What method do YOU use to create your printable personal family calendar?

[Arlen G. Holder]

*What method do YOU use to create your printable personal family calendar?*
1. Do you have a program that creates a printable calendar? (this is best)
2. Do you have a Microsoft Office calendar template? (this would be nice)
3. Do you modify an existing calendar file? (this may work if it's editable)

I created a first-pass PDF calendar process but editing it is miserable:
o Windows Tutorial to annotate & print family calendar at home on 8.5x11 paper (please improve for all to benefit)
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/RA3bLfsgtFg/h86eO3l8CQAJ>

Seems to me there must be a better way to create a printable HOME calendar
that doesn't put our privacy on the Internet, and which uses free
Windows software tools sans ads, and which can be customized for family
personal events (such as birthdays and anniversaries).

As always, the goal is a general purpose solution, which usually means
o No payware
o No advertisements
o No logins of any kind (no need to store ANYTHING on the net)
etc.

*What method do YOU use to create your printable personal family calendar?*

[G Ross]

Calendar Creator 12. Not really expensive and easily set up. Makes
calendars in many formats. Will keep up with birthdays (will print
"John Jones 42nd birthday" this year and next year print "John Jones
43rd birthday" if you desire. Also keeps up with anniversaries, etc.
Been using earlier version for years

--
G Ross

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <qh42kf$cjb$1...@news.mixmin.net>,

Arlen G. Holder <arling...@nospam.net> wrote:
>*What method do YOU use to create your printable personal family calendar?*
>1. Do you have a program that creates a printable calendar? (this is best)
>2. Do you have a Microsoft Office calendar template? (this would be nice)
>3. Do you modify an existing calendar file? (this may work if it's editable)

I'm sorry.

This has *WHAT* to do with linux? (The only group I read to which this was posted)

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[RatchetJaw]

On 2019-07-22, Kenny McCormack <gaz...@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
> In article <qh42kf$cjb$1...@news.mixmin.net>,
> Arlen G. Holder <arling...@nospam.net> wrote:
>>*What method do YOU use to create your printable personal family calendar?*
>>1. Do you have a program that creates a printable calendar? (this is best)
>>2. Do you have a Microsoft Office calendar template? (this would be nice)
>>3. Do you modify an existing calendar file? (this may work if it's editable)
>
> I'm sorry.
>
> This has *WHAT* to do with linux? (The only group I read to which this was posted)

Nothing.
For those interested in a Linux calendar creator there is an
extension for LibreOffice that does this:

https://extensions.libreoffice.org/templates/calendar-creator

Other groups snipped.

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[Mike Easter]

Kenny McCormack wrote:

> Arlen G. Holder wrote:
>> *What method do YOU use to create your printable personal family calendar?*
>

> I'm sorry.
>
I don't think it is necessary to apologize for your qx.

> This has *WHAT* to do with linux? (The only group I read to which this was posted)

AGH is a very wordy reckless crossposter, but there are some small
redeeming 'qualities' among the negatives.

- many people use more than one system
- usenet groups are otherwise very inactive compared to the past
- reckless crossposting does bring some 'life'/activity into the groups
- linux users may have need for some kind of calendar print

The negatives are:

- AGH does a terrible job of creating a new topic subject
- he didn't do a good job of creating a target goal in the first place
- the technic/ strategy/ for his calendar approach is terrible



--
Mike Easter

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <gpm3pb...@mid.individual.net>,

Mike Easter <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote:
>Kenny McCormack wrote:
>> Arlen G. Holder wrote:
>>> *What method do YOU use to create your printable personal family calendar?*
>>
>> I'm sorry.
>>
>I don't think it is necessary to apologize for your qx.

I wasn't *really* apologizing...

>> This has *WHAT* to do with linux? (The only group I read to which this was posted)
>
>AGH is a very wordy reckless crossposter, but there are some small
>redeeming 'qualities' among the negatives.
>
> - many people use more than one system
> - usenet groups are otherwise very inactive compared to the past
> - reckless crossposting does bring some 'life'/activity into the groups
> - linux users may have need for some kind of calendar print
>
>The negatives are:
>
> - AGH does a terrible job of creating a new topic subject
> - he didn't do a good job of creating a target goal in the first place
> - the technic/ strategy/ for his calendar approach is terrible

Other than the point made above (that the "I'm sorry" was a rhetorical
device), I agree with everything you've written.

