version of hell. Must be that
direct phone line to god.
> the Saints, she continues her worldly fornication's and will, at length,
> enter into Damnation!.
>
> The 'Puritans', however, are a very different matter!.
>
> They had (and have) got your foulness directly in their sights!.
>
They should heck I advertise enough.
> They know you for what you are! - and know how to deal with you!.
>
I am that I am. Depending on the game, five card stud? Black Jack?
> The flames of Salem still cast a cleansing light upon this diseased, sin
> sick world!.
Psssssst.... most accused witches were hung.
It is interesting to note, that the people that died as a result of the
salem trials, and most of the other christian endevours were in fact
Christians for the most part. Ah the smell of greed sweeps throguh
the air, corrupt religious leaders seeking more corruption.
<insert sarcasim> Hail Swaggart, Hail Jim Baker, Hold Oral Roberts high
so that all might see what christians are like. Fine fine examples of
good christians.
Praise the lord and pass the offering plate, I need a cheese
burger.</insert sarcasim>
>
> No wonder you hate and fear them!.
hehehehe I don't hate them silly billy, They are great play toys. I
love to get one or a group all hot and red in the face from anger. They
look like they could litterally explode.
>Their time WILL come again!.
Hot diggity can I help speed it up?
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The best way to avoid responsibilities is to say, "I have
responsibilities".(Richard Bach)
Naiad
>
> The flames of Salem still cast a cleansing light upon this diseased, sin
> sick world!.
>>>>>
challenged and a host of others, the same ones Christ came for .
>
>
Vievenege
>
> Yes, the civilizied Romans, who kept women as second class citizens, who
> delighted in the sport of gladiators and men being torn apart by lions, who
> slaughtered innocents to spread their arrogance... who at their heyday and most
> brillant were themselves pagans, until they took the single god and became men
> of dishonor.
<snip>
When I read the original message, I had neglected to look at the
sender's name. Until the last few paragraphs, I actually thought it was
a sarcastic attack on pre-Christian Romans! Funny.
In any case, it contains interesting information. I have been interested
in looking up Tacitus for a short while, along with other Roman
historians. I wonder who is this Ann Kamlett, though - I can not find
any other reference to her.
-- Vievenege
Rhyanon
is only interested in getting replies, not the caliber of the individual
reply. But I enjoyed reading yours.
~Suz.~
nagathrall <nagat...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:7subsq$4i$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <7stslc$6nt$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> "Reverend Stapleton S Love"
> <Reve...@stapletonslove.junglelink.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Rogue wrote in message <19990929162007.04910.00000103@ng-
> fc1.aol.com>...
> > >i dont work evil my friend. Because we dont think the way you do we
> are
> > evil?
> > >
> > >Go masterbate in your wheaties, my demented one.
> >
> > You are of your Father, the Devil! -(and you can't spell, either!)
> >
> >Spelling aside Rev. Satan is a Christian god and only you need fear
> him. As a pagan I accept Yahwey as a god but find it sad that so many
> are still in thrall to the old demiurge. After Lilith walked out on
> him and Mother Eve stole away his slave Adam and turned him into a
> human being the poor I AM that I AM has been running scared that some
> day we might find the Tree of Eternal Life and there will be hell to
> pay(so to speak). And make no mistake Rev. we will find it and when we
> do I will be there to kick your silly god off his throne and deal with
> you personaly. Blessings, John
>
> --
>
> Wisdom requires a surrender, verging on the mystical, of
> a person to the glory of existence.
> Gerhard Von Rad
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
nagathrall
Reverend Stapleton S Love
>
>
>> I'm praying for you!.
>
>Hate the sin but love the sinner. Do you love me, Punkah Boy?
Nope. I believe in the Biblical premise of destroying the sin by Burning the
sinner!.
Otherwise the entire UK will end up like Glasgow on a Saturday night!
(aghhhhhhh).
Beam me up, Scottie!.
nagathrall
"Rhyanon" <rhy...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Oooooo, good one, nagathrall. Excellent post. Too bad this is a
troll, and
> is only interested in getting replies, not the caliber of the
individual
> reply. But I enjoyed reading yours.
> ~Suz.~
dares he can take me on I would enjoy the ride. Blessings, John
FACSTAFF
>
>
> They had (and have) got your foulness directly in their sights!.
>
>
> sick world!.
>
The ones who are in most danger, of course, should you be right,
are maidens and crones -- feared by all men. As you of all
people should know.
ak
FACSTAFF
>
>
Interestingly, though, it was a Christain Empire when it fell!
ak
FACSTAFF
>
> note that the 'Celtic' peoples have required much sterner doses of
> Christianity (Knox, Calvin etc etc) than Anglo Saxons.
No darling, the early Christains in what is now GB -- all men
BTW, as if you didn't know -- were determined to get rid of
Goddess worship at all costs.
Failing this, they brought in the virgin Mary as Queen of Heaven,
mother of God, though not a goddess, in her own right. Ah, the
logic of men.
ak
Reverend Stapleton S Love
nagathrall wrote in message <7suks9$6ao$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
Nagathrall,
If you require a SERIOUS philosophical debate, then I am happy to give you
one.
Although I have a penchant for Trolling, I do have perfectly serious beliefs
and am quite willing to share them with you.
For starters, we could explore the origins of the so-called 'femininity' of
the 'goddess'.
It doesn't require too much intelligence to appreciate that this blasphemy
(for Blasphemy is what it is!) is aimed fairly and squarely at the
Masculinity of the Godhead!.
I am aware that 'goddess' worship (in innumerable forms) has been practised
by virtually every culture since the dawn of time - indeed, the worship of
'Mary' (as endorsed by the R.C. Church) is merely another manifestation of
this phenomenon.
Why?
Because to deny the Masculinity of God is to strike at the very heart of
Christian belief!.
Consider,
I assume you are familiar with the Christian concept of 'Original Sin' -
which holds that all of us are born with residual sin - even before we take
our first breath!.
We are the inheritors of Adam's sin - and, thus, no matter how good a life
we might live, no matter what acts of charity we might perform, no matter
what self denial we might practice - we can NEVER be free of the sin that is
an intrinsic part of a nature.
With me so far?, Ok.
Now, the Bible teaches us that God abhors sin - and that sin MUST be
punished. (I am being deliberately simplistic here, for the sake of
brevity, so bear with me!).
The Bible also teaches us that we are very special to God! - that He loves
us all (even me!) and that He is unwilling for us to enter into the eternal
damnation which is reserved for the Devil (who was, formerly, an important
Angel of light) and the lesser Angels who followed him in his rebellion
against God
So, God had something of a problem.
The Law had to be upheld - yet HE loved us and certainly did not wish for
any of us to spend eternity in torment.
So, John Cp3 v. 16 (a verse I'm sure you know) says that "God so loved the
world that He gave His only begotten son in order that whosoever believeth
on Him should not perish but have everlasting life".
Note the use of the words "Only Begotten" - they are crucial to the whole
matter (but are best covered in another thread).
I am no believer in the 'Trinity' - it has absolutely no scriptural
foundation! - Jesus clearly taught that "I and my Father am one" - and not
just 'one' in purpose or intent!.
John (speaking about Jesus) said that 'All things were made by him - and
without Him was not anything made that was made". Thus, as "God created the
Heavens and the Earth", it is obvious that Jesus and God are one and the
same!.
Now, to the matter of the punishment for sin. As I have already stated, the
Law had to be fulfilled - and it is, truly, the Wonder of all wonders that
God was prepared to take on the form of man in order to live a sinless life
and then offer himself as a spotless sacrifice for the sins of you and I!.
Angels saw it - but could not understand it!. Who can possibly understand a
Love so deep and so selfless?!.
However, there was still the problem of original sin!. If Jesus had been
born of an earthly father, His sinless life would have been pointless
because He would still have had the stain of original sin passed to him at
conception!.
That is why Mary was caused to conceive without sexual intercourse. Because
Jesus was not conceived in the accepted sense, no original sin was passed to
Him - he broke the chain.
I appreciate that I am probably not explaining this terribly well, but
perhaps you can take my point about the essence of Gods masculinity.
Then after a sinless birth and a sinless life (and, in all other respects,
Jesus was completely human and was subject to exactly the same temptations
as we are!) He offered himself on the Cross as an atonement for our own
sins.
I can assure you that gathered unseen around the Cross was just about every
Demon and foul Spirit loose on earth!.
It was their moment of 'triumph'!.
It was not merely the nails nor the thorns that caused the pain - it was ALL
the suffering that had been and would be to come!.
