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THROUGHOULY DISAPPOINTED - XP IS CRAP

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THE OBSERVER

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Nov 17, 2001, 4:12:29 PM11/17/01
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Now in my second week with XP. First few days -wow. Autodetects hardware and
installs them..wow..no need to mess around with driver disc etc.Excellent.
Well worth the £80.00.

As I start tom use it cracks start to appear.

I'll list some of the problems.

1. Generally slower in moving from windows to windows. (have kept other
applixcations and prgrams to amin. to test the speed of XP. hav 256 RAM amd
1 gig machine. Therefore not my machine)

2. Doesnt auto shut down - tried verything, setting BIOs to deafult,
updating BIOS, even licking its arse ..still wont power down
automatically --have to switch off at back.

3. Wont go into hibernate- checked all the settings etc, but for some reason
it just wont do it.

4. It crashes almost regularly. Although dont have to switch machine off,
(wow..an advancement) it doesnt let me do anything else.

Those are the major ones. How has everybody elses shitty experirence been??

Jay

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Nov 17, 2001, 4:40:17 PM11/17/01
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> Those are the major ones. How has everybody elses shitty experirence
been??

Mine works great. My system is on 24/7 and is rock solid.
XP is the best OS ever released by MS. If you don't like it, just re-sell it
and go back to WinME.


John Capriotti

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Nov 17, 2001, 4:49:14 PM11/17/01
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My experiences started out similar to yours - though I didn't have the power
problems I had frequent lock-up, crashes, and blue screens. Reinstalled,
had similar problems. Popped off my case, replaced a bunch of cables, and
my blue screens went away. Gradually, XP drivers came out for my hardware
and my problems seemed to disappear one by one.

My biggest frustration is running some old apps (apps? I mean games). There
are a few that I'm disappointed won't run.

I can't really judge if it's faster or not - I installed XP on a new PC so I
don't have a point of reference. But really, does it matter? What are my
alternatives ... run 9X? Sure, that may do for a while but eventually I'll
have to switch. You can old run an old OS for so long before you're forced
into it, or just keep using old software.

I was particulairly impressed with System Restore. It sounded kind of
gimmicy to me, but at one point I dicked something up pretty bad, and I
couldn't repair it. Rather than reinstall, I did a restore and everything
worked fine after that. I'm alot less apprehensive about updating drivers
and installing potentially instrusive software now.

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Tim Prince

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Nov 17, 2001, 4:57:11 PM11/17/01
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Actually, XP is optimized for more common recent hardware, and it's possible
to be over-configured. For example, many of the disk write operations are
faster on IDE than on SCSI with XP. Why does everyone assume differently,
and say it couldn't be their machine, because their machine is the best?

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Mark Gillespie

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Nov 17, 2001, 4:56:54 PM11/17/01
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XP running perfectly here. I suggest that most (if not all) of your
problems may be related to mainboard in your system. Is all your hardware
listed as XP compatible?


Will Sutton

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Nov 17, 2001, 5:28:25 PM11/17/01
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Once again we see another person blaming XP for his inadequate performance.
Some people should not be allowed to play with PC's and your one of them.

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DJ!

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Nov 17, 2001, 5:46:03 PM11/17/01
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 21:12:29 -0000, "THE OBSERVER" <nos...@ntwd.com>
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>Those are the major ones. How has everybody elses shitty experirence been??

Installed cleanly (Duron850/256MB/GeForceIIMX), autodetected
everything except my HP3200C scanner and an Acard SCSI card. All my
existing applications work faultlessly.

Rebooted machine only after installing the Java Virtual Machine pack.

C:\> systeminfo
Original Install Date: 3/11/2001, 11:30:02 AM
System Up Time: 12 Days, 11 Hours, 39 Minutes, 9 Seconds

Fastest and most stable incarnation of MS Windows I've ever used.

You were saying?

DJ!

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Nov 17, 2001, 6:55:32 PM11/17/01
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works fine (with classic windows look) in my celeron 566mhz, 256mb ram (dfi
mother board)


Earl

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Nov 17, 2001, 8:03:24 PM11/17/01
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From: "Earl" <eep1-n...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: THROUGHOULY DISAPPOINTED - XP IS CRAP
Date: Saturday, November 17, 2001 6:20 PM

The only problem I have (It's not exacaly a problem either) is I can't get
my old HP CDRW to work. Other than that I have no problems with it at all.
In fact, I could not use my sound card I have in Win2k (I stayed with 98SE
becouse of it) but it works fine in XP (Aureal Vortex1).


Earl

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Nov 17, 2001, 8:06:38 PM11/17/01
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I would use Linux but I would actualy like to use my computer, not just
sit and look at it.


gobbledygook

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Nov 17, 2001, 11:05:09 PM11/17/01
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There seems to be some fairly good empirical evidence that the VIA chipset
(Northbridge, Southbridge, etc.) maybe responsible for a great deal of problems
that folks face. But, if so, is it the fault of xp or is it the fault of VIA?
That's the $64 question of the day. Should VIA be blamed? I'd rather think
not, since the VIA chipset came out more than a year before xp was officially
released.