P.S. I *like* that this side-thread is posted to all the same (wrong)
groups that the original is posted to. I dislike it when people trim the
groups list.

--

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is a line from the movie, Mommie Dearest, said by Joan Crawford at a board meeting.

[Mike Easter]

Kenny McCormack wrote:
> P.S. I*like* that this side-thread is posted to all the same (wrong)

> groups that the original is posted to. I dislike it when people trim the
> groups list.

Typically I trim the groups list immediately to the group where I read
the msg because I am a strongly opined anti-crossposter, and I don't
really want to change my behavior to that of being a reckless x-poster,
neither w/ initial message nor f/up message.

Right now we are *respecting* all of the groups that AGH x-posted to and
respecting his Subject; while I respect neither of those choices.

Mixing anti-x-posters w/ reckless x-posters is like mixing the trimming
inline context-oriented posters w/ untrimmed top posters. I don't
believe in x-posting except in very very limited situations nor do I
believe in untrimmed top or bottom posting.

So far, I'm continuing this x-post, but I don't 'like' its
off-topicality. Our 'meta' discussion has nothing to do w/ freeware,
XP, linux, or win10, so this is a _raging_ OT thread so far.

--
Mike Easter

[Mayayana]

"Kenny McCormack" <gaz...@shell.xmission.com> wrote| Arlen G. Holder

<arling...@nospam.net> wrote:
| >*What method do YOU use to create your printable personal family
calendar?*
| >1. Do you have a program that creates a printable calendar? (this is
best)
| >2. Do you have a Microsoft Office calendar template? (this would be nice)
| >3. Do you modify an existing calendar file? (this may work if it's
editable)
|
| I'm sorry.
|
| This has *WHAT* to do with linux? (The only group I read to which this
was posted)

Linux people don't have families? Or do you mean that
Linux doesn't work with printers? :)

I'd recommend blocking Arlen and his various pseudonyms.
Then those of us who already do won't have to read pointless
complaints responding to inane posts.

[owl]

In alt.os.linux Arlen G. Holder <arling...@nospam.net> wrote:
> *What method do YOU use to create your printable personal family calendar?*
> 1. Do you have a program that creates a printable calendar? (this is best)

pcal (unix and windows) works fine if you need that sort of thing.
https://imgur.com/R9jWK4a

[Kenny McCormack]

pcalendar looks like it might be more useful for Arlen.

They could probably use it.

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[owl]

In alt.os.linux Kenny McCormack <gaz...@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
> In article <xub038g...@rooftop.invalid>, owl <o...@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>In alt.os.linux Arlen G. Holder <arling...@nospam.net> wrote:
>>> *What method do YOU use to create your printable personal family calendar?*
>>> 1. Do you have a program that creates a printable calendar? (this is best)
>>
>>pcal (unix and windows) works fine if you need that sort of thing.
>>https://imgur.com/R9jWK4a
>>
>
> pcalendar looks like it might be more useful for Arlen.
>
> They could probably use it.
>

I could have used that back in the day. My wife use to have severe
pms and I had to use moon phase to guess when to take shelter.

[Kenny McCormack]

Indeed.

Proving there's a technological solution for everything...

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[Arlen G. Holder]

On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 08:41:30 -0700, Mike Easter wrote:

> AGH is a very wordy reckless crossposter, but there are some small
> redeeming 'qualities' among the negatives.
>
> - many people use more than one system
> - usenet groups are otherwise very inactive compared to the past
> - reckless crossposting does bring some 'life'/activity into the groups
> - linux users may have need for some kind of calendar print
>
> The negatives are:
>
> - AGH does a terrible job of creating a new topic subject
> - he didn't do a good job of creating a target goal in the first place
> - the technic/ strategy/ for his calendar approach is terrible

Mike is right, as usual.

