Walmart PC's with Linux SUCK.
Arnold
really looked like a decent deal to me.
What I didn't realize was that these systems come with a system called
Linux which I have never heard of up until this point.
All I can say is that Linux really sucks.
Virtually nothing I tried to do with this system worked the way it was
supposed to and I was left with some kind of an orphan.
Wlamart support told me that Linux was junk and that I should install
WindowsXP which is what I did and now the unit works pretty good but I
didn't get all I paid for.
If this Linux is as bad as it looks, it's no wonder that people are
willing to pay $100 for Windows because at least Windows works.
Linux should come with a disclaimer stating how much it sucks so that
people can make an informed decision.
AK
Wm Henry Harrison
> I got sucked into buying a Walmart PC based upon the price because it
> really looked like a decent deal to me.
Yes, for someone living in a shed on Workman's Comp, I'm sure it would.
> What I didn't realize was that these systems come with a system called
> Linux which I have never heard of up until this point.
News travels slow in the Ozarks...maybe it's mentioned on some old
newspaper that you stuff your mattress with.
>
> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2293921&cat=86798&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A86796%3A86798&xsell=2592740
>
> All I can say is that Linux really sucks.
That probably is *all* you can say.
> Virtually nothing I tried to do with this system worked the way it was
> supposed to and I was left with some kind of an orphan.
No. The orphan is the child that you and your second cousin had when her
nonna dropped her off on your wooden porch.
> Wlamart support told me that Linux was junk and that I should install
> WindowsXP which is what I did and now the unit works pretty good but I
> didn't get all I paid for.
Walmart support? You mean, you asked one of the greeters how to create a
database and they told you to shove it?
> If this Linux is as bad as it looks, it's no wonder that people are
> willing to pay $100 for Windows because at least Windows works.
An idiot such as yourself could barely run an electric can opener, more or
less an Operating System.
>
> Linux should come with a disclaimer stating how much it sucks so that
> people can make an informed decision.
Yes, I agree. It should read "IDIOTS: BEWARE" .
Gronald
>
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Ditch Brodie
Linux, BSD and the other *nixes are not for ready for the masses yet. And
may never be. That's why their still free.
IMHO they do make excellent servers for special apps and for file and print
sharing. Desktop is pretty good too but you have to know more about what
you're doing than most busy people have time for. For now the *nixes remain
the realm of the mechanical types who like fooling around under the hood
more than hauling down the highway.
WinXP may have set you back $100 but let's face it. Even Unix fans like me
have to submit to the fact that Windows loads and runs on almost every
system out there. Linux and other *nixes don't always settle in so easy on
just any computer.
"Arnold" <karl32sp...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2iurcjF...@uni-berlin.de...
P.H. Thorsted
Mistake number two: Looking at the Walmart site or walking into a Walmart
store.
What did you expect from the leading retail ripoff store.
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:52:09 -0400, Arnold wrote:
Luke Albers
> Mistake number one: dealing with Walmart.
> Mistake number two: Looking at the Walmart site or walking into a Walmart
> store.
>
> What did you expect from the leading retail ripoff store.
>
walmart. Always good deals there, never been ripped off.
--
Luke Albers
Georgia Institute of Technology, Electrical Engineering
Email: gtg...@mail.gatech.edu
Web: www.lukealbers.com
Phillip Gower
words:
> Mistake number one: dealing with Walmart.
> Mistake number two: Looking at the Walmart site or walking into a Walmart
> store.
>
> What did you expect from the leading retail ripoff store.
>
>
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:52:09 -0400, Arnold wrote:
>
>> I got sucked into buying a Walmart PC based upon the price because it
>> really looked like a decent deal to me.
>> What I didn't realize was that these systems come with a system called
>> Linux which I have never heard of up until this point.
It is supplied with lindows V4.0
Fred Garvin
> I got sucked into buying a Walmart PC based upon the price because it
> really looked like a decent deal to me.
> What I didn't realize was that these systems come with a system called
> Linux which I have never heard of up until this point.
Get lost Troll.
Grant Edwards
> I got sucked into buying a Walmart PC based upon the price because it
> really looked like a decent deal to me. What I didn't realize was that
> these systems come with a system called Linux which I have never heard of
> up until this point.
Dude, this is a really bad attempt at trolling. A decent troll needs above
all to be believable. How stupid do you have to be to buy a computer without
finding out what OS comes with it? How far back in a cave do you have to
live to have never heard of Linux?