Will Sutton wrote:

> Once again we see another person blaming XP for his inadequate performance.
> Some people should not be allowed to play with PC's and your one of them.
>

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Aaron Warner

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Nov 18, 2001, 12:17:08 AM11/18/01
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I'm having no problems with XP. Uptime of over 10 days on what would be
considered a "low-end" system on which to run XP on. (PII 366, 128MB RAM).
If anything, my overall system and even internet performance has improved.

Aaron Warner

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yoyo

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Nov 18, 2001, 12:36:46 AM11/18/01
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You don't have an optical usb mouse by any chance do you? I built a
system for a friend and it took me days to find the culprit. Have
tried shutdown fixes from MS but eventually had to toss the mouse.
Just curious
yoyo

On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 21:12:29 -0000, "THE OBSERVER" <nos...@ntwd.com>
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>Now in my second week with XP. First few days -wow. Autodetects hardware and

John B

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Nov 18, 2001, 12:44:41 AM11/18/01
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Earl wrote:

> I would use Linux but I would actualy like to use my computer, not just
> sit and look at it.

In other words, you never actually 'tried' it, or it hurt your head too much
to actually have to 'think' a little?

John
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If you can't figure out Linux, you deserve to be stuck with M$

Rich Pos

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Nov 18, 2001, 1:10:39 AM11/18/01
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 20:05:09 -0800, gobbledygook <"borg111(remove to
respond)"@juno.com> wrote:

>There seems to be some fairly good empirical evidence that the VIA chipset
>(Northbridge, Southbridge, etc.) maybe responsible for a great deal of problems
>that folks face. But, if so, is it the fault of xp or is it the fault of VIA?
>That's the $64 question of the day. Should VIA be blamed? I'd rather think
>not, since the VIA chipset came out more than a year before xp was officially
>released.

Running a VIA apollo pro on a gigabyte mobo with no problems.

RP©

Steve-Rascal

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Nov 18, 2001, 4:23:03 AM11/18/01
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I have an ms optical mouse, with no problems at all.....XP IS THE BEST
OPERATING SYSTEM SO FAR.....as for 'crap' are you sure that description
doesn't apply to your PC
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Nobody_of_Consequence

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Nov 18, 2001, 12:46:01 AM11/18/01
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How would any new os fix bug ridden hardware??
Contrary to Via's claims latest 4 in 1's still don't fix
large file transfer errors.


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Earl

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Nov 18, 2001, 2:45:03 PM11/18/01
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I did "use" it for a while. But what's the point. There are no usefull aps,
It takes ,well actualy you never get it set up. I installed XP in about an
hour and ALL of my apps worked and most of my hardware except a realy old
external RW. People complain that their hardware doesn't work on XP but at
lest most of the time all they have to do is wait for a driver, with Linux
if it doesn't work repalce it. You're probably not going to get a driver.


Will Sutton

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Nov 19, 2001, 6:13:02 AM11/19/01
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XP has worked PERFECTLY on my system.............ALL games have worked
perfectly..............XP was the easiest OS I have ever installed and
setting it up
is just so easy but its NOT foolproof so people like you have problems


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> XP is crap. XP lacks the performance that MS spouted forth.

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Will Sutton

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Nov 19, 2001, 6:18:48 AM11/19/01
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Asus A7V133
Athlon Thunderbird 1.2
512 meg cheap generic ram
Winfast Geforce 3
SB Live value

I have the via chipset and there have been horror stories about data
corruption
due to Southbridge problems. These problems are apparently made worst if
you have a Soundblaster Live card but the latest Bios upgrade is suppose to
help.
Now these problems existed before WinXP so how can you blame XP for problems
with Via ??

btw............my computer has not missed a beat using XP


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gobbledygook

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Nov 20, 2001, 11:51:03 AM11/20/01
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No, you misunderstood me. New os'es aren't supposed to fix hardware bugs, but
aren't new OS'es tested to be compatible with existing hardwares? If it turns
out to be an incompatiblity issue, then that's where the new OS can fix the
problem, but if it's something that's truly a hardware bug, then it's VIA's
problem.

Nobody_of_Consequence wrote:

> How would any new os fix bug ridden hardware??
> Contrary to Via's claims latest 4 in 1's still don't fix
> large file transfer errors.
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Aaron Warner

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Nov 20, 2001, 11:59:14 PM11/20/01
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I'm having no problems with XP. Uptime of over 10 days on what would be
considered a "low-end" system on which to run XP on. (PII 366, 128MB RAM).
If anything, my overall system and even internet performance has improved.

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James Pawsey

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Nov 28, 2001, 5:24:33 PM11/28/01
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my windows XP pro works great, except for treating you like an idiot

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Doug & Raye Lynn

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Nov 28, 2001, 8:34:33 PM11/28/01
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WinXP is Win2k for dummies


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Fred

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Nov 29, 2001, 2:51:38 AM11/29/01
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That would explain why use it? :)

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