Only if you use iOS: What do you use to interface to Ubuntu 17.10?

[ultred ragnusen]

Only if you use iOS:
What do you use to interface to Ubuntu 17.10?

I have had some success interfacing iOS to Ubuntu 17.10 as shown below over
Wi-FI where Nautilus handles FTP URIs from Android & iOS easily:
https://i.cubeupload.com/hmxM2i.jpg

The apps I tested so far to interface to Linux over WiFi/USB are these:
https://i.cubeupload.com/UfHkAH.jpg

And here's the short list that remains that did something useful:
https://i.cubeupload.com/HtlboC.jpg
- My File Explorer
- WiFi HD
- Transfer
- Air Transfer
- MarkDisk
- WiFi photo

So far this is the status of the four methods:
1. FTP works best on Ubuntu Nautilus
2. HTTP is ok - but requires wget or a web browser
3. SMB might work - but I haven't gotten it to work yet
3. USB should work - so that's a question why it's failing

With respect to USB, plugging in the iOS device into Linux caused it to
show up as a "camera".
http://i.cubeupload.com/q03ayQ.jpg

But doubleclicking on that camera doesn't open up the iPad's file system:
http://i.cubeupload.com/mFy15k.jpg
This location could not be displayed.
Failed to get folder list.
Unspecified error.

Do you know what needs to be done on Linux?

Windows just works with USB so I don't think it's on the iOS side.
https://i.cubeupload.com/OgSZr1.jpg
https://i.cubeupload.com/bDuiA6.jpg

And yes, I always hit the "trust this device" button. :)
https://i.cubeupload.com/ZIG92A.jpg

The two things I haven't gotten to work yet with Ubuntu are smb:
https://i.cubeupload.com/c53HYP.jpg
Mostly because I don't know SMB syntax on either Windows or Linux.

And usb - where mostly I'm asking how to overcome this USB error:
http://i.cubeupload.com/mFy15k.jpg

[ultred ragnusen]

ultred ragnusen <ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:

> The two things I haven't gotten to work yet with Ubuntu are smb:
> https://i.cubeupload.com/c53HYP.jpg
> Mostly because I don't know SMB syntax on either Windows or Linux.
>
> And usb - where mostly I'm asking how to overcome this USB error:
> http://i.cubeupload.com/mFy15k.jpg

Taking only the SMB issue, can you give me a pointer how to get Linux to
create SMB shares that the iOS device can share to?
https://u.cubeupload.com/gp8laa.jpg

Googling, I see there's this Samba server software.
https://www.computerbeginnersguides.com/blog/2017/10/19/install-configure-samba-on-ubuntu-17-10-artful-aardvark/

Is samba the right start point to create SMB shares of the format on Linux?
\\DESKTOP\share

[Steven Petruzzellis]

Total twaddle by an ignorant, fabricating, deceitful, colluding moron who would not tell the truth even if he swore on his mother's grave. Already moved on from that. Keep up!

He would have to be afflicted with mental illness to be unsure of whether or not he "rarely had" designed a program. When someone can not be consistent with his story and utilizes fake, ego protecting hokum later, it's very clear what his trolling is.

I am not going to pretend Vennie Bowden, Realtor didn't give me good advice on my network and I am thankful for his service. Takuya 'The Fool' Saitoh has Vennie Bowden, Realtor as an example and can begin to appear like he has a clue because of this ;) Takuya 'The Fool' Saitoh wants to hurt the whole group: If he can't get attention here then no one will.

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[Auric__]

Yes. It's meant for Windows interoperability, but it'll work with Apple
devices as well.

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do not own a computer; do not power it on; and do not use it.
-- Robert Morris

[Steven Petruzzellis]

This forum is a cesspool. When I first posted, I wanted to be unprejudiced and nonjudgemental. I gave Allah more than a rational person should.

Fool!

They insist searching for advice for a Linux application is attacking.

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[Eef Hartman]

Auric__ <not.m...@email.address> wrote:
> The three golden rules to ensure computer security are:
> do not own a computer; do not power it on; and do not use it.

And rule 4 is:
Do not connect it to any network

[Steven Petruzzellis]

Adam LeMond and the other trolls suggest looking for guidance for an open source application is wrong. I don't know if there is a no-cost open source solution. Adam LeMond lies that he uses Android, while actually he never installed it on a real system and really experienced it. Real discussion will not be seen once the druggies overindulge. That, and there will repeatedly be a butthurt insomniac or more in an unmoderated group (e.g. Adam LeMond). The current tantrum aside, we've all seen who regularly gets enraged when he doesn't get a catch on his hook. Turns out Adam LeMond's persistent referencing of Autumn Nissen met his own definition of trolling, so he insisted that comment of his was forged by Autumn Nissen.



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[ultred ragnusen]

Auric__ <not.m...@email.address> wrote:

> Yes. It's meant for Windows interoperability, but it'll work with Apple
> devices as well.

Thanks Auric__ for reaffirming that Samba is what to add to Ubuntu to add
both an SMB server and the SMB client (apparently named smbclient).

Here's what I will try, so that others can benefit from the efforts and so
that the results will be archived for future use in the tribal archives at
http://tinyurl.com/alt-os-linux

I'll assume user "x" is already set up on the iOS SMB client software.
I'll then run on Ubuntu 17.10:
sudo apt-get install samba # Install Samba server & client software
sudo smbpasswd -a x # Create a Samba user outside of Linux passwords
mkdir /home/x/share # Don't use sudo as it should be owned by the user
sudo cp /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.orig # Back it up 1st
sudo vi /etc/samba/smb.conf # Edit the Samba configuration file as needed

Add the following:
[share] # This names the folder share \\DESKTOP\share
path = /home/x/share # This provides the location of the shared folder
available = yes # Make it available to clients on the network
valid users = x # Make it available to user x on the network
read only = no # Allow clients to write to the share
browseable = yes # Allow clients to browse the share
public = yes #
writable = yes # Allow clients to write to the share

sudo /etc/init.d/smbd restart # Create binary config & activate the share
sudo testparm # Test if Samba is working

REFERENCE:
https://www.computerbeginnersguides.com/blog/2017/10/19/install-configure-samba-on-ubuntu-17-10-artful-aardvark/

[ultred ragnusen]

Eef Hartman <E.J.M....@gmail.com> wrote:

> And rule 4 is:
> Do not connect it to any network

Just to stay on topic, the methods I've used to connect to Linux include
the following, which also worked on Windows.

FREEWARE, NO ADDITIONAL (NON-NATIVE) SOFTWARE REQUIRED ON THE DESKTOP:
1. USB (seamless both ways on Windows, seamless only one way on Linux)
2. FTP server (seamless both ways on Windows & Linux)
3. HTTP server (seamless both ways on Windows & Linux)
4. Bluetooth (this would work but I don't have BT or WiFi on my desktop)
5. SMB server (probably works - need to explore smb:// URIs on Win/Linux)
6. SMB client (works both ways on Windows - I will put Samba on Linux)
7. App server (works both ways, e.g., VLC, perhaps it's just using http)

Bear in mind, the list above is what was suggested on the Windows and iOS
newsgroups, where almost everything tested on Windows will work on Linux
without any additional software on Linux (e.g., USB, FTP, HTTP, BT), or
with minimal addition of software (e.g., SMB).

We already have Android working perfectly with freeware only on the Android
device, so we saved iOS for last with respect to connecting to Linux
seamlessly via a variety of methods using only freeware on the iOS device
so that everyone can leverage the results.

[Steven Petruzzellis]

Show a case study of a profitable enterprise that has made its position by not giving a shit about its customers and services.

