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Anyone running Sabayon 5?

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sctvguy1

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Nov 30, 2009, 4:41:43 PM11/30/09
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Just read about this distro, very cool look, and installed it on my
laptop. For some reason, it would not install on my desktop. I read
that it is based on Gentoo, but it appears as a standard GNOME desktop.
Just updating it(very complicated procedure). Just wondering if anyone
has any experience with this version of Linux?

Aragorn

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Nov 30, 2009, 11:33:33 PM11/30/09
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On Monday 30 November 2009 22:41 in alt.os.linux, somebody identifying
as sctvguy1 wrote...

> Just read about this distro, very cool look, and installed it on my
> laptop. For some reason, it would not install on my desktop.

Perhaps you are trying to install a 64-bit operating system on a 32-bit
machine? Without further information and verbatim error messages, we
cannot help you at that. ;-)

> I read that it is based on Gentoo, but it appears as a standard GNOME
> desktop.

You are making a non sequitur statement. Gentoo is a GNU/Linux
metadistribution - a port to FreeBSD also exist, and ports to Windows
and OpenSolaris are under development - but this has nothing to do
whatsoever with what graphical desktop environment you are using.

Gentoo differs from most other GNU/Linux distributions in that it is a
metadistribution, i.e. although the first installation is done with
precompiled packages, the idea is then that you customize the base
system (via USE flags and processor optimization flags) to your own
preferences, and that you install all other software from sources,
using the /emerge/ tool, which downloads the sources and builds them
into binaries on your local machine with the optimization settings
you've set through the USE flags et al.

Gentoo makes no suggestions regarding a graphical user interface and
does not force one upon you. The idea is that you install the system
as you want it, and this could just as well be for server use as for
workstation, home desktop or laptop use. All of this is left to your
own discretion, with a great number of quite excellent manuals
available to you at the Gentoo website.

Sabayon is a Gentoo-based distribution which comes as either a Live CD
or Live DVD, I believe. It installs a desktop-oriented system with the
Gnome desktop using precompiled packages, but from there on, you can
update the system seamlessly in the same way as on normal Gentoo, via
the Portage package management and the /emerge/ commandline tool.

> Just updating it(very complicated procedure).

It's only complicated the first time, because that's where you have to
set your preferences and optimizations. After that, it's relatively
simple to upgrade your entire system to the latest software - "stable"
or "testing", this depends on your own choices and can be set
separately per package - and fully optimized for your hardware.

> Just wondering if anyone has any experience with this version of
> Linux?

Not with Sabayon itself, but I do have some mild experience with Gentoo,
yes, and I will be working with it far more in the near future.

--
*Aragorn*
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

sctvguy1

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Dec 1, 2009, 12:17:45 AM12/1/09
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Aragorn,
Thanks for the reply, you were very helpful. This was out of my league,
so to speak, plus, it was sloooowwww! The download did not say whether it
was 32 or 64 bit, I assumed it was 32. It didn't go on an IBM
PIII/1gHz/512 system, but did install, albeit slowly, on a Celeron 2.2
with 512ram. I returned the laptop to PCLinuxOS 2009.2 and will not mess
with it again!
That updater was a bear on Sabayon, it assumed you knew all about the
distro. I will stick to ones that are more friendly!
Thanks again

J.O. Aho

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Dec 1, 2009, 12:42:52 AM12/1/09
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Aragorn wrote:

> Gentoo makes no suggestions regarding a graphical user interface and
> does not force one upon you. The idea is that you install the system
> as you want it, and this could just as well be for server use as for
> workstation, home desktop or laptop use. All of this is left to your
> own discretion, with a great number of quite excellent manuals
> available to you at the Gentoo website.

In Gentoo application has less often QT support even if the application
supports it, those Gentoo does generally suggest users to use GTK2 based
graphical desktop environments (Gnome2/Xfce).

One example of this is the Mozilla applications which supports the QT toolbox,
but in Gentoo you can only install the GTK2 toolbox.


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//Aho

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