It was the grief of a mother weeping for her lost child, it was the pain of
a man refusing to let go of his dead wife!, it was the terror in the
darkness of the Gas Chambers of Auschwitz, it was the sorrow of every act of
cruelty, every injustice, every rape, every murder..........
It was the pain of these things that broke His heart on the Cross. Pain
that was not his to bear - and which He willingly took upon himself for me
and for you.
So the took him down form the Cross and they buried him in a borrowed tomb.
But, He could not be bound by Death - for death had no claim on him!.
His Resurrection, not just His death, is the key to our chance of eternal
life. "Because I live, you may live also".
If we choose Him, that is.............
If you wish to worship the Spirits of darkness that mocked him while He was
hanging upon the Cross, that is your choice! - we do have such a choice, we
are not automatons!, we have been given a free will in such matters.
However, be assured that He will return again (possibly sooner than any of
us realise!) and that He will cast those whom you currently worship into the
lake of eternal fire - together with all those who follow them.
There will be a nuclear war involving the Jews (who, despite everything, are
STILL His chosen people!) and they will finally accept Christ as their
Messiah - even though Israel will be virtually wiped out. In the final hours
of this world they WILL acknowledge that HE, alone, is their Salvation and
their Deliverer!.
this is not hysteria, nor scare mongering, nor invention, nor a fairy tale!.
It is simple, unalterable fact!.
Here endeth the first lesson.
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Vievenege wrote in message <37F2A6...@concordia.com>...
I wonder who is this Ann Kamlett, though - I can not find
>any other reference to her.
She is one described by Tacitus as a 'Cronum Odiumous' - though,latterly,
she has acquired a more kindly disposition than in previous incarnations.
She haunts the alt.gossip.royalty newsgroup - a sort of female leprechaun
figure bringing them all good luck.
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Shadow wrote in message <37F29C96...@aug.com>...
Hail Swaggart, Hail Jim Baker, Hold Oral Roberts high
>so that all might see what christians are like.
You are, of course, perfectly right to hold these people in contempt!.
They seek Money, they are the sellers of Doves in the Temple! - and their
riches will drag them into the pit of Hell.
That, however, will not help you when you are personally judged!.
The sins of others cannot be used to mitigate your own.
Reverend Stapleton S Love
FACSTAFF <@law.columbia.edu> wrote in message
<37F36D6E...@law.columbia.edu>...
>Reverend Stapleton S Love wrote:
>>
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the known world!.
>
>
>Interestingly, though, it was a Christain Empire when it fell!
>ak
NO! - it was a Papal Empire! - the two are QUITE different!.
Rhyanon
the Buybull it's based on --- zero.
Reverend Stapleton S Love <Reve...@stapletonslove.junglelink.co.uk> wrote
in message news:7svr5o$d7k$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk...
Rhyanon
Reverend Stapleton S Love <Reve...@stapletonslove.junglelink.co.uk> wrote
in message news:7svrrs$dkr$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk...
Rogue
powerful and rightious people. (and yes i have no spell checker)
and while i dont doubt that jesus suffered in his heart for all the pain of the
world, he actually died by affixiation. Crucification kills by disabling the
resiratory system... holding your arms in that manner for as long as he did
would tire the diaphram and other muscles the system thereby stopping the
proces of breathing. So lets be a little realistic, shall we?
Pagans dont, for the most part, worship the foul spirits of the land. We, for
the most part, worship nature and the balance of life and generally tend to
side with goodness. So since we dont worship the things you do in the way you
do, automatically we are evil and are going to hell?
To quote Octavo from another NG... you need to think like a witch for a
second... instead of us going to hell... how about i say you are going to be
reincarnated as a pagan?
Your banter both annoys and scares me.
>Subject: Re: hey rev i wana talk
>From: "Reverend Stapleton S Love" Reve...@stapletonslove.junglelink.co.uk
>Date: Thu, 30 September 1999 10:14 AM EDT
>Message-id: <7svr5o$d7k$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>
Shadow
> this is not hysteria, nor scare mongering, nor invention, nor a fairy tale!.
> It is simple, unalterable fact!.
>
please by all means provide this unalterable fact.
Let us all see it so we may know it to be true.
Are you going to say it is so because it's in the bible? If that is
your facts you need more accurate facts.
I am going to go in to fantasy land here, and for this moment
acknowledge your god exists. With that a given for the sake of
argument, prove it is the "one true god".
It can not be done. It never has been done, and never will be done. In
the entire history of the christian or jewish religion it has never been
done, nor will it. Or are we going to their the I don't have to prove
it story line, perhaps the don't test god speech. Bah it's (the bible)
written by men, not a god, nor is it divinely inspired. An omnipotent
god that "loved" his children so much it didn't want them to spend an
eternity in damnation, would have been more precise, more clear, and
less contradicting.
Perhaps, in all it's omnipotence it would have not created a satan,
defiant humans, a laughable religion, and could have come up with a
better story line than, she was a virgin, honest she was.
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Argue for your limitations and sure enough..... They are your's.(Richard
Bach)
Rogue
peoples... made a saint to calm the masses as they took over their world like a
plaque.
Lets not also forget that the idea of the holy trinity came from the celts
witchcraft as well.
>Subject: Re: Across The Menai
>From: FACSTAFF @law.columbia.edu
>Date: Thu, 30 September 1999 10:05 AM EDT
>Message-id: <37F36E2C...@law.columbia.edu>
>
>Reverend Stapleton S Love wrote:
>>
Shadow
>
I hold all of christianity in contempt, it is a contemptuous religion
full of contemptuous people.
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Practical people would be more practical if they would take a little
more time for dreaming. (J.P. McEvoy)
Shadow
>
> Ah --- our troll is a Protestant...........
Where are the Irish catholics when you need them????
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Your friends will know you better in the first minute you met than your
acquaintances will in a thousand years.(Richard Bach)
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Rhyanon wrote in message <7svsqr$o6o$1...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>...
>Too bad your entire theory is a pile of dogshit with as much credibility as
>the Buybull it's based on --- zero.
You know, my dear, you really ARE an extremely disturbed woman! -
outstanding, even amongst this august company!..
Now, off with you into your corner and gnaw on a bone or two while the
learned Nagathrall and I exchange theological pleasantries, there's a good
Witch.
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Rogue wrote in message <19990930104516...@ng-cd1.aol.com>...
how about i say you are going to be
>reincarnated as a pagan?
I would answer from the Bible; "It is appointed unto man ONCE to die (No
Reincarnation!) and, after that, the Judgement"
>Your banter both annoys and scares me.
Well, that is a good thing!. Ignore the banter (that's just me) - but the
Scriptures DO have Power! - NOT my power, but the Power of the Living God!.
The fact that they disturb you shows that your heart may not be completely
hardned to the truth. Let me make a suggestion, just pray simply - something
like 'Lord, if you are real, if the Bible is true, please show me, open my
eyes to see You'
This is the internet! - no-one will know if you try it, no one here need
have cause to mock you, just ask Him - for the sake of your own soul.
"If you call upon Me - I WILL answer!"
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Rogue wrote in message <19990930104715...@ng-cd1.aol.com>...
>lets not forget Saint Brigit, taken from the goddess Brigid of the Irish
>peoples... made a saint to calm the masses as they took over their world
like a
>plaque.
All these 'saints' are an abomination! - there is NO 'Queen Of Heaven' -
there is NO other means of Salvation other than the Lord Jesus Christ!.
All the Roman Catholic doctrines of 'purgatory', 'papal infallibility,
'papal indulgence', transubstantiation etc etc etc are Satanic distortions
and travesties of the true simplicity of the Gospel - which is;
"Believe on The Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved".
No 'ifs', no 'buts' - no third party intercession!.
It's between you and God!.
Rogue
Do you really think you'll win here?
>Subject: Re: Across The Menai
>From: "Reverend Stapleton S Love" Reve...@stapletonslove.junglelink.co.uk
>Date: Thu, 30 September 1999 11:32 AM EDT
>Message-id: <7svvmd$2hr$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>
Rogue
Rogue
in my ears?
>Subject: Re: hey rev i wana talk
>From: "Reverend Stapleton S Love" Reve...@stapletonslove.junglelink.co.uk
>Date: Thu, 30 September 1999 11:23 AM EDT
>Message-id: <7svv6k$24j$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>
Rogue
I was once, so here I stand again.
>Subject: Re: Across The Menai
>From: Shadow t...@aug.com
>Date: Thu, 30 September 1999 10:55 AM EDT
>Message-id: <37F379C9...@aug.com>
Rogue
Rogue
Id say that was jesus telling me to practice magic.