Do you really expect us to believe you're _that_ stupid and unaware of the
world around you?
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! ... I live in a
at FUR-LINE FALLOUT SHELTER
visi.com
Swedish Meatball
wrote:
> I got sucked into buying a Walmart PC based upon the price because it
> really looked like a decent deal to me.
> What I didn't realize was that these systems come with a system called
> Linux
In other words, you didn't listen to anyone, didn'r ask anyone, didn't try
to find anything out about this 'system' at all. What the fuck did you
do...walk in drooling, and make a grunt and point at something shiny and say
"Me buy that"?
You are a knuckle dragging moron, and deserve to lose more money through
buying XPee. You'll also deserve all the trouble you'll have just getting on
the 'net the first time you do. Have fun with all the viruses, pop-ups,
trojans, and spyware you're going to get...guaranteed with your intelligence.
Arnold the pig was fucking smarter than you are, you retard.
--
Linux 2.4.20-4GB-athlon
7:58pm up 23:23, 2 users, load average: 0.06, 0.05, 0.06
John Thompson
On 2004-06-11, Arnold <karl32sp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I got sucked into buying a Walmart PC based upon the price because it
> really looked like a decent deal to me.
> What I didn't realize was that these systems come with a system called
> Linux which I have never heard of up until this point.
>
> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2293921&cat=86798&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A86796%3A86798&xsell=2592740
>
> All I can say is that Linux really sucks.
It looks like the PC you got came with "LindowsOS" which is only one of
many versions of linux available. Complaining the "linux sucks" after
trying just one distribution is like complaining that "cars suck" after
buying a Yugo.
> Wlamart support told me that Linux was junk and that I should install
> WindowsXP which is what I did and now the unit works pretty good but I
> didn't get all I paid for.
>
> If this Linux is as bad as it looks, it's no wonder that people are
> willing to pay $100 for Windows because at least Windows works.
>
> Linux should come with a disclaimer stating how much it sucks so that
> people can make an informed decision.
"Linux" is not a company or a product; it is the kernel of an
operating system. Perhaps you mean "Walmart PCs should come with a
warning that the installed software sucks so people can make an informed
decision."
--
-John (jo...@os2.dhs.org)
Hendrik van Hees
> I got sucked into buying a Walmart PC based upon the price because it
> really looked like a decent deal to me.
> What I didn't realize was that these systems come with a system called
> Linux which I have never heard of up until this point.
>
>
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2293921&cat=86798&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A86796%3A86798&xsell=2592740
>
> All I can say is that Linux really sucks.
Ehm, are you sure, you got Linux? According to this link you got Lindows
which is a different thing.
Otherwise you would have made a great deal, not buying Microsoft (aka
Redmond Chaos Code).
If I compare my new Laptop (Toshiba Satellite A45 S151) under Linux
(very fast, as I expect it from a 2.8GB Pentium 4) and Windows XP Home
Edition (it's quite slow, even with the good processor). I gave Windows
only a chance, because here in the institute the people work more with
Word and Co. than in my other working places, so that I (horribile
dictu) am forced to use it also, which is kind of a nightmare for me.
So far, I haven't worked under Windows since 1995 (my last experience
was in 1998 with a desaster on another laptop, when I only wanted to
check a web page, my boss created, whether it can be seen properly with
the internet explorer, resulting in setting a bios password so that I
had to send the computer in; from then on I hadn't even Windows on my
hard disk).
I wonder, where under windows are the virtual displays. I have only one
display, where I can put all applications I start at the same time. Cut
and Paste, I found out, works by highlighting something, the pressing
the right mouse button saying copy and then I can paste ist in the same
way.
Under linux's X system you just highlight it and press the middle mouse
button.
Another problem is, that I cannot get my laptop to work with any network
printer here in the institute. Under Linux (SuSE 9.1) this was done by
some mouse clicks in YaST.
These are only some little features which do not work as usual under
Windows. I must say, Linux is much more convenient and straight forward
than Windows.
> Virtually nothing I tried to do with this system worked the way it was
> supposed to and I was left with some kind of an orphan.
> Wlamart support told me that Linux was junk and that I should install
> WindowsXP which is what I did and now the unit works pretty good but I
> didn't get all I paid for.
> If this Linux is as bad as it looks, it's no wonder that people are
> willing to pay $100 for Windows because at least Windows works.
