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Thai Army storms Mosque in Southern Thailand -- Muslims attended Friday
prayers across restive southern Thailand as troops stepped up the hunt for
what officials said could be thousands of Islamic separatists.
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=5002680

"Slap on the wrist" to handful of soldiers involved in torture and
degradation of Iraqi prisonersthat shows military authorities are incapable
of correcting a situation that may have already caused irreparable harm to
America's image in the Muslim world -- possibly as intended by the Zionist
military brass who let it happen. See:
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040510fa_fact


Army Orders Medical Management for Personnel Exposed to 'Depleted' Uranium
(DU) But not for the Iraqis who have all been exposed and are terrified
http://www.traprockpeace.org/du_medmgmt_otsg.pdf

Pussy diplomats, too little and too late: " Your unqualified support of
Sharon's extra-judicial assassinations, Israel's Berlin Wall-like barrier,
its harsh military measures in occupied territories, and now your
endorsement of Sharon's unilateral plan are costing our country its
credibility, prestige and friends." Like, duh! These are the same elitist
snobs who ignored the very same warnings likes of the nobodys.
http://tinyurl.com/3dal6


Charley Reese: The Bush administration's real beef with the Arab
television station Al-Jazeera is really nothing more than the fact that
Al-Jazeera shows the bodies. -- No, the Bush administration doesn't want
you to see the bodies - not the bodies of our men and women, and not the
bodies of Iraqi men, women and children. The administration wants you to see
the war as an electronic game with bright lights in the distance and good
sound effects, or close-ups of our brave warriors firing their guns at an
invisible enemy. It doesn't want you to see the torn flesh, blood,
intestines, feces, urine. If you did, you might not support the war, and
billions of dollars depend on your support. -- The government line is that
if you don't approve of the war, you are disloyal. -- If you don't agree
to give the Pentagon whatever it says it wants, you are disloyal. If you
don't agree to surrender your civil liberties to the Patriot Act, you are
disloyal. If you disagree with the Bush administration, you are disloyal. If
you disagree with the chicken-hawk demagogues on radio and television,
blathering about the war from the safety of their studios, you are
isloyal. -- This entire glorification of war - as if the whole and only
purpose of the government and the country were to fight wars - smells of
fascism. The news media glorify the war and militarism; we get the same dose
on television, in the movies and in video games. If the American people
aren't careful, they will wake up one day to find out they've become a
nation of mindless heel-clickers. Moore
http://www.lewrockwell.com/reese/reese67.html


US military policemen moved unregistered Iraqi prisoners, known as "ghost
detainees", around an army-run jail at Abu Ghraib, in order to hide them
from the Red Cross, according to a confidential military report.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1209681,00.html

UK: former soldier has gone on hunger strike in an attempt to secure a
public
inquiry into Gulf War Syndrome.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/3682525.stm


American officials in India said they were looking into allegations that
Indian civilians working for the US military in Iraq were being forced to
work like"slaves" in US military camps. Reports published in leading
national dailies on Tuesday quoted two Indian brothers, employed in American
military camps in Iraq, as saying US troops abused them and made them work
long hours with little food. "We were slaves in American kitchens. We
barely got two hours of sleep," one of the brothers, Hameed, told the
Hindustan Times paper in Kollam in southern Kerala state. More:
http://tinyurl.com/2x577


A Canadian civilian says in a lawsuit that he was tortured by U.S. troops in
Iraq and saw Iraqi prisoners suffer even worse mistreatment - the latest
allegations of human rights abuses to surface against coalition soldiers.
http://tinyurl.com/2gzvz


Hired Guns with War Crimes Past -- When a suicide bomber parked a van
disguised as an ambulance in front of the Shaheen Hotel in the Karadah
neighborhood of Baghdad on Jan. 28 and blew himself up, he killed four
people and wounded scores of others. He also blew the lid off a dirty little
secret of the Coalition Provisional Authority: Due to its "outsourcing" of
privatized security services, the CPA has put terrorists, mercenaries and
war criminals on the payrolls of companies contracted by the Pentagon. --
After the Shaheen Hotel blast, departmental spokesman Ronnie Mamoepa at
South Africa's Foreign Ministry confirmed that one of the Westerners killed
was South African Frans Strydom. Four of the wounded were also South African
nationals, including Deon Gouws, who sustained serious injuries. -- News
that Strydom and Gouws were in Iraq sent shockwaves throughout South Africa:
In front of the South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission, both men
were granted amnesty after confessing to killing blacks and terrorizing
anti-apartheid activists, acts that can only be called crimes against
humanity.
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=18588


Afghan Prisoner Deaths Investigated -- Human rights groups have strongly
criticized the military for its near-silence about the December 2002 deaths
of two Afghan men at a heavily guarded holding facility at Bagram Air Base,
north of Kabul. -- The slow pace of the investigation has left the American
military facing damaging publicity on two fronts as it confronts new
allegations of prisoner abuse in Iraq. -- "The investigation is ongoing due
in large measure to the complexities associated with gathering evidence and
interviewing persons who might have had access to the facility that have
long since departed Afghanistan and in some cases departed the Army,"
military spokeswoman Lt. Col. Michele DeWerth told The Associated Press. --
"Based on interim inquiries, we have modified our procedures in the
facility," she said in an e-mailed response to an AP question. -- She
didn't indicate what the inquiries revealed or give any indication how
procedures have changed.
http://tinyurl.com/yrmq9


The alleged abuse of Iraqi prisoners by US military police violates the
rules governing armed conflict, says Anthony Dworkin
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1208936,00.html


Troubled oil group Shell intends "to establish a material and enduring
presence in Iraq" in an attempt to rebuild the firm's depleted reserves and
foster the long term future of the country's energy sector.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1208882,00.html


The American's wanted to see us get tough on terrorists. The power of
Zionist-controlled American "approval" insentive for murder frame-up in
Macedonia. Police in Macedonia said yesterday that the killing of seven
alleged terrorists two years ago was staged to win US support and that the
victims were simply illegal immigrants. Mirjana Konteska, a police
spokeswoman, said that six people, including three former police
commanders, two special police officers and a businessman, have been
charged with murder. "That was an act of a sick mind," she said. "They
ordered the brutal murder of seven Pakistani men." Yet these seven are
counted as known terrorist cases by Moslem's, as is the 9-11 Zionist-op
frame-up.
http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=517023


The one good thing in all of this is that there are soldiers in the US and
British armies who could not live with what was happening and who blew the
whistle. The world needs to see the photos coming out of Iraq not as
"deviant" but as an authentic message from the heart of the thought system
that is seeking to control our planet.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1209846,00.html

Pretoria - "You are not white enough to go to court," a policeman apparently
told a Johannesburg man who had just been freed after 23 days without
rial. -- The Johannesburg man was freed on Friday. -- Mohammed Hendi, 36,
of Newclare denies al-Qaeda connections, which he said he was confronted
with during questioning. -- He was freed shortly before the High Court was
to hear
an urgent application for his release. -- Hendi claims his ordeal started
when he was invited by an Egyptian man to attend a discussion and watch a
DVD on the September 11 2001 attacks in the United States.
http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_1517123,00.html


Before he was elected, and perhaps in order to ensure his election by the
Zionist media opinion molders, President Bush put together his team, a war
with Iraq was locked in. Men like Vice President Dick Cheney, Defense
Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had made up their minds that invasion was
essential. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz had written the plan for
invasion in 1996.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6113.htm


Sharon has been a puppet too, albeit a "Punch" puppet -- Sharon is now
politically wounded animal, and as such is more dangerous than ever. His
Plan is dead. He is incapable of getting another plan adopted. He is
powerless to evacuate even one single settlement. His sole way out is to
embark on spectacular military operations. There is no limit to the bloody
deeds he may now launch in order to
survive.
www.gush-shalom.org/

"Human Resource Exploitation Training Manual -- 1983" was released Friday in
response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed by The
Baltimore Sun on May 26, 1994. The CIA also declassified a Vietnam-era
training manual called "KUBARK Counterintelligence Interrogation -- July
1963," which also taught torture and is believed by intelligence sources to
have been a basis for the 1983 manual. --Torture methods taught in the 1983
manual include stripping suspects naked and keeping them blindfolded.
Interrogation rooms should be windowless, dark and soundproof, with no
toilet. -- "The `questioning' room is the battlefield upon which the
`questioner' and the subject meet," the 1983 manual states. "However, the
`questioner' has the advantage in that he has total control over the subject
and his environment." --The 1983 manual was altered between 1984 and early
1985 to discourage torture after a furor was raised in Congress and the
press about CIA training techniques being used in Central America. -- Those
alterations and new instructions appear in the documents obtained by The
Sun, support the conclusion that methods taught in the earlier version were
illegal. --A cover sheet placed in the manual in March 1985 cautions: "The
use of force, mental torture, threats, insults or exposure to inhumane
treatment of any kind as an aid to interrogation is prohibited by law, both
international and domestic; it is neither authorized nor condoned."

Surf over on the Web to marketplace.org and watch the "Cost of the War in
Iraq" ticker click along at about $520 a second. This week, the total was
chugging past $112 billion, including military and reconstruction costs. Too
much of that money is being stolen. --New looting in Iraq costs US
taxpayers billions -- Surf over on the Web to marketplace.org and watch
the "Cost of the War in Iraq" ticker click along at about $520 a second.
This week, the total was chugging past $112 billion, including military and
reconstruction costs. Too much of that money is being stolen. Marketplace, a
Minnesota Public Radio program, reported last week on rampant corruption in
the Iraqi rebuilding effort. "Americans are footing a $20 billion tab to
build schools, bridges, houses and power grids in Iraq." Marketplace found
that "millions, possibly billions, of taxpayer dollars are disappearing in a
web of bribes, kickbacks and price-gouging." Some examples:
http://tinyurl.com/2ljet

Sharon not tough enough for Likud? Sharon has been the spiritual leader of
the Israeli far right. But those years of dedicated service counted for
nought on Sunday, when members of his own Likud party rejected him in a
referendum, rebuffing him as too much of a peacenik for their tastes. --
His crime was to propose that Israel withdraw fully from the Gaza strip,
pulling out its troops and, crucially, its illegal settlements. In return,
he told his party, he had won a great prize: American permission for Israel
to retain its hold over large chunks of the West Bank. But that was not good
enough for the fire-breathers of the settler movement, who regard every inch
of what they call Greater Israel as divinely promised turf, too holy to give
up. They persuaded the Likud to reject their own leader by 60% to 40%.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1209696,00.html

Lawyers representing 14 Iraqi families with loved-ones allegedly killed by
British soldiers are lodging papers at the High Court in London seeking a
judicial review.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-1098872,00.html


Duct tape over eyes to replace black hoods for prisoners in Iraq, after
unfavorable publicity has made the hoods an issue. See:
http://tinyurl.com/2rt8j


More than two months after a classified Army report found that two contract
workers were implicated in the abuse of Iraqis at a prison outside Baghdad,
the companies that employ them say that they have heard nothing from the
Pentagon, and that they have not removed any employees from Iraq.
http://tinyurl.com/yv8b2

A list of the explusions of Jews from different countries throughout
recorded history is making its rounds on the internet. I suppose the
purpose is to make a suggestion, now that there is widespread awareness that
9-11 and the "Frame-Up Wars" (there can be no other name for them) were
given to the world by Zionist Machiavellians. So people hint at expelling
the Jews from the US.

Except that we all die before such a thing can be accomplished.

If I thought it would do any good, I would write up a counter list, showing
all of the civilizations that bit the dust as a result of the eternally
subversive Jew -- from Rahab hollowing out the walls of Jericho to Richard
Perle and Paul Wolfowtiz and the west wall of the Pentagon.

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The ZIonist billionaires (the bankers who own the world and against whom we
can only whine) have arranged things so that the plug can be pulled on life
support for the entire United States. We have a population with no visible
means of support that has been living on credit, selling its assets,
exporting its investment capital and its natural resources to other
countries, exporting its capital even as the creditor bankers have dumbed
down the people and emptied the libraries into land fills -- even as the
computer -- everyones source of knowledge these days, can now be unplugged
as easily as food, water, electricity and extended credit.

You want to expel Jews? The Zionist masters know it and are already in the
process of killing you first and they are too concerned about their own
risk to worry about collateral damage to the still sleeping majority.

Quite simply we know too much and are all dead meat -- and they have your
minds under too-effective control to respond to any warnings like this one.
One little internet team of Zionist disinfo guys can keep a thousand minds
in chains on an anti-war list. One Webfairy can disable a John Kaminski.
The nation needs a hero -- a hero being, by definition, one who can do what
no one else is able to do, what no one else is willing to try to do.

Kerry you say? I'm sorry -- the dumbdown and the general incapacitation
has gone too far for you to save yourselves. What? You think the
Democratic label is going to take care of you? You think you are too good
to die? You think that since your civilization hasn't fallen yet , that it
cannot fall and fall soon? You think America and Western liberalism is to
great to go under like every civilization before us in history?


If your daughters are good looking, have them learn some Chinese and to give
good head and they may make it, sort of. The Rockefellers and Rothschilds
etc. have prepared China to destroy you, to foreclose on your failed
government and on your own household, belongings and lives. China will be
the liquidators -- their observers are taking in all the lessons of Iraq
for use in the United States. What goes around comes around.

Remember I wrote this? (You never commented on it, so maybe you need to
read it again.)

Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish new year, called in the Talmud and Midrash the
Day of Judgement, but also,The Day of Awe, was celebrated on September 11,
opening the lunar year 5762 (1999), but seven days later in 2001. On Rosh
Hashanah the Shofar (ram's horn) is blown, according to Talmud, in order to
confuse Satan and his hosts.

The attack on Iraq was begun on the day of Purim -- it is the day
celebrating the events in the Book of Esther in the Hebrew scriptures.
Esther was a nightclub dancer who did bumps and grinds for Persian king
Ahasuerus (Aratxerxes II?) who immediately dumped his frigid first wife (who
wouldn't dance at his parties) whereun she was able to thwart the plan of
wicked Hamon, the anti-Semitic guy, through her inside connections and a
tip-off from a local investment banker, Mordecai. Haman, after being made
to lead Mordecai, mounted on a horse in pomp and splender, around town
heralding Mordecai, as the Kings great favorite -- and soon after,
Esther, at Mordecai's word, informed the king that Haman was out to get all
the Hebrews in the land, and, that she herself was to be one of his victims
and added, rubbing her breasts against his beard, suggested that Haman and a
list of all his gang that she just happened to have with were the cause of
everybody's problems.

From the Megillah:

"While they were still conversing with him, the king's eunuchs arrived and
conducted Haman quickly to the banquet that Esther had prepared. The king
and Haman went to Queen Esther's banquet and again on the second day, while
they were drinking wine, the king asked Esther, "What is your petition,
Queen Esther? It will be granted you. What is your request? If it were
half the kingdom. It shall be executed."

"Queen Esther replied, "If I have won favor, O king, and if it pleases
your majesty, then may my life be granted me at my petiton and my people at
my request; because we have been sold, I and my people, to be destroyed, to
be killed, to be obliterated. Had we merely been sold as male and female
slaves, I would have kept still; although the enemy cannot compensate for
the damage this will work to the king.
"King Ahasuerus spoke up. He said to Queen Esther, "Who is he, and
where is the person who dared contemplate such a thing?" Esther replied,
"An oppressor, an enemy, this wicked Haman!" Then Haman was in terror at
the looks of the King and Queen. ANgrily the king arose from his wine and
walked into the palace garden; but Haman remained standing to plead with
Queen Esther for his life; because he saw that utter ruin had been decided
against him by the king.
"When the king came back from the palace garden to the banqueting hall,
Haman had dropped down on the courch on which Esther was reclining, and the
king remarked, "Violating the queen before me in my house!" No sooner had
the word left the king's lips than they covered Haman's face. Harbonah, one
of the eunuchs in waiting on the king, observed, "Then there is the gallows,
75 feet high, standing at Haman's hourse, which he errected erected for
Mordecai, who spoke on behalf of the king.

"Hang him on it," said the king. So they hanged Haman on the gallows he
had set up for Mordecai. And the king's anger calmed down. On that same
day King Ahasuerus transferred to Queen Esther the belongings of Haman, the
Jew-hater, and Mordecai became the king's right-hand man; for Esther had
made known how they were related. The king took off his signet ring, which
he had taken back from Haman and gave it to Mordecai; while Esther appointed
Mordecai in charge of the Haman affairs.

"Once ,more Esther addressed the king, fell at his feet with tears begged
of him to frustrate the wicked plot of Haman that Agagite and the scheme he
had framed against the Jews. The king held out the golden scepter to
Esther, so that Esther arose, stood before the king, and said: "If it
pleases your majesty and I am in your good graces, if it seems right in the
king's judgement and I am pleasing him, then let a dispatch be issued to
revers the letters with the scheme that Haman the son of Hammedatha the
Agagite concocted, written to destroy all the Jews in your majesty's
provinces. For how could I look on while disaster strikes my people, and
how, Oh, how, could I bear the ruin of my race!"

