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Bluez

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Sep 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/2/98
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I tryed cheapbytes.com, and find linux redhat version 5.1 for $ 2.00 ....
How can it be so cheap ????
Is this really reliable ???

Thx to responces ...

Bluez

Ashwin Bihari

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Sep 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/2/98
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On Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:46:12 +0200, <Bluez> wrote:
> I tryed cheapbytes.com, and find linux redhat version 5.1 for $ 2.00 ....
> How can it be so cheap ????
> Is this really reliable ???

This is the same thing you would get if you went to
ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/redhat-5.1/i386 and got the files from there.
Either you sit there and download the 400+ meg files with a 28.8 modem for
the next week or so you spend the $2 bucks and get it on the CD. Comes to
the same thing..Cheapbytes just FTP's the file, burns them on the CD and
gives it you. Completely realiable..Ofcourse you get no manuals, not that
the manual is of much help to begin with..Regards

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Jim Ross

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Sep 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/2/98
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My friend got it and I use it and it works fine. I think you have to pay
for shipping to but that is also very cheap because shipping is based on
weight and cds are very small and light. Jim


Bluez wrote in message <6sk06s$4ta$1...@platane.wanadoo.fr>...


>I tryed cheapbytes.com, and find linux redhat version 5.1 for $ 2.00 ....
>How can it be so cheap ????
>Is this really reliable ???
>

Bluez

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Sep 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/3/98
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thx u !
:)
Bluez

Ashwin Bihari a écrit dans le message ...


>On Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:46:12 +0200, <Bluez> wrote:

>> I tryed cheapbytes.com, and find linux redhat version 5.1 for $ 2.00 ....
>> How can it be so cheap ????
>> Is this really reliable ???
>

Oacs

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Sep 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/3/98
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In article <cIiH1.667$F7.30...@news.itd.umich.edu>, "Jim Ross" <jkt...@cw-f1.umd.umich.edu> wrote:
>My friend got it and I use it and it works fine. I think you have to pay
>for shipping to but that is also very cheap because shipping is based on
>weight and cds are very small and light. Jim
>
>
>Bluez wrote in message <6sk06s$4ta$1...@platane.wanadoo.fr>...
>>I tryed cheapbytes.com, and find linux redhat version 5.1 for $ 2.00 ....
>>How can it be so cheap ????
>>Is this really reliable ???
>>
>>Thx to responces ...
>>
>>Bluez
>>
>>
>
>

I just ordered redhat from lsl.com, their version was burned in August, so its
got a few (of the many)fixes in there.. and its $1.95 for two cds. not bad Id
say!

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"some might say that they don't believe in heaven, go and tell that to the man who lives in hell"

Christopher Browne

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Sep 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/3/98
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On Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:46:12 +0200, Bluez <Bl...@mail.dotcom.fr> wrote:
>I tryed cheapbytes.com, and find linux redhat version 5.1 for $ 2.00 ....
>How can it be so cheap ????
>Is this really reliable ???

You can get similar "deals" from such places as:

<item> <url url="http://www.cheapbytes.com" name="CheapBytes - a Linux
Discounter">

<item> <url url="http://www.lsl.com" name="Linux System Laboratories
(LSL) a Discounting Linux Reseller">

<item><url url="http://linuxcentral.com" name="Linux Central">

<item> <url url="http://www.all-linux.com" name="WGS's ``All-Linux ''
Shopping Mall">

They are able to sell CDs for $2 because:
a) They get them stamped out in large quantities. Thousands of CDs at
a shot.

b) They do not have developers building their own highly customized
distribution versions that they feel the need to pay.

In effect, they are "leeching" off of the efforts of other enterprises,
notably Red Hat Software, SuSE, and Caldera.

This can be viewed various ways:
i) If Red Hat didn't want to allow them to copy the distributions, then
they shouldn't have set up licensing to permit it.

ii) Any *user* who doesn't buy direct an pay Red Hat/SuSE/Caldera "full
price" is a ****ing leech. How dare they...

iii) Most of these vendors allow the option of passing on a $5
contribution to SIPI (associated with the Debian Project), thus allowing
you to easily and quite directly flow contributions through to people
that are working on Linux. (I have yet to see what SIPI plans to *do*
with the funding, but it's nice to see it...)

c) Note that that's $2 *plus shipping and handling.* You'll find it
difficult to get an order fulfilled for much less than $10.

Mind you, if you can order 10 CDs for $20, and split the shipping costs
across you and your friends, the cost-per-unit does go down rather low.

d) You simply get a CD in a paper envelope. No jewel case, no fancy
packaging, no manuals, no technical support offerings...