I apologize for not clearly formulating the question, and for posting to
the Linux newsgroup, where, to my credit, ALL my solutions work on ALL
platforms, or I don't propose them, namely:
o They (almost) always work on Linux, Windows, Mac, Android & iOS

Nonetheless, all my responses have been _only_ to the Windows 10 ng, where,
I must note with more than a bit of chagrin, that ng is horribly archived
so all the effort we expend in finding a solution will be poorly leveraged
to the rest of the home users on all five platforms, including Windows.
<https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/laSXXKCD/what-method-do-you-use-to-create-your-printable-personal-family-calendar>

Bear in mind that a FAMILY calendar, even one that contains information for
scores of households around the country, is a universal need that is easily
maintained in spreadsheet format.

The good news is that the NEED is almost universal, which is to find a
method for all five platforms to manage a separate single electronic file
for the purpose of being a FAMILY calendar that contains ONLY family events
of import such as birthdays and anniversaries.

Currently, my extended family maintains a single spreadsheet containing all
those family events - which we update roughly once or twice a year at most,
which are then emailed to scores of family members around the country.

The emailed spreadsheet can be updated by anyone, but it doesn't print well
in a calendar format, unfortunately.

Hence the goal was a single electronic file that DOES print well in a
calendar format - which - I posit - is of general use to all home owners on
all platforms, whether they be Mac, Linux, Windows, Android or iOS.

There are currently two solutions proposed, both of which have pros & cons

METHOD A: (Non_Internet Electronic Calendar Freeware)
1. Use calendar software to create & store a _separate_ family calendar db
2. Spit out that separate family calendar db to a common format
3. Mail that common format to family members scattered around the country
4. Each household prints that family calendar to their home printer

METHOD B: (Calendar file in editable common format)
1. Start with a calendar file in a commonly edited format
2. Edit that calendar file on any desired platform (linux included)
3. Mail that common format to family members scattered around the country
4. Each household prints that family calendar to their home printer

So far, for method A, possible common calendar formats seem to be
o Thunderbird-Lightening (maintain a separate family calendar database)
o Rainlendar (maintain a separate family calendar database)

For method B, the approach I suggested entails editing of PDF, which is
miserable, at best (hence, the reason for this question in the first
place).

The goal, as always, will be a GENERAL PURPOSE cross platform solution,
which usually entails the use of freeware, royalty free calendar templates,
and which never requires putting personal data on the Internet.

The solution will be posted to the poorly archived Windows ng, where the
main question to ask of all on all consumer platforms is.

What is a good way to maintain a single electronic database of family
related events which can be emailed to and printed by scores of family
members such that the final output is an 8.5x11 calendar printout.

The final cross platform solution will be posted to the poorly archived
Windows newsgroup:
o <http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10>
o <http://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com>
And not to the well archived Linux newsgroup - unless the solution turns
out to be Linux only (which I doubt will be the case):
o <http://tinyurl.com/alt-os-linux>
o <http://alt.os.linux.narkive.com>

I apologize for including the larger audience in the general purpose
solution, where the intent is (always) to find a common cross platform
solution, in this case, to disseminating an electronic file that can be
printed to 8.5x11 format containing family oriented dates.

In the end, the solution will likely contain:
a. A cross platform _separate_ db containing a family calendar
b. Which does not require putting personal data on the Internet
c. And which uses only free tools & templates (hopefully cross platform)
d. That can be emailed to all family members scattered about
d. Which they can then print on their 8.5x11 home printers
e. And, importantly, which can be easily edited & updated over time!

[Zaidy036]

The chosen method depends on features you want/need.

I made a simple Excel calendar sheet stored in DropBox which could be
printed if desired but it is not sophisticated like Google's or other
paid versions. I hide rows so I can search "back in time" as desired.

--
Zaidy036

[Dan Purgert]

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>
> I apologize for not clearly formulating the question, and for posting to
> the Linux newsgroup, where, to my credit, ALL my solutions work on ALL
> platforms, or I don't propose them, namely:
> o They (almost) always work on Linux, Windows, Mac, Android & iOS

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[Cybe R. Wizard]

On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 00:40:40 -0000 (UTC)
Dan Purgert <d...@djph.net> wrote:

> Arlen G. Holder wrote:
> >

> > ... ALL my

> > solutions work on ALL platforms, or I don't propose them,

> > o They (almost) always work
>

> These two statements are contradictory.

