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Sethi Knight

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Aug 30, 2007, 12:31:59 AM8/30/07
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Does anyone read this newsgroup? Last time I peeked (years ago - don't
know how many) there was a lot of discussion, even some about OBE.

Appears vacant now for the most part.

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David Mitchell

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Aug 30, 2007, 4:42:36 AM8/30/07
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:31:59 -0500, Sethi Knight wrote:

> Does anyone read this newsgroup? Last time I peeked (years ago - don't
> know how many) there was a lot of discussion, even some about OBE.
>
> Appears vacant now for the most part.

There's the odd post; but most of the regulars have moved on.

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Sethi Knight

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Sep 1, 2007, 12:20:42 AM9/1/07
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David Mitchell <da...@edenroad.demon.co.uk> wrote in
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[...]


>
> There's the odd post; but most of the regulars have moved on.
>

Too bad. Is there an alternate good place for OBE discussion (common,
well-known, recommended)?

David Mitchell

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Sep 1, 2007, 4:52:41 AM9/1/07
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Sorry; but I don't know.

There _are_ various on-line fora; but I've never used them.

Try Google.

Jimmy

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Sep 1, 2007, 4:55:39 AM9/1/07
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On Aug 29, 10:31 pm, Sethi Knight <sethi.kni...@g.ma.il.com> wrote:
> Does anyone read this newsgroup?

I always read this group and yes it is a little slow. That is just
fine with me. I do belong to another OBE group and it is much
busier. A little bit of each, I like.

Jimmy

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Sep 1, 2007, 4:59:06 AM9/1/07
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> David Mitchell <da...@edenroad.demon.co.uk> wrote

Is there an alternate good place for OBE discussion (common,
well-known, recommended)?


Try: To: OBE_New...@yahoogroups.com


Sethi Knight

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Sep 2, 2007, 12:08:11 AM9/2/07
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Jimmy <jpo...@dteworld.com> wrote in news:1188637146.965650.49880
@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:

>
>
> Try: To: OBE_New...@yahoogroups.com
>
>

Thanks, I just joined.

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bcps

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Sep 20, 2007, 11:07:04 PM9/20/07
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"Sethi Knight" <sethi....@g.ma.il.com> wrote in message
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This group was hot several years ago - even to the point of organizing group
meetings (astrally) at the pyramids of Giza and other noteable locations.
We had a website set up and all kinds of stuff. Shortly thereafter, a bunch
of skeptics came in and ruined it for a while. One of the biggest blows to
the group was the tragic death of a very popular poster named "Gunnar".
That was quite sad and it seemed to destabilize the group in the midst of
the onslaught of skeptics.

This caused many regulars to drop out. Without anything to feed on, the
skeptics also left. The group evaporated.

I suppose there is the possibility of recovery. I left a long time ago. I
just now came in to see what was going on. I'm not quite focused on this
situation right now because my lifestyle has changed dramatically. But I
still have an interest which may lead me back to the practice.

Now that the group is practically barren - perhaps we could start again.
The thing is, I think we need to have an updated website with a faq that
would give instructions on how to achieve this state of consciousness and
what to expect when it is unfolding.

Bart


Sethi Knight

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Sep 20, 2007, 11:44:31 PM9/20/07
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"bcps" <n...@home.com> wrote in
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>
> Now that the group is practically barren - perhaps we could start
> again. The thing is, I think we need to have an updated website with a
> faq that would give instructions on how to achieve this state of
> consciousness and what to expect when it is unfolding.
>
> Bart
>
>
>

Hi Bart,

I would like to see the group recover.

I think that I recall your name as one of the accomplished OBE'ers from
when I was lurking? My OBE experiences were all when I was a younger
teen. I'm thinking about trying again in earnest, which is why I thought
about checking the group out. I wasn't really ready to do OBE again at
the time that I originally discovered the group, but I did enjoy the
discussion.

David Mitchell

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Sep 21, 2007, 3:34:47 AM9/21/07
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:07:04 -0400, bcps wrote:

>
> "Sethi Knight" <sethi....@g.ma.il.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns999BEF6551...@216.196.97.142...
>> Does anyone read this newsgroup? Last time I peeked (years ago - don't
>> know how many) there was a lot of discussion, even some about OBE.
>>
>> Appears vacant now for the most part.
>>
>> --
>> knight of the Sethi
>
> This group was hot several years ago - even to the point of organizing group
> meetings (astrally) at the pyramids of Giza and other noteable locations.

> Now that the group is practically barren - perhaps we could start again.


> The thing is, I think we need to have an updated website with a faq that
> would give instructions on how to achieve this state of consciousness
> and what to expect when it is unfolding.

There are lots of web-sites which give instructions on how to achieve
OBE's - the problem is that the methods they describe don't work for
everyone, or reliably for anyone.

If you could devise a method that overcame these faults, you'd probably
spark a lot of interest.

news.infostations

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Sep 21, 2007, 8:18:30 PM9/21/07
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Bart- Is that you?
Some of us pop back in from time to time.
It has been a while for me. . .