They often are able to offer something that is more recent than what the
original vendor will send you as they tend to start selling CDs somewhat
after new versions are available, and thus can avail their editions of
any upgraded packages that may have come out since the initial release
of (say) Red Hat 5.1. As a result, reliability tends to be excellent.
--
"If you want to travel around the world and be invited to speak at a
lot of different places, just write a Unix operating system." (By Linus
Torvalds)
cbbr...@ntlug.org- <http//www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>

Ismet

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Sep 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/3/98
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Bluez wrote in message <6sk06s$4ta$1...@platane.wanadoo.fr>...
>I tryed cheapbytes.com, and find linux redhat version 5.1 for $ 2.00 ....
>How can it be so cheap ????
>Is this really reliable ???
>

Sure it is,

it is suppose to be free, $2 is the cost
of plastic CD, not the Linux software.

some shipping charges will apply.

RedHat easy to install.

happy Linuxing (:-) )

Ismet

Ed Novicki

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Sep 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/3/98
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I have an old version of Redhat Linux (4.2) on a very old AST 486 which
is obviously very proprietary and a very old nondescript monitor. To
date, I haven't been able to get a kernel to recognize that I have a
Sony CRD-254S SCSI CD ROM, a mouse, and I have never gotten x-windows to
work. However, it does allow me to telnet into the local university
where I am taking some programming courses and, of course, to do my C++
programming. So what I'm saying is that although I want more, I don't
want to lose what I have. It took me too long to set up and I could not
reinstall it as is because I already had Linux on the hard drive when I
moved it to the AST. I didn't have to install from the CD ROM.

Can I create boot disks off a windoze machine as the kernel I have now
won't read my CD?

If I can get the boot diskettes, what are the chances that the new 5.2
boot kernel won't read the CD either?

Is upgrading from 4.2 to 5.1 getting me that much?

Is the upgrade going to take me till the "12th of Never"?

TIA

The Appleman

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Sep 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/3/98
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You really should do that. It is VERY LIKELY that the new boots disk WILL
be able to probe and determine your CDROM as well as use it to install. I
put together my computer and installed Linux recently and it found my
AdaptecSCSI1940UW with no problems even though Adaptec just recently
pledged support for Linux. It will find it so I say go for it. The
benefits will outweight any problems you have with it...

Henry

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Bob Tennent

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Sep 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/3/98
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On Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:46:12 +0200, Bluez wrote:
>I tryed cheapbytes.com, and find linux redhat version 5.1 for $ 2.00 ....
>How can it be so cheap ????
>Is this really reliable ???
>
The cheapbytes CDs are fine and their service is prompt and efficient.
*But* if you opt for the $2 CD you don't get a printed instalation
manual. If you're new to Linux or even to RedHat, either download
and print the manual or pay to get a printed manual; you won't regret it.

Bob T.

gippah

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Sep 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/3/98
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Ed Novicki wrote:
>
> I have an old version of Redhat Linux (4.2) on a very old AST 486 which
> is obviously very proprietary and a very old nondescript monitor. To
> date, I haven't been able to get a kernel to recognize that I have a
> Sony CRD-254S SCSI CD ROM, a mouse, and I have never gotten x-windows to
> work. However, it does allow me to telnet into the local university
> where I am taking some programming courses and, of course, to do my C++
> programming. So what I'm saying is that although I want more, I don't
> want to lose what I have. It took me too long to set up and I could not
> reinstall it as is because I already had Linux on the hard drive when I
> moved it to the AST. I didn't have to install from the CD ROM.
>
> Can I create boot disks off a windoze machine as the kernel I have now
> won't read my CD?
>
> If I can get the boot diskettes, what are the chances that the new 5.2
> boot kernel won't read the CD either?
>
> Is upgrading from 4.2 to 5.1 getting me that much?
>
> Is the upgrade going to take me till the "12th of Never"?

If you have nonstandard hardware -- especially your CDROM, you will have
much less headaches getting Slackware to work with it than with Redhat.

ke6...@my-dejanews.com

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Sep 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/5/98
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In article <6sl2tu$vjk$1...@imsp009a.netvigator.com>,

"Ismet" <aun...@netvigator.com> wrote:
> Bluez wrote in message <6sk06s$4ta$1...@platane.wanadoo.fr>...
> >I tryed cheapbytes.com, and find linux redhat version 5.1 for $ 2.00 ....
> >How can it be so cheap ????
> >Is this really reliable ???
> >
>
> Sure it is,
>
> it is suppose to be free, $2 is the cost
> of plastic CD, not the Linux software.
>
> some shipping charges will apply.
>
> RedHat easy to install.
>
> happy Linuxing (:-) )
>
> Ismet
>
> >Thx to responces ...
> >
> >Bluez
> >

