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Soviet_Mario

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Jan 21, 2022, 11:31:19 AM1/21/22
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After reading about a project for a more easily CENSORABLE
DNS server in the EU, and reading further, I've come across
OpenDNS and in turn to this link (dunno if this is OpenDNS
or sth else)

https://pkg.cloudflareclient.com/packages/cloudflare-warp

Now I still have not installed anything, fearing
umpredictable results.

Do you know what this application would be doing, once
installed ?

Is it useful, useless, harmful ?
Is it a way to redirect my modem to this other DNS server ?

Which command should I type (and where ... terminal or the
browser ?) to firstly disclose what DNS server I am
currengly using ?

tnx for every reply to my many doubts


--
1) Resistere, resistere, resistere.
2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
Soviet_Mario - (aka Gatto_Vizzato)

Bit Twister

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Jan 21, 2022, 11:50:41 AM1/21/22
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 17:31:16 +0100, Soviet_Mario wrote:
> After reading about a project for a more easily CENSORABLE
> DNS server in the EU, and reading further, I've come across
> OpenDNS and in turn to this link (dunno if this is OpenDNS
> or sth else)
>
> https://pkg.cloudflareclient.com/packages/cloudflare-warp
>
> Now I still have not installed anything, fearing
> umpredictable results.

That is what makes VirtualBox nice.
You can create a virtual box guest that looks just like your setup
and you can practice/try whatever you like.
If you clone the guest, you can always delete/create a clone,
for starting over on testing or whatever.

>
> Do you know what this application would be doing, once
> installed ?

Not me.

> Is it useful, useless, harmful ?
> Is it a way to redirect my modem to this other DNS server ?

Depends on options are available in the modem.

> Which command should I type (and where ... terminal or the
> browser ?) to firstly disclose what DNS server I am
> currengly using ?

$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
# Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
domain home.test
nameserver 127.0.0.1
nameserver 8.8.8.8
search home.test tuner.test


Homework man resolv.conf

Paul

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Jan 21, 2022, 12:52:40 PM1/21/22
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On 1/21/2022 11:31 AM, Soviet_Mario wrote:
> After reading about a project for a more easily CENSORABLE DNS server in the EU, and reading further, I've come across OpenDNS and in turn to this link (dunno if this is OpenDNS or sth else)
>
> https://pkg.cloudflareclient.com/packages/cloudflare-warp
>
> Now I still have not installed anything, fearing umpredictable results.
>
> Do you know what this application would be doing, once installed ?
>
> Is it useful, useless, harmful ?
> Is it a way to redirect my modem to this other DNS server ?
>
> Which command should I type (and where ... terminal or the browser ?) to firstly disclose what DNS server I am currengly using ?
>
> tnx for every reply to my many doubts
>
>

https://linux.softpedia.com/get/Internet/DNS/WARP-Cloudflare-103864.shtml

"One of the main differences between a real VPN service and
WARP + 1.1.1.1 is the fact that a real VPN allows you to choose
the endpoint region (something not possible with WARP). This
means that WARP is not exactly fantastic at helping you get
around geo-restrictions. Furthermore, WARP won't hide your
IP address from the websites you visit."

It sounds like an encrypted tunnel that runs to a
Cloudflare server nearest to you (then, hope it is not *co=located*
at your ISP!).

Because it's a tunnel, your ISP cannot sample the (already https)
traffic passing by. Your ISP could still see the initial
connection IP addresses if WARP wasn't there and see the
connection setup stage perhaps. They would be robbed
of the opportunity, if tunneling to a Cloudflare server.

But once it arrives at Cloudflare (complete with DNS 1.1.1.1
lookups in the tunnel), it is emitted from the CLoudflare
tunnel in original condition and heads to the destination.

This means you *implicitly trust* the staff at CloudFlare,
more than you *implicitly trust* the staff at your ISP.
Cloudflare gets to sniff all your (already https) traffic
on the outgoing side.

That's how I see it.

For any VPN-like activities on the Internet, the first question
I have is:

How is the bandwidth being paid for ?

It used to cost around $0.03 per gigabyte of traffic, for
transit connections. If you're running a connection, the
whole live-long day through Cloudflare, how does Cloudflare
pay the bills ?

It's the same question I ask of any other "free" VPN services.
No business model relies on "levitation" for its finances.
Something must hold the mess up, against the forces of gravity.