Quoting scripture is useless rev. I can counter every passage against what I do
with one that says i can.
>All these 'saints' are an abomination! - there is NO 'Queen Of Heaven' -
>there is NO other means of Salvation other than the Lord Jesus Christ!.
>
>All the Roman Catholic doctrines of 'purgatory', 'papal infallibility,
>'papal indulgence', transubstantiation etc etc etc are Satanic distortions
>and travesties of the true simplicity of the Gospel - which is;
>
>"Believe on The Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved".
>
>No 'ifs', no 'buts' - no third party intercession!.
>
>It's between you and God!.
>
>
>
>
>>Lets not also forget that the idea of the holy trinity came from the celts
>>witchcraft as well.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Shadow
>
> By the way shadow, why? Do you want me to blow up his house? LOL
Nahhhhh If I wanted to do away with someone I'd rather have the
satisfaction of doing it my self. The Irish Catholic was a joke.
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No man is rich enough to buy back his past. (Oscar Wilde)
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Rogue wrote in message <19990930121537...@ng-cd1.aol.com>...
>Rev i think you like all this attention.
>
>Do you really think you'll win here?
Allow me to tell you a story - a Parable, if you like.
Once, there was a Usenet group called alt.gossip.royalty. Dedicated to the
pursuit items of Royal trivia - the type of frocks worn by royal harlots,
who murdered Princess Di, that sort of thing!.
It had been founded by an American lady named Patricia - who was the leading
light and the mainstay of the discussions that went on in that forum.
However, this good lady fell foul of an evil triumvirate who were determined
to seize control of agr and use it as a vehicle for their own opinions.
So, the wicked Gang Of Three, by name; Susan Cohen, Louis Epstein and Nick
'Choules' -actually, Mr Nicholas Burbidge of Oakville, Ontario, CA.- hit
upon a plan to hound the unfortunate Patricia from the group that she had
founded.
Aided by other malevolent posters, such as 'AGR3rd - 'Lord Of The Jade
Stick', they began a concerted campaign of harassment!. They wrote
constantly to her ISP (AOL) - alleging that Patricia was violating copyright
laws. They claimed that she posted 'off topic' (when, in fact, the greatest
amount of 'off topic' posts emanated from their poisonous clique!.
They even sent some of their complaints to AOL on Library Of Congress headed
paper.
After some time the AOL Mandarins began to get nervous!- after all, these
were literate, highly articulate, well connected people making the
complaints.
Unlike Patricia - who lacked the advantage of eloquence enjoyed by her
adversaries. She merely wished to write little articles about the royals
whom she (unaccountably!) loved so much.
Patricia was, by this time, dying of Cancer - a fact known to her
adversaries, who posted little jokes about her illness!. When Patricia
announced that she was to become a Grandmother, the clique derided her - and
smugly informed the world that she was a liar and/or insane.
This was particularly hurtful to Patricia - a pain that can still be
detected if you read her posts in the Deja archive.
Eventually, the clique won the day and AOL terminated the poor Woman's
account - this depriving her of the only real pleasure she had left in her
ebbing life!.
How the Gang Of Three and their associates crowed!.
Although Patricia did secure another ISP, her spirit was broken and, shortly
afterwards she died.
Then I happened to stumble upon the Group - and, when I found out what they
had done, I determined to take the bastards on myself.
They thought that I was merely another passing troll - and posted that I
would soon be gone. However, I told them at the time that they would find
me remarkably persistent and, after over a year, I think that they now
believe me!.
I launched an intensive campaign against them - which has caused to several
leading lights in that group to decamp - some of them publicly acknowledging
the wrong done by the Gang Of Three to the late Patricia!.
I sent them wave after wave of S.P.A.M. missiles, I developed the character
of General Exrxes, Socialist Revolutionary Hero and True Friend of the
toiling masses.
I posted weekly War Reports as well as additional bulletins from the Exrxes
News Network - much to their fury!.
They have caused me the loss of at least four ISP accounts - yet my flow of
messages was not affected, even for one day!.
I have run them ragged in over Four Thousand specific posts. I have named
the odious Mr Burbidge, I have borne all manner of insults, innuendoes and
hurtful remarks made about me and/or my family - and, despite their very
best efforts, I remain firmly in charge of the Group.
So, do I think I can do the same here?.
If I chose to, the answer might very possibly be 'Yes'.
However, the true love of my life is, and always will be, agr - they need
me there!.
Naiad
remotely true no one here has done anything like that .
Shadow
>
What a touching story, but always remember this, you only win if someone
plays the game, once, they declare themselves victor and cease to
acknowledge your existence then the game is done, and you loose ( so
long as they can refrain from posting to your comments )
As far as control over this group, I don't believe you have it in you,
but for that matter I don't believe anyone can control an unmediated
newsgroups, the best they can do is spam it, or for the real comp whiz
ones maybe shut it down for a short while. Pretty much that's all you
are capable of, this is pretty much why I don't take you or anyone like
you serious, or usenet in general serious. It.... wouldn't be very
prudent to do so.
You, have every right to be here much like anyone else, they don't lie
you, they can ignore kill file you what ever, personally I think you're
funny, and the world needs comedians. As far as your staying power
goes, only a year? That's ok I guess, 4 ISP's not bad either, but who
really cares? <insert Ferris Beuller's history teacher voice> Anyone?
Anyone? Anyone?<remove Ferris Beuller's history teacher voice> Aside
from the ones that went to the trouble of getting your ISP's to remove
you. I checked as well, The one that you are posting on now, already in
abuse data files. You get around. But that's really here nor there,
anyone at anytime can get an ISP they are a dime a dozen.
So what's this all prove? Absolutely nothing. Nadda, Nil, Zilch,
Zero.... <Insert Paul Harvey Voice> .... Good day
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Shadow
>
> But what made you decide to come here though ? If that story was even
> remotely true no one here has done anything like that .
It was a display to someone apparently to show them how easy it is to
start a flame war, get people riled up you name it.
Pretty much that's it.
That, and it loves hearing himself spew faceless dogma of a dead
religion.
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Time ripens all things, man is not born wise.
FACSTAFF
>
> Rogue wrote in message
Yes he does.
> >Do you really think you'll win here?
>
> Allow me to tell you a story - a Parable, if you like.
>
> Once, there was a Usenet group called alt.gossip.royalty. Dedicated to the
> pursuit items of Royal trivia - the type of frocks worn by royal harlots,
> who murdered Princess Di, that sort of thing!.
Gee, it looks like I missed the good stuff!
Repetitious boring stuff snipped as usual...
...- and, despite their very
> best efforts, I remain firmly in charge of the Group.
In yer dreams! Martha and I had to deal with your troll friends
while you were away. And we did it!
>
> So, do I think I can do the same here?.
>
> If I chose to, the answer might very possibly be 'Yes'.
>
> However, the true love of my life is, and always will be, agr - they need
> me there!.
Not with Martha and I in charge!
ak
Rogue
>Subject: Re: Across The Menai
>From: "Reverend Stapleton S Love" Reve...@stapletonslove.junglelink.co.uk
>Date: Thu, 30 September 1999 01:09 PM EDT
>Message-id: <7t05d4$ltq$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>
>
>
>Rogue wrote in message <19990930121537...@ng-cd1.aol.com>...
>>Rev i think you like all this attention.
>>
>>Do you really think you'll win here?
>
>
>Allow me to tell you a story - a Parable, if you like.
>
>Once, there was a Usenet group called alt.gossip.royalty. Dedicated to the
>pursuit items of Royal trivia - the type of frocks worn by royal harlots,
>who murdered Princess Di, that sort of thing!.
>
>hurtful remarks made about me and/or my family - and, despite their very
>best efforts, I remain firmly in charge of the Group.
>
>So, do I think I can do the same here?.
>
>If I chose to, the answer might very possibly be 'Yes'.
>
>However, the true love of my life is, and always will be, agr - they need
>me there!.
>
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FACSTAFF
not find
> any other reference to her.
>
> -- Vievenege
I'm from AGR, and an occasional lurker on a few pagan ngs. The
Rev. knows me as the Chief Crone of AGR, he's a pain in the neck
and a lot of our people have killfiled him. Actually, what
you're getting is very mild.
Annie
Rhyanon
shitline if they don't buy the xtian shitline? Answer: One doesn't, troll.
Reverend Stapleton S Love <Reve...@stapletonslove.junglelink.co.uk> wrote
in message news:7svtnq$es6$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> Rhyanon wrote in message <7svsqr$o6o$1...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>...
