[slrn] comp.os.linux is bogus, dropping it
Ohmster
broke compiz by the third one, over a year ago, and no one can fix it,
including me, so I posted to alt.os.linux and comp.os.linux.
I see my post in alt.os.linux, but not comp.os.linux on giganews with
Xnews. On nntp.aioe.org, which is my NNTP SERVER for linux, slrn gave me
the following message at startup:
"comp.os.linux is bogus, dropping it"
I could not find the group anywhere in the sort list of available
newsgroups, and even giganews shows no new posts after May 25th. Is the
comp.os.linux newsgroup dead?
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mjt
Ohmster <ro...@dev.nul.invalid> wrote:
> I could not find the group anywhere in the sort list of available
> newsgroups, and even giganews shows no new posts after May 25th. Is the
> comp.os.linux newsgroup dead?
Been dead since 2005 timeframe. You have to select a sub-group.
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Ohmster
news:20100625111...@ren.site:
>> I could not find the group anywhere in the sort list of available
>> newsgroups, and even giganews shows no new posts after May 25th. Is the
>> comp.os.linux newsgroup dead?
>
> Been dead since 2005 timeframe. You have to select a sub-group.
Ah! Thnx.
Wolfgang Schelongowski
>mjt <myswtest...@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:20100625111...@ren.site:
>
>>> I could not find the group anywhere in the sort list of available
>>> newsgroups, and even giganews shows no new posts after May 25th. Is the
>>> comp.os.linux newsgroup dead?
>>
>> Been dead since 2005 timeframe. You have to select a sub-group.
>
>Ah! Thnx.
Actually, dead since the beginning of the September which never ended:
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SCSI Performance (Yet Again)
From: w...@xivic.bo.open.de (Wolfgang Schelongowski)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 93 12:18:47 MEST
...
As this group expires soon (probably no longer read by the
developers anyway) AND you have a rather up-to-date release
0.99.11 against my 0.99.6 AND a real fast hardware, could you
...
IIRC comp.os.linux.misc etc. were created 1993-08-01, so that
tale coud send the first rmgroup for comp.os.linux on 1993-09-01.
Cf. the indexed archives of control messages of isc.org.
BTW I was wrong about "no longer read by the developers anyway" :-)
A certain Mr. Youngdale did, and found an error in the free-list
of the buffers.
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chuckcar
news:Xns9DA27A1A0A...@216.196.97.131:
> I am having serious problems with Fedora 12 and compiz. System updates
> broke compiz by the third one, over a year ago, and no one can fix it,
> including me, so I posted to alt.os.linux and comp.os.linux.
>
> I see my post in alt.os.linux, but not comp.os.linux on giganews with
> Xnews. On nntp.aioe.org, which is my NNTP SERVER for linux, slrn gave me
> the following message at startup:
> "comp.os.linux is bogus, dropping it"
>
> I could not find the group anywhere in the sort list of available
> newsgroups, and even giganews shows no new posts after May 25th. Is the
> comp.os.linux newsgroup dead?
>
Try comp.os.linux.help or .answers There only seems to be a polish fedora
group for some reason - probably dead too I imagine.
The comp.* hierarchy is pure business and broken into absolute sub
categories. I would suggest in the future to load any group in that
subsection of usenet and read a few posts to see if it's actually the group
you want or not. Not a bad idea for any group actually - but it absolutely
applies in those.
I wouldn't bother with the alt groups myself for such. You might also look
at the howto's and faq's you almost certainly have installed in well named
subdirectories of /usr/doc. You get docs for *everything* in linux, you
just need to know where to look. also try "man compiz" and "info" in a
terminal.
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Moe Trin
<Xns9DA3E5F...@127.0.0.1>, chuckcar wrote:
>Ohmster <ro...@dev.nul.invalid> wrote
>> I could not find the group anywhere in the sort list of available
>> newsgroups, and even giganews shows no new posts after May 25th. Is
>> the comp.os.linux newsgroup dead?
Articles Offered: 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010
comp.os.linux: 2820 883 504 466 147 54
If one looked at the articles before posting, it probably would be
rather obvious that the group is essentially dead.
>Try comp.os.linux.help or .answers
Articles Offered: 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010
comp.os.linux.help 691 391 155 90 73 13
comp.os.linux.answers 2 0 0 2 1 0
Not exactly high traffic newsgroups either. For your information,
comp.os.linux.help was renamed comp.os.linux.misc on 20 March 1995.
'comp.os.linux.answers' is a moderated group - the description says
comp.os.linux.answers FAQs, How-To's, READMEs, etc. about Linux.
In the 1990s, this group received periodic postings of the Linux-FAQ
and a selection of the 450+ HOWTOs and mini-howtos, but that ceased
long ago.
>The comp.* hierarchy is pure business and broken into absolute sub
>categories.