"King Ahasuerus then told Esther and Mordecai the Jew, "Look! I have handed
Haman's belongings over to Esther, and im they have hanged on the gallows;
because he would lay hand on the Jews. Now you yourselves write for the
Jews as you think best, in the king's name and seal it with the royal signet
ring; for a document that is written in the king's name is sealed with the
royal signet ring no one may reverse."

"The royal scribes were immediately summoned, that twenty-third day of the
third month, the month Sivan. As Mordecai ordered, so the dispatch was
written to the Jews, to the deputies, to the governors and to the princes of
the provinces from India to Ethopia, 127 provinces, to each province in its
own script, to each people in their own language, and tothe Jews, too, in
their own writing and tongue.

"They wrote in the name of King Ahasuerus, sealed it with his signet ring
and sent the letters by swift post riding on royal horses and muels, raised
from young mares, to the effect that the king gave the Jews in all cities
permission to unite for the defense of their lives; also to destroy, kill,
and exterminate all forces of people and provinces that armed against them,
including women and children, and to take over their property, all on an
appointed day in all the provinces of King Ahasuerus, the theirteen day of
the twelfth month, the month Adar. A copy of this letter, which in all the
provinces must bve executed as law, must be brought to the knowledge of all
the peoples, and the Jews must be ready against that day to get the better
of their enemeies. So the swift posts, riding royal horses, sped forth,
hastened by the king's command, when the mandate had been proclaimed from
the Shushan palace. Mordecai went out from the king's presence wearing
royal robes, blue and white, a large golden diadem, and a pruple robe of
fine linen. THe sity of Shushang shouted and was glad; for the Jews had
there was illumination and happiness, enjoyment and honour. Similarly in
province after province and in every city whereever the king's mandate and
decree penetrated, the Jews had joy and gladness, feat and frolic. And many
among the people of the land called themselves Jews, because fear of the
Jews had overtaken them." (Book of Esther, from Chapters 5-8)

The celebration of Purim, tells Jews that tyrants and fanatics can be
defeated if you use your head and cultivate the right connections.

Draw your own conclusions.

Pesach ( Passover, Festival of Freedom) celebrates the Angel of Death
coming over Egypt and killing the first born of every gentile, passing the
Jewish houses marked with blood on posts and lentels of their doors. A
celebration prepared for, in part, by removing all mycota fungi (yeast)
from Jewish houses and diets. The leader in the celebration at one point
raises a cup and declares: "Not only once have they risen to destroy us,
but in every generation,: and "But the Holy One, blessed be he, always
delivers us from their hands."

And so I see a selective plague, attacking only those who did not eat the
yeast available in the Egyptian markets. I note too that, generations
before Joseph ,was put in charge of the grain food supply of all Egypt --
but in the days of Moses Jews worked as slaves and presumably were not
bared from food-production toil. I see Moses as a leader of a great
sabotage and information warfare againt Egypt. (I also have concluded that
the walls of Jericho fell because the prostitute Rahab, had men working in
the walls of the city with shovels to bring them down as the Hebrews marched
around the city blowing horns to create a distraction -- her brothel being,
according to scripture, built in the wall. Also, when Joshua crossed
Jordan, the Jordan "dried up" -- actually the river was divered by Hebrew
engineers up stream -- the part about Jehovah doing it was pure "psy-op".
Also, when the prophet Elijah poured "water" on his alter and, in a
challenge to the 400 priests of Baal, told them to try and call down fire
from heaven like he was going to do, the water was actually crude oil --
after all, this happened in the Middle East, crude can be lit when it
comes out of the ground -- one of the great "magicians secrets" of the
times) -- and it looks like dirty water (I have worked with it as a
roustabout in Texas fitting oil pipe and painting oil holders, and I have
done this with crude) -- so Elijah called down the fire, after the priests
of Baal failed to do so, and the Bible actually says that "the flames licked
up the water"

From 1 Kings, Chapter 18: "He errected an altar with the stones to the name
of the Jehovah. He dug a trench around the altar big enough to hold two
bushels of seed. Next he arranged the wood, cut up the bullock, and laid it
on the wood. Then he said, "Fill four jars with water and pour it over the
sacrifice and over the wood." note: This is definitley NOT a practice
called for in the very particular formulae for a proper sacrifice -- and
remember what Jehovah does to those who don't follow the rules (touch the
arc, enter the holy of holies, or disobey and of the ritual prescriptions of
Mosaic Law!) He said, "Do it again," and they did it again." 9Ever pour on
extra charcoal fluid on your barbacue? always a little extra for good
measure!) He said, "Do it a third time," and they did it a third time, so
that the water ran all around the altar and the trench was full of water,
too.
"At the time for the sacrifice, Elijah the prophet came up and said, "O
Jehovah, God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, today let it be known that Thou
art God in Israel, that I am They servant, and that I have done all this in
accordance with Thy word. Here me, O Jehovah, hear me, that this people may
see that Thou, O Jehovah, art God and that Thou hast turned their heats back
again." THen fire from Jehovah came down and burned up the sacrifice, the
wood, the stones, and the dust; it even licked up the water in the trench."
get the picture? Now back to Pesach or Passover which this year falls on
April 17, 2003.

The group of men who planned the 9-11 mass-murder frameup that occured just
before Rosh Hashanah, and who arranged that operation "Shock and Awe" would
occur on Purim, March 18, 2003 (as Israeli radio was predicting before the
event, claiming that Israeli intelligence had picked up US military
transmissions).


REMEMBER, RUMSFLED, PERLE, WOLFOWITZ, KISSINGER, MYERS, FANKS, ETC. ARE
ENEMY INFILTRATION WORKING FOR ZIONISM, FOR THE MERCHANT BANKING HOUSES THAT
ARE THE CREDITORS OF THE WORLD AND THEIR ALLIES THE TRIAD PRINCELINGS, WHO
WHEN WEARING THE HATS OF COMMUNIST BOSSES WHO ARE THE LARGEST
MASS-MURDERERS IN HISTORY -- THERE GOAL IS TO HAVE AMERICAN SOLDIERS
DECIMATED IN STREET COMBATE THROUGHOUT THE ISLAMIC MIDEAST AND CENTRAL
SIA -- PLAYING WESTERN FREEDOM AND POLITICAL EQUALITY AGAINST MOSLEM FAITH
IN ONE GOD (NO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, THAT'S THE POINT -- BOTH SIDES ARE
TRICKED).

Sharon and Mossad linked to Wolfowitz-Perle-Rumsfeld-Kissinger in 9-11
frame-up. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pentagon911/message/187


250 C.E. Canhage Expulsion
224 C.E. Italy Forced Conversion
325 C.E. Jerusalem Expulsion
351 C.E Persia Book Burning
357 C.E. Italy Property Confiscation
379 C.E. Milan Synagogue Burning
415 C.E. Alexandria Expulsion
418 C.E. Minorca Forced Conversion
469 C.E. Ipahan Holocaust
489 C.E. Antioch Synagogue Burning
506 C.E. Daphne Synagogue Burning
519 C.E. Ravenna Synagogue Burning
554 C.E. Diocese of Clement (France) Expulsion
561 C.E. Diocese of Uzes (France) Expulsion
582 C.E Merovingia Forced Conversion
612 C.E. Visigoth Spain Expulsion
628 C.E. Byzantium Forced Conversion
629 C.E. Merovingia Forced Conversion
633 C.E. Toledo Forced Conversion
638 C.E. Toledo Stake Burnings
642 C.E. Visigothic Empire Expulsion
653 C.E. Toledo Expulsion
681 C.E. Spain Forced Conversion
693 C.E. Toledo Jews Enslaved
722 C.E. Byzantium Judaism Outlawed
855 C.E. Italy Expulsion
876 C.E. Sens Expulsion
897 C.E. Narbonne Land Confiscation
945 C.E. Venice Ban on Sea Travel
1009 C.E. Orleans Massacre
1012 C.E. Rouen, Limoges & Rome Massacre
1012 C.E. Mayence Expulsion
1021 C.E. Rome Jews Burned Alive
1063 C.E. Spain Massacre
1095 C.E. Lorraine Massacre
1096 C.E. Northern France & Germany 1/3 of Jewish Population Massacred
1096 C.E. Hungary Massacre
1096 C.E. Ralisbon Massacre
1099 C.E. Jerusalem Jews Burned Alive
1100 C.E. Kiev Pogrom
1140 C.E. Germany Massacres
1146 C.E. Rhine Valley Massacre
1147 C.E. Wurzburg Massacre
1147 C.E. Belitz (Germany) Jews Burned Alive
1147 C.E. Carenton, Ramenu & Sully (France) Massacres
1171 C.E. Blois Stake Burnings
1181 C.E. France Expulsion
1181 C.E. England Property Confiscation
1188 C.E. London & York Mob Attacks
1190 C.E. Norfolk Jews Burned Alive
1191 C.E. Bray (France) Jews Burned Alive
1195 C.E. France Property Confiscation
1209 C.E. Beziers Massacre
1215 C.E. Rome Jews Forced to Wear Badges
1215 C.E. Toulouse (France) Mass Arrests
1218 C.E. England Jews Forced to Wear Badges
1231 C.E. Rome Inquisition Established
1236 C.E. France Forced Conversion/Massacre
1239 C.E. London Massacre & Property Confiscation
1240 C.E. France Talmud Confiscated
1240 C.E. England Book Burning
1240 C.E. Spain Forced Conversion
1242 C.E. Paris Talmud Burned
1244 C.E. Oxford Mob Attacks
1255 C.E. England Public Hangings
1261 C.E. Canterbury Mob Attacks
1262 C.E. London Mob Attacks
1264 C.E. London Mob Attacks
1267 C.E. Vienna Jews Forced to Wear Horned Hats
1270 C.E. Weissenberg, Magdeburg, Armstadt, Coblenz, Singzig, and Erfurt
Jews Burned Alive
1278 C.E. Genoa (Spain) Mob Attacks
1283 C.E. Mayence & Bacharach Mob Attacks
1285 C.E. Munich Jews Burned Alive
1290 C.E. England Expulsion
1298 C.E. Franconia, Bavaria & Austria 100,000 Jews slaughtered
1306 C.E. France Expulsion
1308 C.E. Strasbourg Jews Burned Alive
1320 C.E. Toulouse & Perpigon 120 Communities Massacred & Talmud Burned
1321 C.E. Teruel Public Executions
1328 C.E. Estella 5,000 Jews Slaughtered
1348 C.E. France & Spain Jews Burned Alive
1348 C.E. Switzerland Expulsion
1349 C.E. Worms, Strasbourg, Oppenheim, Mayence, Erfurt, Bavaria & Swabia
Jews Burned Alive
1349 C.E. Heilbronn (Germany) Expulsion
1349 C.E. Hungary Expulsion
1354 C.E. Castile (Spain) 12,000 Jews Slaughtered
1368 C.E. Toledo 8,000 Jews Slaughtered
1370 C.E. Majorca., Penignon & Barcelona Mob Attack
1377 C.E. Huesca (Spain) Jews Burned Alive
1380 C.E. Paris Mob Attack
1384 C.E. Nordlingen Mass Murder
1388 C.E. Strasbourg Expulsion
1389 C.E. Prague Mass Slaughter & Book Burning
1391 C.E. Castille, Toledo, Madrid, Seville, Cordova, Cuenca & Barcelona
Forced Conversions & Mass Murder
1394 C.E. Germany Expulsion
1394 C.E. France Expulsion
1399 C.E. Posen (Poland) Jews Burned Alive
1400 C.E. Prague Stake Burnings
1407 C.E. Cracow Mob Attack
1415 C.E. Rome Talmud Confiscated
1422 C.E. Austria Jews Burned Alive
1422 C.E. Austria Expulsion
1424 C.E. Fribourg & Zurich Expulsion
1426 C.E. Cologne Expulsion
1431 C.E. Southern Germany Jews Burned Alive
1432 C.E. Savory Expulsion
1438 C.E. Mainz Expulsion
1439 C.E. Augsburg Expulsion
1449 C.E. Toledo Public Torture &. Burnings
1456 C.E. Bavaria Expulsion
1453 C.E. Franconia Expulsion
1453 C.E. Breslau Expulsion
1454 C.E. Wurzburg Expulsion
1463 C.E. Cracow Mob Attack
1473 C.E. Andalusia Mob Attack
1480 C.E. Venice Jews Burned Alive
1481 C.E. Seville Stake Burnings
1484 C.E. Cuidad Real, Guadalupe, Saragossa & Teruel Jews Burned Alive
1485 C.E. Vincenza (Italy) Expulsion
1486 C.E. Toledo Jews Burned Alive
1488 C.E. Toledo Stake Burnings
1490 C.E. Toledo Public Executions
1491 C.E. Astorga Public Torture & Execution
1492 C.E. Spain Expulsion
1495 C.E. Lithuania Expulsion
1497 C.E. Portugal Expulsion
1499 C.E. Germany Expulsion
1506 C.E. Lisbon Mob Attack
1510 C.E. Berlin Public Torture & Execution
1514 C.E. Strasbourg Expulsion
1519 C.E. Regensburg Expulsion
1539 C.E. Cracow & Portugal Stake Burnings
1540 C.E. Naples Expulsion
1542 C.E. Bohemia Expulsion
1550 C.E. Genoa Expulsion
1551 C.E. Bavaria Expulsion
1555 C.E. Pesaro Expulsion
1556 C.E. Sokhachev (Poland) Public Torture & Execution
1559 C.E. Austria Expulsion
1561 C.E. Prague Expulsion
1567 C.E. Wurzburg Expulsion
1569 C.E. Papal States Expulsion
1571 C.E. Brandenburg Expulsion
1582 C.E. Netherlands Expulsion
1593 C.E. Brunswick Expulsion
1597 C.E. Cremona, Pavia & Lodi Expulsion
1614 C.E. Frankfort Expulsion
1615 C.E. Worms Expulsion
1619 C.E. Kiev Expulsion
1635 C.E. Vilna Mob Attack
1637 C.E. Cracow Public Torture & Execution
1647 C.E. Lisbon Jews Burned Alive
1648 C.E. Poland 1/3 of Jewry Slaughtered
1649 C.E. Ukraine Expulsion
1649 C.E. Hamburg Expulsion
1652 C.E. Lisbon Stake Burnings
1654 C.E. Little Russia Expulsion
1656 C.E. Lithuania Expulsion
1660 C.E. Seville Jews Burned Alive
1663 C.E Cracow Public Torture &. Execution
1664 C.E. Lemberg Mob Attack
1669 C.E. Oran (North Africa) Expulsion
1670 C.E. Vienna Expulsion
1671 C.E. Minsk Mob Attacks
1681 C.E. Vilna Mob Attacks
1682 C.E. Cracow Mob Attacks
1687 C.E. Posen Mob Attacks
1712 C.E. Sandomir Expulsion
1727 C.E. Russia Expulsion
1738 C.E. Wurtemburg Expulsion
1740 C.E. Liule Russia Expulsion
1744 C.E. Bohemia Expulsion
1744 C.E. Livonia Expulsion
1745 C.E. Moravia Expulsion
1753 C.E. Kovad (Lithuania) Expulsion
1757 C.E. Kamenetz Talmud Burning
1761 C.E. Bordeaux Expulsion
1768 C.E. Kiev 3,000 Jews Slaughtered
1772 C.E. Russia Expulsion
1775 C.E. Warsaw Expulsion
1789 C.E. Alsace Expulsion
1801 C.E. Bucharest Mob Attack
1804 C.E. Russian Villages Expulsion
1808 C.E. Russian Countryside Expulsion
1815 C.E. Lubeck & Bremen Expulsion
1820 C.E. Bremes Expulsion
1843 C.E. Austria & Prussia Expulsion
1850 C.E. New York City 500 People, Led by Police, Attacked &. Wrecked,
Jewish Synagogue
1862 C.E. Area under General Grant's Jurisdiction in the United States
Expulsion
1866 C.E Galatz (Romania) Expulsion
1871 C.E. Odena Mob Attack
1887 C.E. Slovakia Mob Attacks
1897 C.E. Kantakuzenka (Russia) Mob Attacks
1898 C.E. Rennes (France) Mob Attack
1899 C.E. Nicholayev Mob Attack
1900 C.E. Konitz (Prussia) Mob Attack
1902 C.E. Poland Widespread Pogroms
1904 C.E. Manchuria, Kiev & Volhynia Widespread Pogroms
1905 C.E. Zhitomir (Yolhynia) Mob Attacks
1919 C.E Bavaria Expulsion
1915 C.E. Georgia (U.S.A.) Leo Frank Lynched
1919 C.E. Prague Wide Spread Pogroms
1920 C.E. Munich & Breslau Mob Attacks
1922 C.E. Boston, MA Lawrence Lowell, President of Harvard, calls for Quota
Restrictions on Jewish Admission
1926 C.E. Uzbekistan Pogrom
1928 C.E. Hungary Widespread Anti-Semitic Riots on University Campuses
1929 C.E. Lemberg (Poland) Mob Attacks
1930 C.E. Berlin Mob Attack
1933 C.E. Bucharest Mob Attacks
1938-45 C.E. Europe Holocaust