>
> Linux should come with a disclaimer stating how much it sucks so that
> people can make an informed decision.
But Linux works too and even better than Redmond Chaos Code.
> AK
--
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Phone: +1 979/845-1411 Texas A&M University
Fax: +1 979/845-1899 Cyclotron Institute, MS-3366
http://theory.gsi.de/~vanhees/ College Station, TX 77843-3366
Kadaitcha Man
> I must say, Linux is much more convenient and straight
> forward than Windows.
Fucking crap. It's horses for courses; a matter of what you are used to and
what knowledge you have. Fuck me dead, you linuxfux cunts are one-eyed, and
that's blind.
I use both windows and gentoo linux, and I am comfortable working in either,
so don't go blaming a fucking OS for your lack of accomplishments and
limited thinking capabilities, you fucking moron.
Jij bent nu echt een asiocale domme wandelende reklame voor kachelglans,
platgereden slechtbeffende analfabeet.
--
Kadaitcha Man: Registered Linux User #344402
Akhenaten: Registered Linux Machine #235500
gentoo SMP Linux kernel 2.6.6 <-- rolled my own
SchroedingerzKat
>> forward than Windows.
The linux pc's at walmart look like a great deal. They are certainly a cheap
build, probably lower quality than Emachines. But at $199, who cares. You can
add XP home for $55 license, or pay $299 for the same box with XP Home all
pre-installed.
I'd assume the OP was a troll, but he should have checked on the specs of the
box. You can get those Microtel things with SuSE, Lycoris, Lindows, or XP last
I checked. I hear Sun's JDS will be available soon also.
Funny the OP has heard of Usenet and configures his reader just fine, yet has
never heard of Linux.
Michael
Bill Vermillion
Phillip Gower <ph...@aplusdesign.co.uk> wrote:
>On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:08:07 +0000, P.H. Thorsted uttered the immortal
>words:
>> Mistake number one: dealing with Walmart.
>> Mistake number two: Looking at the Walmart site or walking into a Walmart
>> store.
>>
>> What did you expect from the leading retail ripoff store.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:52:09 -0400, Arnold wrote:
>>
>>> I got sucked into buying a Walmart PC based upon the price because it
>>> really looked like a decent deal to me.
>>> What I didn't realize was that these systems come with a system called
>>> Linux which I have never heard of up until this point.
>It is supplied with lindows V4.0
And at one time they had some other Linux variant.
Now they also offer SUN's Java Desktop.
--
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
ray
Lots of us think MS sucks. I run an all Linux household because everyone
here prefers it to MS. Perhaps if you told us what you tried to do that
didn't work, we could help you. Mainly, Linux is no harder to use than MS,
it is only a little different.
Grant Edwards
> Grant Edwards wrote:
> [...]
>> How stupid do you have to be to buy a computer without
>> finding out what OS comes with it? How far back in a cave do you have to
>> live to have never heard of Linux?
>
> Such people do exist, seriously! And there are many of them.
Not in Usenet, and not crossposting to a collection of groups like this.
;)
gnu.misc.discuss
comp.os.linux.advocacy
comp.os.linux.misc
comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
alt.os.windows-xp
alt.locksmithing
alt.feminism
alt.os.linux
alt.os.linux.suse
>> Do you really expect us to believe you're _that_ stupid and unaware of the
>> world around you?
>
> Arnold for sure is a troll, trolling in zillions of randomly-chosen
> newsgroups simultaneously (what the fuck does alt.feminism have to do with
> his problem?)
I really, really don't want to know.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! ... A housewife
at is wearing a polypyrene
visi.com jumpsuit!!
Lute Mullenix
> Amen brother! But what do you want for free.
>
> Linux, BSD and the other *nixes are not for ready for the masses yet. And
> may never be. That's why their still free.
>
> IMHO they do make excellent servers for special apps and for file and print
> sharing. Desktop is pretty good too but you have to know more about what
> you're doing than most busy people have time for. For now the *nixes remain
> the realm of the mechanical types who like fooling around under the hood
> more than hauling down the highway.
>
> WinXP may have set you back $100 but let's face it. Even Unix fans like me
> have to submit to the fact that Windows loads and runs on almost every
> system out there. Linux and other *nixes don't always settle in so easy on
> just any computer.
>
>
Really? On what planet? I bought an IBM Netvista with Windows on it. It
took about a week before I was so fed up with it I scraped it and
installed Debian. But hey the restore CDs to make great coasters.
