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anon

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Sep 12, 2019, 3:05:55 PM9/12/19
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I just looked at an android studio java course on youtube. Java for android is truly one, if not the most ridiculously complex languages there is. What takes just one click on a button in C++ and other IDE languages to setup a procedure, takes multiple steps and lines of code in android java. I was hoping to convert some good programs to android for android phones and tablets, but there is no way I am going to wade through the android java swamp to get it done. What was Google thinking when they chose java for android? I am sure that they think that their auto code line pop up choicess are really wonderful, instead of just making a simple click on a component generate the code automatically.

Shee! I'm out of here!

Arlen Holder

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Sep 12, 2019, 3:49:32 PM9/12/19
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On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 14:05:54 -0500, anon wrote:

> I just looked at an android studio java course on youtube. Java for android is truly one, if not the most ridiculously complex languages there is. What takes just one click on a button in C++ and other IDE languages to setup a procedure, takes multiple steps and lines of code in android java. I was hoping to convert some good programs to android for android phones and tablets, but there is no way I am going to wade through the android java swamp to get it done. What was Google thinking when they chose java for android? I am sure that they think that their auto code line pop up choicess are really wonderful, instead of just making a simple click on a component generate the code automatically.
>
> Shee! I'm out of here!

Without spending a dime, and without needing to register anything with
anyone (try that with Apple for example), you can download & install the
Android Studio development environment, where you can graphically &
programitically create your apps on your desktop & then immediately upload
your app APKs to your phone (or to any phone), in about an hour elapsed
time for your first "hello world" style Android programming app - from
start to finish.

Full source code for more than a dozen apps is already here for you:
o Report: My first "hello world" using Android Studio freeware on Windows worked just fine (in about an hour)
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/aW64zYeBtF0/1b5h3r3PBAAJ>

Good luck.

--
Thank your lucky stars you're coding for Android and not iOS.

nospam

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Sep 12, 2019, 4:19:47 PM9/12/19
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because it runs in a vm, thereby not limiting it to any particular
hardware architecture.

nospam

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Sep 12, 2019, 4:19:48 PM9/12/19
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In article <qle7ga$b1o$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder
<arlen...@arlinghlder.edu> wrote:

>
> Without spending a dime, and without needing to register anything with
> anyone (try that with Apple for example), you can download & install the
> Android Studio development environment, where you can graphically &
> programitically create your apps on your desktop & then immediately upload
> your app APKs to your phone (or to any phone), in about an hour elapsed
> time for your first "hello world" style Android programming app - from
> start to finish.

writing ios apps is completely free, including downloading and
installing xcode.

> Full source code for more than a dozen apps is already here for you:
> o Report: My first "hello world" using Android Studio freeware on Windows
> worked just fine (in about an hour)

as i recall, that took you much longer than an hour.

anon

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Sep 12, 2019, 5:15:22 PM9/12/19
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That is what the youtube lesson was demostrating. A huge amount of work to just get a button to work. I don't have need for pre-written programs. Supposedly you can write programs for android in Python and C++, but I haven't found any demos on how to.


nospam

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Sep 12, 2019, 5:19:16 PM9/12/19
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In article <qlech8$is3$1...@news.mixmin.net>, anon <an...@anonymous.com>
wrote:

> >
> That is what the youtube lesson was demostrating. A huge amount of work to
> just get a button to work.

not huge.

> I don't have need for pre-written programs.
> Supposedly you can write programs for android in Python and C++, but
> I haven't found any demos on how to.

look into kotlin.

Arlen Holder

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Sep 13, 2019, 3:00:36 AM9/13/19
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On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 16:19:48 -0400, nospam wrote:

> writing ios apps is completely free, including downloading and
> installing xcode.

Hi nospam,

Please read what I said, which I repeat, verbatim for you, since you always
seem to be unable to comprehend even the most basic of facts, nospam.

Arlen Holder

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Sep 13, 2019, 3:00:38 AM9/13/19
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On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 17:19:16 -0400, nospam wrote:

> look into kotlin.

For once, nospam has suggested something that's correct, which is that
Kotlin works fine. <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6380186apps15.jpg>

Also, in practice, a lot of the Android code is simple XML, e.g., most of
the GUI (if not all of it) ends up being XML that you graphically create
without having to code anything whatsoever.
<https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com/0dR8Lodl/report-my-first-hello-world-using-android-studio-freeware-on-windows-worked-just-fine-in-about-an>

Given a lot of Android coding is done with the mouse, I suspect the OP,
"anon", simply wants to vent, either as a troll, or because he can't spend
the time it takes to learn something different or new.

The good news is that, with Android, it's trivial to test your code on all
current versions of Android, without even owning a phone.
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3369563helloworld04.jpg>

For example, if anyone needs it, I've tested EVERY freeware Android
emulation program that I could find, and wrote up a thread for each one on
how to install them, and what the pros and cons are.

Googling quickly for those tutorials, here are a couple of them that others
can use to test their Kotlin code on the desktop without needing an Android
device.

o Running Bluestacks4 Android 7.1.1 emulation
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/JBRjZ39w4Ok/6Vzu7rtIAQAJ>

o How to run Andyroid Nougat 7.1 freeware emulator
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/FkZu5vAswYo/wISRtpUUAQAJ>

o How to run Genymotion emulation
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/ix9empN-mxg/lq8ixnZwBAAJ>

Where there are a score of programs I've provided in this tutorial:
o Report: My first "hello world" using Android Studio freeware on Windows
worked just fine (in about an hour)
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/aW64zYeBtF0%5B1-25%5D>
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