Paul

John Hasler

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Jan 21, 2022, 1:08:05 PM1/21/22
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Soviet_Mario writes:
> dunno if this is OpenDNS or sth else)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDNS

> Is it a way to redirect my modem to this other DNS server ?

No. It's a VPN <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare#WARP
Why do you think you'd want it?
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John Hasler
jo...@sugarbit.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

Soviet_Mario

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Jan 21, 2022, 2:58:21 PM1/21/22
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On 21/01/22 18:48, John Hasler wrote:
> Soviet_Mario writes:
>> dunno if this is OpenDNS or sth else)
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDNS
>
>> Is it a way to redirect my modem to this other DNS server ?
>
> No. It's a VPN <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare#WARP
> Why do you think you'd want it?

I thought it was a DNS server. And the reason why has just
been explained : it seems that the EU is pushing to create a
more CENSORABLE own DNS server.

Dunno why I ended un on cloudware :(

Andrei Z.

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Jan 22, 2022, 12:22:42 AM1/22/22
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Soviet_Mario wrote:
> On 21/01/22 18:48, John Hasler wrote:
>>   Soviet_Mario writes:
>>> dunno if this is OpenDNS or sth else)
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDNS
>>
>>> Is it a way to redirect my modem to this other DNS server ?
>>
>> No.  It's a VPN <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare#WARP
>> Why do you think you'd want it?
>
> I thought it was a DNS server. And the reason why has just been
> explained : it seems that the EU is pushing to create a more CENSORABLE
> own DNS server.
>
> Dunno why I ended un on cloudware :(
>
Announcing WARP for Linux and Proxy Mode
https://blog.cloudflare.com/announcing-warp-for-linux-and-proxy-mode/

https://blog.cloudflare.com/searchresults/#q=WARP&sort=relevancy

Cloudflare WARP client · Cloudflare WARP client docs
https://developers.cloudflare.com/warp-client/

https://pkg.cloudflareclient.com/packages/cloudflare-warp

I didn't use it.


Soviet_Mario

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Jan 22, 2022, 8:07:52 AM1/22/22
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but it seems not a DNS server, as I was looking for, but a
VPN, as sb else specified :\

Soviet_Mario

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Jan 22, 2022, 8:18:09 AM1/22/22
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On 21/01/22 18:52, Paul wrote:
> On 1/21/2022 11:31 AM, Soviet_Mario wrote:
>> After reading about a project for a more easily CENSORABLE
>> DNS server in the EU, and reading further, I've come
>> across OpenDNS and in turn to this link (dunno if this is
>> OpenDNS or sth else)
>>
>> https://pkg.cloudflareclient.com/packages/cloudflare-warp
>>
>> Now I still have not installed anything, fearing
>> umpredictable results.
>>
>> Do you know what this application would be doing, once
>> installed ?
>>
>> Is it useful, useless, harmful ?
>> Is it a way to redirect my modem to this other DNS server ?
>>
>> Which command should I type (and where ... terminal or the
>> browser ?) to firstly disclose what DNS server I am
>> currengly using ?
>>
>> tnx for every reply to my many doubts
>>
>>
>

first of all, many thanks for precious info !

> https://linux.softpedia.com/get/Internet/DNS/WARP-Cloudflare-103864.shtml
>
>
>    "One of the main differences between a real VPN service and
>     WARP + 1.1.1.1 is the fact that a real VPN allows you
> to choose
>     the endpoint region (something not possible with WARP).
> This
>     means that WARP is not exactly fantastic at helping you
> get
>     around geo-restrictions. Furthermore, WARP won't hide your
>     IP address from the websites you visit."
>
> It sounds like an encrypted tunnel that runs to a
> Cloudflare server nearest to you (then, hope it is not
> *co=located*
> at your ISP!).

I was not even looking for a VPN, but for a really free and
uncensorable DNS server (and the way to "set" it) ... but I
keep this info good for the time I'll be searching a VPN !

>
> Because it's a tunnel, your ISP cannot sample the (already
> https)
> traffic passing by. Your ISP could still see the initial
> connection IP addresses if WARP wasn't there and see the
> connection setup stage perhaps. They would be robbed
> of the opportunity, if tunneling to a Cloudflare server.
>
> But once it arrives at Cloudflare (complete with DNS 1.1.1.1
> lookups in the tunnel), it is emitted from the CLoudflare
> tunnel in original condition and heads to the destination.
>
> This means you *implicitly trust* the staff at CloudFlare,
> more than you *implicitly trust* the staff at your ISP.