Richard-

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bcps

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Sep 22, 2007, 8:04:59 PM9/22/07
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Yep, it is me. All other "barts" are mere phantasms.

Whoo.... whole lot of changes since those days...Remarried - Redivorced.
Got smashed with two tree from Hurricane Charlie and decided to stop working
for a lying/mind control boss so I got fired a week after the storm while I
was still without electricity. Went into temporary retirement for 3 years
after selling my house and have been living off-grid (as an experiment) in
south florida for almost a year. Here is a link to my little web page:
http://users.adelphia.net/~bcps/

I started drinking more beer, lost a lot of creativity, and my interests
turned away from OBE to research UFOs - a subject I use to care very little
about but now have a great deal of interest in. Since UFOs and OBEs have
some relationship, I decided to pop back in here to see what was going on.
Nice to see some of the previous people come back occasionally. I hope you
and all others are doing well.

Bart


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h elmer | espeance

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Sep 24, 2007, 4:40:38 PM9/24/07
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On Sep 19, 2:28 am, Damaeus <no-m...@hotmail.invalid> wrote:
> In news:alt.out-of-body, David Mitchell <da...@edenroad.demon.co.uk> posted
> on Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:42:36 +0100:

>
> > There's the odd post; but most of the regulars have moved on.
>
> Kind of sad. Usenet is perfect for discussions, but so many internet
> newbies think the WWW *is* the internet. Many don't even know usenet
> exists, and the Google interface for posting hasn't helped. People think
> this is a message board. And it seems like so many of the new people who
> discover usenet only want to join for the binaries.
>
> Long Live Usenet!
>
> Damaeus

a lot of us got tired of the trolls and skeptics, better suited for
other forums, forever trying to shoot droopy bullets at the experience

news.infostations

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Sep 24, 2007, 9:51:00 PM9/24/07
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Very nice page. Sad to hear about what got you to it, but that is the sort
of stuff that happens at times. I have been in a major drought with OOBEs
since about the time of the last glory days with the meetings at the
pyramids. Life goes on though. I agree that UFOs are somewhat related to
the OOBE- although I am not sure how at this point.

Here, we have a 2,000 watt solar array, that pays for all but about $30 of
our power a year. We should have gone for 2 more panels, and we may have
been able to break even. Have you ever checked out the Yahoo group
"alternatepower"? There are guys out there who would love to hear about
your set up.
See you out there
Richard


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bcps

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Sep 25, 2007, 10:01:06 PM9/25/07
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2 kilowatts must be nice!

UFOs are somewhat related to OBE because many reports of contact and
abduction sound exactly like OBE. Also, there are a number of researchers
who make the claim that some UFOs come though another dimension.

Bart

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h elmer | espeance

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Sep 25, 2007, 11:13:14 PM9/25/07
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yeah, i agree, better to be free w/ misdirecteds than censored

anyhow, why do you x your posts?

curious

On Sep 24, 10:37 pm, Damaeus <no-m...@hotmail.invalid> wrote:
> In news:alt.out-of-body, h elmer | espeance <espea...@gmail.com> posted on
> Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:40:38 -0700:


>
> > a lot of us got tired of the trolls and skeptics, better suited for
> > other forums, forever trying to shoot droopy bullets at the experience
>

> LOL I remember when I discovered flame wars. I even got involved in a few
> and just laughed myself silly at the whole experience. I only wonder if
> the other folks involved were really as angry as they seemed, or if they
> were laughing, too.
>
> As for the skeptics, I'd rather deal with a wide variety of personalities.
> I've joined some e-mail discussion lists and some of them have gone to the
> opposite extreme. They have a set of beliefs, and if they're questioned at
> all, even if you believe in the topic in general, you are banned from the
> group permanently. Some group owners feel the need to moderate everyone's
> message. I see all things as connected, but if the moderator doesn't see
> the connection, the message is rejected. I hate that, especially after
> I've spent two hours composing it.
>
> Damaeus


David Mitchell

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Sep 26, 2007, 3:46:12 AM9/26/07
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:01:06 -0400, bcps wrote:

> 2 kilowatts must be nice!
>
> UFOs are somewhat related to OBE because many reports of contact and
> abduction sound exactly like OBE. Also, there are a number of researchers
> who make the claim that some UFOs come though another dimension.

...and there are other researchers who think they're both the same thing:
temporal lobe hallucinations.

Have you looked at the work Michael Persinger has done with Transcranial
Magnetic Stimulation?

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h elmer | espeance

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Oct 1, 2007, 10:35:09 PM10/1/07
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On Oct 1, 2:11 am, Damaeus <no-m...@hotmail.invalid> wrote:
> In news:alt.out-of-body, h elmer | espeance <espea...@gmail.com> posted on
> Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:13:14 -0700:

>
> > anyhow, why do you x your posts?
>
> X them? What do you mean?

set them to delete from usenet

Damaeus

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Oct 2, 2007, 12:01:08 AM10/2/07
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In news:alt.out-of-body, h elmer | espeance <espe...@gmail.com> posted on
Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:35:09 -0000:

> set them to delete from usenet

Oh, wow. Thanks for letting me know. I didn't realize I had that option
set. I must have done it for some reason a long time ago when I used to
post here more regularly. I've disabled that.