If you look at the monthly post in the newsgroups news.announce.newgroups,
news.groups and news.lists.misc with the title "List of Big Eight
Newsgroups, you'd find there are just 17 big-eight Linux groups:
comp.os.linux.advocacy comp.os.linux.misc
comp.os.linux.alpha comp.os.linux.networking
comp.os.linux.announce comp.os.linux.portable
comp.os.linux.answers comp.os.linux.powerpc
comp.os.linux.development.apps comp.os.linux.security
comp.os.linux.development.system comp.os.linux.setup
comp.os.linux.embedded comp.os.linux.x
comp.os.linux.hardware comp.os.linux.xbox
comp.os.linux.m68k
and c.o.l.announce and c.o.l.answers are moderated. Any other group
in this hierarchy (including comp.os.linux) are not carried by all,
and are not as useful.
>I wouldn't bother with the alt groups myself for such.
The 'alt.' hierarchy isn't as standardized, but the distribution
specific groups in 'alt.os.linux.*' may be more active/useful.
Old guy
mjt
ibup...@painkiller.example.tld.invalid (Moe Trin) wrote:
> >I wouldn't bother with the alt groups myself for such.
>
> The 'alt.' hierarchy isn't as standardized, but the distribution
> specific groups in 'alt.os.linux.*' may be more active/useful.
Agreed ... alt.os.linux.suse has always been a fairly active newsgroup
and quite helpful for those geared to SUSE Linux.
Overall, though, USENET has dropped off significantly in terms
of usage by the community.
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>On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:48:43 -0500
>ibup...@painkiller.example.tld.invalid (Moe Trin) wrote:
>
>> >I wouldn't bother with the alt groups myself for such.
>>
>> The 'alt.' hierarchy isn't as standardized, but the distribution
>> specific groups in 'alt.os.linux.*' may be more active/useful.
>
>Agreed ... alt.os.linux.suse has always been a fairly active newsgroup
>and quite helpful for those geared to SUSE Linux.
As is a.o.l.slackware :)
>
>Overall, though, USENET has dropped off significantly in terms
>of usage by the community.
Yes, seems even the ISPs think the Internet consists of email and the
web -- other protocols are poor cousins.
Grant.
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mjt
Grant <o...@grrr.id.au> wrote:
> >Overall, though, USENET has dropped off significantly in terms
> >of usage by the community.
>
> Yes, seems even the ISPs think the Internet consists of email and the
> web -- other protocols are poor cousins.
I was reading about the decline just recently:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet#Decline
"By 2008, the Usenet's popularity was in steep decline, with some
sources declaring it dead.[27] In May 2010, Duke University, whose
implementation had kicked off Usenet more than 30 years earlier,
decommissioned its Usenet server, citing low usage and rising costs."
Kinda spooky, in a way. I go back in USENET to the mid '90's, although
I can't find a post previous to '97 ... I spent most of my time in
comp.lang.c[++]/java and comp.object groups, eventually spending more
time in the Linux newsgroups.
Believe it or not, I used to enjoy spending time in the COLA group
(earlier days), but those days are gone :)
I see a lot of the ol' regulars still out here and in some of the
other newsgroups I'm currently subscribed to.
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Moe Trin
<bokf26davp1s5vfc9...@4ax.com>, Grant wrote:
>mjt <myswtest...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>ibup...@painkiller.example.tld.invalid (Moe Trin) wrote:
>>> The 'alt.' hierarchy isn't as standardized, but the distribution
>>> specific groups in 'alt.os.linux.*' may be more active/useful.
>> Agreed ... alt.os.linux.suse has always been a fairly active
>> newsgroup and quite helpful for those geared to SUSE Linux.
I scan 12 'alt.os.linux.*' groups - _generally_ useful, although
some less so.
>As is a.o.l.slackware :)
I scanned a.o.l.egotism for a while - gave it up because the group
purpose appeared to be insulting anyone other than regulars.
>> Overall, though, USENET has dropped off significantly in terms
>> of usage by the community.
That's true of most of the groups, technical as well as the
recreational or humorous ones. Sad, really.
>Yes, seems even the ISPs think the Internet consists of email and the
>web -- other protocols are poor cousins.
Protocols - no. http://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers only
lists 148, but few people have heard about more than TCP and maybe
ICMP. Services on the other hand.... hmmm, what is there beyond
the web? Doesn't every hostname on the internet-thingy begin with
"www." and end with ".com"? That's what I hear most users say.
Old guy
Martin
>>As is a.o.l.slackware :)
>
> I scanned a.o.l.egotism for a while - gave it up because the group
> purpose appeared to be insulting anyone other than regulars.
;-) Like most good people. However, things have cooled down a little lately.
It is now quite possible to have a meaningful exchange on a subject.