I have installed Linux and FreeBSD on five different machines, all of
which I knew nothing about when I got them, and have never had a bit of
trouble getting it installed and running. With Windows I quickly got tired
of needing the driver for this or the update for that, I just said screw
it, and installed an OS that worked.
--
Lute
It's OK to be different
FreeBSD 5.2.1 RELEASE
SchroedingerzKat
>
>And at one time they had some other Linux variant.
>
>Now they also offer SUN's Java Desktop.
To my knowledge they have mainly been Microtels. But now there is another
brand too. I've seen SuSE, Lycoris, and Lindows offered by Walmart. They had
a lappy last I checked, it was around $700 and with linux and CDROM. There was
a barebones desktop around $170, add your own harddrive, RAM, and CDRW. Not
really a bad deal for something that's almost ready out of the box.
If I ordered one I'd probably get a JDS one. Or just install Slackware.
Michael
ynotssor
> I got sucked into buying a Walmart PC based upon the price because it
> really looked like a decent deal to me.
> What I didn't realize was that these systems come with a system called
> Linux which I have never heard of up until this point.
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The Black Wibble
> I got sucked into buying a Walmart PC based upon the price because it
> really looked like a decent deal to me.
> What I didn't realize was that these systems come with a system called
> Linux which I have never heard of up until this point.
>
>
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2293921&cat=86798&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A86796%3A86798&xsell=2592740
>
> All I can say is that Linux really sucks.
> Virtually nothing I tried to do with this system worked the way it was
> supposed to and I was left with some kind of an orphan.
No flames, but can you provide more detail? I'd have expected the hardware
for these Walmart PCs to be chosen on the basis of parts ~known~ to have no
problems working with Lindows. I'd have also expected the QC to be pretty
high for the applications and utilities chosen. What things didn't work the way
they were supposed to?
Tony.
Arthur Hagen
>
>
> Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> [...]
>> How stupid do you have to be to buy a computer without
>> finding out what OS comes with it? How far back in a cave do you
>> have to live to have never heard of Linux?
>
Yeah, but how many of those would know how to
a) Post on Usenet
b) Crosspost to two of the most trolled groups on Usenet
c) Crosspost to specific sub-OS groups (remember, he didn't know about
Linux, but apparently knows about FreeBSD)
d) Post from an account in a different country
Besides, he has no idea what a full copy of Windows costs.
This is a troll, plain and simple. From one of the more prolific trolls,
who apparently doesn't have a daytime job.
> Arnold for sure is a troll, trolling in zillions of randomly-chosen
> newsgroups simultaneously (what the fuck does alt.feminism have to do
> with his problem?)
It's the closest he gets to women.
--
*Art
Kadaitcha Man
catchmerevisited
benj...@leubin.ch wrote on 6/11/04 6:08 PM:
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
>
> Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> [...]
>> How stupid do you have to be to buy a computer without
>> finding out what OS comes with it? How far back in a cave do you have to
>> live to have never heard of Linux?
>
> Such people do exist, seriously! And there are many of them. Guess how many
> people there are out there just walking into the next computer
> store (or even worse into a walmart or whatever-mart), buying whatever PC they
> think looks nice or matches the interior of their living room.
> And how many people refer to their computer as a «mine is a 256MB intel
> processor with a 733Hz harddisk». Horrible, but true!
> I know many people that don't give a shit about computers and hence have no
> idea about operation systems and the like. Go and ask any young
> highschool girl out there what she thinks Linux is (to all alt.feminism
> readers: well, face the truth): more than 90% will not even know
> that it has something to do with computers.
>
my mother is one such person, who doesn't know- or think she needs to know,
the difference between hard drive space and RAM.
She DOES know the difference between Mac and Windows (Windows plays more
games, in her opinion- but the Mac crashes less and there's a software guy
who can fix crashes in the family)
she doesn't know the difference between a Pentium and a 486, and I swear she
wants to get the ol' Heathkit running again (SanyoBASIC?)
Face it tho'; if it weren't for the average neophyte (of any gender) who
happened to have a computer fall into their hands, repair shops wouldn't be
needed- most users worth their salt can fix 80% of their problems
themselves.
Charles Chambers
he put on it? If none, no wonder it runs poorly.
Better yet, let's offer to fix it if he pays for shipping BOTH ways for just
the box.
"Arnold" <karl32sp...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2iurcjF...@uni-berlin.de...