----------------

Bush told you he'll put FOREIGN TROOPS on the streets, and you did
nothing. Think those troops aren't here yet? WRONG. They are in encampments
NOW, located in off-limits area of public lands in forests in the mid-west
and west. People have asked them on the streets what they are doing here,
because they openly wear their uniforms. The answer is, "we are here
training to take your guns." What did you do about this? Nothing. Do you
REALLY want a Russian, a Mexican, a German or French soldier kicking in
your front door, just to do a routine search? And when this comes to pass -
you won't even be able to go to the store to buy a new door, either. This
will happen under condition RED.
http://www.rense.com/general52/couch.htm

The torture and humiliation of Iraqi prisoners, captured on camera in a US
run Baghdad prison, was controlled and devised by US agencies including the
CIA, a lawyer claimed today.
http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=44090792&p=44x9yx94


US SOLDIERS took part in the torture of Taleban prisoners and may have had a
role in the "disappearance" of around 3,000 men in Mazar-i-Sharif
innorth-west Afghanistan, according to a new documentary.
http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=648372002


Depleted Uranium deaths could surpass worst-case predictions -- It is not
only Iraq but poor American soldiers are also making a silent way to their
own death. -- The Pentagon has just announced that 18,000 American troops
were medically evacuated from Iraq during the first year of operations
there. Thousands more have been sickened and maimed in Afghanistan since
2001. No one knows how many U.S. troops have actually died in these two
quagmires, because the Pentagon cooks the books by listing the not quite
dead as "wounded
http://proliberty.com/observer/20040410.htm

Al-Jazeerah and al-Arabiya have shown a lot of uncensored and explicit
images from Iraq, including the bloody siege of Fallujah (which W. had
personally ordered), and the recently released photographs of prison abuse
in Iraq. Allam notes that the US alternative, al-Hurra, provides less than
an hour of hard news per day, and is widely ridiculed in Iraq as the
gardening channel because of the domestic-American-style pablum in which it
specializes.
http://www.juancole.com/


Queen's Lancashire Regiment Regiment (QLR) wanted for murder.
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=404&id=510762004


Donald Rumsfeld, the US defence secretary, said he was horrified by the
images of prisoners being mistreated by US forces. Army officials said that
the military had investigated the deaths of 25 prisoners held by US forces
in Iraq and Afghanistan and determined that an army soldier and a CIA
contractor murdered two prisoners. Most of the deaths occurred in Iraq.
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=510312004


We kill them because they are Moslems. -- Islam itself has become the
issue, rather than terrorism, dictatorship, slavery in the Sudan or cultural
roles of women. Nothing shows up the shallowness of the American
neo-conservatives better than the choice of a French Catholic, Professor
Alain Besancon, to fire a first salvo against Islam in the May issue of
their flagship journal, Commentary. His essay, "What Kind of Religion is
Islam", re-states the millennium-old Christian case against Muslim theology,
while barely hinting at why theology has any bearing on the civilizational
conflict now under way.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/FE04Aa01.html


The American elite does not tolerate the inferior, mean those they have
oppressed into penury. An historical example -- The kids had been labeled
feeble-minded, and were put away in conditions that can only be described as
unspeakable. Now, a new book, "The State Boys Rebellion," by Michael
D'Antonio, reveals even more: A large proportion of the kids who were locked
up were not retarded at all. They were simply poor, uneducated kids with no
place to go, who ended up in institutions like the Fernald School in
Waltham, Mass.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/29/60minutes/main614728.shtml


I heard maybe the director of Human Rights Watch being interviewed on radio
this morning saying that a growing number governments around the world, many
without previous records of systemic abuses are turning into brutal tyrants,
citing the US as an example and US permission. So the self-styled global
supercop (really global most-heinous criminal) is not just selling
propagating the goodness, rightness and benefits of war at home, but
worldwide, denying democracy, ensuring its fascist opposite.
(nasf_reachout -- from a letter)

"The pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except
in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of
domestic well-being.

Architect of the Present #2 -- Zbignew Brzezinski wrote:

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may
find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues,
except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct
external threat.

"It is also a fact that America is too democratic at home to be autocratic
abroad. This limits the use of America's power, especially its capacity for
military intimidation. Never before has a populist democracy attained
international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that
commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or
challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic
self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties,
even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to
democratic instincts."

---- Zbigniew Brzezinski, Kissingerian Democrat, from The Grand Chessboard;
American Primacy And It's Geostrategic Imperatives

========

"Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be
dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is
the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and
debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the
domination of the few. In war too, the discretionary power of the Executive
is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is
multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of
subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in
republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the
opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy
of manners and morals, engendered by both. No nation could preserve its
freedom in the midst of continual warfare."
--James Madison, April 20, 1795
(Works. Vol. 4, Pp. 491-2)


"We are going to have a world government, whether you like it or
not--by force or by consent." -- New York banker, James Paul Warberg,
before a Senate
committee hearing, February 19, 1950

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes
me to tremble for the safety of my country. ... corporations have been
enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money
power of the country will endeavour to prolong its reign by working upon the
prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and
the Republic is destroyed." -- A. Lincoln

"The war against terrorism cannot end before Saddam Hussein is out of power
in Iraq"
-- Senator Joseph Lieberman, Fox News Sunday, December, 2001


Senhor Sr.

unread,
May 6, 2004, 7:07:28 AM5/6/04
to
stick with this post -- its a call to specific action


DICK;

THIS IS THE 5TH TIME I HAVE ASKED YOU
TO REMOVE MY NAME FROM YOUR LIST.
YOUR MESSAGES ARE SO LENGTHY THAT
THEY SLOW DOWN MY MODEM AND CREATE
A PROBLEM.

IF YOU DO NOT COMPLY, I WILL HAVE NO
CHOICE BUT TO REPORT YOU TO YOUR
SERVER AS 'SPAM'. UNWANTED EMAIL!

HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU HAVE TO
TELL A SMART MAN ONE THING?

PATT

=============

go ahead, shut me down.

I have viruses and have to go back to my super slow old computer with its
old address book and who the hell remembers who "Patt Latham" was or that
in my other (down) computer there was a request from last year to remove
her from my address book (how long has it been since we've had any
communication?)

in five hours my father has a cancer operation from which he may not recover

my daughter is getting married in June and just discovered she has a lump on
her breast -- I have no money for the wedding, if there will be one

I am crushed by debt in a dying town, but continue to believe that working
more than "full time" at my own expense getting the truth out about the 9-11
frame-up and the unjust "Frame-up Wars" against totally innocent Arabs and
for cruel dictatorship over everyone on the planet is important

E-lists where I have been posting regularly for months are now blocking me
from participation -- one of them, antiwarcom, starting first with a group
of disinfo posters initiating attacks on my 9-11 photo-evidence packages,
attacks which totally misrepresent the findings, attributting to me totally
absurd and obviously false and irresponsible claims in order to discredit
me, at exactly the time the moderator begins blocking my replies, while
letting me still get the mail to maximize the frustration effect on me --
and then when the shutdown is complete the group begins another attack
representing me as mentally ill and using my wife as their authority for the
claim

And, oh yes, John Kaminski suddenly repudiates all support of the
small-plane thesis and joins webfairy (who calls me a drunk in every forum
where she presents, even though I don't drink) joins webfairy in saying
that all the planes of 9-11 were holograms (an impossibility which I tried
explaining to him again and again -- even as he fails to get the evidence
right in the Pentagon attack every damn time he gets on the radio

and of course most of my readers have been carried off my the new pied piper
of "false opposition" disinformation in the form of "lets roll.com" which
blocks out the Pentagon evidence while making a gigantic farce of a case out
of some reflections and pixel distortions on photos of the planes that hit
the WTC -- just enough to fool enough uncritical minds to discredit the
entire 9-11 investigator movement.

leaving me, Bilk, Hoffman, Dewdney, Longspaugh, Brad, Valentine and just a
handful of others, the only joe defending the alamo

so by all means, Pat, contact my ISP and shut me down

make my day

Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington

====================================

Call to boycott antiwarcom -- I've been banned from anti-war com, an
unmoderated list

Yes, I have been banned by the moderator of antiwarcom, although the team
that brought this about are claiming otherwise to the readers I can no
longer reach -- yet when I go to re-subscribe this is the message I get:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/antiwarcom/join?

antiwarcom · Antiwar com - Friends of Antiwar.com --

You have been banned from this group by the group moderator (Yahoo! IDs
banned: oldickeastman). You may not join this group antiwarcom.

--------------

The antiwarcom@yahoogroups moderator began blocking my posts exactly as a
series of attacks on the small-plane thesis were posted to that group,
although at first I could receive mail, my posts were being "disapproved"
individually. However other subscribers to antiwarcom were willing to post
my rebuttal -- which essentially pointed out that I never said any of the
ridicululous and contemptible things that were being attributed to me by
anonymous poster "fromredbird" and "TheGod12345" and which stated the 16
photo-evidence supported proofs of the Boeing overfly and actual attack by a
smaller aircraft equipped with missile. I challenged both of these posters
and another, named "Bob" to answer even one of these points that have been
endorsed by Professor Dewdney, Jim Hoffman. Longspaugh and others associated
with Physics 911 who have also concluded the validity of the :small-plane"
finding.

Now, still denying I have been banned -- and still banning me -- many posts
have appeared on the group, forwarded to me by subscribers, showing that,
now that I am safely gone and cannot rebutt, they are posting messages
suggesting that I need psychiatric treatment and mentioning that my wife has
insisted that I seek help.

I find it significant that the moderator has no problem with this turn in
the discussion of the small-plane evidence, in that not once offering a
concret objection or counter evidence to any of the 16 lines of proof each
from hard evidence and witness testimony -- the attacks have gone from
fabricated misrepresentations, attributing totally false and ludicrous and
defaming representations of what I claim to be true, to now, in my absense,
attacking my mental stablility while I am blocked from defending myself.

I am not telling you this for my good health, rather I want to point out to
those feeble minded enough to fall for this dirty "number" being worked on
me -- that their very tactic shows their involvment in the coverup -- it
exposes them, despite the occasional post from them saying things they know
we like to hear -- that the moderator of antiwarcom and the operatives who
cooperated in this coordinated attack on the best-case evidence are working
to assist the coverup of the 9-11 mass-murders, are, in effect, accomplices
through willful obstruction of justice, the attempted suppression of
evidence in the greatest treason and mass-murder in our (US) history.

I ask that every person of good will who is now subscribed to antiwarcom,
immediately unsubscribe by sending in this notice on a blank page:

antiwarcom-...@yahoogroups.com

And I recommend that you same persons of good will reconnect with each
other at the following yahoogroup list"

standforpea...@yahoogroups.com

This group may not be where you choose to stay -- but it will be a good
holding place for everyone until a new home for TRUE anti-war activists can
be found or started.

I do not see how any person can wish to associate himself with a group like
that.

I hope to see your posts at standforpeace.

Remember, being part of a list that is moderated by false disinfo
opposition -- no matter how they know to occassionally keep you hooked by
feeding you some posts with what they know you want to hear -- is exactly
like remaining capitve to a two-party system, where your own party runs the
9-11-perpetrator Oligarchy's stooge with a bundle of "issues" scientifically
formulated by opinion sampling research to keep the majority bound to the
corrupt leadership etc. -- and if you cannot break with the people who
would blind you, who would systematically keep the most vital information --
the information that could actually bring down the murderous and enslaving
corruption, but insist giving them the gavel in your own forums -- what
chance is there.

Do you call me OTT? You bet your sweet ass I'm over the top. The term
comes from trench warfare, and it originally ment "on the attack" -- while
those in the trench were blind and inert with rats and lice. World War One
was another profitmaking banker-corporation contrived war, and of course the
only intelligent course of action would have been to rise up out of the
trench and walk home even if shot by the elite officers behind the lines
"holding you to duty." But my over the top attack is not aimed at equally
exploited soldiers of the Kaiser, or at "Moslem Fundamentalist Terrorists"
who do not exist and never have existed -- rather my attack is against the
authors and the perverse incentive system behind all such wars -- against
the financiers and CEOs who perpetrated the 9-11 frame-upusing their Bush,
their Cheney, their
Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz-Perle-Sharon-Blair-Straw-Aschroft-Tenet agents etc.

So whole follow me "overthetop" and boycott the betrayers and usupers of our
cause at antiwar come? WHo the is with me?

Dick Eastman

Yakima, Washington

Every man is responsible to ever other man.


http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911/Eastman/m18h05.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TRUTHBAZOOKA/message/5


9-11 Frame-up: The Pentagon Evidence

Here is the critical information needed to derive an informed understanding
of what really happened on September 11, 2001:

Consider what citizen investigators have uncovered regarding the alleged
"attack" on the Pentagon:


1. Pentagon security camera shows
a. Too short a plane
b. Smoke trail of a missile being fired
c. White-hot flash explosion consistent with a missile warhead

2. Photos show wrong crash imprint in the wall

3. Photos show and wrong flash-powder burn darkening the wall

4. Downed lampposts and witnesses each identified a different
approach path to the Pentagon, the Boeing's and the killer jet's

5. Wrong kind of debris

6. Single piece of right kind of debris shown to have been
found on the opposite side of the approach path from
the side of the plane where that particular piece had
to have come from.

7. Witnesses also

a. heard a missile

b. heard a sonic boom prior to blast

c. smelled burning chordite after the blast

d. saw a radar blip behaving like a jet-fighter blip

8. No photos of wreckage from inside consistent with the crash

9. Evidence of only one engine and one seat , a pilots seat.

10. A distraction plane, a large four engine plane making
dives over D.C.both photographed, videotaped and
shown on BBC, and reported (erroneously) by many
witnesses as the actual plane "diving at an irrecoverable
angle)

11. The attack was made almost horizontally into the first-floor
level -- consistent with a countour-hugging jet-fighter attack

12. Normal rescuers were prevented from entering the building
while only certain people, including Rumsfeld himself, conducted
(screened) victims from the building

13. Rumsfeld had recently been given exclusive power to
OK air interceptions -- and yet he was in his office the whole
time the twin towers were hit, and when the Pentagon was
hit he went to oversee "rescue" instead of going to the situation
room where his interception authority could be given -- he
arrived at the situation room at about the time the Pennsylvania
plane (backup for the Pentagon) was finally shot down.

14. The various drills and practices for an air attack on the Pentagon
including some kind of simulation on 9-11-01 itself, coupled with
denials that such an attack had been considered possible.

15. Impossible stories by, for example, John Judge (regarding
his amazing stewardess friend who claims to have seen the
Boeing inside the hole, recognized the plane as the one she
always flew, recongized her stewardess friend as a victim by
a photo of her severed arm with the matching "friendship bracelett"
they both wore; that she was passing out
doughnuts and coffee to the rescue workers with the salvation
army when the salvation army was nowhere in evidence at the
scene -- John Judge who is a professional JFK conspiracy
theory debunker and discloses that this same stewardess
friend is also a JFK theory investigator, the same
John Judge who launched the phony "People's Investigation
of 9-11 with a press conference by stating that the Pentagon
attack is not something responsible investigators should bother
investigating etc. since we "know" the Boeing hit the Pentagon
and don't want to be a laughing stock etc. -- the People's
investigation that never once reviewed any of the evidence
packages I posted to them -- the same John Judge who to this
day refuses to debate Dick Eastman on any internet forum and
whom all -- dare I use the term -- "responsible" 9-11 investigators
think is a John Judge who is working for the coverup, for
obstruction of justice, and because he does it so badly is himself
become one of the proofs of the frameup along with the known-
only-to himself flight attendant who works one of the flights that
most definitely had to have been regularly monitored by
US intelligence operatives, probably flight attendents, and
this one just happened not to take Flight 77 that day by
happenstance etc. -- so how about it, Mr. Judge?

16. The deaths of only the CIA's indepdendent intelligence
revivals , the Offices of Naval Intelligence personel, and
auditors of defense spending contracts etc. alone moved
into the "newly renovated" section that was hit -- on the side
where most of the witnesses would be the Arlington Cemetery
dead or people involved with driving their cars. Naval Intelligence
would have independently investigated 9-11 had they lived --
the investigator that no official has yet conducted -- Wolfowitz
sure bin Laden had done it and ready with the solution of invading
Afganistan on the very first day -- even as they were allegedly
taken by complete suprise only a few hours before that
determination.


See the evidence photos and witness testimony confirming all of the above
and further analysis in support of these conclusions by internationally
respected American men of science here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TRUTHBAZOOKA/message/5

and here

http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911/Eastman/m18h05.html

THE PENTAGON EVIDENCE IS THE ACHILLES HEEL BY WHICH WE BRING DOWN A CRIMINAL
OLIGARCHY THAT HAS MADE NO OTHER FATAL MISTAKE -- WE HAVE TO PRESS HOME
OUR ONLY ADVANTAGE -- THE PENTAGON EVIDENCE ALONE CAN RALLY HUMANITY TO
TAKING A UNIFIED MASS STAND FOR JUSTICE AND PEACE AND FREEDOM FROM THE
ELITES WHO HAVE RUINED THE LAST TWO CENTURIES OF HUMAN EXISTENCE.

Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington
Every man is responsible to every other man.

