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Henry Jones

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Jun 25, 2016, 2:51:26 PM6/25/16
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I have been on Linux for about six months but today is
the first time I put a known good data cd disc into the
cd/dvd disc drive.

How do I find the cdrom on Ubuntu 14.04 with KDE?

The cdrom drive is not showing up under "Devices" in either
Dolphin or Nautilus. http://i63.tinypic.com/2yzj6zq.jpg

How can I 'Ping' the cdrom to see if it's alive?

Mike Easter

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Jun 25, 2016, 3:20:39 PM6/25/16
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Henry Jones wrote:
> I have been on Linux for about six months but today is
> the first time I put a known good data cd disc into the
> cd/dvd disc drive.
>
> How do I find the cdrom on Ubuntu 14.04 with KDE?
>
> The cdrom drive is not showing up under "Devices" in either
> Dolphin or Nautilus. http://i63.tinypic.com/2yzj6zq.jpg

In your pic I see in the L pane under Devices one named DATA in both
file managers.

> How can I 'Ping' the cdrom to see if it's alive?

You can use

wodim --devices




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Mike Easter

Henry Jones

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Jun 25, 2016, 3:49:16 PM6/25/16
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Mike Easter wrote:

> In your pic I see in the L pane under Devices one named DATA in both
> file managers.
>
>> How can I 'Ping' the cdrom to see if it's alive?
>
> You can use
>
> wodim --devices

DATA is just a separate space on disk for data outside
the operating system (for dual boot purposes).

Wodim exists as a program. But I'm not sure if it found anything.
http://i65.tinypic.com/66gp3a.jpg

Chris Elvidge

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Jun 25, 2016, 4:02:14 PM6/25/16
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In a terminal, ls -l /dev/sr* will tell you if the cd drive is there.
mount will tell you if /dev/sr[0-9] is mounted, and also where it is
mounted. If not mounted try mount /dev/sr[0-9] /mnt and then ls -l /mnt

Note: [0-9] means pick one of 0 to 9.


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Chris Elvidge, England

Mike Easter

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Jun 25, 2016, 4:57:41 PM6/25/16
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Henry Jones wrote:
> Wodim exists as a program. But I'm not sure if it found anything

Your pic shows wodim --scanbus but one dash is the syntax.

On my system either --scanbus or -scanbus works equally well.

I see a bug report in Ub.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrkit/+bug/1203559 wodim
doesn't find my DVD writer

In the report, after something like CE's ls -l /dev/sr* tells you the
device number, then the bug advisor used:

wodim dev=/dev/sr0 -checkdrive

... for a device he found to be sr0. On my system, that gives more
details about the optical and driver.

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William Unruh

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Jun 25, 2016, 5:04:55 PM6/25/16
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kscd is, I think, the kde cd player.
I assume it is music cd or something, not a data cd. A data cd can be
mounted. A music one cannot.
Go to the ubuntu menu and look for Sound and Videa and under that kscd.
r use vlc media player. Or kmplayer.



Henry Jones

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Jun 25, 2016, 5:47:55 PM6/25/16
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Thanks. That does find the cd drive.

wodim dev=/dev/sr0 -checkdrive
Device type : Removable CD-ROM
Version : 5
Response Format: 2
Capabilities :
Vendor_info : 'HL-DT-ST'
Identification : 'RW/DVD GCC-T20N '
Revision : '1.07'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-ROM.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R

Maybe I will try a boot off a linux usb stick.
What do you recommend for that?

What size USB stick? (32MB ok?)
What Linux distribution?

Henry Jones

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Jun 25, 2016, 5:56:08 PM6/25/16
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William Unruh wrote:

> kscd is, I think, the kde cd player.
> I assume it is music cd or something, not a data cd. A data cd can be
> mounted. A music one cannot.
> Go to the ubuntu menu and look for Sound and Videa and under that kscd.
> r use vlc media player. Or kmplayer.

I have all types of DVDs and CDs, from CD music to
DVD movies, but the *simplest* disk to put in was
a basic data disc which is a bunch of files backed
up to the cd disk.

