xcopy xmove
insaner
clue where i can download these? ive heard of these apps which are used
to move windows from one display to another.. but google is having a
hard time telling me about them.. im currently on fedora (planning a
move to ubuntu soon) thanks in advance
Julian Bradfield
insaner <hoo...@for.spam> wrote:
>anyone have any experience using xcopy and/or xmove for X? or have any
>clue where i can download these? ive heard of these apps which are used
>to move windows from one display to another.. but google is having a
>hard time telling me about them..
Asking Google for xmove works fine for me. In what way are you having a
hard time?
Chris F.A. Johnson
The results I get from Google are for moving files from one
directory to another, not windows to another display (or desktop).
Do you have a link to window-moving commands?
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J.O. Aho
> On 2006-11-24, Julian Bradfield wrote:
>> In article <ek5vsu$jcs$1...@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>,
>> insaner <hoo...@for.spam> wrote:
>>> anyone have any experience using xcopy and/or xmove for X? or have any
>>> clue where i can download these? ive heard of these apps which are used
>>> to move windows from one display to another.. but google is having a
>>> hard time telling me about them..
>> Asking Google for xmove works fine for me. In what way are you having a
>> hard time?
>
> The results I get from Google are for moving files from one
> directory to another, not windows to another display (or desktop).
> Do you have a link to window-moving commands?
>
Think I got a debian xmove as the third result when searching for xmove and
thats for moving X Windows system applications between different X windows
Servers.
//Aho
Michael Heiming
It seems I get a good hit on the first try right on the box I am
typing:
$ rpm -qf `which xmove`
xmove-2.0beta2-9
Iirc tested out a few things with it, but first results weren't
that great and it was a rather low priority task anyway, so I
didn't took the time to look deeper. Likely I have converted it
with alien from a debian package, indeed:
(Converted from a deb package by alien version 8.44.)
Strange enough I get as first hit from google the URL to the
debian package...;-)
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Chris F.A. Johnson
My mistake was searching for both xcopy and xmove.
insaner
sorry about not being clear, but what i meant to say is that since i am
running fedora (mentioned in original post) i cant find a way to get it
onto my system.. ive been looking at xdmcp.. (just now.. havent read the
whole thing) does anyone have any experience messing around with it to
tell me if it will solve my problem? (moving an app from display :0 to
dispaly :1 and so forth.. )
heres what im trying to do.. i have my computer running.. it has a
display :0.. i then ssh from another computer, and i would like to, say,
chat using gaim (over this ssh connection) which is already open and
running on my computer... and then "sending it back" to my computer (or
if the ssh connection dies, that theres no problem.. such as gaim
crashing or dying)
so, anyone know of any solutions?
-
Sybren Stuvel
insaner enlightened us with:
> sorry about not being clear, but what i meant to say is that since i
> am running fedora (mentioned in original post) i cant find a way to
> get it onto my system.. ive been looking at xdmcp.. (just now..
> havent read the whole thing) does anyone have any experience messing
> around with it to tell me if it will solve my problem? (moving an
> app from display :0 to dispaly :1 and so forth.. )
I don't think that's possible. Use Xinerama instead - then you'll have
one two-screen :0 display and you can move windows from one screen to
the other.
> heres what im trying to do.. i have my computer running.. it has a
> display :0.. i then ssh from another computer, and i would like to,
> say, chat using gaim (over this ssh connection) which is already
> open and running on my computer... and then "sending it back" to my
> computer (or if the ssh connection dies, that theres no problem..
> such as gaim crashing or dying)
AFAIK that's impossible too. It'll be much easier to simply run a VNC
server like x11vnc over the SSH tunnel. Of course, I may be wrong - if
so, please correct me.
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Michael Heiming
Iirc this is what xmove is about, moving a running xapp from one
display to another.
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Sybren Stuvel
> Iirc this is what xmove is about, moving a running xapp from one
> display to another.