My view is that we should ALL report the flooding and then it will stop. I have a custom setup I use as well, but it's better than yours.

Too much glue for you, gluey. Already moved on from that. You are too slow!

I know we have two different beliefs completely.

This is what arises when deeply poor self confidence takes over benj's psyche. The Mack has more automation options. Vennie Bowden has proved this time and time again.

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[ultred ragnusen]

ultred ragnusen <ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:

> 3. USB should work - so that's a question why it's failing

All of a sudden, I don't know why, Ubuntu 17.10 is showing two mount points
for the iOS iPad. I think it's because I booted to Linux with the iPad
already plugged in (since that's the only thing I did differently).

This is the camera hierarchy of the iOS device mounted on Ubuntu 17.10:
http://i.cubeupload.com/7Ss8C4.jpg

This is the Documents hierarchy of the private space of the good apps:
http://i.cubeupload.com/TpA8nX.jpg

[ultred ragnusen]

Auric__ <not.m...@email.address> wrote:

>> Is samba the right start point to create SMB shares of the format on Linux?
>> \\DESKTOP\share
>
> Yes. It's meant for Windows interoperability, but it'll work with Apple
> devices as well.

You were correct, for the most part, that Samba works fine for Apple
devices, since they're just SMB shares anyway.

To install Samba server & smbclient and the not-deprecated smbmount
cifs-utils, here's what I did on Ubuntu 17.10 so that others can follow in
our footsteps.

1. Only in hindsight, do I know that these three are needed since I
installed them in the order given, but one by one, adding the next as
needed.
sudo apt-get install samba smbclient cifs-utils

2. Only in use do you realize Samba maintains its own password file.

sudo smbpasswd -a x # Create a Samba user outside of Linux passwords

New SMB password:
Retype new SMB password:
Added user x.

3. Create a share on Linux:

mkdir /home/x/share # Don't use sudo as it should be owned by the user

4. Create a smb.conf file on Linux:

sudo cp /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.orig # Back it up 1st
sudo vi /etc/samba/smb.conf # Edit the Samba configuration file as needed

Add the following (but without the inline comments):

[share] # This names the folder share \\DESKTOP\share
path = /home/x/share # This provides the location of the shared folder
available = yes # Make it available to clients on the network
valid users = x # Make it available to user x on the network
read only = no # Allow clients to write to the share
browseable = yes # Allow clients to browse the share

public = yes # Who knows what this does

writable = yes # Allow clients to write to the share

4. Tell Samba to create the binary config file using that text file.

sudo /etc/init.d/smbd restart # Create binary config & activate the share

[ ok ] Restarting smbd (via systemctl): smbd.service.

5. Run a quick sanity check:

sudo testparm # Test if Samba is working

[share]
path = /home/x/share
guest ok = Yes
read only = No
valid users = x

6. Test that Linux samba client can see the iOS WiFi HD samba server:
smbclient -L 192.168.1.7
WARNING: The "syslog" option is deprecated
Enter WORKGROUP\x's password:
OS=[RedHat Linux] Server=[NQ 7.2]
Sharename Type Comment
--------- ---- -------
IPC$ IPC IPC Service
Documents Disk
OS=[RedHat Linux] Server=[NQ 7.2]
Server Comment
--------- -------
Workgroup Master
--------- -------

7. Copy a Linux test file from Linux to iOS over WiFi on the command line.
ls > fname.txt # Create a dummy test file
smbclient \\\\192.168.1.7\\Documents <passwd>
> help
> put fname.txt
> dir
. DA 0 Thu Mar 15 12:22:14 2018
.. DA 0 Wed Dec 31 16:00:00 1969
fname.txt.txt A 7388 Thu Mar 15 12:22:14 2018
> quit

8. The last step failed, which is to mount the iOS samba share on Linux.
mkdir ~/mount
sudo mount //192.168.1.7/share ~/mount -o username=x,password=x
mount error(95): Operation not supported
Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)


sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.7/ ~/mount/ -o rw
sudo mount -t cifs -o username=x,password=x //192.168.1.7/Documents ~/mount
sudo umount ~/mount

HELP NEEDED:
I'm not all that good with the "mount" command.
If you know how to mount a Samba share on Linux, please advise.
- Assume the login & password are x and x respectively.
- Assume the share is smb://192.168.1.7/Documents

Thanks!

[ultred ragnusen]

ultred ragnusen <ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:

> Add the following:
> [share] # This names the folder share \\DESKTOP\share
> path = /home/x/share # This provides the location of the shared folder
> available = yes # Make it available to clients on the network
> valid users = x # Make it available to user x on the network
> read only = no # Allow clients to write to the share
> browseable = yes # Allow clients to browse the share
> public = yes #
> writable = yes # Allow clients to write to the share
>
> sudo /etc/init.d/smbd restart # Create binary config & activate the share
> sudo testparm # Test if Samba is working

OK. I tested SMB with Linux and the iOS iPad and it "mostly" worked fine.
http://i.cubeupload.com/eWxdCE.jpg

I was certainly able to transfer files after setting up an SMB server on
the iOS device using the freeware WiFi HD which provieded the SMB share on
the iPad of smb://192.168.1.7/Documents
http://i.cubeupload.com/CiV2ox.jpg

I transferred those two text files from Linux using the smbclient command:

smbclient \\\\192.168.1.7\\Documents <passwd>
> help
> put fname.txt
> dir
. DA 0 Thu Mar 15 12:22:14 2018
.. DA 0 Wed Dec 31 16:00:00 1969
fname.txt.txt A 7388 Thu Mar 15 12:22:14 2018
> quit

I wasn't able to figure out how to mount the SMB share though, as the
smbmount command has long been deprecated in favor of the mount -t cifs
command on Ubuntu - but it never worked.

mkdir ~/mount
sudo mount //192.168.1.7/share ~/mount -o username=x,password=x
mount error(95): Operation not supported
Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)


sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.7/ ~/mount/ -o rw
sudo mount -t cifs -o username=x,password=x //192.168.1.7/Documents ~/mount
sudo umount ~/mount

So one question is, given the known SMB share of:
smb://192.167.1.7/Documents
Does anyone know how to mount that SMB share on Linux?

[Steven Petruzzellis]

Carroll, 4/10/2015 4:04 PM:
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Cute trick... To the guy who hacked my Google account.
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No details. Seems to treat it as a joke.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 5:02 PM, <https://goo.gl/51rsmZ>:
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Email Hacking Is A Serious Crime
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No longer "cute"... now it is a serious crime. OK.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 5:07 PM:
By now he is posting more links to how serious this crime against him is.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 7:25 PM:
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I didn't write that.
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Now he is denying the posts from his own account. OK, he was "hacked". Someone else posted this. Hard to hack a gmail account given how they use two-step authentication and someone would need access to his phone or the like... but at least POSSIBLE.

Even then, though, if someone tries to guess your password Google alerts you and lets you know what IP address and other info. I know because someone in a Denver internet cafe has tried mine on several occasions.

Google even forces you to change your password when this happens. Very hard to hack these days.

So already Carroll's story is unlikely.

But let us accept it... someone somehow hacked his account bypassing the two step verification. This person did not, however, change his password and Carroll posted within an hour of the "hacker". Before that, unless he is an idiot, he changed his password and the "hacker" was locked out. The "hacker" got one post in.

But Carroll could not leave his story there.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:36 PM, <https://goo.gl/NJ2bMH>:
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Someone hacked my fretwizzer gmail acct so, for the time being,
don't trust anything from it.
-----
Wait. What? Even after Carroll figured out this "hacker" who was too stupid to change his password had broken into his account and Carroll *surely* must have changed his own password, he is saying the "hacker" might still have access. Might be able to break Google's two-step verification process *again*.