Damaeus

bcps

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Oct 2, 2007, 12:44:17 AM10/2/07
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"David Mitchell" <da...@edenroad.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:01:06 -0400, bcps wrote:
>
>> 2 kilowatts must be nice!
>>
>> UFOs are somewhat related to OBE because many reports of contact and
>> abduction sound exactly like OBE. Also, there are a number of
>> researchers
>> who make the claim that some UFOs come though another dimension.
>
> ...and there are other researchers who think they're both the same thing:
> temporal lobe hallucinations.
>
> Have you looked at the work Michael Persinger has done with Transcranial
> Magnetic Stimulation?

I've seen some studies done on that. I should do some more research on the
subject.

Hmm, electronic hallucinogens. Sounds like another method of going in
through the back door.

Bart


bcps

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Oct 2, 2007, 5:18:43 AM10/2/07
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"bcps" <n...@home.com> wrote in message
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This is a follow-up. I read a number of articles about TMS. I have not
reached a final conclusion on the matter, however, it does support some
theories I've had.

I consider the five senses... These permit us to observe reality in at
least 7 dimensions - the awareness of time is yet another dimension we can
perceive. We can also describe sexual, emotional, mental, and spiritual
situations as "dimensions".

I feel Michael Persinger is on to something. That would be the stimulation
of the organ of perception and action - the brain. This helps us realize
other dimensions. While it may be true that an unfocused experience can be
described as hallucination - with more focus, a person can get information
about reality that is not readily available to Joe Sixpack.

I also enjoy Dr. Persinger's ideas on self healing. I've always believed we
have the individual ability to heal ourselves if we could only focus. I
believe things like stigmata, telepathy, and even levitation, are possible
with the proper focus of this most important organ.

To sum it all up, I think it is still important for an individual to seek
the divine without external influence - however, a little training would not
be out of line so long as the individual respects the experience.

Bart


rwalton

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Oct 11, 2007, 8:02:39 PM10/11/07
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test
sorry, but I have sent in two posts, adn never have seen them. Trying a
new reader. . .

R

h elmer | espeance

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Oct 12, 2007, 9:11:27 PM10/12/07
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On Oct 2, 12:01 am, Damaeus <no-m...@hotmail.invalid> wrote:
> In news:alt.out-of-body, h elmer | espeance <espea...@gmail.com> posted on

> Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:35:09 -0000:
>
> > set them to delete from usenet
>
> Oh, wow. Thanks for letting me know. I didn't realize I had that option
> set. I must have done it for some reason a long time ago when I used to
> post here more regularly. I've disabled that.
>
> Damaeus

guess it could prove useful for privacy and such - but since posts are
often quoted it isn't always effective . . . i was just curious, no
judgement, maybe i could learn something!

Piccolo Pete

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Jun 30, 2008, 9:36:49 PM6/30/08
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"David Mitchell" <da...@edenroad.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:31:59 -0500, Sethi Knight wrote:
>
>> Does anyone read this newsgroup? Last time I peeked (years ago - don't
>> know how many) there was a lot of discussion, even some about OBE.
>>
>> Appears vacant now for the most part.
>
> There's the odd post; but most of the regulars have moved on.

Thanks to you and your friends....


Piccolo Pete

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Jun 30, 2008, 9:44:13 PM6/30/08
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And there are others who think you are a total dickhead.

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al c.

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Jun 30, 2008, 10:22:28 PM6/30/08
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i also came here years ago........they must've gone to some
forum............perhaps yahoo has something going on. could always
re-read the Monroe books
good bye

SUMO

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Jul 1, 2008, 5:36:56 AM7/1/08
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"Piccolo Pete" <n...@home.com> wrote in message
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Hello, I have recently subscribed to this newsgroup as I'm interested in
OOBE's and Remote Viewing, I have experienced OOBE's and have tried Remote
Viewing with little success. I will keep looking in on the group but there
only seems to be you (Piccolo Pete) and the odd reply being posted which is
a pity as its a fascinating subject.

Keep on posting.


David Mitchell

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Jul 1, 2008, 7:09:36 AM7/1/08
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SUMO wrote:
> Hello, I have recently subscribed to this newsgroup as I'm interested in
> OOBE's and Remote Viewing, I have experienced OOBE's and have tried Remote
> Viewing with little success. I will keep looking in on the group but there
> only seems to be you (Piccolo Pete) and the odd reply being posted which is
> a pity as its a fascinating subject.

Since you have the experiences, why not post some of them yourself?

Richard

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SUMO

If you are interested in experiences, I have written up the majority of ones
I have had in my life. they are here at this link to the pdf file.
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My "OOB" story begins on page 49 of this pdf file
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SUMO

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"Richard" <no...@notthere.com> wrote in message
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Hi

Thanks Richard I'll read the pdf file later, I've also bookmarked the site,
had a quick browse - looks good. David Mitchell reccons I should post my
experiences, I'm thinking about it. Will have to shorten it though for the
post.

Thanks Again.
>


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