Richard Brooks

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May 6, 2004, 1:14:06 PM5/6/04
to
So, what's downtown Oxford like and what's the next event at South Park ?


Richard.


Senhor Sr.

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May 8, 2004, 2:10:28 AM5/8/04
to

I'm "anti-Semitic" if the term is tortured to mean saying there are Jews
who are conspiring to achieve racist world totalitarian dictatorship when
that's exactly what some of them are doing
by Dick Eastman

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I know Jews are conspiring racist world totalitarian dictatorship because
Jews plotted both World Wars and the Great Depression as my researches* on
the life of Jewish financier and Rothschild agent Bernard Baruch prove

I know Jews are conspiring racist world totalitarian dictatorship because
the photographic and other evidence** provide multiple lines of conclusive
proof that the Pentagon controlled by Jews Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle,
Kissinger, Myers had to have been intimately involved in the faked jetliner
crash at the Pentagon (a jet fighter conducted the attack while the Boeing
overflew the Pentagon and landed one mile away) all so the United States
would bankrupt itself and exhaust the last of its national life and energy
in a Jew-led extermination and enslavement of all of Islam

I know Jews are conspiring racist world totalitarian dictatorship because
Israel has secretly allied itself with the criminal Triad princelings of
China (whom they themselves set up at the time Lin Piao, the last true
communist, was shot down attempting to flee to the Soviet Union), Israel
giving China all US military secrets, including the neutron bomb and all
commercial secrets, including, under Clinton, the entire set of all US
patents and trade secrets;

I know Jews are conspiring racist world totalitarian dictatorship because
Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle and Kissinger were all in China with Bill Clinton
when that conspiratorial president took his Jewish Secretary of Defense and
his Jewish Secretary of State (Note: significantly Madeleine Albright
claimed not to have known she was Jewish or that her father was one of
Stalin's ruthless comissars until after she had been questioned and approved
by the Sente for the Secretary of State position, and, furthermore, she
claimed to be politically helpful "Catholic" (just like Jewish Kerry) even
though she attended a ruling-elite Episcopalian church under her gentile
identity) on that extended visit to China that lasted an entire month and
had no visible purpose or publicly visible outcome, but where, I am now
certain, the 9-11 Frame-up Conspiracy was actually hatched -- safe from any
possibility of detection by any remaining non-traitor U.S. investigative
law-enforcement

I know Jews are conspiring racist world totalitarian dictatorship because
just as the phony rigged Florida election dispute in the 2000 presidential
election was underway Congress quietly deregulated the entire derivatives
industry in legislation that was never discussed in the Jewish controlled
business and financial news media -- legislation that was simply waiting
for the "cover" provided by the unheard-of nightmare crises of Presidential
election that did not produce a winner (and yes -- all other states election
processes had to be corrupted too in order for Florida to be the
"tie-breaker" state as well as the state where the election would be
determined -- the state of Governor Jeb Bush and Janet Reno and the
Jewish-Cuban-Chinese-Mafia druglords.

Kerry, like Clinton, has been groomed young John Kerry for his political
role as Jewish conspiracy agent.. First, they changed his family name to
Kerry, from Kohn, gaving him a fictitious Irish name, great for political
effect because Massachusetts has a strongly Irish population. The name John
Forbes Kerry, was chosen for him so his initials would be "JFK," to
subconsiously implant in people's minds the Kennedy mystique. And he was not
raised in Boston, but in a private school in Switzerland. And who but the
Jewish controlled media could bill this pro-war, pro-occupation,
pro-more-wars, Zionist bonesman whose wife owns (Heinze) a multinational
corporation that has removed most of its production from the US etc. ****

footnotes:

* Bernard Baruch was the mastermind operative of the big London and Wall
Street banks who, more than any other hundred men, shaped the
defense-industry-debt-financing warplex that ruined the entire 20th century.
Here is the audio link to a broadcast of Radio Free America (Tom Valentine)
discussing that topic and the in-depth quoted references substantiating
every claim made:
Interview with Tom Valentine regarding Bernard Baruch (the key to
understanding the reign of evil throughout the 20th Century )
Oct. 6, 2002 - Bernard Baruch - Dick Eastman talks about this famous figure.
(Streaming)

http://arc3.m2ktalk.com/val1002/6.ram

Bernard Baruch master war-profiteer and architect of depressions, world
wars, cold war and the nuclear arms race my quoted references -- 104 pages
of research findings (adobe acrobat reader will work)
http://www.rfausa.com/Bernard_Baruch.pdf


** Neo-cons of the Pentagon the proven perpetrators in the attack on the
Pentagon

**** Kerry is Jewish, not Irish, not Catholic, and not a Democrat (unless
declared and never repudiated Maoism is OK credentials for a Democratic
Party presidential candiate these days.) Why the lie -- how can he and
Albright both not have known they were Jewish --why this deception and what
does this deception tell us aobut Kerry and the danger we put ourselves in
when we vote for him or for Bush?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pentagonconspiracy/message/44

General Reference for this message:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pentagonconspiracy/message/37

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pentagonconspiracy/message/19

Senhor Sr.

unread,
May 9, 2004, 11:53:26 AM5/9/04
to
the end of news -- it can't get more horrible or incriminating than this --
news is over, its has fulfilled its purpose, we know all we need to know --
its time to overthrow the Oligarchy.

Rumsfeld approved. It's the Communist-Israeli-Neo-con-Zionist way -- What
Bill of Rights? In April 2003, the Zionist Jew-run Defense Department
Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Perle, Kissinger, Myers etc., i.e., the people proven
by hard evidence to be behind the 9-11 mass-murder war-instigating
frame-up) approved interrogation techniques for use at the Guantanamo Bay
prison that permit reversing the normal sleep patterns of detainees and
exposing them to heat, cold and "sensory assault," including loud music and
bright lights, according to defense officials. -- The use of any of these
techniques requires the approval of senior Pentagon officials -- and in some
cases, of the defense secretary (just like it was from Rumsfeld alone that
the order needed to come to shoot down any aircraft on September 11, 2001).
The classified list of about 20 techniques was approved at the highest
levels of the Pentagon and the Justice Department, and represents the first
publicly known documentation of an official policy permitting interrogators
to use torture methods during questioning.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A11017-2004May8


Is there a worse way to die than this? Rush Limbaugh, the neo-conservative
talk-show-airwave-monopolizing radio commentator, has likened the abusive
and humiliating treatment of Iraqi prisoners by U.S. soldiers, contractors,
and CIA personnel to "a college fraternity prank" (New York Times, 6 May
2004). Anyone with a grain of empathy who has seen images of the
degradationinflicted on hapless Iraqi men can only be appalled by the
comment. In a sense, however, Limbaugh has a point. The brutal mistreatment
at Abu Ghraib prison is small potatoes, compared to what appears to have
been a U.S.-sponsored atrocity -- the mass murder of thousands of prisoners
of war -- in Afghanistan less than three years ago.

After the surrender of the fortress of Kunduz, at the tail end of the Afghan
war in November 2001, hundreds of Taliban prisoners -- "young men who had
expected the protection of the Geneva conventions" after surrendering to
U.S. and U.S.-backed forces -- "instead died horribly" at the hands of the
U.S.'s Northern Alliance surrogates, either by suffocation in the container
trucks used to transport them towards the Shebarghan prison, or by outright
execution in killings fields around Shebarghan. -- U.S. soldiers were
present when the containers were opened, and ordered the destruction of the
ghastly evidence inside. "When the containers were finally opened, a mess of
urine, blood, faeces, vomit and rotting flesh was all that remained ... As
the containers were lined up outside the prison, a [U.S.] soldier
accompanying the convoy was present when the prison commanders received
orders to dispose of the evidence quickly." He cites witness testimony to
the effect that "In each container maybe 150-160 [prisoners] had been
killed. ... The Americans told the Shebarghan people to get them outside the
city before they were filmed by satellite."
http://www.counterpunch.org/jones05082004.html

A Raghead speaks -- and damn the "Christian" who disagrees -- "In all
honesty, I do not think the president could have said anything to mitigate
the feelings of pain and anger that we all felt as we saw the pictures of
our brothers in Iraq being humiliated. At the same time, it is obvious that
even Bush with his lack of eloquence could have done a better job. Not once
did he apologize for the acts of his soldiers. -- Moreover, even as he
promised that the perpetrators would be punished, he managed to fit in yet
another patronizing remark about how "In America a person is innocent until
proven guilty." I wonder what the prisoners in the pictures were doing
then - posing for the latest issue of Vogue? It does seem fashionable these
days to beat, shackle and murder Arabs. -- The US president had said in a
prior press conference that he was "deeply offended," and that "this is not
who we are." Who are you then, Mr. Bush? -- Starving a nation for over 15
years, is that who you are? Bombing innocent people because of one man's
actions, is that who you are? -- You, too, kill innocent people for selfish
reasons. Al-Qaeda in Arabic means, "Base". How many bases do you have around
the world? -- How many people do you train and pay to bomb and torture
innocent people? -- In Wednesday night's interview, Bush did not forget to
"reassure" the Iraqi people that America would not leave until it has
finished its job. I am sure the Iraqis were thrilled to hear that. The
president also mentions that "haters of freedom" will not scare America
away. -- Haters of freedom? -- According to my limited knowledge of
politics, what is happening in Iraq today is occupation - at its ugliest.
And hence these "haters of freedom" are simply trying to free their lands
from the clutches of a monstrous and terrorizing force. A force that has
killed their brothers, imprisoned their fathers and robbed them of every
basic human right and dignity. More: (read the rest of it you lazy
sonfobitches!)
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P21226048


Civilian interrogators relaxed after grilling prisoners by perfecting their
golf swing on the roof of the notorious Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad,
according to the extraordinary diary kept by one.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=519434


You've come a long way, baby! Charged to "make it hell" by her
chain-of-command superiors, Sabrina Harman, the American soldier girl who
feature in grotesque photographs of naked Iraqi prisoners stacked in a
pyramid in the Abu Ghraib jail in Baghdad, claimed in an army report that
she had to keep detainees awake, among them a hooded prisoner seen in a
photograph, who was placed on a box with wires attached to his fingers, toes
and genitals. She is also accused of telling him that if he fell off the box
he would be electrocuted. -- Harman said prisoners were stripped, searched
and then "made to stand or kneel for hours". -- "Sometimes they were
forced to stand on boxes or hold boxes ... Female dominance being the most
popular form of internet pornography (Jewish dominated industry, just like
Hollywood, btw), our daughters really are learning marketable skills with
their military experience.
http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=530112004

The Bush administration ready for damage control in release of new pictures
and video footage from Abu Ghraib which show US soldiers having sex with an
Iraqi woman prisoner, troops almost beating a prisoner to death, and the
rape of young boys by collaborator guards at the jail.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=519448


Troops shot Iraqi civilians dead in cold blood, new dossier claims -- Eight
new instances today and an impending Amnesty report throw doubt on the
conduct of UK soldiers in Basra
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=519432


Funny, isn't it, that no one, absolutly no one talks of impeachment or
resignation under pressure for George W. Bush -- criticism stops only at
Rumsfeld, but that man and Wolfowitz are Bush's foreign policies and his
war policies -- they are his Presidency, his world view, the architects of
his administration -- and more than this torture issue -- the perpetrators
of the 9-11 false-flag inside-job war-instigating mass-murderings in New
York and Arlington on 9-11-01. -- DE


The US and British governments have received Red Cross reports "month after
month" since the declared end of the Iraq war a year ago, detailing the
abuse and torture of Iraqi prisoners. Yet, with report after report piling
up on their desks, President George W Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair
chose to say nothing in public to condemn what they knew in private.
http://www.sundayherald.com/41906


The British government was told in February of allegations coalition troops
had abused Iraqi prisoners, Prime Minister Tony Blair's office said
Saturday.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?S13154048

Tories demand Hoon explains when he was told about prisoner abuse. --
Whitehall alarmed over report that detainees were hidden from Red Cross --
British military intelligence officers were interrogating prisoners in the
notorious Abu Ghraib jail in Iraq even as the first reports of abuses at the
prison came to light ...
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1212769,00.html


==========

9-11 Frame-up: The Pentagon Evidence Proves It

Here is the critical information needed to derive an informed opinion of


what really happened on September 11, 2001:

Consider what citizen investigators have uncovered regarding the alleged
"attack" on the Pentagon:


1. Pentagon security camera shows
a. Too short a plane
b. Smoke trail of a missile being fired
c. White-hot flash explosion consistent with a missile warhead

2. Photos show wrong crash imprint in the wall

3. Photos show and wrong flash-powder burn darkening the wall

4. Downed lampposts and witness consensus each identify


a different approach path to the Pentagon, the Boeing's

and the killer jet's and they are mutually incompatible --
(path of sighted Boeing also inconsistent with civil
engineers reported "angle of entry")

5. Wrong kind of debris

6. Single piece of right kind of debris shown to have been
found on the opposite side of the approach path from
the side of the plane where that particular piece had
to have come from.

7. Witnesses also

a. heard a missile

b. heard a sonic boom prior to blast

c. smelled burning chordite after the blast

d. saw a radar blip behaving like a jet-fighter blip

8. No photos of wreckage from inside consistent with the crash

9. Evidence of only one engine and one seat , a pilots seat.

10. A distraction plane, a four- engine plane making dives
over D.C. both photographed, videotaped and shown
on BBC, and reported (erroneously) by many wintesses

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TRUTHBAZOOKA/message/5

and here

http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911/Eastman/m18h05.html

Dick Eastman

Senhor Sr.

unread,
May 12, 2004, 9:21:28 AM5/12/04
to
Item #1:

From: jon utley <jbu...@earthlink.net>

Subject: America above the Law? Neocons, of course, that's their
worldview + CACI (the "contract torturer) ties to Israel--CEO got award


Again it's neocons wrecking good will for America in the
world, the lawlessness comes from the Pentacons (Pentagon Neocons),
remember when they told us that "It is a big mistake for us to grant
any validity to international law even when it may seem in our
short-term interest to do so -- because, over the long term, the goal of
those who think that international law really means anything are those
who want to constrict the United States." John Bolton (Asst. Secretary
of State for International Organizations)
<http://www.againstbombing.org/lucier.htm> He's inflicted upon Powell to
keep control of the State Dept, but all the top civilians in the
Rumsfeld -- Cheney team are neocons,

But a free press and American basic decency does expose our
dirty linen, and makes us stronger and more honorable, to recover,
eventually, our greatness and I don't mean the Neocons' concept of
militarily ruling the world. The system does work. The humiliation of
the Arabs comes from neocon thinking, just like that of Sharon, that if
Arabs are just beat up enough, the will behave as proper servants in the
occupied territories.

It's a sort of Germanic-Russian thinking, very contrary to
Arab (and Latin) psychology where a man's dignity is paramount, not
matter how poor and miserable he may be. Justin Raimondo notes detailed
ties between the company, CACI,
<http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=2477> which hired the civilian
"contract" torturers and Isreal's Likud. Indeed, he writes, hiring
private contractors was a good way to "hide" Israelis advisors. Also
the London Guardian
<http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1102940,00.html> has
published about the Army taking on Israeli "advisors." Only such a
stupidity could come from the Neocons. But again it's their thinking,
that humiliation and showing Iraqis that Israels are "helping" the U.S.
is the way to show them that resistance is futile.

Neo-Conservatives Welcomed 9-11
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58484-2004May1.html> as
giving "purpose" for an "imperial America" to "inspire Americans for
empire" (Wash Post)

Abuse of Prisoners Began with Rumsfeld-Cheney Policies
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64322-2004May3.html>
that U.S. not subject Geneva Convention or international law

As Seymour Hersh has pointed out
<http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?031215fa_fact>, the U.S.-Israeli
alliance has been taking covert shape in the course of this war:
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?031215fa_fact

"Israeli commandos and intelligence units have been working closely with
their American counterparts at the Special Forces training base at Fort
Bragg, North Carolina, and in Israel to help them prepare for operations
in Iraq. Israeli commandos are expected to serve as ad-hoc advisers -
again, in secret - when full-field operations begin."

Evolving Disaster
<http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040429-113745-2828r> by Arnaud
de Borchgrave http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040429-113745-2828r

60 Top U.S. ex-Diplomats Say Bush-Sharon Deal a Disaster for America
<http://www.antiwar.com/lobe/?articleid=2476>
http://www.antiwar.com/lobe/?articleid=2476

Links above
http://www.againstbombing.org/lucier.htm
http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=2477
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1102940,00.html

=================

Item #2:

The Abu Ghraib-Titan- 9/11 Connection (TortureGate vs. 9/11)
By Sam Ewing (*continuing updates in Addendum)
May 8
(See also TortureGate -suspects still at work)

The scandal of Abu Ghraib is currently only connected with 4 main suspects,
but how far do the tracks really go?:

2 members of the South Bend's 428th Military Police Company; and 2 employees
of two private intelligence contractors:
Titan Corporation and CACI.

South Bend is a regular partner of the Intelligence Department of the
Government.

In October 2001, the unit was already mobilized for a Homeland Security
mission at Fort Hood, Texas.