This is *very* unlikely... to the point of being unbelievable.

Even worse for him: he notes which of his accounts he is claiming was hacked - but in the past he has denied even using the other accounts! LOL! He screwed up and made it very clear he has multiple accounts and felt the need to note which one. He made the same mistake in the next quote where he speaks of WHICH of his gmail accounts he is claiming was hacked. Oops! If he only posts with one there would be no need to specify which one!

He has completely screwed up in his game to pretend he posts with only one gmail account. Completely idiotic of him, too!

Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:38 PM, <https://goo.gl/YA7gMO>:
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Some mentally deficient child hacked my 'fretwizzer' gmail account
so I may have to kill it. For the time being, don't assume
anything that's coming from it was written by me.
-----
He is still saying that he may have to kill the account instead of just changing the password which anyone with half a brain would have already done (and Google *forces* you to do when someone even tries to hack your account... I know because someone in the Denver area has tried to hack mine multiple times... likely Carroll but I have no proof of this). And he specifies WHICH of his accounts! He is directly admitting he uses more than one account! His claim of being "forged" with his second account is a lie. Proved.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:40 PM, <https://goo.gl/j6yCuV>:
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Looks like it's still being hacked despite me taking precautions,
I may have to kill the account.
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What makes it look like its still being hacked? And what precautions other than changing the two-step verification options does he need? And how would someone bypass this... is he really on the NSA watch list? Seems you would need someone at that level to be doing this. He watches too much TV where they computer hackers spend thirty seconds and bypass all security.

Just nonsense.

Carroll, 4/11/2015 12:05 PM:
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Apparently Google is having issues with their accounts to the
point where they're ready to undertake some additional measures.
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But, of course, no evidence of this... and what measures? They already alert users if someone else tries to guess your password and use two-step authentication and even force you to make a new password if it seems someone is trying to hack you.
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They're now involving several federal agencies in things they
didn't bother with previously in an effort to deal with people who
hack into accounts. They've asked me to leave the account open.
-----
So now Google is letting Carroll know how they are handling these things - and asking him to leave a *hacked* account open... one someone can be using to steal his identity. No. This does not pass the sniff test in any way. Even if they were doing this for some bizarre sting operation, which is in itself far fetched, they would have told Carroll to not make it public information so the hacker would not know.

Just insanity. His own story is so idiotic and full of idiotic claims it simply cannot be true. Carroll uses his secondary Google account - the one he accesses via Tor and is referred to as his Tor account - to have plausible deniability for things he says there. Now he is working to do the same thing with his main account. Maybe Carroll read a report like this: <http://cnnmon.ie/111QeT8> [money.com]. If so he missed the part where they note if you are *really* hacked, which is rare, the hackers change your password and lock you out. Why would they not?
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There's some new legislation that will help them deal with this
issue... which probably means more BS for us ;)
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Yes, new legislation to make sure Carroll does not have to deal with "hackers" and "forgers" which do not even exist.

The funny part is, this happened shortly after someone in the Denver area, likely Carroll, tried to guess *my* passwords and they did it from an Internet café (Google tells you the IP and that can be used to trace back).

My guess: Carroll is the one who was working to guess my password and figured this new lie of his was a good way to deny his own words even more than he does with his Tor account *and* a way to make it so if I had talked about him trying to hack my account he could say I was just copying his comments. "Proving" I read his posts... which for now I am to see how absurd his lies are. :)

Carroll, 4/11/2015 12:25 PM:
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The person who hacked into my Gmail acct. changed the wording on
this post. I've removed the others but Google asked me to leave
one standing for some odd reason.
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Here Carroll claims the hacker changed the wording on a post of his from *before* he had even claimed he was hacked. So this hacker not only can *post* for him but edit his old Usenet posts.

I call utter bullshit on this. Out and out lie from Carroll. And then Carroll says Google asked him to not delete these "hacked" posts... this is nonsense. Why would Google want him to leave forged posts in the public and why would Google not just keep their own copy? Even Carroll notes it is for "some odd reason" - yeah, because Carroll is telling stories that make *no* sense at all.

Carroll is lying. Maybe there is some kernel of truth to his stories? Even if so - and frankly it is unlikely he will ever show any evidence to back his claims - the details he is posting are absurd.

Carroll, 4/11/2015 2:10 PM:
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And he's so high he thinks people still have to manually enter all
their passwords in whenever they want to use anything that's been
password protected ;)
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Nobody had suggested, hinted, implied, or said anything like what Carroll says they did.

Maybe his story will be someone stole his laptop (or mobile device) and he had his passwords saved? If so why not have the device deactivated remotely? Why has he not said anything about this?

My guess: he realizes he screwed up when trying to guess my passwords and is now building a story so he can say his computer was stolen and it was not him. Or, LOL, maybe someone broke into his house and did it.

This unknown hacker knew he was obsessed with me and carried on acting like him. Makes complete sense, eh?

Carroll, 4/12/2015 8:45 AM, <https://goo.gl/KMf4pa>:
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The first one, that has since been deleted. My bad for having such
a feeble password on this account.
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Now he suggests it was merely from someone guessing his password - which contradicts his above insinuations that it could have been from a saved password on a device he had.

His story changes with the telling.

But as noted, when someone tries to guess your password Google has ways to deal with it. I know - Carroll or someone in his neck of the woods recently tried it with me.

Carroll, 4/12/2015 9:29 AM:
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The account in question here is a gmail account. Contrary to
Snit's delusions, I have no idea what a TOR account looks like but
it's a good bet it doesn't bear much of a resemblance to a gmail
account.
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Here Carroll plays stupid and pretends that if when he or anyone uses the Tor browser *Carroll* pointed to this somehow changes the way the gmail interface looks. Um, no. Worse it might do is make Google think you are in another country and you would have to set it back to English. But the basic look stays the same.

He is playing stupid and pretending to not know how the Tor browser he pointed to works. Just idiotic of him.
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That idiocy aside, I love how Snit has repeatedly, for years,
feigned ignorance about gmail accounts, yet, he keeps disclosing
info that proves he knows about them. Some fools do stuff like
this when they believe people are as stupid as the fool needs them
to be ;)
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I do not think Google would allow you to edit your Usenet / groups posts but I do not use it much and do not know for sure. Seems absurd that they would... and others have now said they do not. But given how I do not use Google Groups for posting why would I know the details of their system for certain?

Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:47 PM:
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Your obsession with me is insane. Working with Google I now have
proof you and ebot worked together to hack me. Clever. If I press
charges against you I have to also include her so you remain safe
for now.

Do not think this is over.
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No evidence of working with Google on this (and all out and out lies). Carroll is making public threats based on lies.

Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:50 PM:
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I promised COLA your trolling days were over so you contacted ebot
and worked with her to hack my account. I might not be able to get
your ass handed to you in court over this but wait until your boss
at Yavapai College contacts you.

Maybe you should make that call first. Ask about your comments on
incest.

See if those can not be quoted.
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Direct lies and threats by Carroll.

Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:51 PM:
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You went too far this time Snit. We have trolled each other for
years but to contact ebot and get her to help you hack my account
was over a line.
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A complete and utter lie from Carroll.

Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:52 PM:
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The above post is Snit hacking my account.
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A complete and utter lie... more false accusations from him.

Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:53 PM:
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You edited those posts when you hacked my account. Do not trust
anything from my fretwizzer account now that Snit and ebot have
access to it.
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More unsupported claims and attacks by Carroll.