> >Too bad your entire theory is a pile of dogshit with as much credibility
as
> >the Buybull it's based on --- zero.
>
>
Sean MacUisdin
(One big ass snip)
RAOTFLMFAO - You're no more a Christian than you are a man, Punkah Boy.
Now, are you the wittle boy making all that noise?
Air muir 's air tir,
Sean of Clan Uisdin
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bathtub mulling over his thoughts wi' a dram o' Glen Ord.
Remove 'mac' to reply.
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Tha Gleann Garadh ceannsgalach
connspannach cruaidh,
chumadh ri luchd aimhreit
a' chonnspaid ud suas;
'n am tharraig gu sanntach
nan lann as an truaill
mholainn do luchd gamhlais
'san am ud bhith uaibh;
bidh ceum cridheil air reing trithear -
cha ghleidh bruidhinn buaidh --
aig buidheann mhor cheannard
nach teann mo chuid uam.
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Sean MacUisdin
(Sniiiiiiiip)
The fake wannabe Christian guise is so old. Surely such a 'big' man like
you can come up with something better?
Sean MacUisdin
(Whoa! Anyone see that snip comin'?)
Sorry little fellow - limp of mind and body. Such a wittle toy for us to
play with. But we do feel sorry for you, Punkah boy.
No heaven for you either. Sad sad sad. I've seen it. I've scryed it.
Such a lonely little boy you will forever be. I feel pity for you.
Sean MacUisdin
Pitiful little Punkah boy. No one loves you. God doesn't like you
either, Punkah boy. I've seen it. I've scryed it. Sad little Punkah boy.
Sean MacUisdin
(Snip!!! Now you'd a thunk it.)
Poor little man. SO much noise.
On your knees and begging for attention from us.
We'll play with you, sad little Punkah boy.
Sean MacUisdin
> I'm from AGR, and an occasional lurker on a few pagan ngs. The
> Rev. knows me as the Chief Crone of AGR, he's a pain in the neck
> and a lot of our people have killfiled him. Actually, what
> you're getting is very mild.
> Annie
Merry meet.
Actually, what he's getting is very mild.
Naiad
about Scotland and Scots and you`re buying into it ! And now I think he`s
invited a friend to join in . Can`t you stop ?
Sean MacUisdin <sean.ma...@home.com> wrote in message
news:37F3B583...@home.com...
> Reverend Stapleton S Love wrote:
>
> (Snip!!! Now you'd a thunk it.)
>
> Poor little man. SO much noise.
> On your knees and begging for attention from us.
> We'll play with you, sad little Punkah boy.
>
Aazari Cantharess
Reverend Stapleton S Love wrote in message
<7t05d4$ltq$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>Allow me to tell you a story - a Parable, if you like.
>
>Once, there was a Usenet group called alt.gossip.royalty. Dedicated to the
>pursuit items of Royal trivia - the type of frocks worn by royal harlots,
>who murdered Princess Di, that sort of thing!.
(Yadda-yadda-yadda...SNIP!)
What's your point? This isn't some googly-eyed royal-worshipper newsgroup.
This is a spiritual newsgroup and I can assure you there are people here
(such as myself and many others) who are just as dedicated to our religions
and spirituality as you claim to be to yours. You are just another right
wing, extremist troll as far as I'm concerned.....Oh, and by the way, I am
a REVEREND. So don't go thinking that just tacking that title on your
postings really gives you any weight at all...... It doesn't mean squat
outside of your particular religious group, even if you are a real reverend,
which I doubt seriously. Unless you've gotten your ordination from Rev.
Harvey from Killeen, TX. Not THAT I would believe. And that would mean
you're out of favor with the grand pooh-bahs of your church *snicker*......
And, also note that I removed a.g.r from the posting list so this wouldn't
get cross-posted into a newsgroup to which it really is not relevant. Now,
kindly go spout your hate to people who are gullible enough to believe it,
TROLL.
Blessed Be!
Aazari Cantharess
Aazari Cantharess
Blessed Be!
Aazari Cantharess
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Sean MacUisdin wrote in message <37F3B1F2...@home.com>...
>Reverend Stapleton S Love wrote:
>
>(One big ass snip)
>
>RAOTFLMFAO - You're no more a Christian than you are a man, Punkah Boy.
>
>Now, are you the wittle boy making all that noise?
(sigh) - before embarrassing yourself further, Sean, do study my reply in
the 'One More for You Rev' thread - please! - for all our sakes.
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Sean MacUisdin wrote in message <37F3B645...@home.com>...
>FACSTAFF wrote:
>
>> I'm from AGR, and an occasional lurker on a few pagan ngs. The
>> Rev. knows me as the Chief Crone of AGR, he's a pain in the neck
>> and a lot of our people have killfiled him. Actually, what
>> you're getting is very mild.
>> Annie
>
>Merry meet.
>
>Actually, what he's getting is very mild.
Bwaahhhhaaaaaa!!! - don't tell me!, next, you'll lift your Kilt and frighten
me to death!.
Back to the Bothy, Ma wee Laddie - this is one fight ye canna win!.
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Shadow wrote in message <37F3A18D...@aug.com>...
You are really one of the better sort of Witches around here - and quite
perceptive as well!.
You are, of course, correct! - no one really CAN control a Usenet Group, and
this was the point that I rammed home to the Gang Of Three - who thought
that they could!.
I am glad to see that you don't take Usenet seriously! - I certainly don't
and, as far as the ISP's go, I have been chucked of quite a few more than
Four. (they were just the ones lost to me by the Royalists! - if you REALLY
want to see venom, go and flame the cat people on rec.pets.cats.community!.
I can assure you -in TOTAL honesty- that I don't give half a rats ass
whether you or anyone else complains to my current ISP or not.
(it's Freeserve BTW, or, at least, a branded version of Freeserve -
interestingly, I have been kicked off Freeserve three times now!. The last
was for failing to provide info in order that they could bombard me with
junk mail from the Dixons Stores Group.
I like 'em because their server is fast and up to date - but, trust me, they
are only one of dozens of ISP's all clamouring for custom.
Incidentally, Freeserve announced a loss of £5 Million in the last three
months. As my personal contribution to their coffers via phone charges is
not inconsiderable, I have a theory that they quite welcome my presence on
their line.
As far as 'Someone To Play The Game With, goes - why!, Usenet is simply
bursting with people who would drink bleach in preference to refraining to
answer me!.
You will ALWAYS find SOMEONE who cannot help replying, it's human nature!.
Bless You
Rev Love
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Sean MacUisdin wrote in message <37F3B583...@home.com>...
>We'll play with you, sad little Punkah boy.
Of that, I have NO doubt!.
You are the stuff of Trolls dreams!.
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Naiad wrote in message ...
>But what made you decide to come here though ? If that story was even
>remotely true no one here has done anything like that .
Well no, my little Naiad, gentle Faun of the sacred woods, no one said that
you did.
The story about agr WAS perfectly true, BTW - and can easily be verified in
Deja, but that is not the reason for my Ministry amongst you here.
I feel that I have something unique to contribute to this Group, something
worthwhile, something beautiful!. To deny you my Gift would be selfish of
me - despite the hostility with which the inhabitants of alt.pagan have
greeted the mendicant Friar who wandered in the midst of them!.
While I am here I will attempt to teach you my thoughts - and when I have
gone you will remember me always!.
With affection, I hope.
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Aazari Cantharess wrote in message
<1131BD835833497E.C0A37A85...@lp.airnews.net>...
>
>Reverend Stapleton S Love wrote in message
><7t05d4$ltq$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>What's your point? This isn't some googly-eyed royal-worshipper newsgroup.
>This is a spiritual newsgroup
Excellent! - for I am a very Spiritual person!. No wonder I feel so at home
here!.
and I can assure you there are people here
>(such as myself and many others) who are just as dedicated to our religions
>and spirituality as you claim to be to yours
Then we can all look forward to interminable, yet strangely satisfying,
theological debates!. Whoopee
. You are just another right
>wing, extremist troll as far as I'm concerned
Splutter!, Choke!, Gasp! .... Right Wing!!, Right Wing!!. You stupid
witch! - I am General Exrxes!, Socialist Class Warrior, Upholder Of The
Rights Of The People (except, of course, Witches!) and Revolutionary
Hero!!!.
Call me anything you wish - but, PLEASE!, I beg you!, NOT Right wing!!
Excuse me while I go and lie down for a moment.......
.....Oh, and by the way, I am
>a REVEREND
Then call me Brother!.