Ditch Brodie
wouldn't let anyone take away my server now. I even forced the IT guys at
the office to allow me one on their precious network.
Just look at the install of software:
====================================================================
Windows
setup.exe
(*now hope it all works but at least there are docs and/or support)
====================================================================
====================================================================
FreeBSD
gunzip -c tarball-file.tar.gz
cd tarball-file
./configure --with-perl --libs-some\thing\too\long\to\remember --still-anoth
er switch
make
make install
(*now hope it all works, the only docs around require 10 years of
experience with unix to read)
(*little or no support if any even exists)
====================================================================
That is why *nixes are still not ready for the masses...!
"Lute Mullenix" <lu...@vfemail.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.06.12....@vfemail.net...
Bill Vermillion
Ditch Brodie <dbro...@msn.com> wrote:
>Like I said, Amen Brother....I've been running FreeBSD since 2.2.5 and
>wouldn't let anyone take away my server now. I even forced the IT guys at
>the office to allow me one on their precious network.
>
>Just look at the install of software:
>
>====================================================================
>Windows
> setup.exe
> (*now hope it all works but at least there are docs and/or support)
>====================================================================
>
>
>====================================================================
>FreeBSD
> gunzip -c tarball-file.tar.gz
> cd tarball-file
>
>
>
>
>./configure --with-perl --libs-some\thing\too\long\to\remember --still-anoth
>er switch
> make
> make install
> (*now hope it all works, the only docs around require 10 years of
>experience with unix to read)
> (*little or no support if any even exists)
>====================================================================
>That is why *nixes are still not ready for the masses...!
You appear to be comparing a CD release of MS with some made up
FreeBSD install.
Just stick in the CD on BSD and it's quite similar.
If you are going to use made up install directions you should at
least use some that work, or at least LOOK at FreeBSD.
limestone-cowboy
> I got sucked into buying a Walmart PC based upon the price because it
> really looked like a decent deal to me.
> What I didn't realize was that these systems come with a system called
> Linux which I have never heard of up until this point.
>
>
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2293921&cat=86798&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A86796%3A86798&xsell=2592740
>
> All I can say is that Linux really sucks.
> Virtually nothing I tried to do with this system worked the way it was
> supposed to and I was left with some kind of an orphan.
> Wlamart support told me that Linux was junk and that I should install
> WindowsXP which is what I did and now the unit works pretty good but I
> didn't get all I paid for.
> If this Linux is as bad as it looks, it's no wonder that people are
> willing to pay $100 for Windows because at least Windows works.
>
> Linux should come with a disclaimer stating how much it sucks so that
> people can make an informed decision.
> AK
Numpty.
You got ripped off buying an old Duron 1.6 with bugger all memory and you
are blaming Linux for it?
Dr. Bill
> Hendrik van Hees wrote:
>> I must say, Linux is much more convenient and straight
>> forward than Windows.
>
> Fucking crap. It's horses for courses; a matter of what you are used
> to and what knowledge you have. Fuck me dead, you linuxfux cunts are
> one-eyed, and that's blind.
>
> I use both windows and gentoo linux, and I am comfortable working in
> either, so don't go blaming a fucking OS for your lack of
> accomplishments and limited thinking capabilities, you fucking moron.
>
> Jij bent nu echt een asiocale domme wandelende reklame voor
> kachelglans,
> platgereden slechtbeffende analfabeet.
rofl !
He would run to his mummy to complain about you, if he was n't run over.
John Thompson
> WinXP may have set you back $100 but let's face it. Even Unix fans like me
> have to submit to the fact that Windows loads and runs on almost every
> system out there. Linux and other *nixes don't always settle in so easy on
> just any computer.
Just try getting Windows to install on a DECSystem, Sun Sparc, or SGI
workstation and let us know how it goes...
--
-John (jo...@os2.dhs.org)
Rudolf Polzer
> Like I said, Amen Brother....I've been running FreeBSD since 2.2.5 and
> wouldn't let anyone take away my server now. I even forced the IT guys at
> the office to allow me one on their precious network.
>
> Just look at the install of software:
>
> ====================================================================
> Windows
> setup.exe
> (*now hope it all works but at least there are docs and/or support)
> ====================================================================
>
>
> ====================================================================
> FreeBSD
> gunzip -c tarball-file.tar.gz
Wrong most of the time.