If it can't read that (simplest of all), then it won't
read anything else. I've tried a few which work in other
machines so it's not the disc.

It's something in either Linux or the hardware.

What linux flash thumb drive boot software would you
recommend so that I can boot to a different OS to
check if it's the hardware of if it's the OS?

Henry Jones

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Jun 25, 2016, 5:59:05 PM6/25/16
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Chris Elvidge wrote:

> In a terminal, ls -l /dev/sr* will tell you if the cd drive is there.
> mount will tell you if /dev/sr[0-9] is mounted, and also where it is
> mounted. If not mounted try mount /dev/sr[0-9] /mnt and then ls -l /mnt
>
> Note: [0-9] means pick one of 0 to 9.

It seems to be /dev/sr0, just as you noted.

$ ls -l /dev/sr*
brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Jun 25 14:45 /dev/sr0

I don't think it is mounted though.
/dev/sda5 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
none on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (rw)
none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,size=10%,mode=0755)
none on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=5242880)
none on /run/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
none on /run/user type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=104857600,mode=0755)
none on /sys/fs/pstore type pstore (rw)
tmpfs on /mytmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,size=70%)
binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
systemd on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd type cgroup (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,none,name=systemd)
gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/1000/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=henry)
/dev/sda3 on /media/henry/DATA type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
/dev/sda2 on /media/henry/EE889B85286C4BB4 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)

Here is my attempt at mounting it:

$ mount /dev/sr0
mount: can't find /dev/sr0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab

Mike Easter

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Jun 25, 2016, 6:08:24 PM6/25/16
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Henry Jones wrote:
> Maybe I will try a boot off a linux usb stick.
> What do you recommend for that?

Earlier you mentioned Ub 14.04 KDE. If that means that you have
experience with KDE and Ub and you prefer that DE, then you might also
like the newest LTS Ub 16.04.

I recently downloaded an All in One for Ub 16.04 which has multiple DEs
on it. AIO groups the various Ubs in different ways, all 64 bit, all 32
bit, and mixed 64 and 32 bit.

However, if you aren't sure about Ub, Mint 17 has been extremely
popular, which has been based on Ub 14.04 because of the LTS. The
current released Mint is 17.3, based on Ub 14.04. Very soon Mint 18
will be released which will be based on Ub 16.04.

> What size USB stick? (32MB ok?)

You surely mean 32G. You can put a number of distros on a 32G stick.
In fact, you could put the AIO Ub 16.04 on there as well as the AIO Mint
17.3, which would give you a chance to look at Cinnamon.

A Windows based tool which allows putting multiple iso/s on USB is YUMI.

> What Linux distribution?

It depends on how you want to look around. If you wanted to look at a
variety of different bases and philosophies, you could look at some of
the newest releases like Fedora 24 - Red Hat related instead of Ub/Deb -
or Peppermint 7 - web oriented based on Ub.

Personally I'm a Mint fan and my current 'favorite' DE is XFCE, but that
choice is partly because I use a lot of old hardware. If your hardware
has more resources, you can choose DEs that use more resource like
Cinnamon and KDE and Gnome and Unity.

I dl a LOT of distros to boot them up live on USB, but don't install so
many.


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Mike Easter

Mike Easter

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Jun 25, 2016, 6:27:05 PM6/25/16
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Henry Jones wrote:
> Maybe I will try a boot off a linux usb stick.
> What do you recommend for that?

If your specific aim is to see this optical's data, you should be able
to do that without having to dl anything else. You are just having some
problem with things working 'out of the box'.

The earlier wodim problem was a wodim bug.

I'm not sure yet what was the first problem with your KDE file managers
not seeing the disk.

I presume you have tried ejecting and then reinserting the data disk
into the drive.

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Mike Easter

Mike Easter

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Jun 25, 2016, 6:28:09 PM6/25/16
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Henry Jones wrote:
> If it can't read that (simplest of all), then it won't
> read anything else. I've tried a few which work in other
> machines so it's not the disc.

The fact that you got the wodim report means that the system can see the
optical drive.