. So don't go thinking that just tacking that title on your
>postings really gives you any weight at all...... It doesn't mean squat
OK, what about 'Dr Karl Voetlaanger', the Clinical Psychologist - have you
got one of those in here?. Would that title be more acceptable to you? -
I'll do almost anything to please!.
>outside of your particular religious group, even if you are a real
reverend,
>which I doubt seriously. Unless you've gotten your ordination from Rev.
>Harvey from Killeen, TX.
Don't you knock that Good and Faithful Shepherd!.
Not THAT I would believe. And that would mean
>you're out of favor with the grand pooh-bahs of your church *snicker*......
Oh, I spend my entire life 'out of favour' with folks! - please don't
concern yourself about it, I don't!
>And, also note that I removed a.g.r from the posting list so this wouldn't
>get cross-posted into a newsgroup to which it really is not relevant
To trim headers is a sign of extreme rudeness! - but I forgive you.
. Now,
>kindly go spout your hate to people who are gullible enough to believe it,
But I have a Calling here! - do you wish me to let these poor people perish
in their darkness?! - surely not!.
>TROLL.
Amen!.
>Blessed Be!
>Aazari Cantharess
And Bless you, as well!.
Sean MacUisdin
> >We'll play with you, sad little Punkah boy.
>
> Of that, I have NO doubt!.
>
> You are the stuff of Trolls dreams!.
Play play play.
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Aazari Cantharess wrote in message
>I just had to ask....What exactly is a "Punkah" anyway? *lol*
Oh, 'Punkha' (correct spelling) is an old colonial term - used in India to
describe the natives who laboured for the idle white sods who exploited 'em.
Thus, the person who sat on the 'verandah' (Indian Term!) with a rope
attatched to his foot, pulling the large rectangular peice of cloth that
served as a fan inside the house/office, was a 'Punkha Wallah'
Similarly, he who made the tea was a 'Char Wallah' and the person who washed
the clothes was a 'Dohbi Wallah'
And so on, and so forth..........
I suppose that makes me a 'Flame Wallah' - though, when you come to think of
it, 'Punkah', someone who fans things is, actually, quite approriate!.
I'll see just how much 'Punkahring' I can get done in here!...........
Sean MacUisdin
(Snip)
::sigh:: So easy to play with you, Punkah boy. Nothing more than a
marionette.
Naiad
>
>Water Nymph Rev. And what thoughts? Arguing about Scotland ?
Susan Cohen
Shadow wrote:
> Reverend Stapleton S Love wrote:
> >
> > Rogue wrote in message <19990930121537...@ng-cd1.aol.com>...
> > >Rev i think you like all this attention.
> > >
> > >Do you really think you'll win here?
> >
> > Allow me to tell you a story - a Parable, if you like.
> >
> > Once, there was a Usenet group called alt.gossip.royalty. Dedicated to the
> > pursuit items of Royal trivia - the type of frocks worn by royal harlots,
> > who murdered Princess Di, that sort of thing!.
> >
> > It had been founded by an American lady named Patricia
No, it wasn't. Please stop lying.
> - who was the leading
> > light and the mainstay of the discussions that went on in that forum.
> >
> > However, this good lady fell foul of an evil triumvirate who were determined
> > to seize control of agr and use it as a vehicle for their own opinions.
> >
> > So, the wicked Gang Of Three, by name; Susan Cohen, Louis Epstein and Nick
> > 'Choules' -actually, Mr Nicholas Burbidge of Oakville, Ontario, CA.- hit
> > upon a plan to hound the unfortunate Patricia from the group that she had
> > founded.
You are a liar, as I have said every. Please prove that I ever
did anything like this.
> > Aided by other malevolent posters, such as 'AGR3rd - 'Lord Of The Jade
> > Stick', they began a concerted campaign of harassment!.
Please prove that I did this.
> They wrote
> > constantly to her ISP (AOL)
Please prove that I did this.
> - alleging that Patricia was violating copyright
> > laws.
Well, I was here - she did.
> They claimed that she posted 'off topic'
Actually, she did, but it wasn't all that irritating.
A lot of times it was recipes. But she really didn't go
off-topic all that much. That I remember....
> (when, in fact, the greatest
> > amount of 'off topic' posts emanated from their poisonous clique!.
You lie again.
> > They even sent some of their complaints to AOL on Library Of Congress headed
> > paper.
Please prove that I did this.
> > After some time the AOL Mandarins began to get nervous!- after all, these
> > were literate, highly articulate, well connected people making the
> > complaints.
Ah, we're back to your best lie: that you're here not to be an ass,
but to "uphold the innocent". What a crock.
> > Unlike Patricia - who lacked the advantage of eloquence enjoyed by her
> > adversaries.
You lie yet again, & defame a dead woman, You should be ashamed.
> She merely wished to write little articles about the royals
> > whom she (unaccountably!) loved so much.
That's only the half of it, of course. Or, perhaps, a third.
> > Patricia was, by this time, dying of Cancer - a fact known to her
> > adversaries, who posted little jokes about her illness!.
I can't say this is a total lie, but it's most of one.
AFAIK, it was known to no one. She complained of many different
things, and yet could contradict her posts, which made me, at one
point, doubt the entire story of her being ill at all. We only knew what
was posted, which was neither provable nor wasn't always consistent
> When Patricia
> > announced that she was to become a Grandmother, the clique derided her - and
> > smugly informed the world that she was a liar and/or insane.
Please prove that I ever did this. And please prove that those who
doubted her had no point to do so. I admit I had my doubts, but I
know for a fact that you are lying.
> > This was particularly hurtful to Patricia - a pain that can still be
> > detected if you read her posts in the Deja archive.
And she was very often very hurtful herself. When you read Deja.com,
read *all* of her posts.
> > Eventually, the clique won the day and AOL terminated the poor Woman's
> > account - this depriving her of the only real pleasure she had left in her
> > ebbing life!.
> >
> > How the Gang Of Three and their associates crowed!.
You are lying yet again. Please post proof that I ever did anything like this.
> > Although Patricia did secure another ISP, her spirit was broken and, shortly
> > afterwards she died.
> >
> > Then I happened to stumble upon the Group - and, when I found out what they
> > had done, I determined to take the bastards on myself.
You are lying again, of course. You came here on the heels of a troll
announcement from one of your dedicated troll groups, with the sole
intention of being an obnoxious little rat. You discovered Patricia
only after you were resisted & punished for your abuse of Usenet.
> > They thought that I was merely another passing troll - and posted that I
> > would soon be gone. However, I told them at the time that they would find
> > me remarkably persistent and, after over a year, I think that they now
> > believe me!.
Well, we believe that you obviously have nothing really worthwhile to do.
And we were obviously correct.
> > I launched an intensive campaign against them - which has caused to several
> > leading lights in that group to decamp
You are a liar.
> - some of them publicly acknowledging
> > the wrong done by the Gang Of Three to the late Patricia!.
None of them did this, as they know very well only one of those
you "finger" ever said anything like your lies.
> > I sent them wave after wave of S.P.A.M. missiles, I developed the character
> > of General Exrxes, Socialist Revolutionary Hero and True Friend of the
> > toiling masses.
Right: you made all this up - especially your "motive."
> > I posted weekly War Reports as well as additional bulletins from the Exrxes
> > News Network - much to their fury!.
> >
> > They have caused me the loss of at least four ISP accounts - yet my flow of
> > messages was not affected, even for one day!.
Not by my count.
> > I have run them ragged in over Four Thousand specific posts.
No, you have run yourself ragged, as could be seen by the deterioration of both
language and grammar in many of your posts.
> I have named
> > the odious Mr Burbidge,
You *think* you named him. You did, however, negligently post your own name, much
to your fury.
> I have borne all manner of insults, innuendoes and
> > hurtful remarks made about me and/or my family
And you have made far more insults, innuendos & hurtful remarks about
other people as well as their families and religions. You can dish it
out, but you sure can't take it. Like any other toddler/gradeschooler I've
ever observed.
> - and, despite their very
> > best efforts, I remain firmly in charge of the Group.
In your dreams. You said you'd shut us down. You haven't.
> > So, do I think I can do the same here?.
Which "here" is this? Alt.pagan? Good luck, idiot.
> > If I chose to, the answer might very possibly be 'Yes'.
And you might very possibly get your butt kicked yet again.
> > However, the true love of my life is, and always will be, agr - they need
> > me there!.
>
> What a touching story, but always remember this, you only win if someone
> plays the game, once, they declare themselves victor and cease to
> acknowledge your existence then the game is done, and you loose ( so
> long as they can refrain from posting to your comments )
I, myself, like to not only set the record straight, but to see exactly what
groups he's reading. I also like to challenge him every so often. This
post may bring about yet another instance where he swears that if we
can prove he's lying about something, he'll leave. He reneged on the
last one, but I do like to destroy his "champion of the people" pose.