Thank you, my world has just become a better place ;-)
insaner
>
> Iirc tested out a few things with it, but first results weren't
> that great and it was a rather low priority task anyway, so I
> didn't took the time to look deeper. Likely I have converted it
> with alien from a debian package, indeed:
>
> (Converted from a deb package by alien version 8.44.)
>
> Strange enough I get as first hit from google the URL to the
> debian package...;-)
>
ok, i downloaded the deb, (several actually) then i tried to use alien..
but holey crap if it isnt the most frustrating thing to get to run
properly.. i spent 3 hours trying to get this thing correctly installed
in fedora.. (no packages for it off the bat..) went to some obscure
websites.. downloaded their (trustworthy? i hope) packages and installed
those.. and STILL nothing.. rpmbuild gave a bunch of errors.. and at
last effort, i just extracted the xmove and copied the files manually..
not pleasant... so, question is..
how did YOU get it to work/???
Michael Heiming
[ using alien ]
> ok, i downloaded the deb, (several actually) then i tried to use alien..
> but holey crap if it isnt the most frustrating thing to get to run
> properly.. i spent 3 hours trying to get this thing correctly installed
> in fedora.. (no packages for it off the bat..) went to some obscure
> websites.. downloaded their (trustworthy? i hope) packages and installed
> those.. and STILL nothing.. rpmbuild gave a bunch of errors.. and at
> last effort, i just extracted the xmove and copied the files manually..
> not pleasant... so, question is..
I am really unsure what you were doing? It should be obvious* how
to use alien from the delivered documentation 'man alien'. The
chapter "EXAMPLES" should remove any reaming questions.
Don't know what you want to built? Alien is used to convert
binary packages. Things should just work if you have the
required libs installed.
*OK, it isn't really obvious if you aren't used to reading man
pages, though this problem can be easily overcome. ;-)
Good luck
BTW
It is easier if you simply copy and paste commands and what
output you got instead of "...gave a bunch of errors...".
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> In alt.os.linux insaner <hoo...@for.spam>:
>
> [ using alien ]
>
>> ok, i downloaded the deb, (several actually) then i tried to use alien..
>> but holey crap if it isnt the most frustrating thing to get to run
>> properly.. i spent 3 hours trying to get this thing correctly installed
>> in fedora.. (no packages for it off the bat..) went to some obscure
>> websites.. downloaded their (trustworthy? i hope) packages and installed
>> those.. and STILL nothing.. rpmbuild gave a bunch of errors.. and at
>> last effort, i just extracted the xmove and copied the files manually..
>> not pleasant... so, question is..
>
> I am really unsure what you were doing? It should be obvious* how
> to use alien from the delivered documentation 'man alien'. The
> chapter "EXAMPLES" should remove any reaming questions.
>
> Don't know what you want to built? Alien is used to convert
> binary packages. Things should just work if you have the
> required libs installed.
>
> *OK, it isn't really obvious if you aren't used to reading man
> pages, though this problem can be easily overcome. ;-)
>
> Good luck
>
> BTW
> It is easier if you simply copy and paste commands and what
> output you got instead of "...gave a bunch of errors...".
>
ok sorry i wasnt more explicit, since i gave up i didnt think it would
make a difference.. for the curious, here is roughly what went down.. (i
deleted a few "cd " lines)
ps, rpmu is just an alias to rpm -Uvh
-------------------------------------
[root@localhost debs]# alien -r xmove_2.0beta2-8_i386.deb
-- Examining xmove_2.0beta2-8_i386.deb
tar: control: Not found in archive
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
-- Unpacking xmove_2.0beta2-8_i386.deb
-- Automatic spec file generation
-- Building the package --2.i386.rpm
-bb: unknown option
alien: Error putting together the RPM package.