Either:
cd /usr/ports/CATEGORY/PORTNAME
make install
or:
portinstall NAME
or if you want binaries:
pkg_add -r NAME
Linux, Debian for example:
apt-get install NAME
or if you want to compile from source:
apt-get --build source NAME
Most of the time you don't even need to look for a download site.
> ====================================================================
>
> That is why *nixes are still not ready for the masses...!
--
A pumpkin, an eggplant and a tomato are on a truck.
What will fall on a sharp curve?
--> Gur fcrrq.
>> http://www.ccc-offenbach.org <<
Kadaitcha Man
Bite my arse.
;-0
Hendrik van Hees
> Actually, the link is for a pc *without* an OS. I wonder which Linux
> flavor
> he put on it? If none, no wonder it runs poorly.
But the Walmart offer at the OP's URL explicitly states that it comes
with LindowsOS 4.0 operating system.
What the heck is "LindowsOS"? Is it just another distribution of Linux
with a bunch of applications like SuSE, Redhat, Mandrake, Debian,
Slackware, or whatever those might be?
Hendrik van Hees
> FreeBSD
> gunzip -c tarball-file.tar.gz
> cd tarball-file
>
>
>
>
> ./configure --with-perl --libs-some\thing\too\long\to\remember
> --still-anoth er switch
> make
> make install
> (*now hope it all works, the only docs around require 10 years of
> experience with unix to read)
> (*little or no support if any even exists)
> ====================================================================
>
> That is why *nixes are still not ready for the masses...!
Why, can't "the masses" type or copy those lines in a prompt?
Alma
> Really? On what planet? I bought an IBM Netvista with Windows on it. It
> took about a week before I was so fed up with it I scraped it and
> installed Debian. But hey the restore CDs to make great coasters.
I had a similar experience with an IBM NetVista and I ended up returning
it after about a week because it was the slowest Pentium 4 based machine I
had ever used due mostly to all the custom IBM software installed I think.
To be fair, I don't think IBM is any different than any of the other
already loaded and configured machines.
Alma
Trent
SUCKS that is done by all trolls.
Dr. Bill
> Dr. Bill wrote:
>> Kadaitcha Man wrote:
>>> Hendrik van Hees wrote:
>>>> I must say, Linux is much more convenient and straight
>>>> forward than Windows.
>>>
>>> Fucking crap. It's horses for courses; a matter of what you are used
>>> to and what knowledge you have. Fuck me dead, you linuxfux cunts are
>>> one-eyed, and that's blind.
>>>
>>> I use both windows and gentoo linux, and I am comfortable working in
>>> either, so don't go blaming a fucking OS for your lack of
>>> accomplishments and limited thinking capabilities, you fucking
>>> moron.
>>>
>>> Jij bent nu echt een asiocale domme wandelende reklame voor
>>> kachelglans,
>>> platgereden slechtbeffende analfabeet.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> rofl !
>
> Bite my arse.
:-(*)
>
> ;-0
Kadaitcha Man
> There are no DETAILS in your message, just the old, I TRIED IT AND IT
> SUCKS that is done by all trolls.
There are lots of all caps in your message, that is done by fucktards, and
so is top-posting.
Kadaitcha Man
It's not that bad, surely? I eat lots of meusli and prunes.
Dr. Bill
> Dr. Bill wrote:
>> Kadaitcha Man wrote:
>>> Dr. Bill wrote:
>>>> Kadaitcha Man wrote:
>>>>> Hendrik van Hees wrote:
>>>>>> I must say, Linux is much more convenient and straight
>>>>>> forward than Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fucking crap. It's horses for courses; a matter of what you are
>>>>> used to and what knowledge you have. Fuck me dead, you linuxfux
>>>>> cunts are one-eyed, and that's blind.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use both windows and gentoo linux, and I am comfortable working
>>>>> in either, so don't go blaming a fucking OS for your lack of
>>>>> accomplishments and limited thinking capabilities, you fucking
>>>>> moron.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jij bent nu echt een asiocale domme wandelende reklame voor
>>>>> kachelglans,
>>>>> platgereden slechtbeffende analfabeet.
>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>> rofl !
>>>
>>> Bite my arse.
>>
>> :-(*)
>
> It's not that bad, surely? I eat lots of meusli and prunes.
:D
Swampee
> Trent wrote:
>> There are no DETAILS in your message, just the old, I TRIED IT AND IT
>> SUCKS that is done by all trolls.
>
> There are lots of all caps in your message, that is done by fucktards, and
> so is top-posting.