I don't trust particularly anybody to a company-level, I
just trust persons, after reading what they write, so ask
their opinions.
For me, if you reckon this service not very effective, for
example, this alternative is not viable :D
Because I noticed many times you are the kind of person that
helps others for free and "waste" a lot of time collecting
technical infos. These things are not so frequent out there
and don't go unnoticed for long.

> Cloudflare gets to sniff all your (already https) traffic
> on the outgoing side.
>
> That's how I see it.

enough ! :D

>
> For any VPN-like activities on the Internet, the first question
> I have is:
>
>    How is the bandwidth being paid for ?
>
> It used to cost around $0.03 per gigabyte of traffic, for
> transit connections. If you're running a connection, the
> whole live-long day through Cloudflare, how does Cloudflare
> pay the bills ?

selling your profiling data, you mean ? :D

>
> It's the same question I ask of any other "free" VPN services.

well, dunno where the boundary IS.

In the GNU world we all are finding the free contributions
of a lot of people that develops software for free, free of
charge by users.
Why not other kind of services ?

I mean, I dunno where the "unavoidable" costs dwell in the
whole chain of the internet

> No business model relies on "levitation" for its finances.
> Something must hold the mess up, against the forces of gravity.
>
>    Paul
>


Bit Twister

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Jan 22, 2022, 8:33:43 AM1/22/22
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 14:07:48 +0100, Soviet_Mario wrote:

>> https://pkg.cloudflareclient.com/packages/cloudflare-warp
>>
>> I didn't use it.
>>
>>
>
> but it seems not a DNS server, as I was looking for, but a
> VPN, as sb else specified :\


named is a dns server.

Soviet_Mario

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Jan 22, 2022, 11:20:11 PM1/22/22
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On 21/01/22 17:50, Bit Twister wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 17:31:16 +0100, Soviet_Mario wrote:
>> After reading about a project for a more easily CENSORABLE
>> DNS server in the EU, and reading further, I've come across
>> OpenDNS and in turn to this link (dunno if this is OpenDNS
>> or sth else)
>>
>> https://pkg.cloudflareclient.com/packages/cloudflare-warp
>>
>> Now I still have not installed anything, fearing
>> umpredictable results.
>
> That is what makes VirtualBox nice.

intresting. Actually I am completely unaware how a virtual
machine "sees" the internet.
Whether the Host filters and emulate the internet or it
grants sort of "tunnelling" through.
For sure the network card is virtual, but I cannot guess
what this implies in the way it is allowed to look OUTSIDE.

> You can create a virtual box guest that looks just like
your setup
> and you can practice/try whatever you like.

I would still be unaware to learn, at this stage I don't
even know the right QUESTIONS to pose.

> If you clone the guest, you can always delete/create a clone,
> for starting over on testing or whatever.
>
>>
>> Do you know what this application would be doing, once
>> installed ?
>
> Not me.
>
>> Is it useful, useless, harmful ?
>> Is it a way to redirect my modem to this other DNS server ?
>
> Depends on options are available in the modem.
>
>> Which command should I type (and where ... terminal or the
>> browser ?) to firstly disclose what DNS server I am
>> currengly using ?
>
> $ cat /etc/resolv.conf

tnx, I'm trying

the output is:
# Generated by NetworkManager
nameserver 192.168.1.1


> # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3)
generated by resolvconf(8)
> # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL
BE OVERWRITTEN
> domain home.test
> nameserver 127.0.0.1
> nameserver 8.8.8.8
> search home.test tuner.test
>
>
> Homework man resolv.conf

I'll read that, TNX

Steven Carroll

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Jan 23, 2022, 4:30:20 AM1/23/22
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Why do you keep repeating RonB? Steve Carroll is a Narcissistic Bigot.

Just look at Michael Glasser AKA Snit's posts and look at RonB's, there
is nothing for RonB to learn from an idiot like Michael Glasser AKA Snit.
But whatever, let him keep making an idiot of himself. I am sure one of
his stooges will come to the rescue.

Michael Glasser AKA Snit is a pinhead - folks have kill filtered his socks.
What he really should use is a script that keeps switching names, then
they'd have a chance at being half as idiotic as he is. Michael Glasser
AKA Snit is a toxic psychopath who regularly claims anyone who disagrees
with RonB to be a sock and, somehow, he needs us to believe that is reasonable.
Gotta be drugs. I bet he thinks his life was worse than RonB's.