[root@localhost debs]# ls
- xmove_2.0beta2-7_i386.deb xmove_2.0beta2-8_i386.deb
[root@localhost debs]# ls -/
--2.spec usr/
[root@localhost debs]# ls -/usr/
bin/ lib/ share/
[root@localhost debs]# rm -rf -
[root@localhost debs]# alien -r xmove_2.0beta2-7_i386.deb
-- Examining xmove_2.0beta2-7_i386.deb
tar: control: Not found in archive
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
-- Unpacking xmove_2.0beta2-7_i386.deb
-- Automatic spec file generation
-- Building the package --2.i386.rpm
-bb: unknown option
alien: Error putting together the RPM package.
[root@localhost debs]# alien --version
Alien version 6.53
[root@localhost linux]# rpmu alien/alien-8.37-1.rhfc1.ccrma.noarch.rpm
Preparing... ###########################################
[100%]
1:alien ###########################################
[100%]
[root@localhost debs]# alien -r xmove_2.0beta2-7_i386.deb
Can't locate Alien/Package/Deb.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi/5.8.6
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi/5.8.5
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi/5.8.4
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi/5.8.3
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/5.8.6
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/5.8.5
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/5.8.4
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/5.8.3 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.4/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.4/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6 .) at /usr/bin/alien line 289.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/alien line 289.
[root@localhost debs]# rpmu ../alien/alien-8.46-2.1.i586.rpm
rpmdb: Program version 4.3 doesn't match environment version
error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv->open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: Database
environment version mismatch
error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - (-30974)
warning: cannot open Solve database in
/usr/lib/rpmdb/i386-redhat-linux/redhat
error: Failed dependencies:
deb is needed by alien-8.46-2.1.i586
[root@localhost debs]# rpmu --nodeps ../alien/deb-1.10.27-3.i586.rpm
../html2text-1.3.2a-3.i586.rpm
Preparing... ###########################################
[100%]
1:html2text ###########################################
[ 50%]
2:deb ###########################################
[100%]
[root@localhost debs]# rpmu ../alien/alien-8.46-2.1.i586.rpm
Preparing... ###########################################
[100%]
1:alien ###########################################
[100%]
[root@localhost debs]# alien -r xmove_2.0beta2-7_i386.deb
Package build failed. Here's the log of the command (cd xmove-2.0beta2;
rpmbuild -bb xmove-2.0beta2-8.spec):
error: Legacy syntax is unsupported: copyright
error: line 6: Unknown tag: Copyright: see /usr/share/doc/xmove/copyright
[root@localhost debs]# rpmbuild --help
Usage: rpmbuild [OPTION...]
Build options with [ <specfile> | <tarball> | <source package> ]:
-bp build through %prep (unpack sources and
apply
patches) from <specfile>
-bc build through %build (%prep, then compile)
from <specfile>
-bi build through %install (%prep, %build, then
install) from <specfile>
-bl verify %files section from <specfile>
-ba build source and binary packages from
<specfile>
-bb build binary package only from <specfile>
-bs build source package only from <specfile>
-tp build through %prep (unpack sources and
apply
patches) from <tarball>
-tc build through %build (%prep, then compile)
from <tarball>
-ti build through %install (%prep, %build, then
install) from <tarball>
-ta build source and binary packages from
<tarball>
-tb build binary package only from <tarball>
-ts build source package only from <tarball>
--rebuild build binary package from <source package>
--recompile build through %install (%prep, %build, then
install) from <source package>
--buildroot=DIRECTORY override build root
--clean remove build tree when done
--nobuild do not execute any stages of the build
--nodeps do not verify build dependencies
--nodirtokens generate package header(s) compatible with
(legacy) rpm[23] packaging
--rmsource remove sources when done
--rmspec remove specfile when done
--short-circuit skip straight to specified stage (only
for c,i)
--target=CPU-VENDOR-OS override target platform