A little better trimming (above) shows it much better.

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[Dan Purgert]

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Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 00:40:40 -0000 (UTC)
> Dan Purgert <d...@djph.net> wrote:
>
>> Arlen G. Holder wrote:
>> >
>> > ... ALL my
>> > solutions work on ALL platforms, or I don't propose them,
>
>> > o They (almost) always work
>>
>> These two statements are contradictory.
>
> A little better trimming (above) shows it much better.
>

Good show, old sport.

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[Arlen G. Holder]

On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 04:33:37 -0400, Paul wrote:

> I compiled it (pcal-4.11.0.tgz) from source, in MinGW.
> No, the makefile is not set up for that.
>
> I did a test run afterwards. ( pcal.exe 260,884 bytes )
>
> pcal -P tabloid -o calendar.ps
>
> Here is the resulting output. A vanilla calendar.
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/4yNG3MpC/calendar.gif
>
> Click the "download original", to get the full (300DPI) resolution.
>
> The output is postscript but I rasterized it so
> people could see a sample, without actually compiling
> the damn thing.
>
> pcal development might have started in 1991.
> Last edits are 2007.
> Today is 2019.
> That's 16 years development, 12 years decay.
>
> *******
>
> In the Makefile, change this chunk...
>
> ifeq ($(OS),DJGPP) # DOS+DJGPP
> OS_NAME = "DOS+DJGPP"
> D_BUILD_ENV = -DBUILD_ENV_DJGPP
> PCAL = pcal.exe
> CC = gcc
> PACK = :
> else # Unix
> OS_NAME = "Unix"
> D_BUILD_ENV = -DBUILD_ENV_UNIX
> PCAL = pcal
> CC = /usr/bin/gcc
> PACK = compress
> # PACK = pack
> # PACK = gzip
> endif
>
> to a simpler:
>
> OS_NAME = "DOS+DJGPP"
> D_BUILD_ENV = -DBUILD_ENV_DJGPP
> PCAL = pcal.exe
> CC = gcc
> PACK = :
>
> I did "BUILD_ENV_DJGPP=0" in msys, but that wasn't
> seemingly getting passed, so it was quicker to just
> hack it out and force the environment variables so
> it could find the gcc in MinGW.
>
> In writefil.c I changed this:
>
> #include <pwd.h>
>
> to this:
>
> /* include <pwd.h> */
>
> because MinGW is not POSIX, there is no getpwuid and
> friends, and the function in question is vanity bullshit
> (has nothing to do with printing a calendar).
>
> Now, further down in writefil.c, *remove* this section. Delete it.
>
> /* Generate "For" and "Routing" comments if user name is known... */
>
> #if defined (BUILD_ENV_UNIX) || defined (BUILD_ENV_DJGPP)
> if ((pw = getpwuid(getuid())) != NULL && strcmp(pw->pw_name, "nobody" /* anonymous account */) != 0) {
> printf("%%%%For: %s\n", pw->pw_name);
> #ifdef BUILD_ENV_UNIX
> /* The 'pw->pw_gecos' element ('real' user name) is not available in
> MS-DOS or DOS+DJGPP build environments... */
> strcpy(tmp, pw->pw_gecos);
> if ((p = strchr(tmp, ',')) != NULL) *p = '\0';
> printf("%%%%Routing: %s\n", tmp);
> #endif
> }
> #endif
>
> That should be enough to get a "make" to work in MinGW (32 bit version).
> The pcal.exe is in the exec folder (you have to watch the make output
> to figure out where it went :-/ )
>
> The program over the years, has become a bit more portable, so
> at least a vanilla calendar can be output. I'm not going to
> debug
>
> make install
>
> as I don't know if there is a point to bothering with that.
>
> If you look at the "doc" folder, the parameters you can pass
> to the stupid thing are endless. I hope someone has worked
> examples somewhere, because it would take me all week to
> figure out what to do :-/
>
> Paul
> Copy "calendar_us.txt" as "calendar" and place
> in the same directory as "pcal.exe".
>
> The program looks for ".calendar", which would be a workable
> choice on Linux, and it also looks for "calendar",
> which is the working choice on a Windows system.
>
> Then try:
>
> pcal.exe -P tabloid -n Helvetica-Narrow/18 -o calendar.ps
>
> and the calendar will then show "Independence Day" as
> July 4th.
>
> The program was probably invented in B&W printer era,
> as the PostScript "colors" it refers to, have simple numeric values.
> For example "0.8/0.9" are likely two grayscale values.
>
> I don't see any way to add color portraits of puppies
> or kittens, so you're on your own there (use your colored
> pencils).
>
> Someone may have compiled this for Cygwin, but that doesn't
> necessarily mean it was an official package of Cygwin
> and can be fetched with the Cygwin package methods. It's
> probably less troublesome in Cygwin to do it. You would
> then need a minimum of three files, the pcal.exe plus
> the two DLLs that Cygwin uses for runtime support.
>
> Paul