Furthermore, Titan's connection with the "Torture-scandal" in Iraq shows
another deeper connection with the Pentagon, than most people expect, but
also with the Intelligence and the "9/11 attacks"...
full story...
http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=165

http://911skeptics.blogspot.com
TortureGate- WW-Trigger or Counter Coup d'etat?

http://physics911.org/net/modules/weblog/

==============

Hate-driven and anti-Semitic? Or is the "small-plane" finding actually
evidence-driven and dead-on accurate?

Decide for yourself. Here are the accusations and the facts.

------------

With regard to Dick Eastman's shrill commentary over the last few days I
wish to publicly thank Mark Robinowitz for his taking the time and doing a
good job of countering Eastman's assertions.

Vince Suave

================================


Mark Robinowitz wrote this in response to my "Best Proof" post.

So far it is the only response I have received. Ruppert, Jared Israel,
Rivero, Judge, Harvey, and Sarah Roberts so far have not chosen to reply.

Mark is not an investigator known to me, but I am grateful for the chance to
engage with someone in a discussion of the small-plane evidence and the
frame-up it exposes.

> Mark Robinowitz (MR) posts:
>
> At 9:48 PM -0700 2004-05-10, sf911trut...@riseup.net wrote:
>>Dick Eastman [DE] posts:
>>
>>Subject: INDEX OF BEST EVIDENCE 9-11 Pentagon
>
>
>
DE:
>> Please note that this is not a formal write-up, but merely
> a memorandum to alert you to the existence of this body
> of "best-evidence" information. Include several links to
>> many formal write ups, such as those at Physics911.
>
>

MR:
>Physics 9/11 is a website that asserts that a missile caused
> a plane like imprint on the WTC north tower. There are
> numerous photos of the north tower that clearly show the
> impact caused by large wings. This is so easy to debunk
> that it raises serious questions about the intent (or
> sanity) of the "missile attacked the WTC" advocates.

DE:
Well, Mark, then we agree that the WTC towers where hit
by airliners. This to me is obvious. I am glad it is to you too.
I speak of Physics911 merely as the place where Jim Hoffman
and A.K.Dewdney have posted on the Pentagon, two
"small-plane" theorists. I am not even familiar with the
arguments that are made at that site about the WTC.

MR:
> Muddying the waters is an old tactic to confuse people
> from looking at the most credible material.

DE:
Another point on which we are in strong agreement.


DE:
>>You have each denigrated the finding that the Boeing 757
> overflew the Pentagon as a smaller aircraft, armed with
> missiles, was crashing directly below. I am convinced
> that in light of the following compilation of independent lines
> of proof from a variety of evidence and testimony, that
> your possition is not longer tenable.
>
MR:
> I seriously doubt that Mr. Eastman has ever been to this area.

DE:
Now you can be certain. I never have had the honor of visiting
our nation's capitol.

MR:
> If he had, he might realize that thousands of people would
> have seen the overflight of this plane, since there are large
> highways full of commuters, rapid rail line, and numerous
> large office buildings full of military officials and contractors --

DE:
Thousands did not see the crash, so why should that number
have seen the flyover? Many photos from different angles
-- all of which I supply readers -- show the topography of
the crime scene. And I have the account of three witnesses,
each of whose observations figure in my conclusions (Lagasse,
Faram, Riskus)

MR:
> many of them would have noticed the hitherto unprecedented
> flight of a jet coming from the direction of the Pentagon in a
> place that planes do not normally fly.

DE:
I have given the witnesses statements of those who noticed the
plane coming in outside of the normal path of incoming airliners
at Reagan National. You are right. Several did notice.

And many saw the Boeing come in over the Sheraton Hotel, over
the Naval Annex, over the Citgo gas station, over the head of
the gardener cutting the grass along the southmost piece of
Alrington Cemetery between the Annex and the gas station,
There reported observation of the path of the Boeing as it
approached the Pentagon rendevous is just one line of proof
that the Boeing was not the killer jet. You see, if the plane
came in over those locations then a) it could not have hit the
first lamppost that was knocked down (which had been standing
at the southest corner of the bridge in the center of the Pentagon
parking access cloverleaf; and 2) it could not have come in at
the 55-degree angle that civil engineers have identified as the
angle at which the true killer jet made its first-floor entry.

So these many witnesses where there, and their testimony
supports the "small-plane" finding.

There is one point where I beg to differ. Very few saw the
actual crash because

1) Washington Blvd. rises to allow the underpass to the
parking area -- so that those who noticed the Boeing from
the Columbia Pike and highway 395 could not see the
first-floor level where the killer jet hit;

2) Most of the area west of the west wall is Arlington Cemetery,
i.e., dead people;

3) Many were distracted by the act of driving -- and minds not
expecting things often miss them, especially in a frame of
just a few seconds.


MR:
> It is near National Airport, but planes landing there don't pass that
> direction. Also, they need more time to lower their landing gear -
> planes need more than a mile to accomplish this.

DE: This is true and it would be noticed by those who think about
those things -- the cars headed East towards the 14th-street bridge
would be used to landing jetliners at the bridge -- not everyone would
have the presence of mind to think about a plane out of place in
so short a time span, although some did. You are not saying anything
that has not been taken into account and that has not been discussed
hundreds of times.

>
DE:
>>It would be most helpful to the world situation if you each would make
> public retractions of your former misguided criticisms of these
>>now-established findings.

DE:
Yes, they really should. I hope they do.


DE:
>>I am sure you realize how much misery in the world is
> being prolonged because of resistance to these facts,
>> owing to your earlier resistance.

DE:
Also true. Why do they hold back?

MR:
> No doubt it is all the fault of 9/11 skeptics who don't accept Mr.
> Eastman's assertions based on questionable inference and in some
> cases easily disproven material as gospel truth.

DE:
Actually, Mark, I was the sceptic -- the man sceptical about the
official 9-11 story, and I then examined the evidence and confirmed
by scepiticism and made my findings available to everyone. I
debunked the fiction of the crashing Boeing -- but even more,
the evidence itself does the debunking of the official version.
I merely point to the pictures. The "small-plane" finding is entirely
"data driven."

You characterize my data-derived conclusions as "assertions." An
assertion is a statement one makes about something that is
in question. Far from "asserting," I am demonstrating something
merely by pointing to the photographic evidence which tells
exactly what happened simply by direct inspection. You know the
drill: "Too-short a plane, visible missile smoke trail, inappropriate
white flash and all the other impossible inconsistencies that
disprove the official story.

Also, when one "asserts" something to be true -- it means they
state it to be true emphatically but without evidence. That most
certainly is not the case here.

MR:
> Self-righteousness directed at one's ostensible allies is a poor
> strategy for building alliances.

Are you familiar with the history of the exchanges between Ron Harvey,
Sarah Roberts, Mike Rivero, Jared Israel, Joe Vialls and myself?

Harvey was calling me a whacko long before I even heard of him.

Sarah Roberts likewise put up her site, not totally discredited,
characteristically withdrawing for a period every time I pointed out
an error -- such as having the Boeing make ten degrees of
turn all while over the highway cloverleaf.

Mike Rivero and I were cooperating together, exchanging views,
when suddenly he accussed me of being an agent working
against him, and cut off all communication -- refusing to look
at the information I showed him -- and posting totally bogus
and easily refutable brush-off arguements, which when I
did expose them he would not own up to.

And none of them ever engaged the key arguments presented
point by point.


DE:


>>1. Pentagon security camera shows
>> a. Too short a plane
>> b. Smoke trail of a missile being fired
>> c. White-hot flash explosion consistent with a missile warhead
>

MR:
> This is from one of the participants in the 9/11 inquiry in SF ...
>
DE:
And E=MC2 is from the writer of you high-school science book, right?

The fact is that I am the first to have noted the missile trail on the
internet.
I am one of the first to remark on the white-hot initial explosion being
inappropriate for an aluminum plane with kerosene hitting a brick, concrete,
limestone office building.
I was the first with both arguments for the too-short plane:

1) The "Stegosaurus proof" of the parking pass machine in the forground
only covering a length of not quite five tail fins in a row, when a Boeing
757
is longer than six tail fins would be aligned along its back; and

2) the fact that the plane in the security cam picture #1 is obviously
shorter
than the height of the Pentagon (71'ft.) like the F-16, whereas the Boeing
757 is a tad over twice as long as the building is high (155 ft.)

That should settle everying, right there. But people pretended not
to get it, and so I looked for and found more than a half dozen other
proofs that the Boeing did not crash.


> I am aware that the five photos from the Pentagon
> security camera are faked, but there are way more than
> five photos. The earlier photos (and videos) that
> appeared on television right after the hit are the ones
> that clearly prove (to me) that no 757 hit the Pentagon.

Your "awareness" is not good enough for me. I believe the Pentagon
spokesman was not lying when he said that the pictures show substantially
what was in the originals. I believe that what they did was to select only
sequence shots that do not show the killer jet, being careful to pick
exactly a shot where the plane is concealed behind the parking-pass machine
(except for the tail fin). The dates and times were modified to conceal the
fact that the selection of shots are not the complete sequence.

People have made a lot of "discoloration" in the second shot -- but this
is the result of the bright "flash powder" effect of the white hot
explosion -- it brightens the entire landscape, which reflects it in all
directions -- doubtless to blind the observers for the two seconds
necessary for the Boeing to "dissappear" behind the subsequent red and
orange flames and the black smoke from the crash and jet fuel.

All of this has been gone over again and again for the last since March of
2002, when the video shots were released.

MR:
> My feeling has been all along that the faked photos were
> released purposely to muddy the waters.

DE:
That's your feeling? Well, there is one thing, Dick Eastman cannot disprove
and which forces me to admit defeat : Disproving Mark Robinowitz's feeling.
What can I say? "All along," eh? And with that feeling did you ever
experience curiosity about why Mssrs. Rumsfeld, Wolfowtiz, and Myers might
wish to "muddy the waters?" Or don't feelings ever yield analytical next
steps?

MR:
> The Pentagon
> knew these photos would be picked up by skeptics as
> "proof" and that they would also be easily dismissed by
> others as fake (they even changed the date to September
> 12th).

DE:
Gee. You seem to get right into their minds. But again, why would they
take these evasive "muddying" measures? And why would they risk detection
in changing something critical -- where they would be liable. Don't you
think they have lawyers (like Ted Olsen) advising them on how to proceed?
The released the true frame that happened not to show the small plane that
they did not want people seeing. REMEMBER -- THEY DID NOT RELEASE THESE
PICTURES AT ALL, UNTIL THE FRENCH APPEARED TALKING ABOUT THE SMALL HOLE AND
STATING THAT THERE WAS "NO PLANE" -- they released these pictures under
pressure -- showing us the only shot they could provide that showed that
there was a plane, but that did not show enough to determine what kind of
plane (or so they thought).

MR:
> But again, I am not basing my belief on these faked
> photos, but rather on the earlier photos.

DE:
So Mark is a man with a belief!

Are "beliefs" better than "assertions," Mark?

At any rate, there are no earlier photos. Unless you mean,
the photos that were made available to the public earlier,
i.e., the photos taken by witnesses who had cameras in
their cars or , like Faram, brought them down before the
wall collapsed.

MR:
> Either way, though, they have certainly succeeded in
> muddying the waters so much that you are probably right
> it is better to focus on WHERE the Pentagon was hit.

DE:
I have seen and provided you all with all of the best photos,
and from that evidence, arranged for the most informing juxtapositions,
THE FACT IS THAT ALL OF THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY
TELLS A CONSISTENT STORY -- EACH PIECE OF EVIDENCE,
EACH PROOF DERIVED FROM THAT EVIDENCE SUPPORTS,
CORROBORATES, IS CONSISTENT WITH, CONFIRMS ALL
THE OTHER PARTS.

DE:
Look at each of the numbered items 1 through 16 and you
will see what I mean -- that is unless you let your "feelings"
get in the way.
>

DE:
>> witnesses reporting the Boeing
>> coming over the Sheraton Hotel, the
>> Naval Annex, the Citgo gas station, and the southernmost
>> extremity of Arlington National Cemetery -- an angle much
>> closer to perpendicular to the wall)
>
DE:
Damn! Am I good or what?

MR:
> I haven't heard of any witnesses who report a plane LEAVING from the
> direction of the Pentagon, which is what the "two plane" theory
> requires for it to be true.

DE:
Then you must be of the philosophic school which "asserts" that
the tree does not make sound if it falls in a forest where no ears
are there to hear it.

Not me.

If the audience of hundreds, does not see the flowers disappear into
the hidden pocket sewn into the cape, that is not proof that the hidden
pocket does not exist.

And how much better the magicians of the CIA/MI6/Mossad when
planning a black op as important as this one?

However, you are wrong. It so happens that one witness did say that
he thought the plane went over the building.

And the very first report on Washington D.C. radio stations was that
a jetliner had crashed on the 14th street bridge.

And the very first call to the airport firemen was that a jetliner
had crashed on a runway at the north end airport.

^
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AIRPORT


============ * lamppost #1
BRIDGE PENTAGON [] Citgo N. Annex
Sheraton


ARLINGTON CEMETERY


DE:


>>7. Witnesses also
>>
>> a. heard a missile
>>
>> b. heard a sonic boom prior to blast
>>
>> c. smelled burning chordite after the blast
>

MR:
> Some also smelled jet fuel, for what that is worth. Perhaps the
> zionists ran around and poured jet fuel to confuse people.
>
DE: Ah! I see the game. No point in discussing further is there.
Got some Zionists in the family, do you, Mark? Thinking that
it might be uncomfortable for them if the link to Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz
were made too clear? Don't you trust the truth as the
best anti-sceptic for human problems?

Tell me true, Mark -- do you think it would be bad for
Jewish people if it was proved that Rumsfled-Wolfowitz-Perle-Sharon
were proven to be the perpetrators of 9-11?

Would you even allow yourself to entertain that possibility?

Jared Israel has made his choice? He will not engage the
evidence honestly. Now what about you?


MR:
> A much more sensible and accurate commenator, Fletcher Prouty, wrote in

DE:
I thought Prouty died before 9-11 happened?

You are accusing me of being "less accurate" than someone here, Mark.
Name my inaccuracy. Name one case where I have not corrected position
the second new data has come to hand (like about the existence of downed
lampposts or the angle of the hole in "c"-ring what that first became
known on the internet?

You need to state an innacuracy in any of my Pentagon presentation -
or I will have to consider this a deliberate misrepresentation.

MR:
> [Fletcher Prouty, wrote in]
> "the Secret Team" that covert operations that are successful are kept
> small and relatively simple.

DE:
He was right. The 9-11 frame-up caper was a fiasco all the way.
Only you and Jared Israel disagree. They got too cock-sure of
their technology. Same mistake they made in Iraq. Not too swift.

Buy the way, why did you start this group if you won't accpt the
best evidence of a frame-op?

> The more elaborate theories of 9/11 tend
> to be those with less evidence and are more difficult to show how they
> could have been what happened.

You mean Webfairy's Holograms at the WTC , based on the blurry fireman
video.

Are you really trying to say that detectives concluding the "small-plane"
attack
use less evidence than other people? Are your serious -- or are you hoping
that just saying it will make people believe it, regardless of the fact that
it is
very well known to be the exact opposite of the fact.


DE:
Would you consider yourself a Zionist, Mark?

Would a Zionist, allow himself agree with the small-pane thesis, even
if he suspect that it was probably true? even if he were convinced
rationally based on conclusive evidence that it was true?

MR:
> Mr. Eastman does not seem interested in mentioning what is 100%
> provable and undisputed -- the fact the Pentagon was hit in the
> nearly empty part, preferring to focus on the unprovable and disputed
> claims of what did or did not hit the Pentagon (but without any
> primary evidence to back up his theories).

DE:
Aren't my posts long enough without mentioning what is undisputed?
And have your really read my 300,000 posts on the newsgroups and
e-lists to say that I don't mention that the "wedge" that was hit was
rennovated???

And of course what you say is not true. I have often written about
the renovation. I have suggested that the rennovation made it
easier for Mr. Rumsfeld , Mr. Wolfowitz, Gen Myers, Mr. Perle,
Mr. Kissinger, Mr. Gingrich and other masterminds at the Pentagon
just prior to 9-11, to plan exactly who they wanted in the new
section and who they did not. They just gave orders for the
people they wanted dead to be moved to the targeted area.

NOW IF YOU REPLY TO THIS LETTER AT ALL I INSIST THAT
YOU EXPLAIN TO EVERYONE HOW YOU CAME BY YOUR
CONCLUSION THAT I DON'T MENTION THE FACT OF THE
RENOVATION -- WHEN I DID SO ONLY A FEW DAYS AGO,
AND WHEN I HAVE REPORTED IT AND DISCUSSED IT
WITH OTHER INVESTIGATORS AGAIN AND AGAIN
SINCE EVEN BEFORE THE SECURITY VIDEO PICS
WERE RELEASED (I.E. BEFORE MARCH 2002)

SO HOW DID YOU SAMPLE MY WRITINGS TO JUSTIFY
THIS ACCUSATION THAT I DON'T MENTION THIS ITEM?