-
Do not click this link!!
https://swisscows.com/web?query=steve%20carroll%20%22narcissistic%20bigot%22
<https://www.truepeoplesearch.com/details?phoneno=4234911448&rid=0x0&Diesel&Gremlin&Dustin_Cook>
http://cityrecord.engineering.nyu.edu/data/1910/1910-01-11.pdf
Dustin Cook the Fraud

Stephen Carroll - fretwizzer

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Jan 23, 2022, 8:46:40 AM1/23/22
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Dustin Cook AKA Diesel AKA Gremlin lying about his 1-423-491-1448 phone
number:

<XnsAC34A6...@1b2yUZpg51V1q.6EF009.jKrc>
-----
Prior to my giving you that cell number, there was no way
at all for you to link it to me in any possible way shape
or form. it doesn't come up in any records search on me.
It is using a recycled number, but damn near everything is
these days so that doesn't count as public information,
snit.
...
As in, the cell doesn't come back to me, wouldn't ever
come back to me, therefore the fact *I* have that cell
number is NOT public information. I find it very hard to
believe that even you'd have difficulty understanding this
concept.
-----

<XnsAC32AD...@VoX89Pwp95.083.GODrcd>
-----
I've only been sharing whats available via a public
database. You haven't. :)
-----

<XnsAC34A6...@1b2yUZpg51V1q.6EF009.jKrc>
-----
You cannot find any link to that number to me on any
database. Which makes it private. not public as you
incorrectly assume.
-----

<XnsAC34A6...@1b2yUZpg51V1q.6EF009.jKrc>
-----
> Your number, even tied to your name, is in a public
> database.

No, it's not. You already tried to link the two of us
previously.
-----

<XnsAC34A6...@1b2yUZpg51V1q.6EF009.jKrc>
-----
It's not a publically known number that links to me. And
he knows that.
-----

<XnsAC34A6...@1b2yUZpg51V1q.6EF009.jKrc>
-----
The number is NOT TIED TO ME in any public database, in
any way shape or form. You cannot get the number aside
from my having provided it to you via a google search or a
public records search.
-----

<XnsAC34A6...@1b2yUZpg51V1q.6EF009.jKrc>
-----
Regardless of where the number shows up, it doesn't tie
itself to me, and you cannot associate the number with me
via a google search, OR any number of free/paid public
records searches. Therefore, that is PRIVATE information
that you think you're holding over my head, not public as
you erroneously think here.
-----

<XnsAC34A6...@1b2yUZpg51V1q.6EF009.jKrc>
-----
It's not, running my name doesn't provide that cell
number. The two are not linked in any way shape or form.
The number itself as is the case with any recycled number
is in all kinds of databases, but it's not linked to me;
therefore, that IS PRIVATE information that you can't get
via a google search or a paid public records search.
-----

<XnsAC1D79...@889n4Sx8GWE.MNnkz50hZNVS.fh0SYyRp>
-----
They are relevant to the fact YOU INSERTED the phone
number I provided you verbally into a bogus call log video
you've taken the time to create. When I use the cell I
provided you the number for to make outbound calls, It
*ALWAYS* reports Kingsport, TN. Not one single time has it
ever, nor would it have any reason to report Johnson City.
It doesn't pick cities at random, it doesn't go by my
present location, either. That's actually fixed, as is the
number assigned to the phone.
-----

<XnsAC17C6...@4uMkH0FFER6s72gSy7J8N4B67.Mht3WTC373bt67J31gn>
-----
You didn't even score the right city, Snit. And, the
correct city is common, public knowledge with the regulars
here. The moment you unblocked 'Johnson City' in your
videos, you were busted.
-----

<XnsAC212D...@gt3i2B7y.5N0FOv3e210vLOej4O4doj8b>
-----
David, every single Address you've posted that's supposed
to be mine has been Kingsport. Not Johnson City. Don't you
think you should tell snit that was a fuckup on his part
by now? :)
-----

<XnsAC2110...@3R4NM89td0T86C.231IPkH>
-----
His response to that was to file a report with the
kingsport,tn police. Well hell, why not the johnson city
ones? That's where he claimed the call said it originated
from. :)
-----

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This broke the Internet!
https://az-gycc.org/category/gycc/
Dustin Cook is a functional illiterate fraud

Apd

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Jan 24, 2022, 12:13:02 AM1/24/22
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+++<http://www.hardwarebanter.com/showthread.php?p=1102356>+++

Dustin Cook aka Gremlin aka Diesel-Dum Threatens Man With A Bullet ToThe
Head

This shows that beyond any doubt he is a psychopath.