There's a thought.
Susan
Sean MacUisdin
> I suppose that makes me a 'Flame Wallah'
Hahahahahahahahahah. Poor poor little man. Sleep tight tonight.
Sean MacUisdin
>
> >Reverend Stapleton S Love wrote:
> >
> >
> >::sigh:: So easy to play with you, Punkah boy. Nothing more than a
> >marionette.
>
> self!
>
> Wherever did Ye get yon gift o' repartee from?
Sleep tight tonight.
--
Sean MacUisdin
(Snip)
Don't let the bed bugs bite.
Jaguar
>On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Naiad wrote:
> How did a Troll NOT A REVEREND ! Come to a Pagan NG and start a flame war
> about Scotland and Scots and you`re buying into it ! And now I think he`s
> invited a friend to join in . Can`t you stop ?
Simple my dear. Dangle a hook with a big fat worm & some fish is bound to
bite (it makes a nice change from the current crude flamers)
At lest this troll is witty & interactive.
Even if he is a Roman lackey;)
Or would you rather hear about some pagan trolls crude sex horror story
flame again?
Jaguar
Shadow
True, so many people so little time.
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Too much of a good thing is wonderful. (Mae West)
Aazari Cantharess
Reverend Stapleton S Love wrote in message
<7t0rmq$it2$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>
>Oh the Scot's! - what a bestial race they are, to be sure!.
>
>Ungovernable!, uncivilised!, given to wearing outlandish costumes (rather
>like their dreadful Cousins, the Welsh) - a race of savages whose goal in
>life is grow into some awful man-mountain who can toss tree trunks about at
>their 'Highland Games'!!.
>
>But, mercifully, they have but little brain - and, thus can be easily made
>to labour for the good of England!.
My, aren't you the biggoted little peanut head!!! I hate to tell you, the
bloods in England, Ireland and Scotland are so intermingled, there's no
grounds for anyone over there to be saying "you (insert nationality here)
suck" unless they intend to be saying they themselves suck too. And
obviously you didn't learn anything from your bible so-called reverend....
else you would know that even thinking about enslaving others is a major
no-no in the eyes of your god, especially if those others are members of his
flock.
Blessed Be!
Aazari Cantharess
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Naiad wrote in message ...
>
>Reverend Stapleton S Love <Reve...@stapletonslove.junglelink.co.uk> wrote
>in message news:7t0om0$gh2$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>
>>Water Nymph Rev.
I happily stand corected, liitle one.
And what thoughts? Arguing about Scotland ?
Oh the Scot's! - what a bestial race they are, to be sure!.
Ungovernable!, uncivilised!, given to wearing outlandish costumes (rather
like their dreadful Cousins, the Welsh) - a race of savages whose goal in
life is grow into some awful man-mountain who can toss tree trunks about at
their 'Highland Games'!!.
But, mercifully, they have but little brain - and, thus can be easily made
to labour for the good of England!.
Thus, we have systematically robbed them of their Gas and Oil reserves -
sending them sufficient welfare payments to keep them in a drunken stupor
while we plundered their wild, inhospitable, land!.
In addition, we actively promote their consumption of extremely high
cholesterol foodstuffs - which ensures that they have a disproportionately
high rate of Cardiovascular disease, thus removing the necessity for an
annual cull of these barbarous animals!.
Now, however, their usefulness to the English economy is coming to an end.
Dwindling energy stocks mean that they will soon be surplus to our
requirements and, with careful forethought and planning, we are encouraging
these stumbling ogres and ogresses to sever all ties with civilisation and
look towards Europe for their handouts instead.
I, for one, hope that we can rebuild the wall, so wisely constructed by the
Roman Emperor, Hadrian, and thus ensure that these fearsome creatures remain
on their game reserve!.
We certainly don't want 'em rampaging through Surrey!.
Reverend Stapleton S Love
Sean MacUisdin wrote in message <37F3F708...@home.com>...
>Reverend Stapleton S Love wrote:
>
>(Snip)
>
>Don't let the bed bugs bite.
Yawwwnnnn - you right, I need my sleep! - tomorrow I start work on
rebuilding that wall...........
BMW
>
> Naiad wrote in message ...
> >
> >Reverend Stapleton S Love <Reve...@stapletonslove.junglelink.co.uk>
wrote
> >in message news:7t0om0$gh2$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> to labour for the good of England!.
This from an Anglo-Saxon who's too stupid to know he's been ruled by the
Celts since 1066
> We certainly don't want 'em rampaging through Surrey!.
what's Surrey got that anyone would want to rampage through it?
--
BMW
The Goddess loves everyone, but some
strange people love her
nagathrall
"Reverend Stapleton S Love"
<Reve...@stapletonslove.junglelink.co.uk> wrote:
>
> nagathrall wrote in message <7suks9$6ao$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> >In article <7sueqf$lkm$1...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
> > "Rhyanon" <rhy...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >> Oooooo, good one, nagathrall. Excellent post. Too bad this is a
> >troll, and
> >> is only interested in getting replies, not the caliber of the
> >individual
> >> reply. But I enjoyed reading yours.
> >> ~Suz.~
> >Thank you. I find the dear Rev. rather fun troll or no and if he
> >dares he can take me on I would enjoy the ride. Blessings, John
> >> nagathrall <nagat...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> >> news:7subsq$4i$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> >> > In article <7stslc$6nt$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> >> > "Reverend Stapleton S Love"
> >> > <Reve...@stapletonslove.junglelink.co.uk> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Rogue wrote in message <19990929162007.04910.00000103@ng-
> >> > fc1.aol.com>...
> >> > > >i dont work evil my friend. Because we dont think the way you
> >do we
> >> > are
> >> > > evil?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Go masterbate in your wheaties, my demented one.
> >> > >
> >> > > You are of your Father, the Devil! -(and you can't spell,
either!)
> >> > >
> >> > >Spelling aside Rev. Satan is a Christian god and only you need
fear
> >> > him. As a pagan I accept Yahwey as a god but find it sad that so
> >many
> >> > are still in thrall to the old demiurge. After Lilith walked out
on
> >> > him and Mother Eve stole away his slave Adam and turned him into
a
> >> > human being the poor I AM that I AM has been running scared that
> >some
> >> > day we might find the Tree of Eternal Life and there will be
hell to
> >> > pay(so to speak). And make no mistake Rev. we will find it and
when
> >we
> >> > do I will be there to kick your silly god off his throne and deal
> >with
> >> > you personaly. Blessings, John
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > Wisdom requires a surrender, verging on the mystical, of
> >> > a person to the glory of existence.
> >> > Gerhard Von Rad
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> >> > Before you buy.
>
> Nagathrall,
>
> If you require a SERIOUS philosophical debate, then I am happy to
give you
> one.
Not serious, but I had hoped it would be fun.
> Although I have a penchant for Trolling, I do have perfectly serious
beliefs
> and am quite willing to share them with you.
All of us await the learned Love.
> For starters, we could explore the origins of the so-
called 'femininity' of
> the 'goddess'.
Fully explored Rev. remember who you're talking to. The Goddess is
feminine by definition.
> It doesn't require too much intelligence to appreciate that this
blasphemy
> (for Blasphemy is what it is!) is aimed fairly and squarely at the
> Masculinity of the Godhead!.
Yes well, I never thought this would take too much intelligence.
> I am aware that 'goddess' worship (in innumerable forms) has been
practised
> by virtually every culture since the dawn of time - indeed, the
worship of
> 'Mary' (as endorsed by the R.C. Church) is merely another
manifestation of
> this phenomenon.
Yes, there have been and still are pagans. What's your point?
> Why?
Sorry, here it is.
> Because to deny the Masculinity of God is to strike at the very heart
of
> Christian belief!.
Now let me make sure I'm clear on this. When the first images of
Goddess were carved into stone twenty five thousand years ago it was
the beginnig of a vast conspiracy, envolving every culture in the
world, the purpose of which was to castrate Yahwey. Am I clear?
> Consider,
Sweet Jesus, not more!
> I assume you are familiar with the Christian concept of 'Original
Sin' -
> which holds that all of us are born with residual sin - even before
we take
> our first breath!.
You mean Augustines deliberate mis-translation of Romans 5:12 which
allowed him to enshrine forever into Christianity his own self
loathing. I am familiar. To quote W.H. Auden,"as a rule it was the
haters of pleasure who became unjust."