Carroll, 4/16/2015 8:56 PM:
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Working with Google I now have proof Snit and ebot hacked the
account. Many of the older posts were edited. You can see evidence
of this by Snit pointing to "old" posts which have been modified to
say I claimed I was his "personal newsgroup rapist", a phrase I
have never used.
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No evidence of Carroll working with Google. No evidence of any older posts being edited.

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[Steven Petruzzellis]

On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 1:39:13 PM UTC-7, ultred ragnusen wrote:

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[Uultred ragnusen]

ultred ragnusen <ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:

> All of a sudden, I don't know why, Ubuntu 17.10 is showing two mount points
> for the iOS iPad. I think it's because I booted to Linux with the iPad
> already plugged in (since that's the only thing I did differently).

Now Ubuntu is back to a single mount point.
The iOS to Ubuntu USB network connectivity sure if flaky.

Moving on to smb, I can easily start a freeware SMB server on the iOS
device, using WiFi HD freeware on iOS, which gives me a URI of]
smb://192.168.1.7

With that share, I can easily use the smblient software on Ubuntu to "put"
files over as I did below from the smbclient shell (which is much like an
FTP shell).
http://i.cubeupload.com/TaDDnM.jpg

On Windows, I used the "net use" command to "mount" that share on Windows:
net use X: \\192.168.1.7\Documents
http://i.cubeupload.com/7irVKa.jpg

My main unanswered query is how to "mount" that same smb share on Linux?

[Steven Petruzzellis]

Oh goodness, that is just tons of bunk.

The one skill Autumn Nissen (https://www.facebook.com/anissen7) learned well is to work to humiliate Adam LeMond into false confession and if that doesn't work, shout him down or quickly change the target. That lame duck update system failed over and over again. What is your evidence?

How is barely used random neuron firings tied to flatlining brain waves in any way going to lead to valuable usenet writing?

Do not get too confident, Autumn Nissen (https://www.facebook.com/anissen7), sometimes "your socks" are just that.

It is easy as pie to handpick by focusing on hardly any outliers unrepresentative from what's common. What a better tactic from an honest advocates outlook are the average usages.

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[Uultred ragnusen]

Uultred ragnusen <ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:

> Moving on to smb, I can easily start a freeware SMB server on the iOS
> device, using WiFi HD freeware on iOS, which gives me a URI of]
> smb://192.168.1.7

I was able to put a dozen feature-length films into VLC, without the iTunes
abomination, but this copying from the desktop to iOS using SMB over WiFi
is for the birds because file transfer using SMB over WiFi takes quite a
long time (hours).

I wish USB file transfer without the iTunes abomination was two way
(minutes), where I know it used to be two-way on Ubuntu 14.10 to the iPad
on iOS 7.0.0 in the past, so, I would like to ask if other Linux users have
two-way USB file transfer from Linux to the iPad using the current versions
of both Ubuntu (17.10) and iOS (11.6.2).

Do you have two-way USB file transfer between Linux and your iOS device?
If so...
What's the secret for two-way file transfer over USB sans the iTunes
abomination?

[Uultred ragnusen]

ultred ragnusen <ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:

> So far this is the status of the four methods:
> 1. FTP works best on Ubuntu Nautilus
> 2. HTTP is ok - but requires wget or a web browser
> 3. SMB might work - but I haven't gotten it to work yet
> 3. USB should work - so that's a question why it's failing

Here is a summary of the excellent progress to date, with a couple of open
questions at the end with respect to the original question of sliding large
files back and forth between iOS and Linux without needing to install
anything on Linux and using only a single freeware app on iOS.

I found a few other methods, e.g., something called PLEX, where, overall,
I've tested the following USB & WiFi methods of moving large files back and
forth between the latest Linux (Ubuntu 17.10) & the latest iOS (11.2.6).

This is a summary of the status of each method on Linux:
1. USB (unknown why it only works one way on Linux, from iOS to desktop)
2. iOS FTP server (works both ways in Nautilus between iOS & Linux)
3. iOS HTTP server (works both ways in a we browser between iOS & Linux)
4. iOS Bluetooth (should work on Linux but I don't have a BT or WiFi card)
5. iOS SMB server (works both ways once smbclient is installed on Linux)
6. iOS SMB client (works both ways once Samba is installed on Linux)
7. iOS VLC app (works both ways - perhaps it's just HTTP or WebDAV?)
8. Desktop command-line app (e.g., curl, wget, etc.)

I haven't tried 'wget' or 'curl', but they should work on the HTTP servers.

The VLC app may or may not be in its own category as it might just be a
normal HTTP server, or, maybe it uses WebDAV? I don't know, but it also
works so I listed it as a 7th method for sliding large files both ways
between Linux and iOS that works without any additional software on the
desktop:
http://i.cubeupload.com/KeEgLb.jpg

Open questions on Linux:
Q: What's the trick to getting USB transfer to be both ways with Linux?
Q: What's the trick to "mounting" the iOS SMB share on Linux?

[William Unruh]

On 2018-03-17, Uultred ragnusen <ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:
> ultred ragnusen <ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:
>
>> So far this is the status of the four methods:
>> 1. FTP works best on Ubuntu Nautilus
>> 2. HTTP is ok - but requires wget or a web browser
>> 3. SMB might work - but I haven't gotten it to work yet
>> 3. USB should work - so that's a question why it's failing
>
> Here is a summary of the excellent progress to date, with a couple of open
> questions at the end with respect to the original question of sliding large
> files back and forth between iOS and Linux without needing to install
> anything on Linux and using only a single freeware app on iOS.
>
> I found a few other methods, e.g., something called PLEX, where, overall,
> I've tested the following USB & WiFi methods of moving large files back and
> forth between the latest Linux (Ubuntu 17.10) & the latest iOS (11.2.6).
>
> This is a summary of the status of each method on Linux:
> 1. USB (unknown why it only works one way on Linux, from iOS to desktop)

I do not know iOS but maybe it does not have the equivalent server software. I
presume here you mean actually stringing a usb connection between the two
machines, Not copying it to a usb3 stick and carrying it over (probably the
fastest of all :-)

> 2. iOS FTP server (works both ways in Nautilus between iOS & Linux)

You can presumably use any ftp software (I like the command line ncftp but
there are lots) at least on Linux. This does require installing the ftp server
and client software on both systems.

> 3. iOS HTTP server (works both ways in a we browser between iOS & Linux)

It certainly should also work with say apache http server on Linux.

> 4. iOS Bluetooth (should work on Linux but I don't have a BT or WiFi card)
> 5. iOS SMB server (works both ways once smbclient is installed on Linux)

As stated all of the methods require software to be installed. Whether or not
your particular distro and distro subtype (eg server or desktop machine)
happens to install it by default is purely a matter of luck.

> 6. iOS SMB client (works both ways once Samba is installed on Linux)
> 7. iOS VLC app (works both ways - perhaps it's just HTTP or WebDAV?)
> 8. Desktop command-line app (e.g., curl, wget, etc.)
>
> I haven't tried 'wget' or 'curl', but they should work on the HTTP servers.
>
> The VLC app may or may not be in its own category as it might just be a
> normal HTTP server, or, maybe it uses WebDAV? I don't know, but it also
> works so I listed it as a 7th method for sliding large files both ways
> between Linux and iOS that works without any additional software on the
> desktop:
> http://i.cubeupload.com/KeEgLb.jpg
>
> Open questions on Linux:
> Q: What's the trick to getting USB transfer to be both ways with Linux?