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Mike Easter

Kirk_Von_Rockstein

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Jun 25, 2016, 8:00:24 PM6/25/16
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On 2016-06-25, Henry Jones <he...@example.com> wrote:
Post the outputs of following commands. (run from terminal/console)

cat /etc/fstab | grep sr

ls -al /dev | grep sr

sudo hdparm -I /dev/sr[0,1]

Mike Easter

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Jun 25, 2016, 8:11:31 PM6/25/16
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Henry Jones wrote:
> Vendor_info : 'HL-DT-ST'
> Identification : 'RW/DVD GCC-T20N '

http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201409-15549/ The Dell
PowerEdge R730 server with the components described below has been
awarded the status of certified for Ubuntu. - Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS 64-bit

Cdrom Unknown HL-DT-ST CD-RW/DVD-ROM GCC-T20N

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William Unruh

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Jun 25, 2016, 9:29:50 PM6/25/16
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On 2016-06-25, Henry Jones <he...@example.com> wrote:
> William Unruh wrote:
>
>> kscd is, I think, the kde cd player.
>> I assume it is music cd or something, not a data cd. A data cd can be
>> mounted. A music one cannot.
>> Go to the ubuntu menu and look for Sound and Videa and under that kscd.
>> r use vlc media player. Or kmplayer.
>
> I have all types of DVDs and CDs, from CD music to
> DVD movies, but the *simplest* disk to put in was
> a basic data disc which is a bunch of files backed
> up to the cd disk.
>
> If it can't read that (simplest of all), then it won't
> read anything else. I've tried a few which work in other
> machines so it's not the disc.

That is not necessarily the simplest. Different drives have different
behaviour and sometimes a dvd written on one drive cannot be read by
another.
Anyway, it is a data dvd is it?

>
> It's something in either Linux or the hardware.
>
> What linux flash thumb drive boot software would you
> recommend so that I can boot to a different OS to
> check if it's the hardware of if it's the OS?

I use Mageia so you could try Mageia 5 Live dvd.

William Unruh

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Jun 25, 2016, 9:31:41 PM6/25/16
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On 2016-06-25, Henry Jones <he...@example.com> wrote:
> Chris Elvidge wrote:
>
> Here is my attempt at mounting it:
>
> $ mount /dev/sr0
> mount: can't find /dev/sr0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab

That is because you never told it where you wanted it mounted.

mkdir -p /media/cdrom
mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom
as root.


Henry Jones

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Jun 25, 2016, 9:53:58 PM6/25/16
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Mike Easter wrote:

> Earlier you mentioned Ub 14.04 KDE. If that means that you have
> experience with KDE and Ub and you prefer that DE, then you might also
> like the newest LTS Ub 16.04.

I'm not partial to Ubuntu but I had asked which is the best overall for
a noob, and folks told me to use Ubuntu, so I did.

The only reason for KDE is that Unity is for someone else, not me.
(I don't want to re-live that experience, so, just take that as a fact.)

> I recently downloaded an All in One for Ub 16.04 which has multiple DEs
> on it. AIO groups the various Ubs in different ways, all 64 bit, all 32
> bit, and mixed 64 and 32 bit.

My machine is 64 bit but I really don't need 64 bit for any particular
purpose.

> However, if you aren't sure about Ub, Mint 17 has been extremely
> popular, which has been based on Ub 14.04 because of the LTS. The
> current released Mint is 17.3, based on Ub 14.04. Very soon Mint 18
> will be released which will be based on Ub 16.04.

I really just need Linux. I first tried CentOS but it was lousy as a
desktop OS because it was missing the video editing software I wanted.

So I just want Linux with lots of home-related apps (not server related).
I like that I can find tutorials for Ubuntu so it needs to be widespread.

>> What size USB stick? (32MB ok?)
>
> You surely mean 32G. You can put a number of distros on a 32G stick.
> In fact, you could put the AIO Ub 16.04 on there as well as the AIO Mint
> 17.3, which would give you a chance to look at Cinnamon.

Good. Yes, I meant 32GB. I don't know what the smallest size practicable
is for a Linux bootable USB thumb drive.