Hi Paul,

This note is short as it goes to all the original groups - not just the
poorly archived Win10 ng where most of the suggestions are being explored.

Thanks for being one of a half dozen who (a) understood the question, and,
(b) who offered a purposefully helpful cross-platform solution of modifying
the Makefile in order to successfully compile the ancient Pcal source code
(1991 to 2007) on a current desktop OS.

> Here is the resulting output. A vanilla calendar.
> https://i.postimg.cc/4yNG3MpC/calendar.gif

Others who understood the question well enough to share purposefully
helpful technical insight were Keith Nuttle (TB/Lightning), RatchetJaw
(LibreOffice calendar creator), Apd (pcal 16-bit issues), G Ross (Calendar
Creator), owl (pcval) Michael Logies & Zaidy036 (Excel calendar creator &
Birthday Alarm calendar creation, & pyotr filipivich (Open Office Calc)).

Just some of the helpful proposed solutions currently under test, are
<https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-do-i-create-a-calendar-in-openoffice>
<https://extensions.libreoffice.org/templates/calendar-creator>
<https://www.calendarlabs.com/excel-calendar/>
<http://pcal.sourceforge.net/>
<https://www.birthdayalarm.com/>
<https://www.calendar-12.com/printable_calendar/2019>
<https://filehippo.com/download_ams-photo-calendar-creator/>
<https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/calendar/>
<https://www.rainlendar.net/cms/index.php>
<https://print-a-calendar.com/july-2019>
<https://www.vertex42.com/calendars/printable-calendars.html>
<https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/calendar-template>
etc.

The solution will be of general use to almost everyone, where this note is
simply to say I will explore all valid suggested solutions & report back in
the Win10 group the cross platform successful results after testing.

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Over and under killed.
What a waste of web ink.
Nothing better to do.

[William Poaster]

On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:00:17 +0000, Kenny McCormack wrote:

> In article <qh42kf$cjb$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen G. Holder
> <arling...@nospam.net> wrote:
>>*What method do YOU use to create your printable personal family
>>calendar?* 1. Do you have a program that creates a printable calendar?
>>(this is best) 2. Do you have a Microsoft Office calendar template? (this
>>would be nice) 3. Do you modify an existing calendar file? (this may work
>>if it's editable)
>
> I'm sorry.
>
> This has *WHAT* to do with linux? (The only group I read to which this
> was posted)

Nothing, it's another trolling fuckwit.

Newsgroups:
alt.comp.freeware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.os.linux

<thread killed>

[BouffantTHairdo]

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 14:50:17 +0100, William Poaster <w...@dev.null> wrote:

another trolling fuckwit.

<killed>

*plonk*

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <pan.2019.07.27....@dev.null>, William Poaster

<w...@dev.null> writes:
>On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:00:17 +0000, Kenny McCormack wrote:

[]

>> This has *WHAT* to do with linux? (The only group I read to which this
>> was posted)
>
>Nothing, it's another trolling fuckwit.
>
>Newsgroups:
>alt.comp.freeware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.genera
>l,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.os.linux
>
><thread killed>

Interesting: how do you kill a thread?

Or do you just mean you've blocked it on _your_ news client?
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