You will need something on Linux which watches the usb port for stuff, and do
something with it. USB is a byte transfer protocol. It just delivers bytes
from one end of the line to the other. What the system does with those bytes
is entirely up to the system.

> Q: What's the trick to "mounting" the iOS SMB share on Linux?

What do the logs say on Linux when you try? journalctl,
/var/log/{messages,syslog,daemon,...)

[Uultred ragnusen]

William Unruh <un...@invalid.ca> wrote:

>> 1. USB (unknown why it only works one way on Linux, from iOS to desktop)
>
> I do not know iOS but maybe it does not have the equivalent server software.

I can only say that when I had iOS 7.0.0 and Ubuntu 14.10, the USB worked
both ways between iOS & Linux, which is what you'd expect.

Googling, this is very old, but do you think it might be something in this
"libmobiledevice" driver on Linux???
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/ios7-ipad-iphone-ubuntu-trust

> presume here you mean actually stringing a usb connection between the two
> machines, Not copying it to a usb3 stick and carrying it over (probably the
> fastest of all :-)

Yes. I mean stringing a USB cable from the iOS device to Linux.

>> 2. iOS FTP server (works both ways in Nautilus between iOS & Linux)
>
> You can presumably use any ftp software (I like the command line ncftp but
> there are lots) at least on Linux. This does require installing the ftp server
> and client software on both systems.

The command line is a good idea to "put" the files over the WiFi from Linux
to the iOS device. I wonder /where/ the files end up on iOS? I'll have to
start an FTP server on iOS (there are plenty) and then put a file into it
to see where it ends up on iOS and report back.

>> 3. iOS HTTP server (works both ways in a we browser between iOS & Linux)
>
> It certainly should also work with say apache http server on Linux.

I guess you're right that instead of putting the common HTTP servers on
iOS, I could just start up an Apache server on Linux and then access it
from the iOS device over the local WiFi network using any web browser (or
even curl & wget commands, if they exist on iOS).

>> 4. iOS Bluetooth (should work on Linux but I don't have a BT or WiFi card)
>> 5. iOS SMB server (works both ways once smbclient is installed on Linux)
>
> As stated all of the methods require software to be installed. Whether or not
> your particular distro and distro subtype (eg server or desktop machine)
> happens to install it by default is purely a matter of luck.

This is not a true statement in that the goal is to try to install
/nothing/ on the desktop, which works fine for HTTP (since browsers are on
the desktop by default) and for FTP (since the ftp client is on the desktop
by default).

It's true though for SMB, since Samba isn't on the desktop by default, so I
already installed Samba. The main goal of stating no proprietary software
on the desktop is to forestall anyone suggesting Wine + iTunes which is
just an abomination on top of an abomination.

It's ok if, for example, Apache HTTP server has to be installed on the
desktop, or the smbclient SMB client software since they're not proprietary
abominations.

>> Open questions on Linux:
>> Q: What's the trick to getting USB transfer to be both ways with Linux?
>
> You will need something on Linux which watches the usb port for stuff, and do
> something with it.

It used to work with Ubuntu 14.10 and iOS 7.0.0 so something is the trick
to get two-way traffic over the USB cable. But what?

On Ubuntu 17.10, I wonder if I need to "update" the libimobiledevice
driver?

> USB is a byte transfer protocol. It just delivers bytes
> from one end of the line to the other. What the system does with those bytes
> is entirely up to the system.

I know USB used to be both ways becuase I did it a lot. I am hoping to find
someone here who has a newish iOS device and a newish Linux for them to
confirm if it works both ways for them.

>
>> Q: What's the trick to "mounting" the iOS SMB share on Linux?
>
> What do the logs say on Linux when you try? journalctl,
> /var/log/{messages,syslog,daemon,...)

The problem at the moment is that I don't have the syntax right for
mounting SMB shares. I'm working on that syntax and will report back when
successful. I don't think it's anything other than I don't know what I'm
doing since everyone would want to mount an SMB share for the obvious
reasons that all Windows PCs use SMB shares by default.

[William Unruh]

On 2018-03-17, Uultred ragnusen <ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:

> William Unruh <un...@invalid.ca> wrote:
>>
>> As stated all of the methods require software to be installed. Whether or not
>> your particular distro and distro subtype (eg server or desktop machine)
>> happens to install it by default is purely a matter of luck.
>
> This is not a true statement in that the goal is to try to install
> /nothing/ on the desktop, which works fine for HTTP (since browsers are on
> the desktop by default) and for FTP (since the ftp client is on the desktop
> by default).

But it is installed. It is not /nothing/. Ie, the distributions designers
decided to put that onto the desktop. Whether they decide to or not is just
luck as far as you are concerned. And istalling is trivial on Linux at least.
They are in the installation medium.

>
> It's true though for SMB, since Samba isn't on the desktop by default, so I
> already installed Samba. The main goal of stating no proprietary software
> on the desktop is to forestall anyone suggesting Wine + iTunes which is
> just an abomination on top of an abomination.

Proprietary? Nothing on the linux end is proprietary. IOs I cannot say.

As I said the logs are your friend. and run mount with verbose option.
Or try smb-mount Or /sbin/mount.smb*

[Steven Petruzzellis]

You refuse to take responsibility for your own comments. Quotes that are easily quoted and pointed out.

I'm getting more posts hidden then show. I'm guessing the small-minded Mac cultist is in its brain damage mode again. Drives the trolls crazy when they do not get attention.

But Keith 'Super Troll' Thompson feels the need to please the herd. So be it.

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[Uultred ragnusen]

William Unruh <un...@invalid.ca> wrote:

> But it is installed. It is not /nothing/. Ie, the distributions designers
> decided to put that onto the desktop. Whether they decide to or not is just
> luck as far as you are concerned. And istalling is trivial on Linux at least.
> They are in the installation medium.

I appreciate your help and advice where I have achieved success, in part,
since we last conversed earlier today.
http://i.cubeupload.com/9NqTaE.jpg

All your objections on my conditions of additional software are both fair &
correct that "something" (usually a client or, less often a server, and in
this case, a driver and debugger) needs to be "on" the desktop in order to
establish two-way file transfer to the iOS (or Android or Windows for that
matter) device.

Again - my reasons for mentioning the desire for not installing proprietary
software on the desktop was mainly to forestall useless suggestions of
horrid solutions which often entail Wine + iTunes.

To that end, I've already installed & configured the Samba server &
smbclient on Linux, and just now successfully updated the iOS drivers &
debugging tools for Linux, namely the libimobiledevice & ifuse &
idevicepair packages from
http://www.libimobiledevice.org/

>> It's true though for SMB, since Samba isn't on the desktop by default, so I
>> already installed Samba. The main goal of stating no proprietary software
>> on the desktop is to forestall anyone suggesting Wine + iTunes which is
>> just an abomination on top of an abomination.
>
> Proprietary? Nothing on the linux end is proprietary. IOs I cannot say.

Again, your objections to my words are fair and correct, where what is
needed on the desktop is the "typical" software one would use to interface
by both USB & WiFi (and Bluetooth, if I had a BT card) between the iOS
device and the Linux desktop.

To that end, these commands were successfully run today:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/835402/libimobiledevice-problem

For the http://tinyurl.com/alt-os-linux tribal-knowledge archives, so that
others might benefit, this sequence of commands successfully updated the
default libimobiledevice & ifuse drivers & added the idevicepair debugger
to my otherwise stock Ubuntu 17.10 setup:

$ sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
$ sudo apt install libimobiledevice-utils
$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:martin-salbaba/ppa+libimobiledevice
& sudo apt install libimobiledevice-utils
libimobiledevice-utils is already the newest version (1.2.0+dfsg-3.1ubuntu3).
$ sudo apt install libimobiledevice-utils ifuse
ifuse is already the newest version (1.1.2-0.1build3).
libimobiledevice-utils is already the newest version (1.2.0+dfsg-3.1ubuntu3).