> A Windows based tool which allows putting multiple iso/s on USB is YUMI.
I'm not sure I need *multiple* OSs on a flash drive.
One will do. :)
>
>> What Linux distribution?
>
> It depends on how you want to look around. If you wanted to look at a
> variety of different bases and philosophies, you could look at some of
> the newest releases like Fedora 24 - Red Hat related instead of Ub/Deb -
> or Peppermint 7 - web oriented based on Ub.

It was my fault for not mentioning that I first tried CentOS and found
it lacking for a home user due to older video editing software. I was
constantly finding that the software on RedHat-based systems is far
behind that of Debian-based systems, so I'll stick with apt-get over
yum.

> Personally I'm a Mint fan and my current 'favorite' DE is XFCE, but that
> choice is partly because I use a lot of old hardware. If your hardware
> has more resources, you can choose DEs that use more resource like
> Cinnamon and KDE and Gnome and Unity.

Good point. *All* my hardware is old (WinXP converted to Linux).
> I dl a LOT of distros to boot them up live on USB, but don't install so
> many.
I have never installed and created a bootable flash drive ever.
I'm probably fine with Kubuntu if that's available on a flash drive.

Henry Jones

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Jun 25, 2016, 9:54:36 PM6/25/16
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Mike Easter wrote:

> I presume you have tried ejecting and then reinserting the data disk
> into the drive.

A thousand times with a thousand discs! :)

Henry Jones

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Jun 25, 2016, 9:56:07 PM6/25/16
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Mike Easter wrote:

> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201409-15549/ The Dell
> PowerEdge R730 server with the components described below has been
> awarded the status of certified for Ubuntu. - Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS 64-bit
>
> Cdrom Unknown HL-DT-ST CD-RW/DVD-ROM GCC-T20N

It's a Lenovo W510 but I don't think that matters, does it?

Henry Jones

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Jun 25, 2016, 10:03:01 PM6/25/16
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William Unruh wrote:

>> Here is my attempt at mounting it:
>>
>> $ mount /dev/sr0
>> mount: can't find /dev/sr0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
>
> That is because you never told it where you wanted it mounted.
>
> mkdir -p /media/cdrom
> mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom
> as root.

Here's a screenshot:
http://i65.tinypic.com/2qb7gcn.jpg

There is a data cdrom (not a dvd) in the optical drive.

$ su - root
Password:
root@henry:~# mkdir -p /media/cdrom
root@henry:~# mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom
mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0
root@henry:~#

Did I do something wrong?

Henry Jones

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Jun 25, 2016, 10:05:58 PM6/25/16
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William Unruh wrote:

> Anyway, it is a data dvd is it?

Yes. I have "DVD" format DVDs, and data-format DVDs,
and one is just data while the other is video_ts
stuff.

I also have audio cd's where they are in a list
of about 20 WAV files (as I recall), but again,
I made sure to pop in "data" cds and dvds.


> I use Mageia so you could try Mageia 5 Live dvd.

OK. I presume I download an "image" and then I put
that "image" onto the flash drive?

I've downloaded ISO images before. Is it similar
for a thumb-drive image?

I presume I need to format the thumb drive first.
Does the format type matter?

Henry Jones

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Jun 25, 2016, 10:13:10 PM6/25/16
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Kirk_Von_Rockstein wrote:

> Post the outputs of following commands. (run from terminal/console)
>
> cat /etc/fstab | grep sr
>
> ls -al /dev | grep sr
>
> sudo hdparm -I /dev/sr[0,1]

1. This returned nothing:
cat /etc/fstab | grep sr

http://i65.tinypic.com/v8fqti.jpg

2. This returned a "cdrom":
root@henry:~# cat /etc/fstab | grep sr
root@henry:~# ls -al /dev | grep sr
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Jun 25 14:45 cdrom -> sr0
srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Jun 25 2016 log
brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Jun 25 14:45 sr0

3. This returned a lot!
sudo hdparm -I /dev/sr[0,1] > /tmp/foo

/dev/sr0:

ATAPI CD-ROM, with removable media
Model Number: HL-DT-STCD-RW/DVD DRIVE GCC-T20N
Serial Number:
Firmware Revision: 1.07
Standards:
Likely used CD-ROM ATAPI-1
Configuration:
DRQ response: 50us.
Packet size: 12 bytes
cache/buffer size = unknown
Capabilities:
LBA, IORDY(can be disabled)
DMA: sdma0 sdma1 sdma2 mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 *udma2
Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns
PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
Cycle time: no flow control=120ns IORDY flow control=120ns
Commands/features:
Enabled Supported:
Power Management feature set
PACKET command feature set
DEVICE_RESET command
NOP cmd
* Gen1 signaling speed (1.5Gb/s)
* Phy event counters
* Software settings preservation






William Unruh

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Jun 26, 2016, 12:08:59 AM6/26/16
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On 2016-06-26, Henry Jones <he...@example.com> wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:

>>
>> You surely mean 32G. You can put a number of distros on a 32G stick.
>> In fact, you could put the AIO Ub 16.04 on there as well as the AIO Mint
>> 17.3, which would give you a chance to look at Cinnamon.
>
> Good. Yes, I meant 32GB. I don't know what the smallest size practicable
> is for a Linux bootable USB thumb drive.

A CD ( which the live stuff fits) is 700MB. So the smallest is about
1GB. Which is impossible to buy these days.

>
> It was my fault for not mentioning that I first tried CentOS and found
> it lacking for a home user due to older video editing software. I was
> constantly finding that the software on RedHat-based systems is far
> behind that of Debian-based systems, so I'll stick with apt-get over

Actually Debian, whith its emphasis on stability over newness tends to
be older.
FFor this Mageia tends to try to be pretty cutting edge.

dd if=livecd.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M
(where livecd.iso is the iso of the live image and your usbstick is
sdb.)

Henry Jones

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Jun 26, 2016, 1:51:26 AM6/26/16
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William Unruh wrote:

> A CD ( which the live stuff fits) is 700MB. So the smallest is about
> 1GB. Which is impossible to buy these days.

Oh, I have *plenty* of tiny USB flash drives.
They used to give them away as branded freebies at trade shows
where I would grab a handful.

Kirk_Von_Rockstein

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Jun 26, 2016, 10:29:26 AM6/26/16
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On 2016-06-26, Henry Jones <he...@example.com> wrote:
> Kirk_Von_Rockstein wrote:
>
>> Post the outputs of following commands. (run from terminal/console)
>>
>> cat /etc/fstab | grep sr
>>
>> ls -al /dev | grep sr
>>
>> sudo hdparm -I /dev/sr[0,1]
>
> 1. This returned nothing:
> cat /etc/fstab | grep sr
>
> http://i65.tinypic.com/v8fqti.jpg

Ok, that is a problem. Add the line below to the /etc/fstab file

/dev/sr0 /mnt/cdrom auto ro,user,noauto,unhide 0 0

with a text editor (copy/paste)or run the below command in a terminal/console:
(no wrap, First command adds a new line to end of file. The second command
below adds the text between the double quotes to the end of file.)

sudo echo "" >> /etc/fstab
sudo echo "/dev/sr0 /mnt/cdrom auto ro,user,noauto,unhide 0 0" >> /etc/fstab


> 2. This returned a "cdrom":
> root@henry:~# cat /etc/fstab | grep sr
> root@henry:~# ls -al /dev | grep sr
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Jun 25 14:45 cdrom -> sr0
> srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Jun 25 2016 log
> brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Jun 25 14:45 sr0

You may want to add sym links to /dev/sr0 for cdrw,dvd,dvdrw
also. You can do so via a terminal/console running below commands:

sudo ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/cdrw
sudo ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/dvd
sudo ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/dvdrw

You would add the above lines to the bottom of
the /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh file to have the sym lnks created
each time you boot, since they are not being created via
the current methods.

