OpenBSD people == Masturbating monkeys?
Ignoramus30183
``I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys, in
that they make such a big deal about concentrating on security to the
point where they pretty much admit that nothing else matters to them.''
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> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950
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> ``I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys, in
> that they make such a big deal about concentrating on security to the
> point where they pretty much admit that nothing else matters to them.''
IMHO, Linus is no better than what he says above. Kernel debuggers are
considered "bad" in place of printf all over the place - they both have
their place, but to say one should not be used is just criminal. Maybe
he can live in his own dream world and leave the rest of us to solve
everyday issues. Oh, and the damn Linux SCSI subsystem is just wrong -
what ever happened to true engineered solutions based on standards such
as SCSI CAM (FreeBSD, Tru64 5.x)? That pretty much sums up the whole
Linux experience - hodge-podge code weanies with their head stuck
somewhere making guesses and partial solutions without caring about
engineering rigor or standards.
Getting back to real work now.
Robert Melson
Ignoramus30183 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.30183.invalid> writes:
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950
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> ``I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys, in
Sigh.
<plonk!>
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Linonut
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950
>
> ``I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys, in
> that they make such a big deal about concentrating on security to the
> point where they pretty much admit that nothing else matters to them.''
Good old Linus. He's an asshole of the good kind.
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Linonut
> In article <9NCdnQzJdpPEHOPV...@giganews.com>,
> Ignoramus30183 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.30183.invalid> writes:
>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950
>>
>> ``I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys, in
>
> Sigh.
>
> <plonk!>
Here's Linus' post:
Btw, and you may not like this, since you are so focused on security,
one reason I refuse to bother with the whole security circus is that
I think it glorifies - and thus encourages - the wrong behavior.
It makes "heroes" out of security people, as if the people who don't
just fix normal bugs aren't as important.
In fact, all the boring normal bugs are _way_ more important, just
because there's a lot more of them. I don't think some spectacular
security hole should be glorified or cared about as being any more
"special" than a random spectacular crash due to bad locking.
Security people are often the black-and-white kind of people that I
can't stand. I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating
monkeys, in that they make such a big deal about concentrating on
security to the point where they pretty much admit that nothing else
matters to them.
To me, security is important. But it's no less important than
everything *else* that is also important!
By the way, I've recently installed the 2.6.25.10 kernel, and it
boots to the login screen noticeably more quickly.
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raylopez99
> To me, security is important. But it's no less important than
> everything *else* that is also important!
Linus doesn't know how to prioritize. Typical of a socialist.
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> We ARE as gods and might as well get good at it.
> -- Whole Earth Catalog
Hubris. Inconsistent with your 1% market share. You should be
humble, not arrogant, but as a psychological defense mechanism I
understand your motivation to be arrogant about Linux.
RL
Roy Schestowitz
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____/ Linonut on Thursday 17 July 2008 00:35 : \____
> * Ignoramus30183 peremptorily fired off this memo:
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>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950
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>> ``I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys, in
>> that they make such a big deal about concentrating on security to the
>> point where they pretty much admit that nothing else matters to them.''
>
> Good old Linus. He's an asshole of the good kind.
Another asshole might be that who crossposts to BSD groups for flaming.
Linus mailed me the other day. He's rarely rude, but when he *is*, then people
have it highlighted. It's the same with politicians.
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RL
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Reading Lopez on 'masturbating monkeys', I think
I see what his problem is that leads to the long
thread,'For the SEVENTH time....'
It's himself: *Lopez*.
And maybe he's not getting quite the response he
seems to want, because the answer to it is
simply *all over* cyberspace.
Titeotwawki -- mha [cola 2008 Jly 17]
Hadron
> ____/ Linonut on Thursday 17 July 2008 00:35 : \____
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>> * Ignoramus30183 peremptorily fired off this memo:
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>>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950
>>>
>>> ``I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys, in
>>> that they make such a big deal about concentrating on security to the
>>> point where they pretty much admit that nothing else matters to them.''
>>
>> Good old Linus. He's an asshole of the good kind.
>
> Another asshole might be that who crossposts to BSD groups for flaming.
>
> Linus mailed me the other day. He's rarely rude, but when he *is*, then people
> have it highlighted. It's the same with politicians.
I bet he highlighted it so brightly your fat head almost melted.
Moshe Goldfarb.
>> Linus mailed me the other day. He's rarely rude, but when he *is*, then people
>> have it highlighted. It's the same with politicians.
>
> I bet he highlighted it so brightly your fat head almost melted.
Linux probably asked Schestowitz to never, ever ever mention his name in a
post again because he, Linus, does not wish to be associated with a loon
such as Roy Schestowitz.
I know if I were Linus, that's what I would do.
Roy Schestowitz is the Pat Robertson of the Linux community.
He scares away more potential converts than he converts to the Linux
religion.
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Ezekiel
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> ____/ Linonut on Thursday 17 July 2008 00:35 : \____
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>> * Ignoramus30183 peremptorily fired off this memo:
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>>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950
>>>
>>> ``I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys, in
>>> that they make such a big deal about concentrating on security to the
>>> point where they pretty much admit that nothing else matters to them.''
>>
>> Good old Linus. He's an asshole of the good kind.
>
> Another asshole might be that who crossposts to BSD groups for flaming.
>
> Linus mailed me the other day.
Sure he did Roy... sure he did. Did he email you to tell you that you need
to cut his lawn before the weekend this week because he's having people
over on Saturday? Since you're an unemployed student I bet cutting lawns is
a nice source of "pizza money" for you.
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notbob
> ``I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys...."
Actually, OBSD is ok, it's that herd of cretins the continue to respond to
no-ray-of-lope troll that are the m/m's.
nb
Moshe Goldfarb.
Roy Schestowitz would find a way to screw it up.
He can't even manage to keep his Linux based server from getting hacked and
spewing trojans all over the net.
I wouldn't trust Roy Schestowitz to put batteries in a flashlight.
As for BSD and the OpenBSD crowd, they are good people who work hard to
produce a quality product.
They are not fanatics like the Linux zealots.