Common options for all rpm modes and executables:
-D, --define='MACRO EXPR' define MACRO with value EXPR
-E, --eval='EXPR' print macro expansion of EXPR
--macros=<FILE:...> read <FILE:...> instead of default file(s)
--nodigest don't verify package digest(s)
--nosignature don't verify package signature(s)
--rcfile=<FILE:...> read <FILE:...> instead of default file(s)
-r, --root=ROOT use ROOT as top level directory
(default: "/")
--querytags display known query tags
--showrc display final rpmrc and macro configuration
--quiet provide less detailed output
-v, --verbose provide more detailed output
--version print the version of rpm being used
Options implemented via popt alias/exec:
--dbpath=DIRECTORY use database in DIRECTORY
--with=<option> enable configure <option> for build
--without=<option> disable configure <option> for build
Help options:
-?, --help Show this help message
--usage Display brief usage message
[root@localhost debs]# cd xmove
[root@localhost xmove]# rpmbuild -bb xmove_2.0beta2-7.spec
error: Legacy syntax is unsupported: copyright
error: line 6: Unknown tag: Copyright: see /usr/share/doc//copyright
[root@localhost xmove]# nedit xmove_2.0beta2-7.spec
<i deleted the copyright line here>
[root@localhost xmove]# rpmbuild -bb xmove_2.0beta2-7.spec
error: License field must be present in package: (main package)
<added the license line here>
[root@localhost xmove]# rpmbuild -bb xmove_2.0beta2-7.spec
Processing files: xmove-2-beta2
Provides: libatommap.so.1
Requires(interp): /bin/sh /bin/sh /bin/sh /bin/sh
Requires(rpmlib): rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
Requires(pre): /bin/sh
Requires(post): /bin/sh
Requires(preun): /bin/sh
Requires(postun): /bin/sh
Requires: libX11.so.6 libc.so.6 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) libdl.so.2 libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.1)
Checking for unpackaged file(s): /usr/lib/rpm/check-files
/fittybones/linux/debs/xmove
error: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:
/xmove_2.0beta2-7.spec
RPM build errors:
Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:
/xmove_2.0beta2-7.spec
-------------------------------------
and at this point i just gave up, and manually copied all the files..
J.O. Aho
> RPM build errors:
> Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:
> /xmove_2.0beta2-7.spec
A spec file, hmmm... just download the source, place it in the
/usr/src/redhat/SOURCE and extract the specfile to /usr/src/redhat/SPECS and
then run "rpmbuild -ba /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/xmove_2.0beta2-7.spec" and you
will end up with a RPM (if all the headers are there, you may have to edit the
spec file to get a clean build) in /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386
Michael Heiming
Better get your hands on a working alien version to ease up
things:
# alien -r xmove_2.0beta2-8_i386.deb
xmove-2.0beta2-9.i386.rpm generated
Simply works for me. You don't need to run alien as root, though
it might mess up file owner ship if not.
$ alien --version
alien version 8.44
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insaner
> Better get your hands on a working alien version to ease up
> things:
>
> # alien -r xmove_2.0beta2-8_i386.deb
> xmove-2.0beta2-9.i386.rpm generated
>
> Simply works for me. You don't need to run alien as root, though
> it might mess up file owner ship if not.
>
> $ alien --version
> alien version 8.44
>
but where did you download that version of alien?? what distro are you
running???
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Michael Heiming
Unsure, might be found on www.rpmseek.com, though it seems an
older version, install date was "Sun Jun 20 20:44:08 2004" it
seems to be originally made for PLD. Though alien is just a perl
script so it shouldn't matter at all, as long as you have the
perl modules required to run it installed in @INC.
$ lsb_release -d
Description: CentOS release 3.8 (Final)
Which is a RHEL clone, though it is heavily modified, kernel 2.6
and alike, but this shouldn't make any difference.
Simply get your hands on the latest alien version from the
maintainer and stick it to /usr/local if there is no package for
your distro available, I doubt it isn't but leave it to you
searching for one.
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