Once I ran those commands above, I was able to slide huge movie files back
and forth over USB between the Linux desktop and the private space inside
the free VLC movie player app on the iOS device.

> As I said the logs are your friend. and run mount with verbose option.
> Or try smb-mount Or /sbin/mount.smb*

Thanks for that additional advice. My initial goal was solved with the
update of libimobiledevice drivers plus the addition of ifuse and
idevicepair software.

I think that the ifuse will help a lot with "mounting" but since I'm a noob
with respect to mounting, I will do some more research first.

What's interesting though, with respect to "pairing" (whatever that means)
over USB, this newly installed "idevicepair" command revealed some very
useful information about the iOS device:

With the iOS device plugged into the desktop USB port, I ran:
ideviceinfo -d
No device found, is it plugged in?

Hmmmmmm.... I removed the connection and plugged it into a /different/ USB
port and then I heard the familiar tone of "pairing" & the "trust this
device?" query on the iPad, where I ran the command again with different
results. (Only on computers is it not insanity to do the same thing twice
and expect different outcomes.)

ultred@ragnusen: !!
ideviceinfo -d

ActivationState: Activated
BasebandStatus: NoTelephonyCapabilty
BluetoothAddress: redacted for privacy
BoardId: 16
BrickState: false
BuildVersion: 15D100
CPUArchitecture: arm64
ChipID: 32771
DeviceClass: iPad
DeviceColor: 1
DeviceName: ipad
DieID: 7966597541748902
EthernetAddress: redacted for privacy
FirmwareVersion: iBoot-4076.30.43
HardwareModel: J71tAP
HardwarePlatform: s8003
HasSiDP: true
HostAttached: true
MLBSerialNumber: redacted for privacy
ModelNumber: MP2H2
NonVolatileRAM:
auto-boot: dHJ1ZQ==
backlight-level: MTUxOA==
boot-args:
com.apple.System.tz0-size: MHhDMDAwMDA=
PartitionType: GUID_partition_scheme
PasswordProtected: false
ProductName: iPhone OS
ProductType: iPad6,11
ProductVersion: 11.2.6
ProductionSOC: true
ProtocolVersion: 2
RegionInfo: LL/A
SIMStatus: kCTSIMSupportSIMStatusReady
SerialNumber: redacted for privacy
SoftwareBehavior: EQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA==
SoftwareBundleVersion:
SupportedDeviceFamilies[2]:
0: 1
1: 2
TelephonyCapability: false
TimeIntervalSince1970: 1521349204.247464
TimeZone: redacted for privacy
TimeZoneOffsetFromUTC: -25200.000000
TrustedHostAttached: true
UniqueChipID: redacted for privacy
UniqueDeviceID: redacted for privacy
UseRaptorCerts: true
Uses24HourClock: false
WiFiAddress: redacted for privacy
WirelessBoardSerialNumber: redacted for privacy
ultred@ragnusen:

In summary, with the update and addition of libimobiledevice.org packages,
I was able to debug the established connection over USB cable between the
Linux and iOS device using the ideviceinfo command:
http://i.cubeupload.com/9NqTaE.jpg

When I connect the iOS device to Linux, two mount points show up:
http://i.cubeupload.com/Gj4h6i.jpg

The mount point most useful is to the private space of the apps:
http://i.cubeupload.com/Afhk2u.jpg

That allowed me to move files back and forth into & out of VLC:
http://i.cubeupload.com/BOLdzU.jpg

So my main goal of transferring large files two ways between iOS and Linux
has been accomplished, but I still need to hone the process with the help
of the experts here.

Namely, I need to learn how to "mount" the SMB shares (which I didn't
tackle today but which I will tackle anew. I haven't tried the new "ifuse"
app which was installed today, so I'll start with that package first.

[Steven Petruzzellis]

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[Uultred ragnusen]

Uultred ragnusen <ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:

> Namely, I need to learn how to "mount" the SMB shares (which I didn't
> tackle today but which I will tackle anew. I haven't tried the new "ifuse"
> app which was installed today, so I'll start with that package first.

Woo hoo!
I was able to mount a /third/ iOS mount point over USB just now on Linux!
http://i.cubeupload.com/M07zxD.jpg

I found the commands & syntax in these two references:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/928750/how-do-i-access-ios-camera-pictures-on-ubuntu-17-04/938890
https://my30daysoflinux.blogspot.com/2017/07/make-iphone-7-ios-1033-work-on-ubuntu.html

This is all the syntax I needed to mount that third iOS USB mount point:
$ mkdir ipad
$ ifuse ipad

That adds a third mount point on Linux containing the iOS folders:
- Books/{Purchases,Sync}/
- DCIM/100APPLE/{IMG_0001.PNG, IMG_0002.PNG, etc.}
- Downloads/{sqlite files}
- iMazing/
- iTunes_Control/{Device,iTunes}/{lots of files}
- MediaAnalysis/{mediaanalysis db files}
- PhotoData/{lots of photo related files such as thumbnails & metadata}
- Photos/
- PublicStaging/

Here is a log file of the commands used:
0. This updated to the latest patched iOS device drivers for Ubuntu 17.10:
ultred@ragnusen: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
ultred@ragnusen: sudo apt install libimobiledevice-utils ifuse

1. This tested whether USB cable connectivity was established:
ultred@ragnusen: idevicepair validate
ERROR: Device {redacted for privacy} returned unhandled error code -3

2. This put a "trust this computer" message on the iPad:
ultred@ragnusen: idevicepair pair
ERROR: Please accept the trust dialog on the screen of device {redacted for
privacy}, then attempt to pair again.

3. This then paired the iPad with Linux over USB cable:
ultred@ragnusen: !!
idevicepair pair
SUCCESS: Paired with device {redacted for privacy}

4. This mounted the iPad to a directory on Linux:
ultred@ragnusen: mkdir $HOME/data/ipad
ultred@ragnusen: ifuse !$

5. This unmounted the directory:
ultred@ragnusen: fusermount -u !$

This is written up in detail so that the tribal archives can be followed by
someone in the future with the same goal of mounting an iPad to Linux.
http://tinyurl.com/alt-os-linux

[Steven Petruzzellis]

My uptime is almost thirty days and Daniel Lewis is a better man than you will even be! You are bright as a steamed zucchini. One guy reported him years ago. As expected, it did squat to stop the boob.

I have known grade school kids who argue better than Adam 'The Flooder' LeMond does.

He'd have to have mental illness to be unsure of if he "rarely had" developed a program. Ring any bells? When Adam 'The Flooder' LeMond can not keep his lies straight and utilizes fictional, self-image saving bull later, it's rather apparent what his tactic is.

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[Steven Petruzzellis]

Do you have a MCSE certification?

But The Flying Spaghetti Monster feels the need to attack the herd.

Any inconsolable moronic druggie could easily do the same. Fool! It's like a poorly written flyer. The Flying Spaghetti Monster has already decided what he is going to say before he calls. What you say is beside the point. What Daniel Lewis says is beside the point.

And in reply you have nothing but an attempt to start something.

What were you betting on?