The fact that the wedge was under rennovation suggests many
possibilities and is suspicious circumstantial evidence --
but it is not the conclusive evidence that a grand jury
would be impressed with. It doesn't directly point to anyone
and it doesn't establish method or motive -- except insofar
as IF THEY WERE TARGETING ONLY ONE PART OF
THE BUILDING -- A BUILDING IN WHICH RUMSFELD
WAS GOING TO BE WHEN THE ATTACK OCCURED,
THEN THEY WOULD WANT A MORE PRECISION MEANS
OF ATTACK -- THE F-16 AND THE MISSILES IT FIRED --
RATHER THAN CRASHING A CLUMSY BOEING 757
WHICH MIGHT SEND AN ENGINE FLYING OVER UNTO
RUMSFELD'S LAP.

But that is just speculation. I like to stick with the incontestable
hard evidence that does not require much deduduction, just
simple inspection of the data to reach the obvious conclusion.

MR:
> I wouldn't hire him to be a professional investigator for a lawsuit.

DE:
I agree. You wouldn't.

I'll have to remember that argument. When someone is arguing
something, make it known that people like him are not going to
be hired because of what they argue. I admit this intimidation
can be very effective with certain types of people.

Where did you learn that trick?

DE:


>>11. The attack was made almost horizontally into the first-floor
>> level -- consistent with a countour-hugging jet-fighter attack
>

RM:
> or a 757 being operated by remote control flight systems


DE:
No. The Boeing is just not responsive enough. The Boeing could
get down to flying level at two or three feet above the ground
after coming down from the seventeen-floorhotel, the five-floor
Annex, and the rise in Washington Blvd. It would be impossible
for that plane to skim that close -- in perfect horizontal flight
across the lawn -- -- no one would risk hitting the lawn
and skidding in -- the remote control could not add to the
existing performance capabilites of the aircraft .

SO HERE IS A SECOND POINT ON WHICH I WANT A CLEAR
ACCOUNTING FROM YOU -- WHAT WAS IN YOUR HEAD,
WHAT INFORMATION WHERE YOU APPEALING TO, WHEN
YOU "ASSERTED" THAT THE 757 COULD PERFORM THIS
AMAZING FEAT OF COMING DOWN OFF THOSE BUILDINGS
ON THE HILL AND OVER THAT RISE IN THE HIGHWAY
AND THEN DIP DOWN SO THAT THE ENGINES ARE
THE HEIGHT OF A DOG'S BACK IN PERFECT HORIZONTAL
FLIGHT BEFORE THE PLANE HAS TRAVERSED HALF
WAY ACROSS THE LAWN (AS SHOWN BY THE VIDEO
CAMERA).

IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT WAS THE BASIS OF YOUR LAST
STATEMENT? WHAT INFORMATION DID YOU HAVE TO
JUSTIFY THAT STATEMENT -- WHICH I SAY IS FALSE
AND WHICH RALPH OMHOLT WHO FLEW THE 757
SAYS IS FALSE.

By the way, where are your responses to my points, 2, 3, 5, 6,
8, 9, 10, 12, 13, and 15???? Am I to assume that you agree
with those proofs?

DE:


>>14. The various drills and practices for an air attack on the Pentagon
>> including some kind of simulation on 9-11-01 itself, coupled with
>> denials that such an attack had been considered possible.

MR:
> That doesn't prove Eastman's theories on the "two planes" theory.

DE: You misunderstand the purpose of the 16 proofs. They prove that
the Pentagon top leadership had to have been complicit in 9-11. The
lies about not having considered such an attack as possible and
the scenario practices that took place proving otherwise, demonstrate
top leadership complicity. The "small-plane" finding (killer jet, plus
Boeing overfly), established in the first three points (actually there
are four proofs of the small plane thesis in the very first point,
above, which is then used to prove Rumsfeld complicity.

I should have made that clearer.

DE:

>>"responsible" 9-11 investigators
>>think is a John Judge who is working for the coverup, for

MR:
> This is reminiscent of cointelpro type tactics, and it either a sign of
> extreme obnoxiousness (mere disagreement on a detail does not
> constitute corruption) or deliberate effort to sow dissension.

DE:
This is reminiscent of cointelpro type tactics, a deliberate effort to
sow dissension.

I know you are aware that John Judge kicked off the "People's Investigation
of 9-11" with the declaration that the P.I.of911 would not waste time
with obvious wastes of time, like the thesis that the Boeign did not crash,
wherein he wrote me and Bosankoe and Fescado and all the rest of us
out of the investigaton and refused to allow the subject to be opened.
When I called them on it, Carol Brouillet assured me that she would
see to it personally that the Pentagon attack would be brought up --
I sent two packets of evidence (most of what you have before you
in my latest package to this forum) -- and sure enough Brouillet
and Judge never did open the discussion of the Pentagon evidence,
of the Bosankoe evidence, as I was calling it calling it at the time.

Judge was calling me irresponsible and putting pressure on
other investigators to dissaccociate themselves from me -- and
that before I even had any contact with him or knew who he was.

And when I answered a statement of his in every particular,
exposing the utter impossibility and ludicrousness of his story
about his flight attendant friend and challenged him to respond --
here merely withdrew from the field -- writing only in forums that
I do not post in, that are denied to me. etc.

Even now, you will notice that Judge has not answered my call
to repudiate his position or defend it.

The only one to come out and engage any of my points, man to man,
has been you, Mark, for which I thank you.

OK, what happens next?

Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington

===========================

> Vince Sauve posts:
>
> With regard to Dick Eastman's shrill commentary over the last few days I
> wish to publicly thank Mark Robinowitz for his taking the time and doing a
> good job of countering Eastman's assertions.
>


DE reponse:

Readers will note that Mr. Sauve is referring to Mr. Robinowitz's first
response to my evidence index.

Mr. Robinowitz failed to oppose any evidence or to point out any deductive
error.

Readers can verify that far from an "anti-Semitic diatribe," the
"small-plane" finding is entirely data driven -- as if it was me and not
the Zionists who are killing all the Semites (Arabs) lately.

Note that it is I who present evidence to this list for peer review -- and
it is Mark who has made my style, my politics an issue -- as if being
anti-Zionist nullifies any empirical fact I may point out.

Mark, failed to scratch the four of my sixteen that he addressed -- perhaps
he would like to try his luck on the other proofs.

Here are my 16 points, lest anyone forget them:

Dear Citizen,

Here is the multiple lines of "best-evidence" implicating the United States
Pentagon leadership in the "9-11" attack on the Pentagon itself.

I believe that there is no more effective way to end the violent and
criminal Anglo-American foreign policies than by exposing with multiple
lines of photographic and other hard evidence establishing the complicity,
the active involvement, of top civilian leadership of the US military in
the deadly attack on the Pentagon of 11 September, 2001.

I give you the following evidence links and an index of the proofs found
therein.

I will not be writing to you again, although I am at your service
individually, should you have questions about any of the following.

Please note that this is not a formal write-up, but a memorandum to alert
you to the existence of this body of "best-evidence" information. The
pages include links to many authoritative formal write ups, such as those
at Physics911.com.

Yours sincerely,

Richard P. Eastman M.S., M.A.
de1...@nwinfo.net

===================================

Here is the critical information needed to derive an informed

opinion of what really happened on at the Pentag on
September 11, 2001:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TRUTHBAZOOKA/message/5

http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911/Eastman/m18h05.html

INDEX OF PROOF

1. Pentagon security camera shows
a. Too short a plane
b. Smoke trail of a missile being fired
c. White-hot flash explosion consistent with a missile warhead

2. Photos show wrong crash imprint in the wall

3. Photos show and wrong flash-powder burn darkening the wall

4. Downed lampposts and witness consensus each identify
a different approach path to the Pentagon, the Boeing's
and the killer jet's and they are mutually incompatible --
(path of sighted Boeing also inconsistent with civil

engineers reported "50 degree- angle of entry" -- witnesses
reporting the Boeing coming over the Sheraton Hotel, the
Naval Annex, the Citgo gas station, and the southernmost
extremity of Arlington National Cemetery -- an angle much
closer to perpendicular to the wall)

Senhor Sr.

unread,
May 13, 2004, 9:13:32 AM5/13/04
to
These articles all supporting the same case--

The beheading was real -- but possibly Mossad/Shin Bet/CIA/MI6 under those
hoods jump-starting stalled support for the Arab genocide plan. Remember,
they did 9-11.

=========

The FBI saw Nick Berg, the American civilian beheaded in Iraq, three times
while he was being detained by Iraqi police, the U.S.-led occupation
authority said Wednesday.

=========

Was Berg telling soldiers about evidence-supported 9-11 suspicions back
home? "U.S. authorities were notified, the FBI visited with Mr. Berg when
he was in Iraqi police detention and determined that he was not involved in
any criminal or terrorist activities," Senor said. "They had contact with
him on three occasions." Brigadier-General Mark Kimmitt, the U.S. military
spokesman in Iraq, said U.S. military police [the torturers!] had seen Berg
during his detention to make sure he was being fed and treated properly.

========

He did not find work and planned to return home at the end of March,
according to his parents. Berg's communications to his parents stopped on
March 24 and he told them later he was jailed by Iraqi officials after being
picked up at a checkpoint in Mosul. On April 5, the Bergs filed a lawsuit
alleging their son was being held illegally by the U.S. military in Iraq.
The next day, he was released.

========

Senor said that to his knowledge, "he (Berg) was at no time under the
jurisdiction or detention of coalition forces."

==================

However, calls by The Associated Press to police in Mosul failed to find
anyone who could confirm Berg was held there or why. The U.S.-led Coalition
Provisional Authority controls Iraqi police and military. Berg, a small
telecommunications business owner, spoke to his parents on March 24 and told
them he would return home on March 30, his family said. But Berg was
detained by Iraqi police at a checkpoint in Mosul on March 24. He was turned
over to U.S. officials and detained for 13 days, the family said.

====================


Dick,

I regard it as highly significant that so many "columnists and academics"
are rushing forward to disprove your [Pentagon 9-11 evidence] posts.

Richard Roper

==========================================

The Israeli Torture Template
Rape, Feces and Urine-Dipped Cloth Sacks
By WAYNE MADSEN

With mounting evidence that a shadowy group of former Israeli Defense Force
and General Security Service (Shin Bet) Arabic-speaking interrogators were
hired by the Pentagon under a classified "carve out" sub-contract to
brutally interrogate Iraqi prisoners at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison, one
only needs to examine the record of abuse of Palestinian and Lebanese
prisoners in Israel to understand what Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld
meant, when referring to new, yet to be released photos and videos, he said,
"if these images are released to the public, obviously its going to make
matters worse."
http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen05102004.html

According to a political appointee within the Bush administration and U.S.
intelligence sources, the interrogators at Abu Ghraib included a number of
Arabic-speaking Israelis who also helped U.S. interrogators develop the
"R2I" (Resistance to Interrogation) techniques. Many of the torture methods
were developed by the Israelis over many years of interrogating Arab
prisoners on the occupied West Bank and in Israel itself.

Clues about worse photos and videos of abuse may be found in Israeli files
about similar abuse of Palestinian and other Arab prisoners. In March 2000,
a lawyer for a Lebanese prisoner kidnapped in 1994 by the Israelis in
Lebanon claimed that his client had been subjected to torture, including
rape. The type of compensation offered by Rumsfeld in his testimony has its
roots in cases of Israeli torture of Arabs. In the case of the Lebanese man,
said to have been raped by his Israeli captors, his lawyer demanded
compensation of $1.47 million. The Public Committee Against Torture in
Israel documented the types of torture meted out on Arab prisoners. Many of
the tactics coincide with those contained in the Taguba report: beatings and
prolonged periods handcuffed to furniture. In an article in the December
1998 issue of The Progressive, Rabbi Lynn Gottlieb reported on the treatment
given to a 23-year old Palestinian held on "administrative detention." The
prisoner was "cuffed behind a chair 17 hours a day for 120 days . . . [he]
had his head covered with a sack, which was often dipped in urine or feces.
Guards played loud music right next to his ears and frequently taunted him
with threats of physical and sexual violence." If additional photos and
videos document such practices, the Bush administration and the American
people have, indeed, "seen nothing yet."

Although it is still largely undocumented if any of the contractor named in
the report of General Antonio Taguba were associated with the Israeli
military or intelligence services, it is noteworthy that one, John Israel,
who was identified in the report as being employed by both CACI
International of Arlington, Virginia, and Titan, Inc., of San Diego, may not
have even been a U.S. citizen. The Taguba report states that Israel did not
have a security clearance, a requirement for employment as an interrogator
for CACI. According to CACI's web site, "a Top Secret Clearance (TS) that is
current and US citizenship" are required for CACI interrogators working in
Iraq. In addition, CACI requires that its interrogators "have at least two
years experience as a military policeman or similar type of law
enforcement/intelligence agency whereby the individual utilized interviewing
techniques."

Speculation that "John Israel" may be an intelligence cover name has fueled
speculation whether this individual could have been one of a number of
Israeli interrogators hired under a classified contract. Because U.S.
citizenship and documentation thereof are requirements for a U.S. security
clearance, Israeli citizens would not be permitted to hold a Top Secret
clearance. However, dual U.S.-Israeli citizens could have satisfied Pentagon
requirements that interrogators hold U.S. citizenship and a Top Secret
clearance. Although the Taguba report refers twice to Israel as an employee
of Titan, the company claims he is one of their sub-contractors. CACI stated
that one of the men listed in the report "is not and never has been a CACI
employee" without providing more detail. A U.S. intelligence source revealed
that in the world of intelligence "carve out" subcontracts such confusion is
often the case with "plausible deniability" being a foremost concern.

In fact, the Taguba report does reference the presence of non-U.S. and
non-Iraqi interrogators at Abu Ghraib. The report states, "In general, US
civilian contract personnel (Titan Corporation, CACI, etc), third country
nationals, and local contractors do not appear to be properly supervised
within the detention facility at Abu Ghraib."

The Pentagon is clearly concerned about the outing of the Taguba report and
its references to CACI, Titan, and third country nationals, which could
permanently damage U.S. relations with Arab and Islamic nations. The
Pentagon's angst may explain why the Taguba report is classified Secret No
Foreign Dissemination.

The leak of the Taguba report was so radioactive, Daniel R. Dunn, the
Information Assurance Officer for Douglas Feith's Office of the Under
Secretary of Defense, Policy (Policy Automation Services Security Team),
sent a May 6, 2004, For Official Use Only Urgent E-mail to Pentagon staffers
stating, "THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS REPORT IS CLASSIFIED; DO NOT GO
TO FOX NEWS TO READ OR OBTAIN A COPY." Considering Feith's close ties to the
Israelis, such a reaction by his top computer security officer, a Certified
Information System Security Professional (CISSP), is understandable,
although considering the fact that CISSPs are to act on behalf of the public
good, it is also regrettable..

The reference to "third country nationals" in a report that restricts its
dissemination to U.S. coalition partners (Great Britain, Poland, Italy,
etc.) is another indication of the possible involvement of Israelis in the
interrogation of Iraqi prisoners. Knowledge that the U.S. may have been
using Israeli interrogators could have severely fractured the Bush
administration's tenuous "coalition of the willing' in Iraq. General
Taguba's findings were transmitted to the Coalition Forces Land Component
Command on March 9, 2004, just six days before the Spanish general election,
one that the opposition anti-Iraq war Socialists won. The Spanish ultimately
withdrew their forces from Iraq.

During his testimony before the Senate Armed Service Committee, Rumsfeld was
pressed upon by Senator John McCain about the role of the private
contractors in the interrogations and abuse. McCain asked Rumsfeld four
pertinent questions, ". . . who was in charge? What agency or private
contractor was in charge of the interrogations? Did they have authority over
the guards? And what were the instructions that they gave to the guards?"

When Rumsfeld had problems answering McCain's question, Lt. Gen. Lance
Smith, the Deputy Commander of the U.S. Central Command, said there were 37
contract interrogators used in Abu Ghraib. The two named contractors, CACI
and Titan, have close ties to the Israeli military and technology
communities. Last January 14, after Provost Marshal General of the Army,
Major General Donald Ryder, had already uncovered abuse at Abu Ghraib,
CACI's President and CEO, Dr. J.P. (Jack) London was receiving the Jerusalem
Fund of Aish HaTorah's Albert Einstein Technology award at the Jerusalem
City Hall, with right-wing Likud politician Israeli Defense Minister Shaul
Mofaz and ultra-Orthodox United Torah Judaism party Jerusalem Mayor Uri
Lupolianski in attendance. Oddly, CACI waited until February 2 to publicly
announce the award in a press release. CACI has also received grants from
U.S.-Israeli bi-national foundations.

Titan also has had close connections to Israeli interests. After his stint
as CIA Director, James Woolsey served as a Titan director. Woolsey is an
architect of America's Iraq policy and the chief proponent of and lobbyist
for Ahmad Chalabi of the Iraqi National Congress. An adviser to the
neo-conservative Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, Jewish Institute
of National Security Affairs, Project for the New American Century, Center
for Security Policy, Freedom House, and Committee for the Liberation of
Iraq, Woolsey is close to Stephen Cambone, the Undersecretary of Defense for
Intelligence, a key person in the chain of command who would have not only
known about the torture tactics used by U.S. and Israeli interrogators in
Iraq but who would have also approved them. Cambone was associated with the
Project for the New American Century and is viewed as a member of Rumsfeld's
neo-conservative "cabal" within the Pentagon.