Posting through Google as well.
Must be a troll.
SWAMPSTER
Swampee
> And you posting through Uni-Berlin is so much less anonymous, flatfish?
Once again you paranoid German nutcase, I am not Flatfish and you will
never be able to prove otherwise so why not take your fishing expedition
elsewhere instead of making an ass out of yourself on a daily basis.
SWAMPSTER
Swampshit
> ... making an ass out of ... SWAMPSTER
Reading between the lines often reveals the truth.
--
Swampee likes children's cocks. Read all about it here:
Trent
> Trent wrote:
> > There are no DETAILS in your message, just the old, I TRIED IT AND IT
> > SUCKS that is done by all trolls.
>
> There are lots of all caps in your message, that is done by fucktards, and
> so is top-posting.
Thanks for your useful insight. Again, a message that adds nothing to
anything. Done by 1. morons, 2. idiots, and 3. really really really
stupid people.
Would you be 1, 2, or 3? I would even go for a new classification, 4.
all of the above for you.
What useful thing are you offering again?
Right, you are just a waste of bits and bytes.
Kadaitcha Man
> "Kadaitcha Man" <nos...@kadaitcha.cx> wrote in message
> news:<qaN8kr13eIy5227C...@moon.digi.net.lb>...
>> Trent wrote:
>>> There are no DETAILS in your message, just the old, I TRIED IT AND
>>> IT SUCKS that is done by all trolls.
>>
>> There are lots of all caps in your message, that is done by
>> fucktards, and so is top-posting.
>
> Thanks for your useful insight. Again, a message that adds nothing to
> anything.
And your post did exactly what in that regard, retard?
> Done by 1. morons, 2. idiots, and 3. really really really
> stupid people.
>
> Would you be 1, 2, or 3?
*yawn* yet another IKYABWAI lamer.
washer of kegs
> Hendrik van Hees wrote:
obscenitiessay, Linux is much more convenient and straight
>> forward than Windows.
>
> Fucking crap. It's horses for courses; a matter of what you are used to
> and what knowledge you have. Fuck me dead, you linuxfux cunts are
> one-eyed, and that's blind.
>
> I use both windows and gentoo linux, and I am comfortable working in
> either, so don't go blaming a fucking OS for your lack of accomplishments
> and limited thinking capabilities, you fucking moron.
>
Pardon but who usually gets blamed for spouting obscenities? I also use
both, admining my linux at home but having to rely on the IT department at
work for windows. The standard solution to problems by users is to back-up
the users local data and reinstall. They say they do not have time to
troubleshoot problems. I have yet to see these microsoft anointed ones
perform any sort of hack worthy of the title sys admin. From the evidence
shown to me, the average microsoft advocate is a drooling simpleton.
Swampee
> O
> Remember, this thread started with someone ragging about how their
> WalMart PC with Lindows "sucked." So why exactly is it the "Unix users"
> fault when a major business decides to market a PC using a proprietary
> OS (albeit based on open source) to beginners?
>
> Please direct your frustration in an appropriate direction; i.e. to
> WalMart, perhaps.
Distribution shuffle alert!
SWAMPSTER
Swampee
> Richard Rasker wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:52:09 -0400, Arnold wrote:
>>
>>> I got sucked into buying a Walmart PC based upon the price because it
>>> really looked like a decent deal to me.
>>> What I didn't realize was that these systems come with a system
>>> called Linux which I have never heard of up until this point.
>>>
>>>
> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2293921&cat=86798&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A86796%3A86798&xsell=2592740
>>>
>>> All I can say is that Linux really sucks.
>>> Virtually nothing I tried to do with this system worked the way it
>>> was supposed to and I was left with some kind of an orphan.
>>> Wlamart support told me that Linux was junk and that I should install
>>> WindowsXP which is what I did and now the unit works pretty good but
>>> I didn't get all I paid for.
>>> If this Linux is as bad as it looks, it's no wonder that people are
>>> willing to pay $100 for Windows because at least Windows works.
>>>
>>> Linux should come with a disclaimer stating how much it sucks so that
>>> people can make an informed decision.
>>> AK
>>
>> My guess is that the Walmart sales droids recognized your IQ for what
>> it was the moment you walked in the shop, and decided to have a little
>> fun and sell you a vacuum cleaner instead of a computer, just to see
>> if you'd spot the difference.