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[Steven Petruzzellis]

On Sunday, March 18, 2018 at 3:46:38 AM UTC-7, Uultred ragnusen wrote:

Adam LeMond has toned down the nonstop self-serving, bullshit posts he used to write but he is surely not much different in the honesty department. He just uses shills more now to spawn those threads. Already moved on from that. Take it as you want! Adam LeMond is the result of the reality that collectives have been hired to take over responsibility for teaching kids. It is not serendipity that he is a senseless Russian sympathizer. Unlike the intelligent people in COLA, Adam LeMond relies on CNN to contrive stances on the news. Consequently, he only knows and agrees to the official news which also happens to be the ones which describe communists in a acutely positive and educated way. Gee, imagine Adam LeMond trying to pin his nonsense on The Underground Marshmallow Person and me, no one has ever seen that before. You _do_ realize that the massive floods ending up in multiple groups started out when Adam LeMond was quoted lying.



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[Uultred ragnusen]

Uultred ragnusen <ult...@ragnusen.com> wrote:

> Woo hoo!
> I was able to mount a /third/ iOS mount point over USB just now on Linux!
> http://i.cubeupload.com/M07zxD.jpg

More success to add to the alt.os.linux searchable tribal-knowledge record!

Since William Unruh had suggested a "debugger", I searched and found the
"idevicesyslog" command, which gives you so much debugging information
directly off the iOS device while performing file-transfer tasks over USB
that it isn't funny.
https://cubeupload.com/im/jSSQur.jpg

I found that command syntax over here while searching for a debugger:
https://github.com/libimobiledevice/ifuse/issues/9

That syslog output seems to be the actual ad-hoc system log of the iDevice!

In addition, I ran some two-way tests, which show that this third mount
point to new places on the iOS device is two way, at least in the Camera
DCIM directory, where I put a screenshot from Ubuntu:
https://cubeupload.com/im/sn7VVE.jpg

In the second mount point, that of the private space of the well-behaved
apps, I found that the actual path on the iOS device to the VLC private
space is something that looks like this:
file:///var/mobile/Containers/Data/Application/(hex)/Documents/file.mkv
Where the long hex number is in the form of the 8-4-4-4-12 hex characters:
HHHHHHHH-HHHH-HHHH-HHHH-HHHHHHHHHHHH
https://cubeupload.com/im/TkpHHR.jpg

Hence, even though I haven't been able to test out the syntax for mounting
the iOS SMB shares on Ubuntu over WiFi, I have a better (much faster)
solution which is to mount three iOS file systems over USB using ifuse.
https://cubeupload.com/im/J98DE4.jpg

In summary, pairing an iOS device over USB for two-way fast file transfer
on Linux is super easy once you know the trick, which is to update to the
latest "libimobiledevice" and "ifuse" drivers and, optionally, to run the
"ifuse" mounting, "idevicepair" pairing, and "idevicesyslog" debugging
commands.
https://cubeupload.com/im/MCzpKI.jpg

I think the only thing left to figure out the secret of for Linux
connectivity to iOS devices is SMB mounting of the iDevice over Wi-Fi.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p8m99v$1al5$5...@gioia.aioe.org>, Uultred ragnusen wrote:

> I think the only thing left to figure out the secret of for Linux
> connectivity to iOS devices is SMB mounting of the iDevice over Wi-Fi.

More success!

As an example of the /power/ of SMB, I just proved, for the Windows ng:
http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10

That we could seamlessly edit an iOS file from Windows over WiFi using the
SMB protocol, without the file ever being on Windows.

We should be able to do the same on Linux, which I'll try to figure out the
syntax for, but here, as an example, is what I just wrote in the Windows
ng.

Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> wrote:

> Someone could "port" what was done for Linux, to Windows,
> but... will they ? Will they charge money for it ?

Hi Paul,
Thanks for your help as seamless file transfer over WiFi and USB without
the restrictive iTunes abomination is something anyone with an iOS device
and Windows would want to do.

Based on your excellent advice and patient explanations, I've put trying to
get the three iOS mount points to work on Windows on the back burner.

Instead, I'm first going to document for the tribal-knowledge archives what
works best on Windows, where we already have both iOS HTTP & iOS FTP
servers working fine - so I'll document below how I enabled the freeware
iOS SMB server to play nice with Windows over WiFi.

1. On iOS, I started the freeware app "WiFi HD" and selected the
"Documents" tab in that freeware and turned it on, which gave
me a server address of smb://192.168.1.9 for that iOS device.
https://cubeupload.com/im/NXeNxF.jpg

2. On Windows 10 Pro, I added the following "network location":
Network Location = \\192.168.1.9\Documents
Windows-generated Name = Documents (192.168.1.9 (NQ CIFS Server))
https://cubeupload.com/im/WA2Y6W.jpg

2. On Windows 10 Pro, that iOS smb://192.168.1.9/Documents share
opened up automatically
https://cubeupload.com/im/mKpXx6.jpg
where I right clicked and created an empty text file on that
iOS SMB share where the file was named "jollyroger.txt".
https://cubeupload.com/im/jnKOmG.jpg
And then I doubleclicked on that iOS file from Windows to add content:
https://cubeupload.com/im/TXpVdE.jpg

3. Immediately, that file showed up in iOS when I refreshed WiFi HD:
https://cubeupload.com/im/CsJC3i.jpg

4. That's a clear test of seamlessness, but, as an optional additional
step, I decided to add to that text file from the Windows cmd line,
but Windows doesn't recognize SMB addresses at the command line.
c:\> cd \\192.168.1.9\Documents
'\\192.168.1.9\Documents'
CMD does not support UNC paths as current directories.

5. So I "mounted" the smb share as a removable drive on Windows:
c:\ net use S: \\192.168.1.9\Documents
The command completed successfully.

6. I then appended to that text file from the Windows 10 command line:
c:\> dir >> S:\jollyroger.txt
https://cubeupload.com/im/tyHgah.jpg

7. To prove all this action on Winodws was being done on the iOS device,
I opened the file in WiFi HD on the iOS device, which reveals both
actions worked seamlessly to edit iOS file from Windows.
https://cubeupload.com/im/qHAzwM.jpg

8. This file never left the iOS device, where the iOS device was being
edited from Windows the entire time and where the file can now be
moved on the iOS device to wherever we want to put it.
https://cubeupload.com/im/4eE3p9.jpg

In summary, this proves seamless integration of iOS with Windows over the
SMB protocol where it was easy to edit a file on the iOS device from the
Windows desktop over Wi-Fi.
https://cubeupload.com/im/KlFC1J.jpg

Notice the file never left the iOS device.
The iOS file was created and modified from the Windows desktop over WiFi.

[William Unruh]

On 2018-03-18, Ragnusen Ultred <ragn...@ultred.com> wrote:
> In article <news:p8m99v$1al5$5...@gioia.aioe.org>, Uultred ragnusen wrote:
>
>> I think the only thing left to figure out the secret of for Linux
>> connectivity to iOS devices is SMB mounting of the iDevice over Wi-Fi.
>
> More success!
>
> As an example of the /power/ of SMB, I just proved, for the Windows ng:
> http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10
>
> That we could seamlessly edit an iOS file from Windows over WiFi using the
> SMB protocol, without the file ever being on Windows.

Depends on what you mean by "the file". The contents of the file were
transfered to Windows. Otherwise it could not edit is.
>
...

[Ragnusen Ultred]

In article <news:p8mppc$ie5$1...@dont-email.me>, William Unruh wrote:

>> That we could seamlessly edit an iOS file from Windows over WiFi using the
>> SMB protocol, without the file ever being on Windows.
>
> Depends on what you mean by "the file". The contents of the file were
> transfered to Windows. Otherwise it could not edit is.
>>

You bring up a good point is that Windows edited "something" even as
nothing seems to have been "stored" on Windows (AFAIK), without a shred of
non-native software on Windows.