Another person considered by Pentagon insiders to have been knowledgeable
about the treatment of Iraqi prisoners is U.S. Army Col. Steven Bucci, a
Green Beret and Rumsfeld's military assistant and chief traffic cop for the
information flow to the Defense Secretary. According to Pentagon insiders,
Bucci was involved in the direction of a special covert operations unit
composed of former U.S. special operations personnel who answered to the
Pentagon rather than the CIA's Special Activities Division, the agency's own
paramilitary group. The Pentagon group included Arabic linguists and former
members of the Green Berets and Delta Force who operated covertly in Iraq,
Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, and Uzbekistan. Titan also uses linguists
trained in the languages (Arabic, Dari, Farsi, Pashto, Urdu, and Tajik) of
those same countries. It is not known if a link exists between Rumsfeld's
covert operations unit and Titan's covert operations linguists.

Another Titan employee named in the Taguba report is Adel L. Nakhla. Nakhla
is a name common among Egypt's Coptic Christian community, however, it is
not known if Adel Nakhla is either an Egyptian-American or a national of
Egypt. A CACI employee identified in the report, Steven Stephanowicz, is
referred to as "Stefanowicz" in a number of articles on the prison abuse.
Stefanowicz is the spelling used by Joe Ryan, another CACI employee assigned
with Stefanowicz to Abu Ghraib. Ryan is a radio personality on KSTP, a
conservative radio station in Minneapolis, who maintained a daily log of his
activities in Iraq on the radio's web site before it was taken down. Ryan
indicated that Stefanowicz (or Stephanowicz) continued to hold his
interrogation job in Iraq even though General Taguba recommended he lose his
security clearance and be terminated for the abuses at Abu Ghraib.

In an even more bizarre twist, the Philadelphia Daily News identified a
former expatriate public relations specialist for the government of South
Australia in Adelaide named Steve Stefanowicz as possibly being the same
person identified in the Taguba report. In 2000, Stefanowicz, who grew up in
the Philadelphia and Allentown areas, left for Australia. On September 16,
2001, he was quoted by the Sunday Mail of Adelaide on the 911 attacks. He
said of the attacks, "It was one of the most incredible and most devastating
things I have ever seen. I have been in constant contact with my family and
friends in the US and the mood was very solemn and quiet. But this is
progressing into anger." Stefanowicz returned to the United States and
volunteered for the Navy in a reserve status. His mother told the Allentown
Morning Call in April 2002 that Stefanowicz was stationed somewhere in the
Middle East but did not know where because of what Stefanowicz said was
"security concerns." His mother told the Philadelphia Daily News that her
son was in Iraq but she knew nothing about his current status.

Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist and
columnist. He served in the National Security Agency (NSA) during the Reagan
administration and wrote the introduction to Forbidden Truth. He is the
co-author, with John Stanton, of "America's Nightmare: The Presidency of
George Bush II." His forthcoming book is titled: "Jaded Tasks: Big Oil,
Black Ops, and Brass Plates."

======================

==========================

Need to Consider Causes of Terror
Michael Meacher, The Guardian


LONDON, 12 May 2004 - The West is losing the war on terror on a global
scale. Despite the revelations of torture, the US-British policy is
unchanged: See this historic struggle through to its conclusion for the sake
of democracy and civilization; apply overwhelming force against terrorists
and extremists; and show unremitting resolve to root out resistance wherever
it is found. Whether it is Americans in Iraq, Israelis in Palestine or the
West against Al-Qaeda, the approach is the same: A policy proclaimed in the
name of freedom, tolerance and a decent world order that, ironically, could
hardly be better calculated to produce the opposite.

The policy is lethally flawed by its unwillingness to contemplate what lies
behind the hatred: Why scores of young people are prepared to blow
themselves up, why 19 highly educated young men were ready to destroy
themselves and thousands of others in the Sept. 11 hijackings, and why
resistance is growing despite the likelihood of insurgents being killed. To
deal with this reality, we first have to understand it.

The appeal of Osama Bin Laden lies in his capacity to radicalize and
mobilize the world's Muslims.

His denunciation of the US military occupation, his condemnation of Arab
states - often seen as western inspired - his invective against US
domination of the Middle East and protection of Israel, and his capacity to
fight back have all resonated in the Arab street.

There are essentially three strategic responses to this. One, which
President Bush has come dangerously close to voicing, is that this is a
clash between Western and Muslim values.

In fact, this would play into Bin Laden's hands. He wants further attacks by
the US and its allies to draw in more Muslims and perhaps trigger the
collapse of secularist traditions and western tendencies in the Islamic
world. It would also have a dangerous impact in western countries with large
Muslim populations.

A second approach, advocated by leading neocons, focuses on military and
economic power. The Afghan and Iraqi wars were both geopolitical - focused
on the establishment of bases in Central Asia and the Middle East - and
oil-centered (securing the two largest remaining sources of hydrocarbons in
the world). But this again is a losing strategy.

Afghanistan is gradually slipping from US hands, with resistance clearly
mounting as the Taleban reorganize and Russian influence steadily grows. Two
years after the war is supposed to have ended, violence still grips much of
the country and there is no sight of an Afghan Army capable of offering
security.

The Iraq imbroglio is even worse. The death of more than 10,000 civilians,
with 20,000 injured and even higher Iraqi military casualties, is
exacerbated, one year on, by the failure to deliver key public services, the
rushed disbanding of the Iraqi Army, rampant unemployment and a gratuitously
heavy-handed US military.

Nor has Al-Qaeda been broken. US intelligence estimates that it still
operates terror cells in as many as 65 countries, with a 50,000-strong pool
of cadres from two generations of Afghan war veterans. It is resilient for
two main reasons: It is the symbol of resistance in the Islamic world
against western domination, and it has built strategic depth by keeping
operational links with some of the largest and deadliest Middle Eastern and
Asian terror groups.

Soon after Sept. 11, Al-Qaeda had lost 16 of its 25 key leaders, but it
adapted and rapidly transformed itself into a more mobile, flexible and
elusive force than before. Despite the "war on terror", over the past two
years, in at least 18 attacks across the world, Al-Qaeda seems to have been
more effective than in the two years before Sept. 11.

Military control, despite significant successes, shows little sign of being
able to eradicate Al-Qaeda - indeed, the more it is cut back, the more it
springs up elsewhere. But there is a third, alternative approach. Above all,
the political dimension must now be given much greater prominence if the
real and deep grievances that drive Al-Qaeda are to be addressed.

That will undoubtedly require some contentious policy changes to be made. In
Iraq it means a clear UN mandate to cover coalition forces and an early date
for their withdrawal. It means the US making clear that it will not maintain
a long-term de facto occupation by retaining military bases, with effective
control over oil, security and the economy.

The Al-Qaeda threat will never be resolved until the US adopts a more
balanced Middle East policy and is prepared to put the necessary pressure on
Israel to secure a viable Palestinian state.

And rather than pursue a self-defeating policy of enforced regime change
against suspect countries, it would be much better to identify countries
where conditions are likely to encourage the proliferation of terrorism, and
to try to pre-empt this by well-structured international economic aid
programs.

These are not utopian objectives, but the US will not budge without much
more pressure from friendly governments. Britain needs to make the case
strongly that continued British support cannot be unconditional. Given Bush'
s acute concern for Tony Blair's political survival - as revealed in Bob
Woodward's latest book - it is a message that should be well understood in
Washington.

If the road from Bali, Kikambala (in Kenya), Casablanca, Riyadh, Jakarta,
Istanbul and Madrid is not to pass through London or Boston, those policies
would provide a much better defense than continuing to rely exclusively on
military control or advance intelligence, vital though both are.

=============================

With regard to Dick Eastman's shrill commentary over the last few days I
wish to publicly thank Mark Robinowitz for his taking the time and doing a
good job of countering Eastman's assertions.

Vince Suave

================================


Mark Robinowitz wrote this in response to my "Best Proof" post.

> Some also smelled jet fuel, for what that is worth. Perhaps the


> zionists ran around and poured jet fuel to confuse people.


==========================

I hope it's coming in clear what an advanced, mature stage American fascism
is in. They can just deny deny deny--doesn't matter who opposes them or how
many. They just carry on secure and intact. Hitler dictatorship was
juvenile by comparison. He was actually the dictator. Here, Bush naps and
plays nintendo, while policy formation and civilian rule was highjacked by
the neocons from the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans, as we learned from
the new Pentagon Papers. So we have a confluence of the world's most
powerful interests, conspiring and competing, recklessly operating thru the
world's greatest military superpower base unchallenged and unchallengable,
given the power imbalance. Only the power of life, of our collective
humaneness, our common will to survive and provide for future generations
can and must overcome this otherwise globally suicidal scourge.

Nick

=============

U.S. Denies Holding Beheading Victim
(AP) - An American civilian who was beheaded in a grisly video posted on an
al-Qaeda-linked Web site was never in U.S. custody despite claims from his
family, a coalition spokesman said Wednesday. The body of Nicholas Berg, 26,
was found Saturday near a highway overpass in Baghdad, the same day he was
decapitated, a U.S. official said. More...

All the way to the top! US Sergeants Face Trial on Iraq Prison Sex Torment
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/fc/World/iraq/news_stories/*http://story.ne
ws.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=574&ncid=574&e=1&u=/nm/20040512/wl_nm/iraq_
dc_58

Western diplomatic sources said Beijing has sent several delegations and
technicians to accelerate Syria's program for extended-range Scud missiles.
The sources said the increased aid was first detected in late 2003 in what
they termed a major development. "The Chinese effort is meant to provide
Syria with technical assistance that it has not been able to receive from
other countries," a diplomatic source said. "The focus is to extend the Scud
from short-range to medium- and even intermediate-range."
http://menewsline.com/stories/2004/may/05_13_1.html


This very important message from Infowars -- others are reaching the same
conclusion!!! It looks like the trickster's tricks don't work once they are
known to be tricksters, once the total criminal deception that is Zionism is
exposed.

--- From Inforwars:

Fishy Circumstances and Flawed Timelines Surround American's Beheading
Infowars.com
05-12-04

UPDATE 12:45PM Central: This just in -- U.S. spokesman says decapitated
American was never held by U.S. forces
http://www.infowars.com/print/iraq/berg.htm

With several news outlets reporting that Berg's family is angry from the US
government over their son's violent death and revelations that "Berg was
detained by Iraqi police at a checkpoint in Mosul on March 24. He was turned
over to U.S. officials and detained for 13 days" (in other words, he was
detained by the US military just prior to his death) -- (AP 5/11/04) we have
to question what really happened and who was really behind Berg's horrific
murder.

We have received several emails from listeners questioning what really
happened including this one:

me and a friend were discussing recent news events and trying to piece
together the information presented to us, thought you might want to look
into this further, they said in the news that nicholas berg was killed 2
weeks ago (i think), however in the video the culprits who killed him said
they were "avenging iraqi prisoner abuse" but those photos weren't released
until last week, so my question is how is that even a possible motive if he
was killed prior to the abuse photos being released?? maybe i am
misinformed but thought id ask the question to someone who would look into
it

And this one:

Hey Alex, I know people like me who have learned not to trust our government
tend to see a conspiracy under every rock. With that said... The picture the
media is now showing of the guy the terrorist beheaded as revenge for what
went on in the Iraqi prisons looks odd to me. If you look at the men dressed
in black, they all seem well fed. Actually most look fat. That bothers me,
because these guys are fighting a war and eating on the run. They are
constantly on the move and should be either very fit and trim or scrawny and
malnourished because of the same reasons. One thing they should not be is
fat like couch potatoes. If you look at all of the photos of the prisoners
who were naked who supposedly were just plucked of the street, most of them
are thin. Just an observation Alex

And this one:

1) extremely convenient "wag the dog" timing at the height of furor
regarding U.S. torture of Iraqis

2) CNN poll question: "Is the Berg killing a reason for withholding any
remaining Iraq prisoner abuse pictures?" Bush has been reported to be
struggling with question of whether Pentagon should release additional
torture photos. Given that the alleged decapitation of Berg was allegedly
prompted by the first wave of torture photos, Bush could now cite "national
security" issues for witholding additional materials.

3) Berg's last known whereabouts was in U.S. custody.

4) Berg shown in video wearing orange jumpsuit known to be of U.S. issue
(compare with pictures at Guantanamo).

5) Berg mysteriously captured by Al-Quaeda (still wearing jumpsuit). Either
he escaped from U.S. captors or U.S. let him out -- with orange suit and
all -- to be immediately apprehended by Al-Quaeda (before he had a chance to
change).

6) Tape obviously spliced together and heavily edited. Goes from a) Berg
sitting in chair talking about family, to b) Berg sitting on floor with
hooded "militants" behind, to c) blurry camera movement, to d) almost
motionless Berg on floor as head cut off.

7) Audio clearly dubbed in.

8) "Arab" reader flips through pages of "statement" and keeps ending up on
the same page. Perhaps doesn't even known enough Arabic to recognize what
page he's on?

9) "Arabs" have lily-white hands and (other exposed) skin.

10) "Arabs" have Western-style body posture and mannerisms.

11) When Berg decapitated, there was almost no blood. If Berg were still
alive at this point, with the cut starting at front of throat, blood would
have been spraying everywhere. Berg's severed head, the floor, Berg's
clothes, and even the hand of the "Arab" who decapitated Berg had no visible
blood on it.

12) Berg's body didn't move while on the ground. Although held down, Berg
would have tried to instinctively wiggle and writhe away from captor's grip.

13) Camera angle made it impossible to see if Berg's eyes were even open.

14) Alleged "scream" from Berg sounded to be that of a woman and was clearly
dubbed in.

15) Berg goes to great trouble to identify himself, providing information
about his family. Why? To elicit greater sympathy? Or to provide a
positive ID. FBI visited Berg family in an attempt to "verify his
identity". Guy in video looks very little like Berg photos provided by
family.

I believe that Berg (or this lookalike character) was first killed (perhaps
by lethal injection, poisoning, etc.), then decapitated after dead (explains
lack of blood spraying everywhere). Berg was killed by Al-Quaeda (known to
be a CIA - Mossad joint venture). Berg video released at height of furor
over U.S. torture of Iraqis and just before Bush was to decide whether to
release additional torture videos. Now torture videos will be witheld from
public for reasons of national security. Now "patriots" everywhere will
laud the virtues of U.S. torture of "enemies". Sensitivity level of public
gets heightened in terms of what's acceptable treatment of prisoners.
Juxtaposed with decapitation, piling naked men into pyramid is nothing.
Such treatment will be considered more and more acceptable even in domestic
situations. George W. Bush sleeps well tonight while Berg family lives in
torture. Serves Berg's father right for opposing Bush and the war of
aggression against Iraq.

Jeff Rense has compiled some important information on Berg's detainment and
questioning what really happened in his article, " Why Did The US Take
Custody Of Nick Berg?"

Two things are for sure:

First, Berg parents feel that their son was abandoned and betrayed by the US
Government.
http://www.kyw1060.com/news_story_detail.cfm?newsitemid=37563

Second: NeoCons have already started to use Nick Berg's murder to justify
torture and more war
http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/editorial/20645.htm

Related Articles:
Why Did The US Take Custody Of Nick Berg?
http://www.rense.com/general52/dmne.htm

Berg Time Line
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/8643835.htm?1c

Nick Berg was on his way out of Iraq. He had been released from the prison
where he had been held for 13 days by Iraqi police for reasons he said he
did not know.
http://tinyurl.com/2kg6y

Nick Berg's Parents Say US Abandoned Him
http://www.kyw1060.com/news_story_detail.cfm?newsitemid=37563

Pa. family angry with American government over son's brutal death
http://pennlive.com/newsflash/pa/index.ssf?/base/news-16/108430077760820.xml

Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/may2004/051104beheadsuscivilian.htm

Awful images change perception of the war
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/05/12/MNGMO6K22R1.D
TL

NeoCons use Nick Berg's murder to justify torture and more war
http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/editorial/20645.htm


(end of Infowars message)

> Mr. Eastman,
> I was hoping to speak with you for a few minutes about your website and
> your thoughts on 9/11. If you could send me a phone number where you
> can best be reached I will contact you. Thanks so much for your time
> Mr. Eastman. Best,
> Laura
> Laura H. Hogan
> Producer
> Fox News Live with Alan Colmes
> Fox News Channel
> 212-301-3493


==================

> You follow this quote with a very good analysis concerning the physical
> evidence at the pentagon. But nowhere in your analysis do you give any
> evidence showing that it was "Zionists" from the pentagon that were the
> perpetrators.

Actually I do give the evidence, but I did not, in that message, walk
readers through the deductions and state other commonly known facts that
needed to be taken into account to make those deductions. I have done this
elsewhere. Let's do it again.