> We are the inheritors of Adam's sin - and, thus, no matter how good a
life
> we might live, no matter what acts of charity we might perform, no
matter
> what self denial we might practice - we can NEVER be free of the sin
that is
> an intrinsic part of a nature.
>
> With me so far?, Ok.
With you? With You? Not even the Council Of Trent dared attempt a
definition of original sin. "Residual Sin" Kudos! Rev. Agustine would
have been proud.
Sorry Rev. I just read the rest of your post and I am very sorry
I didn't know really I didn't. When you stand up at the judgement
seat of Christ put in a good word for me OK. Something like"there was
this pagan guy named John and he could have ripped me to shreds but
he didn't. For that I am grateful."
> Now, the Bible teaches us that God abhors sin - and that sin MUST be
> punished. (I am being deliberately simplistic here, for the sake of
> brevity, so bear with me!).
>
> The Bible also teaches us that we are very special to God! - that He
loves
> us all (even me!) and that He is unwilling for us to enter into the
eternal
> damnation which is reserved for the Devil (who was, formerly, an
important
> Angel of light) and the lesser Angels who followed him in his
rebellion
> against God
>
> So, God had something of a problem.
Pray tell, did he manage to solve it?
> The Law had to be upheld - yet HE loved us and certainly did not wish
for
> any of us to spend eternity in torment.
Yes well, I can see the problem now.
> So, John Cp3 v. 16 (a verse I'm sure you know) says that "God so
loved the
> world that He gave His only begotten son in order that whosoever
believeth
> on Him should not perish but have everlasting life".
>
> Note the use of the words "Only Begotten" - they are crucial to the
whole
> matter (but are best covered in another thread).
>
> I am no believer in the 'Trinity' - it has absolutely no scriptural
> foundation! - Jesus clearly taught that "I and my Father am one" -
and not
> just 'one' in purpose or intent!.
>
> John (speaking about Jesus) said that 'All things were made by him -
and
> without Him was not anything made that was made". Thus, as "God
created the
> Heavens and the Earth", it is obvious that Jesus and God are one and
the
> same!.
>
> Now, to the matter of the punishment for sin. As I have already
stated, the
> Law had to be fulfilled - and it is, truly, the Wonder of all wonders
that
> God was prepared to take on the form of man in order to live a
sinless life
> and then offer himself as a spotless sacrifice for the sins of you
and I!.
>
> Angels saw it - but could not understand it!. Who can possibly
understand a
> Love so deep and so selfless?!.
>
> However, there was still the problem of original sin!. If Jesus had
been
> born of an earthly father, His sinless life would have been pointless
> because He would still have had the stain of original sin passed to
him at
> conception!.
>
> That is why Mary was caused to conceive without sexual intercourse.
Because
> Jesus was not conceived in the accepted sense, no original sin was
passed to
> Him - he broke the chain.
>
> I appreciate that I am probably not explaining this terribly well, but
> perhaps you can take my point about the essence of Gods masculinity.
>
> Then after a sinless birth and a sinless life (and, in all other
respects,
> Jesus was completely human and was subject to exactly the same
temptations
> as we are!) He offered himself on the Cross as an atonement for our
own
> sins.
>
> I can assure you that gathered unseen around the Cross was just about
every
> Demon and foul Spirit loose on earth!.
>
> It was their moment of 'triumph'!.
>
> It was not merely the nails nor the thorns that caused the pain - it
was ALL
> the suffering that had been and would be to come!.
>
> It was the grief of a mother weeping for her lost child, it was the
pain of
> a man refusing to let go of his dead wife!, it was the terror in the
> darkness of the Gas Chambers of Auschwitz, it was the sorrow of every
act of
> cruelty, every injustice, every rape, every murder..........
>
> It was the pain of these things that broke His heart on the Cross.
Pain
> that was not his to bear - and which He willingly took upon himself
for me
> and for you.
>
> So the took him down form the Cross and they buried him in a borrowed
tomb.
>
> But, He could not be bound by Death - for death had no claim on him!.
>
> His Resurrection, not just His death, is the key to our chance of
eternal
> life. "Because I live, you may live also".
>
> If we choose Him, that is.............
>
> If you wish to worship the Spirits of darkness that mocked him while
He was
> hanging upon the Cross, that is your choice! - we do have such a
choice, we
> are not automatons!, we have been given a free will in such matters.
>
> However, be assured that He will return again (possibly sooner than
any of
> us realise!) and that He will cast those whom you currently worship
into the
> lake of eternal fire - together with all those who follow them.
>
> There will be a nuclear war involving the Jews (who, despite
everything, are
> STILL His chosen people!) and they will finally accept Christ as their
> Messiah - even though Israel will be virtually wiped out. In the
final hours
> of this world they WILL acknowledge that HE, alone, is their
Salvation and
> their Deliverer!.
>
> this is not hysteria, nor scare mongering, nor invention, nor a fairy
tale!.
> It is simple, unalterable fact!.
>
> Here endeth the first lesson.
>
Oh my God. You really believe this stuff don't you? I honest to God
thought this was a put on man. Christ Jesus, you're hooked aren't you.
you fell for it. Some where back there somebody convinced you that you
were separated from the Divine and you believed it. You were going to
hell and you believed it. You were low life scum and you belived it.
"Your life sucks and always has sucked and always will suck untill you
give your heart to Jesus." Is that how it went? Ahh, Jesus H. Christ
man, you were born in sin and there's not a damn thing you can do about
it. I know Rev. I was there once and it took a long time to get back.
You can do it to if you just try. You're not the brightest bulb on
the tree of life and Yahshua probably won't even know you're gone.
make the break Rev. I'm rootin for you. Blessings, John
--
Wisdom requires a surrender, verging on the mystical, of
a person to the glory of existence.
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Before you buy.
Twilight Sky
>full of contemptuous people.
Personally, I think you're kind of robbing yourself this way. Of what, I've no
idea, but I think all religions have something to offer. I don't think it's a
contemptuous religion, and some of the people involved are genuinely good
people who have their heads on straight. Sadly, these are the quiet ones. Also
sadly, it's imbalanced and because of the changes made to the Bible, it's far
too easy for corrupt church officials to control the weak-minded and those who
are fearful of the emasculated Christian God.
*吩@d3*
Shadow
>
> Reverend Stapleton S Love wrote in message
> <7t0rmq$it2$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>...
> >
> >Oh the Scot's! - what a bestial race they are, to be sure!.
> >
> >Ungovernable!, uncivilised!, given to wearing outlandish costumes (rather
> >like their dreadful Cousins, the Welsh) - a race of savages whose goal in
> >life is grow into some awful man-mountain who can toss tree trunks about at
> >their 'Highland Games'!!.
> >
> >to labour for the good of England!.
>
> bloods in England, Ireland and Scotland are so intermingled, there's no
> grounds for anyone over there to be saying "you (insert nationality here)
> suck" unless they intend to be saying they themselves suck too. And
> obviously you didn't learn anything from your bible so-called reverend....
> else you would know that even thinking about enslaving others is a major
> no-no in the eyes of your god, especially if those others are members of his
> flock.
>
> Blessed Be!
> Aazari Cantharess
Actually, there is discussion in the bible concerning slavery, and it is
acceptable. If you want I can quote the passages.
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There is no idea, no fact, which could not be vulgarized and presented
in a ludicrous light.
Naiad
Jaguar <jag...@Radix.Net> wrote in message
news:Pine.SV4.3.96.990930...@saltmine.radix
Amy Byrd
You seem the type who would be interested in the mythos of Dionysius and
Mithras, Reverend, I might suggest them to you as well for late night
reading.
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Y gwir yn erbyn byd.
Amy Byrd
silence, as is befitting of an apprentice. But Reverend...in all of your
posts, you have always been very eager to tell us of your "conquests" if you
will. You have spoken over and over of converting, and praying for others.
You have evaded all attempts to initiate an actual discussion, and foregone
them for a childish spew of banter unbecoming of anyone claiming to be a
member of any manner of clergy.
If you want to be serious, I would like to take you on as my first civil
discussion of theology. But if you want to keep on with this display, then
you may go back to the fabricated delusion of hell you hold so dear for us
"heathens," and you may burn in it.
y gwir yn erbyn byd
amy
Sean MacUisdin
Merry meet, Amy:
The 'reverend' is not a reverend, nor is he a Christian. It is one of
many online personas. 'Phil' is merely a sad little man with a wide
variety of social problems. He is the saddest kind of troll. You cannot
argue with him, and you cannot debate with him. Insulting him only gives
the 'puir wee man' the attention he cannot find in reality. He is a sad
case really; alone and unloved. If you ignore him and maybe give him a
kind pat on the head once in a while, he may go elsewhere to play.