The only reason he has not killed yet is because he is a coward.

DuckFart farts another DEADLY THREAT: "Where I'm from John, you'd already
be dead. One bullet, right in the back of your head, execution style.
No witnesses. Happens all the time in NY. You don't run your mouth here
or anywhere else and not expect payback. I wasn't raised to take ****
and not give it back. Don't start no ****, and there wont be no ****
is my motto. KM started it, and now I do intend to finish it. I don't
care what harm it causes him IRL. The more the merrier."

He tries getting a man fired from his job by complaining to his employer
because the guy had the balls to disagree with The MIGHY DUSTY, SUPER
TURD OF USENET.

When a friend tries defending the man Duck**** is trying to destroy,
Duck**** THREATENS TO KILL HIM.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=...g/-WDTbGuUzisJ or https://tinyurl.com/qjvmuec

+++<https://in.memory.of.e.tern.al/comp.sys.mac.apps/thread/3928539>+++

Dustin Cook aka Diesel Brags In UNIX Group About Sucker Punching Others
With Viruses

Dustin Cook aka Diesel aka Raid aka Gremlin aka Casio aka Char Jackson

He and his kind are no different than the ghetto garbage who sucker
punch the unexpectant on the streets of America.

He cobbled together shit BASIC crap code which is even laughed at by
other virus writing/passing vermin.

Every time his crap code slid under the radar of the AV companies, he
claimed credit for being an outstanding genius coder. What really was
responsible for some of his crap to ruin the computers of others was
the sheer amount of viruses in the wild. No AV program could possibly
cover them all. It was a mathematical certainty that some viruses would
be unaccounted for in AV programs. But incompetent RL LUSERS like Dustin
Cook grab any crumb of undeserved "achievement" that happens to come
their way.

Notice how to this day he brags about his viruses? Do you really think
someone this HATEFUL and SPITEFUL of the success of others truly stopped
writing/passing viruses because he "changed"?

+++<https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/pcWhWxc1/dustin-cook-
gremlin-begs-ascii-for-his-real-name-needs-it-for-intelius-site>+++

Dustin The Turd of Usenet Cook asked: "If you think I have no skills,
post with your real name. :) "

How f'kn much "SKILL" does it take to go to the Intelius or some other
such site and use your credit card and let them do your so- called hacking
for you?

Incredible, isn't it? Just THINK of it. This Queen of Assholes, Dusti-
Boi Cook, ACTUALLY ASKED a would-be victim for his name!

QUIT GODDAMN LAUGHING! I'm SERIOUS!

http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3CXns9F978596DE5FDHHI2948AJD832%40no%3E


--
What Every Entrepreneur Must Know
https://www.bing.com/search?q=Dustin%20Cook%20functional%20illiterate%20fraud
Steve 'Narcissistic Bigot' Petruzzellis

Stefen Carroll - frelwizer 2945

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Jan 24, 2022, 12:28:34 AM1/24/22
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Peter the Klöwn can not help but know Theo knows he is just lying! Peter
the Klöwn is a crazed crackpot who repeatedly claims anyone who disagrees
with Theo to be a sock and, somehow, he needs us to believe that is true.
Gotta be glue. I will not ask Peter the Klöwn how any part of Theo's anatomy
tastes no matter how frequently Peter the Klöwn kisses it.

Just absurd trolling. And I am responding to that trolling. THAT is what
the "Peter the Klöwn circus" is. In Peter the Klöwn's case, I, and many
"crackers", had pointed to things Peter the Klöwn said and did, he denied
them. What Peter the Klöwn didn't deny was people sharing such stories,
which is how he ended up with his list, as anyone can see.
Gremlin Dustin Cook:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=gremlin+dustin+cook>
<https://www.bing.com/search?q=gremlin+dustin+cook>
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gremlin+dustin+cook>

Functionally Illiterate Fraud:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=functionally+illiterate+fraud>
<https://www.bing.com/search?q=functionally+illiterate+fraud>
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=functionally+illiterate+fraud>

Steve Carroll Petruzzellis:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=steve+carroll+petruzzellis>
<https://www.bing.com/search?q=steve+carroll+petruzzellis>
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=steve+carroll+petruzzellis>

Narcissistic Bigot:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=narcissistic+bigot>
<https://www.bing.com/search?q=narcissistic+bigot>
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=narcissistic+bigot>



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This broke the Internet!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/doonesbury/media/mudline/archive?page=10
Steve Carroll the Narcissistic Bigot
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