>>
> The problem is the 'Walmart sales droids' don't have enough IQ to know the
> difference between a computer and vacuum cleaner.
Linux systems are only sold mail order and for good reason, why waste
valuable shelf space on something that 99 percent of the computer buying
public isn't interested in?
SWAMPSTER
Rod Smith
Hendrik van Hees <he...@comp.tamu.edu> writes:
>
> What the heck is "LindowsOS"? Is it just another distribution of Linux
> with a bunch of applications like SuSE, Redhat, Mandrake, Debian,
> Slackware, or whatever those might be?
Broadly speaking, yes. It's a distribution that's aimed at new Linux
users. Check http://www.linspire.com for details. (They've been forced to
change their name because of Microsoft lawsuits claiming trademark
infringement -- MS claims that "Lindows" is too close to "Windows.")
Lindows is a very poor distribution, IMHO; it uses the root account for
basic access, which of course is a huge security no-no. I had other
problems with it when I tried it a few months ago (see
http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/index.html#lindows for details), but
the security blunder of making root the default login (with no obvious
way to change that) is enough to make me recommend strongly against
anybody using this distribution. I'm much more impressed with Xandros
(http://www.xandros.com) as an introductory Linux distribution.
As to the OP's gripes, I'd recommend that others try a better Linux
distribution. (I figure the OP's mind is closed by this point, though,
assuming the posting wasn't part of an astroturf campaign.) Lindows
really isn't very good, but that doesn't mean that Linux is bad. There
are lots of Linux distributions, each of which has its strengths and
weaknesses. See my Web page (http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/) for my
thoughts on several of them.
--
Rod Smith, rods...@rodsbooks.com
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux, FreeBSD, and networking
Frank Booth
> As to the OP's gripes, I'd recommend that others try a better Linux
> distribution. (I figure the OP's mind is closed by this point, though,
> assuming the posting wasn't part of an astroturf campaign.) Lindows
> really isn't very good, but that doesn't mean that Linux is bad. There
> are lots of Linux distributions, each of which has its strengths and
> weaknesses. See my Web page (http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/) for my
> thoughts on several of them.
Wake up jackasses! How hard is it to see that you're being trolled?
What OS did the OP expect the machine to be loaded with? He's never heard
of this sucky thing called "linux". Right. And the machine was delivered
by Santa Claus and set up by the Easter Bunny.
Life is too short to indulge these cretins. At least wait until they
evolve into morons.
Regards,
Frank
Peter Köhlmann
If you say so, flatfish
--
Like being presumed a thief and a liar before using a product?
If so, use M$ XP
SchroedingerzKat
>basic access, which of course is a huge security no-no.
I heard this is fixed and you run as a regular user now.
As far as security risk, yeah possibly if someone took the time to make an
exploit for something like Firefox. Would be difficult cause linux doesn't
have the holey scripting issues and My Computer Zone like IE and Outlook. And
I doubt Lindows runs many daemons, it's just a desktop OS. Surely it has some
sort of built-in firewall. You can't attack what you can't see.
It's certainly a potential damage risk to be running as root 24/7.
Michael
Gandalf Parker
news:cadk67$6g9$1...@klee.magnet.ch:
>> Do you really expect us to believe you're _that_ stupid and unaware
>> of the world around you?
>
> Arnold for sure is a troll, trolling in zillions of randomly-chosen
> newsgroups simultaneously (what the fuck does alt.feminism have to do
> with his problem?)
>
I highly expect that he is a "player" from alt.troll and is trying to
increase his "score card" (yes alt.troll exists and yes they do keep score)
Usually the inclusion of newsgroups that an individual there already feels
they "own" is a good indication of an alt.troll kiddie
Gandalf Parker
Ed Hodge
happens to have enough knowledge to post to several Linux newsgroups. I
tell ya' someone needs to stop that Bill!!! ;-)
SchroedingerzKat
>increase his "score card" (yes alt.troll exists and yes they do keep score)
How does it work? Seems like some of these trolls make a single post and sit
back and watch. Is the goal to see how many posts you can get in a single
thread?
Just curious.
Michael
wally
> here prefers it to MS. Perhaps if you told us what you tried to do that
> didn't work, we could help you. Mainly, Linux is no harder to use than MS,
> it is only a little different.
Thats bullshit.
John Grimes
Greetings,
Just as an aside, I purchased the cheapest Walmart PC without an
operating installed and installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 and have been satisfied
with the performance thus far. John