The Pentagon was run by the top in the months leading up to 9-11 by Donald
Rumsfled and his even more active and guiding Assistant Secretary of Defense
Paul Wolfowitz, whose Pentagon brain trust included Rothschild agent Richard
Perle, Rockefeller agents Henry Kissinger and Newt Gingrich. Wolfowitz
devised an invasion plan for Iraq back in 1996 and on the day of 9-11 he
called for the invasion of Iraq. You will also recall that Mohammed Omar,
the head of state in Afganistan had offered to extradite bin Laden if the
U.S. would only provide sufficient 9-11 evidence to establish probable
cause. (How easy it would have been IF probable cause really existed.) Now
Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle, Kissinger, Gingrich are a powerful team to be
involved with "defending our shores" at a time when the only real threat was
(and is) China -- with Kissinger the man who opened up China (for
Rockefeller) and who has been making money selling the benefit of his
connections with Chinese officials to American CEOs etc. Now, given all
that, it is clear that this group of minds guiding the Pentagon would not
have acted perpetrating 9-11 without taking the effect on Israel into
account. And certainly Israel would gain by having US sons and daughters do
the killing-and-maiming-and-being-killed-and-maimed dirty work of taking
down all of the Moslem world's capacity for resisting Israeli regional
imperialism. We know that if these people were involved in the
pre-meditated frame-up the operation would have to clearly benefit Israel
and not harm Israel -- and, yes, Netanyahu (don't make me look up the
spelling!) said on the first or second day that this event would be "good"
for Israel. This means that if the Rumsfeld "Penta-cons" were complict in
9-11 than it would have to have been a course arrived at through
consideration of Zionist objectives by these committed Zionists. Then the
question is, WHERE THEY COMPLICIT? Well, we have the stand-downs (air
defense and intelligence) all put under Rumsfeld's
"not-without-my-direct-approval" control just prior to the attack. But more
than that, we have Rumsfeld immediately "acting the coverup" -- when
clearly he must have known that it was not the Boeing that hit the
entagon -- both his statements, and the mysterious collapse that occured
after the main fires were out and which all to conveniently destroyed the
visible evidence of the too-small hole in the wall. (Remember, Rumsfeld was
missing for 20 minutes -- said to have been involved in rescuing people
from inside the building -- so here was THERE when rescuers were prevented
from entering the building, and only Jewish guys (Rumsfeld and Col Levin)
have been identified as those "with clearance" who were escorting
(selected) survivors out to safety (remember, only "targeted" people were
assigned to the new offices in the refurbished wedge -- and yes, the
offices of Naval Intelligence (independent rival of the CIA) and defense
accounting auditors were the ones who died that day.)


> Granted
> that you may certainly have very good evidence showing that the "Pentagon
> Zionists" were the driving force behind 911. But shouldn't you include
> that evidence as part of your proof if you are going to make such
> assertions?

To me, Zionism is merely the ideology of the Rothschilds and the other
merchant banking families -- they bankrolled it, it is there baby. It
really has nothing to do with Israel or Israelis who have no influence in
interpreting it or applying it in the world.

The actions of Rumsfeld are discussed in articles linked in my
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TRUTHBAZOOKA/message/5

==========

Missile strikes accompany Israeli 'pullout' At least seven Palestinians
have been killed in two Israeli air strikes in a refugee camp in the
southern Gaza Strip, bringing to 16 the number killed since Wednesday.
Witnesses said an Israeli helicopter fired two missiles early on Thursday at
a crowd of people, just hours after an ambush on an Israeli armoured vehicle
by Palestinian resistance fighters left five Israeli soldiers dead in
afah. -- On a bloody table at the morgue lay strewn remains of a
Palestinian fighter torn apart in an Israeli air strike. "There are four
bodies here, all martyrs," said Abu Ahmad, a morgue worker. Inside the
morgue, the grief for 13 Palestinians killed in two days of fighting was
palpable but unspoken. While tending the dead, Abu Ahmad nurtures his own
death wish. "I wish I could die a martyr," he said. "The smell of martyrdom
is sweet."
http://tinyurl.com/yq4c2

==========

For-profit contractors Steven Stephanowicz, John Israel involved with
torture in Iraq

CACI, (referred to as "Khaki" in military circles) was originally called
California Analysis Center Incorporated. It was formed in the 1960s by Harry
Markowitz and Herbert Karr. Markowitz won a Nobel prize in economics in 1990
for his research on stock portfolio diversification. The company's first
federal contracts were for custom-written computer languages that could be
used to build battlefield simulation programs. ... Its profits doubled
between 2001 and 2003, shooting from $22 million (on total revenues of $557
million) to $44 million (on revenues of $843 million). ... CACI is
currently advertising for interrogators to be dispatched to Afghanistan,
Iraq, and Kosovo -- on its website. Would-be interrogators must be
comfortable working under "moderate supervision" providing "intelligence
support for interviewing local nationals and determining there [sic] threat
to coalition forces. Must be able to work with interpreters to gather
intelligence information from multiple sources."

--------------

Private Contractors and Torture at Abu Ghraib, Iraq
By Pratap Chatterjee and A.C. Thompson
Special to CorpWatch
May 7, 2004

Two private military contractors are being investigated for their role in
torture allegations at the Abu Ghraib prison, Iraq: CACI International, Inc.
from Arlington, Virginia, and Titan of San Diego, California. CACI supplied
at least one interrogator while Titan supplied at least two translators
named in a 53-page classified internal Army report written by Major General
Antonio Taguba that have dominated news coverage all over the world. (see
box)

A total of four men -- Steven Stephanowicz, John Israel, Torin Nelson and
Adel Nakhla -- are named in the report. All of them were assigned to work
with the 205th Military Intelligence Brigade, a unit that is currently
stationed in Germany and Italy in support of V Corps, under the command of
Colonel Thomas Pappas.

According to the Army report:

Stephanowicz, a CACI interrogator, "[m]ade a false statement to the
investigation team regarding the locations of his interrogations, the
activities during his interrogations, and his knowledge of abuses." Further,
investigators found, Stephanowicz encouraged Military Police to terrorize
inmates, and "clearly knew his instructions equated to physical abuse."

Israel, apparently misled investigators, denying that he witnessed any
misconduct. The report says that Israel should not even have been in the
place because, he "[d]id not have a security clearance." (It's not clear
whether Israel works for CACI or Titan but CACI officials have denied
employing Israel.)

Nakhla was questioned about the treatment of several detainees accused of
rape and quotes him as saying that two Army sergeants made the prisoners,
who were naked, do "strange exercises" and then "started to stack them on
top of each other" after handcuffing them and shackling their legs.

One civilian stands accused of raping a juvenile Iraqi inmate but the name
of the civilian is not revealed in the report.

"In general, US civilian contract personnel (Titan Corporation, CACI, etc),
third country nationals, and local contractors do not appear to be properly
supervised within the detention facility at Abu Ghraib," military
investigators concluded.

Investigate the Interrogators

William Lawson, the uncle of Staff Sergeant Ivan "Chip" Frederick, one of
the soldiers named in the report who is currently facing a court martial,
told CorpWatch that his nephew told the family that the company employees
were partially responsible for the abuses.

"He tried to complain and that he was told by superior officers to follow
instructions from civilians, contract workers interrogating the Iraqi
prisoners. They said go back down there. Do what the civilian contractors
tell you to do and don't interfere with them and loosen these soldiers up
for interrogation."

Lawson says that the company employees should be investigated and prosecuted
if necessary. "I've spent 23 years in the military including time in
Vietnam. I love this country but I will not allow my nephew to be used as a
scapegoat," he said in a phone interview from his home in Newburg, West
Virginia.

In 2000 Congress passed a law allowing criminal proceedings against Defense
Department contractors working abroad, after civilian contractors with El
Segundo-based DynCorp escaped prosecution on accusations in 2000 of running
a prostitution ring in Bosnia.

CACI, however, denies the allegations and maintains that its workers have
done "a damn fine job." "During a conference call Wednesday with investment
analysts, J.P. "Jack" London, CACI chief executive, said that he still had
not received any information from the government nor had any charges been
filed against the company.

Meanwhile the company has refused to divulge information on its workers in
Iraq but details have been leaking out. Stephanowicz, from Telford,
Pennsylvania, is the son of Jean and James Campbell, who told the Washington
Post that they were reserving judgment about the accusations about his work
in Iraq. "He's 7,000 miles away. How are we supposed to know what's going
on?" James Campbell said.

Another company employee is Joe Ryan, who kept an online blog about his work
at Abu Ghraib. The blog was hosted on the web site of KSTP-AM, a St. Paul,
Minnesota radio station, but has now been removed from the Internet.

In an April 21 entry, Ryan described the praise he and his co-workers
received after turning in an interrogation analysis. "The command was
thrilled and once again the CACI folks have set a high standard for the
younger soldiers to follow," he wrote.

A "Khaki" Background

CACI, (referred to as "Khaki" in military circles) was originally called
California Analysis Center Incorporated. It was formed in the 1960s by Harry
Markowitz and Herbert Karr. Markowitz won a Nobel prize in economics in 1990
for his research on stock portfolio diversification. The company's first
federal contracts were for custom-written computer languages that could be
used to build battlefield simulation programs.

Up until this ugly juncture CACI, which employs roughly 6,300 people, had
quietly pursued an aggressive business strategy, focused on expanding by
acquiring weaker companies, and pumping up its business with the federal
government such as personnel support at the Kelly Air Force base in Texas
and the McLellan Air Force base in California. Its profits doubled between
2001 and 2003, shooting from $22 million (on total revenues of $557 million)
to $44 million (on revenues of $843 million).

Today CACI, like most military industry players, boasts a roster of former
soldiers and spies, including board members Michael Bayer (former Vice
Chairman of the Pentagon's Business Board, and advisor to the Air Force,
Army, U.S. Naval War College, and Sandia National Laboratory), Barbara
McNamara (ex-Deputy Director of the National Security Agency), Arthur L.
Money (former assistant Secretary of Defense), and Larry Welch, (an ex-Air
Force General who served on the joint chiefs of staff during first Bush
adminstration).

But unlike the other military contractors -- aerospace giant Boeing, whose
former exec Darleen Druyun pled guilty last month to criminal conspiracy
charges, or Halliburton, which is suspected of massively overcharging the
Defense Department for gas trucked into Iraq -- CACI has generally stayed
out of trouble.

Indeed, just a few days ago, CACI, Inc., a Virginia-based military
contractor, was basking in the glow of success. In March, the firm, whose
prime business is selling computer systems to the Pentagon and U.S.
intelligence agencies, swallowed up a competitor, prompting the Washington
Post to pronounce the company ready to "compete for the biggest and most
lucrative government technology contracts." While other businesses continue
to struggle notably those whose fortunes aren't hitched to the "war on
terrorism" -- CACI was reporting growth reminiscent of the dot-com era, on
April 21 reporting a 37% surge in net income.

Outsourcing war

CACI is currently advertising for interrogators to be dispatched to
Afghanistan, Iraq, and Kosovo -- on its website. Would-be interrogators must
be comfortable working under "moderate supervision" providing "intelligence
support for interviewing local nationals and determining there [sic] threat
to coalition forces. Must be able to work with interpreters to gather
intelligence information from multiple sources."

The job requires "a Top Secret Clearance (TS) that is current and US
citizenship," according to CACIs site, and candidates must "have at least
two years experience as a military policeman or similar type of law
enforcement/intelligence agency whereby the individual utilized interviewing
techniques."

These private-sector positions exist because the military has downsized its
interrogation units in recent years, several military analysts told
CorpWatch. The cutbacks came as part of longtime Pentagon plans to trim its
personnel levels while expanding spending on tech and weapsons systems, said
David Isenberg, an analyst who follows private military companies for the
British American Security Information Council. In earlier days, before the
ongoing privatization of war, interrogators would typically be trained at
intelligence schools, located at posts like the Armys Ft. Huachuca in
southern Arizona.

Meanwhile, CACI continues to downplay its role in the toture controversy. In
a canned statement issued, May 5, President and CEO J.P. "Jack" London said,
"CACI does not condone or tolerate or endorse in any fashion any illegal,
inappropriate behavior on the part of any of its employees in any
circumstance at any time anywhere. If, regrettably, any CACI employee was
involved in any way at any time in any of the alleged behavior that occurred
in Iraq and has been reported in the media and elsewhere, for those
employees I will certainly personally take immediate, appropriate action."

Pratap Chatterjee is Program Director/ Managing Editor of CorpWatch. A.C.
Thompson is a Staff Writer and Military Researcher for CorpWatch.

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Now for the good bad news:

[Note: I have supported Pat Buchanan for Presidential in every election
year since 1988. While I a few months back wrote that he is a "sonofabitch"
for favoring torture interrogations and still think so -- did you forget he
said that? -- I do detect the man I once respected in this assessment of
the current power and prospects of the "Neo-cons," who, nevertheless,seem to
me to be as much in control as ever.) And remember -- Kerry and his wife,
out-Neo-con even Wolfowitz and are every bit a spare tire in the trunk of
billionaire Zionist coercive debt-slavery world governance -- who so far
have always been able to count on a cosmetic change of party labels to
continue their drive towards restoring pre-American-Revolution racist
exploitative hereditary aristocracy to the global plantation. -- DE]

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May 12, 2004
A Time for Truth
by Patrick J. Buchanan
http://www.antiwar.com/pat/?articleid=2553

With pictures of the sadistic sexual abuse of Iraqis in Abu Ghraib prison
still spilling out onto the front pages, it is not too early to draw some
conclusions.

The neoconservative hour is over. All the blather about "empire," our
"unipolar moment," "Pax Americana" and "benevolent global hegemony" will be
quietly put on a shelf and forgotten as infantile prattle.

America is not going to fight a five- or 10-year war in Iraq. Nor will we be
launching any new invasions soon. The retreat of American empire, begun at
Fallujah, is underway.

With a $500 billion deficit, we do not have the money for new wars. With an
Army of 480,000 stretched thin, we do not have the troops. With April-May
costing us a battalion of dead and wounded, we are not going to pay the
price. With the squalid photos from Abu Ghraib, we no longer have the moral
authority to impose our "values" on Iraq.

Bush's "world democratic revolution" is history.

Given the hatred of the United States and Bush in the Arab world, as
attested to by Egypt's Hosni Mubarak, it is almost delusional to think Arab
peoples are going to follow America's lead.

It is a time for truth. In any guerrilla war we fight, there is going to be
a steady stream of U.S. dead and wounded. There is going to be collateral
damage - i.e., women and children slain and maimed. There will be prisoners
abused. And inevitably, there will be outrages by U.S. troops enraged at the
killing of comrades and the jeering of hostile populations. If you would
have an empire, this goes with the territory. And if you are unprepared to
pay the price, give it up.

The administration's shock and paralysis at publication of the S&M photos
from Abu Ghraib tell us we are not up to it. For what is taking place in
Iraq is child's play compared to what we did in the Philippines a century
ago. Only there, they did not have digital cameras, videocams and the
Internet.

Iraq was an unnecessary war that may become one of the great blunders in
U.S. history. That the invasion was brilliantly conceived and executed by
Gen. Franks, that our fighting men were among the finest we ever sent to
war, that they have done good deeds and brave acts, is undeniable. Yet, if
recent surveys are accurate, the Iraqis no longer want us there.

Outside the Kurdish areas, over 80 percent of Sunnis and Shias view us as
occupiers. Over 50 percent believe there are occasions when U.S. soldiers
deserve killing. The rejoicing around every destroyed military vehicle where
U.S. soldiers have died should tell us that the battle for hearts and minds
is being lost.

Why are we so hated in the Middle East? Three fundamental reasons:

Our invasion of Iraq is seen as a premeditated and unjust war to crush a
weak Arab nation that had not threatened or attacked us, to seize its oil.

We are seen as an arrogant imperial superpower that dictates to Arab peoples
and sustains regimes that oppress them.

We are seen as the financier and armorer of an Israel that oppresses and
robs Palestinians of their land and denies them rights we hypocritically
preach to the world. Until we address these perceptions and causes of the
conflict between us, we will not persuade the Arab world to follow us.

What should Bush do now? He should declare that the United States has no
intention of establishing permanent bases in Iraq, and that we intend to
withdraw all U.S. troops after elections, if the Iraqis tell us to leave.
Then we should schedule elections at the earliest possible date this year.

The Iraqi peoples should then be told that U.S. soldiers are not going to
fight and die indefinitely for their freedom. If they do not want to be
ruled by Sheik Moqtada al-Sadr or some future Saddam, they will have to
fight themselves. Otherwise, they will have to live with them, even as they
lived with Saddam. For in the last analysis, it is their country, not ours.

The president should also offer to withdraw U.S. forces from any Arab
country that wishes us to leave. We have already pulled out of Saudi Arabia.
Let us pull out of the rest unless they ask that we remain. Our military
presence in these Arab and Islamic countries, it would seem, does less to
prevent terror attacks upon us than to incite them.

A presidential election is where the great foreign policy debate should take
place over whether to maintain U.S. troops all over the world, or bring them
home and let other nations determine their own destiny. Unfortunately, we
have two candidates and two parties that agree on our present foreign policy
that is conspicuously failing.

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