I "guess" (aka, I assume) that Windows created the file on iOS over WiFi,
and then Windows "copied" the file into Windows RAM, and then Windows saved
the file back onto iOS.

So, I guess that Windows only had the file in RAM - but that guess could be
wrong where I welcome clarification from the folks here.

Nonetheless, this is a Linux newsgroup so that example of editing a file on
iOS from Windows over SMB on WiFi was just to prove that it could be done,
where I'm going to try the same feat on Linux, where I'm not so sure of the
smb-related commands that I'll need.

In reality though, for practical purposes, the fact that I can "mount"
three different overlapping iOS file systems on Linux over USB cable using
the automagic features of libimobiledevice, and the manual mounting of
ifuse - all negates the /need/ to use a SMB mount on Linux.

That is, on Windows, the mounting of the iOS device is only one fifth of
what we can easily mount on Linux (once we knew how), so Windows /needs/
SMB more than does Linux.

Nonetheless, I'll try to figure out the syntax on Linux to enable editing
from Linux of an arbitrary iOS file over SMB on the WiFi LAN sans any Apple
software on Linux.

My hope is that what we learn here can be leveraged to many others in the
future who avail themselves of the alt.os.linux tribal knowledge archives
so any and all your help is not wasted on me but leveraged to all.

[Ragnusen Ultred]

Update.

Here's a summary update of the progress of connecting iOS & Ubuntu:
http://i.cubeupload.com/6PTcs1.jpg

USB:
Notice there is no jailbreaking involved and zero proprietary software
installed on the dekstop (i.e., no iTunes) for the USB connectivity
pictured above - although I did have to update Ubuntu 17.10's default ifuse
& libimobiledevice drivers to the latest build.

USB connectivity allows for 3 iOS file systems to be mounted:
1. One-way access to the iOS Camera DCIM folder
2. Two-way access to the well-written iOS apps' private space
3. Either one-way or two-way access to iOS folders
And USB connectivity allows for some of the root systems to be viewed:
4. The iOS root syslog can be tailed in real time

iOS SMB Server:
After installing the freeware iOS SMB server "WiFi HD", I was able to
connect to the SMB share \\iDevice\IPC$ but the WiFi HD software doesn't
provide for a password so I haven't yet figured out the syntax to make the
smbclient command work for the share that Windows easily connects to which
I know (from Windows) to be smb://iDevice/Documents.

This won't show the known share of "smb://192.168.1.9/Documents":
$ smbclient -L 192.168.1.9

It asks for a password (which I don't know since the WiFi HD doesn't say
anything about a password and Windows doesn't need it so I assume there is
none) and then all it shows is the workgroup of WORKGROUP and the single
global share of IPC$.

So the main syntactical question here of Linux users is how to get
smbclient to show the "smb://192.168.1.9/Documents" share, which I know to
be there because Windows has no problem seeing it under the same
conditions.
https://cubeupload.com/im/Kzm9qk.jpg

So if Windows can see the smb://192.168.1.9/Documents share, then my main
question is why can't Linux see the same share?

iOS SMB Client:
Running a free iOS SMB client (e.g., "File Explorer"), we can connect
easily to an SMB server on Windows or Linux so I won't delve into more
detail in this summary.

iOS FTP Server:
Running a free iOS FTP server (e.g., "MyFileExplorer"), we can connect
easily from Windows or Linux with an FTP client so I won't delve into more
detail in this summary.

IOS HTTP Server:
Running a free iOS HTTP server (e.g., "MyFileExplorer"), we can connect
easily from Windows or Linux with any web browser, curl, or wget, so I
won't delve into more detail in this summary.

Overall, once I updated the drivers, Ubuntu USB is working flawlessly (far
better than USB does on Windows), but SMB is failing miserably (far worse
than it did on Windows).

I've scoured the net for smbclient examples and instructions where none
show anything working with iOS devices that I can find useful.

So my main Linux unresolved question is how to get smbclient to connect to
the "smb://192.168.1.9/Documents" share that I /know/ exists because
Windows has no problem connecting to it.
https://cubeupload.com/im/fZlxui.jpg

[Steven Petruzzellis]

Another successful Linux test. That is if you count utter failure as a success. Autumn Nissen can create a virtual machine. Of course that is not possible on anything but Linux! There is no question at least some of the posts are hand generated because some of them are direct responses in very specific ways that underscore they are a response, not just crap. IOW, while some could be automated others are definitely not. You guys can only rationalize from the perspective of a sociopath. It was Peter the Klöwn who forged me and bragged about it.

Peter the Klöwn's toned down the endless narcissistic, bullshit attacks he used to create but he's clearly the same in the honor territory. He just uses psychological manipulation more now to make those threads. Turns out Peter the Klöwn's non-stop flooding comments of Autumn Nissen met the agreed on criteria of trolling, so he accused Autumn Nissen of making that up. Ha, ha!

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[Steven Petruzzellis]

Jolly Roger's computer has more cores than Autumn Nissen's. Jolly Roger wins. Autumn Nissen loses. Which gives Jolly Roger better productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction. Not long ago I did work on and showed some Perl for the front end (only works on Wayland) which is the only thing you can do when trying to avoid Autumn Nissen's kiddie crap while reading with Google Groups. It was Autumn Nissen who got caught using lots of nyms for years, and these are 'people' who come out of the blue immediately into threads where he was being proved wrong... by Jolly Roger for over a decade.

Nobody is being controlled by a corporation.

Advertising is a wonderful thing and consumer herd mentality is even better.

Autumn Nissen doesn't know if there is a encumbered open source solution. Everyone is Autumn Nissen -- the oldest gag in the book.

I think Autumn Nissen does not even know what is wrong with Trump.

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[Steven Petruzzellis]

He lies that he uses Windows, while you know he never recorded it on the fly and really played with it. Having to deal with the use of Debian would just confuse the general user.

Vennie Bowden, Real Estate Agent is commonly seen posting "THERE IS NO" when it comes to data on the web where information is easy to find... but Vennie Bowden, Real Estate Agent is just too dozy and lost to deduce any advice he reads. Any heinously butthurt welfare receiver could easily do the same. Not only did Pascal Hambourg's request not refer to the "kernel", it has nada to do with computers. Vennie Bowden, Real Estate Agent should enter a drug rehab program. Vennie Bowden, Real Estate Agent-like advocates are still talking about the Debian "desktop" as if that seriously could happen.

The teller of untruths does it every time. Then the flood begins. Because the sissy just has to run to other groups in an effort to get attention from someone. Anyone.

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https://youtu.be/dNhvVfD4zu4
https://youtu.be/D_so1dvjeyI
https://youtu.be/UkAyrfOZaXc
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[Steven Petruzzellis]

How is GIMP on Linux doing anything above the lowest common denominator? Why would you want to restrict any applications on GNU/Linux to what can be done on lower end systems?

He pretends that he uses ChromeOS, while he never used it on a modern device and really used it.

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[Steven Petruzzellis]

Until or unless The Flying Spaghetti Monster offers up his 'superior' GNU/Linux quick fix for review, there is no threat, just wild claims. By following 'lawyers' like that you get moral imperatives like 'pride'. Carried to its (un)reasonable solution, the idea that it's 'discrimination' for a conservative normal guy to not wish to have sex with a transvestite is instituted. What I do is certainly technically correct.

No no. He never agreed to stop flooding. He lied about his trolling just as you would expect.

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