Naiad
tired of people not paying attention and popping up with "Let`s have a real
discussion Rev" when we know he isn`t one .
Sean MacUisdin <sean.ma...@home.com> wrote in message
news:37F53302...@home.com...
Amy Byrd
It seems very interesting that the two mythos correspond to the christ
mythos. (no intention of rudeness.)
Thank you for the suggestions, I will most definately look into them.
Rev Stapleton S Love
nagathrall wrote in message <7t1cph$71p$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>>
>Oh my God. You really believe this stuff don't you? I honest to God
>thought this was a put on man. Christ Jesus, you're hooked aren't you.
>you fell for it. Some where back there somebody convinced you that you
>were separated from the Divine and you believed it. You were going to
>hell and you believed it. You were low life scum and you belived it.
>"Your life sucks and always has sucked and always will suck untill you
>give your heart to Jesus." Is that how it went? Ahh, Jesus H. Christ
>man, you were born in sin and there's not a damn thing you can do about
>it. I know Rev. I was there once and it took a long time to get back.
>You can do it to if you just try. You're not the brightest bulb on
>the tree of life and Yahshua probably won't even know you're gone.
>make the break Rev. I'm rootin for you. Blessings, John
Well, yes - actually, I do believe it. Totally.
But that is no accomplishment! - Paul said (rather scathingly, about those
who 'believed') "You, 'Believe'? - you do well!!. Even the devils
believe! - and tremble!.
I am aware that 'Belief' is not enough. One can 'believe' that to drive a
car without brakes is dangerous - but, if one still hops and roars away in
the defective vehicle, one shouldn't be surprised to wake up in Casualty (or
not wake up at all!).
The devils and demons know the truth - but that cannot save them. Remember
what they said to Jesus when he met the man possessed by demons (the story
of the Gadderine swine), "What have we to do with you?" - they knew Him,
they had once worshipped before Him in heaven - they certainly 'believed'
who He was!.
I have now, also, lived long enough to see the end result of following your
pathway.
I have known people who spent their entire lives mocking and deriding the
Gospel - yet, at the time of their death, they knew terrible fear as they
faced eternity.
Similarly, I have known others who have followed their Lord Jesus in life -
and who had great peace, and even joy!, in their hearts at the end as they
waited to step out of this world and go to be with their Saviour forever.
It always amuses me when anti-Christians claim that the Gospel rules through
Fear, Superstition, Ignorance, etc!. These are the very things that the
Gospel removes!!!.
I know that what passes for Christianity today is merely a pale shadow of
what it should be! - and I am, also, aware that I am no particular advert
for it.
Are you familiar with the Biblical story of Samson? - if so, you will recall
that Delilah wheedled the secret of his strength, his long hair, from him
and promptly cut his locks whilst Samson slept, thus rendering him weak.
Firstly, the secret of his strength lay, not in the length of his hair, but
in his obedience to God. God had told him never to cut it - and, while he
obeyed, his strength remained.
Secondly, the whole story (while factual) is also a picture of
Christianity!. The 'hair' represents the Holy Spirit - and the cutting
thereof represents the Church 'losing' the Spirit through disobedience and
sin.
Now, the story continues with Delilah, after cutting Samson's hair, calling
the Philistines to take him captive. Samson leapt up - not realising that
his hair had been cut, and attempted to kill the lot of 'em - as was his
wont!.
The Bible says that "He wist not that his strength had departed".
So, inevitably, he was taken prisoner - and made into a spectacle of public
humiliation. Finally he was blinded and compelled to work like an Ox,
turning a wheel.
Then, at the feast of Baal, he was taken into the temple to be triumphed
over (which, of course, was also an attempt to mock the Lord, his God).
Fastened between two stone pillars Samson prayed for forgiveness - and asked
for just one more instance of his great strength in order that he could pull
down the roof pillars and destroy he temple.
Thus, in his death, he killed more Philistines than he had slain in life!.
Here is a message for the church! - they do not even realise that the spirit
has gone from us!. They talk of revival and power - yet do not appreciate
that, metaphorically, their hair is shorn and their strength gone!.
Thus, the Gospel is mocked and derided by those who claim that God either
never existed or is dead!.
But, be certain that the time is fast approaching when Christians will pray
for one last visitation of the Holy Spirit! - and will, as it were, pull
down the central pillars of this world!.
The time of the end IS fast approaching! - nuclear destruction and the
return of the Lord Jesus Christ are more certain than tomorrow's sunrise!. -
how can you read the end time prophecies and still deny that they are being
fulfilled even as you and I watch?!.
regards
Rev Love
Rev Stapleton S Love
Stryder wrote in message ...
>Your God, Yahweh, is Biblically recorded as a God of Storms and War, a
>Midianitte God who was trapped on a mountain in the middle of the
>desert. It wasn't until he commanded the Ark of the Covenant to be
>built that he travelled, in the Ark. Some almighty God you have,
>needs a taxi to get around.
He is the Alpha and the Omega, He flung out the Stars and constellations by
the Word of His power, He is Timeless and Unchanging.
He created ALL things, He raises up and He casts down according to His will,
all creation, both physical and spiritual is subject to Him.
He is worshipped constantly by Cherubim and Seraphim of incalculable power.
'His chariots of wrath the deep thunder clouds form and dark is His path on
the wings of the storm'.
He took on the form of man and hung naked upon a cross to pay the price of
our sin because of his love for us all.
His blood cleanses from all sin, no demon, no devil, no angel of darkness,
no malevolent spirit can withstand the Name of Jesus or harm anyone who
claims the protection of His blood.
He will return again at the end of Time to take His people, both living and
dead, home to dwell with him for eternity.
That is why you hate and fear him.
Rev Stapleton S Love
Sean MacUisdin wrote in message <37F53302...@home.com>...
>Amy Byrd wrote:
>>
>> I have been reading this dialogue for a good while now...and I have kept
my
>> silence, as is befitting of an apprentice. But Reverend...in all of your
>> posts, you have always been very eager to tell us of your "conquests" if
you
>> will. You have spoken over and over of converting, and praying for
others.
>> You have evaded all attempts to initiate an actual discussion, and
foregone
>> them for a childish spew of banter unbecoming of anyone claiming to be a
>> member of any manner of clergy.
>>
>> If you want to be serious, I would like to take you on as my first civil
>> discussion of theology. But if you want to keep on with this display,
then
>> you may go back to the fabricated delusion of hell you hold so dear for
us
>> "heathens," and you may burn in it.
>>
>> amy
>
>
>The 'reverend' is not a reverend, nor is he a Christian. It is one of
>many online personas. 'Phil' is merely a sad little man with a wide
>variety of social problems. He is the saddest kind of troll. You cannot
>argue with him, and you cannot debate with him. Insulting him only gives
>the 'puir wee man' the attention he cannot find in reality. He is a sad
>kind pat on the head once in a while, he may go elsewhere to play.
Which (roughly translated from the Gaelic) means:
'Oh Shit! - here is a Troll that I'm never going to able to beat. My best
plan is to attempt to ridicule him'
Sorry, my little Scottish soldier, that's already been tried (tried
countless times!) without success. The fact is, I like it here and I have
decided to stay awhile.
OK?
BMW
Rev Stapleton S Love <r...@stapletonslove.junglelink.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7t5uhs$28a$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >>
> >> y gwir yn erbyn byd
> >> amy
>
>
> 'Oh Shit! - here is a Troll that I'm never going to able to beat. My best
> plan is to attempt to ridicule him'
>
> Sorry, my little Scottish soldier, that's already been tried (tried
> countless times!) without success. The fact is, I like it here and I have
> decided to stay awhile.
>
> OK?
That's Cymraeg not Gaelic Rev, get your languages right.
Rev. Stapleton S Love
Stryder wrote in message <2tr2N5btfvCdI7...@4ax.com>...
, the sooner we can reinstate 'enlightenment' and
>'brotherly love'.
Interestingly, the Bible says that "God IS Love" (my capitals for emphasis)
Note, not 'Loving' or 'Full of Love' - but, 'Love', itself!.
Thus, without God there can be NO 'love' whatsoever.
If you look at you family members and feel love and affection for them, you
are able to do so ONLY because of the residual presence of God in this
world!.
After the Judgement - when those who reject Him are separated from Him for
ever, there will be NO 'love' whatsoever! - only Hate, Malice and Terrible
Fear!.
Where will you spend eternity?.