Here's my Linux nightmare after getting that Red Hat 5.1 from LSL. Somebody
may have goofed while putting this RH 5.1 package together. Had this be my
first Linux quest, I would have switched to the Mac, lol. While trying to
upgrade from RH 5.0 to 5.1 towards the end, it suggest me to create bootdisk
or LILO. It can't take LILO but looping back to do bootdisk. I inserted
blank disk but neither does accept it. Huh, install process has mind of its
own? Since no other valid choices, I was prepared to boot in floppy. I tried
booting it to LILO just in case but got stuck to LI. LILO was corrupted. I
booted with RH 5.0 boot disk and did "mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /mnt" to
manually install some dependencies but said FS iso9660 not supported by
kernel+_)(*&^%$#@! Yuk, I may have gotten a bogus Red Hat 5.1 from Linux
System Labs. I have installed and reinstalled RH 5.0 for may be 30 times but
5.1 should be better? Anybody have similar experience with package from LSL?
How about the official RH 5.1, was there problem installing? Thanks for any
reply to ke6...@yahoo.com...

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Jim Ross

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Sep 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/6/98
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I used Cheapbytes with no problem. I reinstalled many times. I have two
cdrom drives and the instal program will only use 1 device, but that's it.
Jim


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gippah

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Sep 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/6/98
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> ke6...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
> >Here's my Linux nightmare after getting that Red Hat 5.1 from LSL.
> Somebody
> >may have goofed while putting this RH 5.1 package together. Had this be my
> >first Linux quest, I would have switched to the Mac, lol. While trying to
> >upgrade from RH 5.0 to 5.1 towards the end, it suggest me to create
> bootdisk
> >or LILO. It can't take LILO but looping back to do bootdisk. I inserted
> >blank disk but neither does accept it. Huh, install process has mind of its
> >own? Since no other valid choices, I was prepared to boot in floppy. I
> tried
> >booting it to LILO just in case but got stuck to LI. LILO was corrupted.
> I
> >booted with RH 5.0 boot disk and did "mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /mnt" to
> >manually install some dependencies but said FS iso9660 not supported by
> >kernel+_)(*&^%$#@! Yuk, I may have gotten a bogus Red Hat 5.1 from Linux
> >System Labs. I have installed and reinstalled RH 5.0 for may be 30 times
> but
> >5.1 should be better? Anybody have similar experience with package from
> LSL?
> > How about the official RH 5.1, was there problem installing? Thanks for
> any
> >reply to ke6...@yahoo.com...

Hm.......... this person seems to think tht LSL and cheapbytes is the
same thing. Oh well.

Dan Reynolds

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Sep 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/9/98
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Bluez (Bl...@mail.dotcom.fr) wrote:
: I tryed cheapbytes.com, and find linux redhat version 5.1 for $ 2.00 ....

: How can it be so cheap ????
: Is this really reliable ???
:
: Thx to responces ...
:
: Bluez
:
:
That much?!?!?
Linuxmall has it for $1.49

Mark

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Sep 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/9/98
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Some freaking body wrote:
>: I tryed cheapbytes.com, and find linux redhat version 5.1 for $ 2.00 ....

>That much?!?!?


>Linuxmall has it for $1.49

The difference is cheapbytes will get it to you in about three or four
days...with Linux mall you'll think they walked it over to your local PO.

lsayre

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Sep 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/10/98
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Got my Linux Mall order in about 5 days!

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Man's mind is his basic tool of survival!

Lawrence Sayre <lsa...@stratos.net>
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Jim Ross

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Sep 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/10/98
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Mark wrote in message <6t7dm8$t8v$1...@juliana.sprynet.com>...

>
>Some freaking body wrote:
>>: I tryed cheapbytes.com, and find linux redhat version 5.1 for $ 2.00
....
>
>>That much?!?!?


I think cd production costs $0.50 now. So at $2 cheapbytes is making money
don't you worry. Imagine how many of these disks they're selling...

Jim

Steve Reeves

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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On Wed, 9 Sep 1998 22:38:16 -0400, "Mark" <ube...@m3.sprynet.com>
wrote:

>Some freaking body wrote:
>>: I tryed cheapbytes.com, and find linux redhat version 5.1 for $ 2.00 ....
>
>>That much?!?!?

>>Linuxmall has it for $1.49
>
>The difference is cheapbytes will get it to you in about three or four
>days...with Linux mall you'll think they walked it over to your local PO.

I got my order from LinuxMall in 4 days.. just ordered (for the first
time) from cheapbytes yesterday, and I don't think it'll get here any
faster than LinuxMall did. But that's just my opinion.. :>

(Although, in fairness, I'm on the east coast, Cheapbytes is on the
west, and I think LinuxMall is somewhere in the middle, so LM's
shipping point is closer than Cheapbytes, but oh well.)


Steve
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Oacs

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Sep 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/12/98
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ok another post to add to this... I ordered a RedHat 5.1 gpl from LSL(2 cds
for $1.95), it got here in 5 days. and Im in New Zealand.
Ive installed it and everything.. its cool.

Ciao.

Oacs.

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