You could add the command lines to the file by running below
commands in a terminal/console like so:

sudo echo "" >> /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh

(above command adds a new line to the file, so that following
line created via first below command
is not appended to an existing last line, if no new line aready
follows the existing last line in file)

sudo echo "ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/cdrw" >> /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
sudo echo "ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/dvd" >> /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
sudo echo "ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/dvdrw" >> /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh

After completing the steps above, the output of
ls -al /dev | grep sr
should look similar to below example output.

root@aptosid-shuttle:/home/kirk# ls -al /dev | grep sr
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Jun 26 06:48 cdrom -> sr0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Jun 26 06:48 cdrw -> sr0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Jun 26 06:48 dvd -> sr0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Jun 26 06:48 dvdrw -> sr0
brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Jun 26 06:48 sr0

Make sure the mount points exist in /mnt
You can create them with the following command:

sudo mkdir -p /mnt/cdrom;mkdir -p /mnt/cdrw;mkdir -p /mnt/dvd;mkdir -p /mnt/dvdrw
(watch wrap)

After all the above is completed, you then would need to run:
sudo mount -a
from terminal/console.

Note that Ubuntu/Mint may use /media for mounting optical devices.
In that case you would need to replace /mnt in all examples/commands
above with /media if you wanted to follow their conventions.

<snip>

Mike Easter

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Jun 26, 2016, 10:36:05 AM6/26/16
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Henry Jones wrote:

> My machine is 64 bit but I really don't need 64 bit for any particular
> purpose.

Lenovo says your machine came with 1, 2, or 4 G ram and supports up to
16G. Here's a lenovo page I found
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd003320 Detailed
specifications - ThinkPad T510, T510i, W510

> Good. Yes, I meant 32GB. I don't know what the smallest size practicable
> is for a Linux bootable USB thumb drive.

I use USBs from 1 to 32 for the numerous live linuxes I boot. Some
won't fit on a 1 or a 2. The AIOs won't fit on a 4. A recent one
wouldn't fit on an 8.

> It was my fault for not mentioning that I first tried CentOS and found
> it lacking for a home user due to older video editing software.

Ubuntu has a special version since 2007 called Ubuntu Studio with extra
multimedia and some kernel tweaking.

wp: an officially recognized derivative[5] of the Ubuntu Linux
distribution, which is explicitly geared to general multimedia production.

Its default DE is XFCE, which would be good if your ThinkPad came with a
lower ram configuration.

> I was
> constantly finding that the software on RedHat-based systems is far
> behind that of Debian-based systems, so I'll stick with apt-get over
> yum.

Altho' I prefer deb derivatives over rpm, the old 'rpm dependencies
hell' has been alleviated and the current Fedora doesn't use yum
anymore, but DFN. Long story there.

>> Personally I'm a Mint fan and my current 'favorite' DE is XFCE, but
>> that choice is partly because I use a lot of old hardware. If your
>> hardware has more resources, you can choose DEs that use more
>> resource like Cinnamon and KDE and Gnome and Unity.
>
> Good point. *All* my hardware is old (WinXP converted to Linux).

You may have some 1 or 2 G ram ones in there which should influence your
DE choices.

>> I dl a LOT of distros to boot them up live on USB, but don't install so
>> many.

> I have never installed and created a bootable flash drive ever.

My first preference is to use a Windows app to format and write my flash
drives called Rufus. My second preference is to use a Win app to write
more than one to a USB called YUMI. Sometimes I use other alternatives
including linux ones for special purposes.

https://rufus.akeo.ie/ Create bootable USB drives the easy way




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Mike Easter wrote:
> Henry Jones wrote:

>> It was my fault for not mentioning that I first tried CentOS and
>> found it lacking for a home user due to older video editing
>> software.
>
> Ubuntu has a special version since 2007 called Ubuntu Studio with extra
> multimedia and some kernel tweaking.

Here's a review of the previous v.
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/82755.html Ubuntu Studio Is a
Treasure Trove for Creative Types

The website: http://ubuntustudio.org/ We provide the full range of
multimedia content creation applications for each of our workflows:
audio, graphics, video, photography and publishing.

dl torrent or direct, 64 or 32, 16.04: http://ubuntustudio.org/download/


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I have gotten free USB flash drives, but they're tiny storage sized and
cheap quality. :(
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