What Linux freeware will blur faces & show all frames of a 30 second AVI video?

[Danny D.]

Q: What's the best freeware on Linux for editing AVIs?

I need to edit a short 30-second AVI video from a Nikon D5000 &
would like to ask what is the best Linux (Centos) freeware for
the two tasks of:
a) Blurring out a face for about 10 seconds in the 30 second clip
b) Seeing all the frames, and deleting one or two frames as needed

May I ask those who have done this:
Q: What's the best freeware on Linux for editing AVIs?

NOTE: The only video editor currently installed is the avidemux
video editor, which I've used to convert file formats.

[Danny D.]

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 22:13:40 -0700 LaVerne Streep-Herford wrote:

>> NOTE: The only video editor currently installed is the avidemux
>> video editor, which I've used to convert file formats.

All I really need is:
a) View all frames so I can delete the bad ones
b) Blur faces as needed on select frames
c) Optionally, add overlay text for DIY videos

This looks like the sum total of freeware Linux video editors:
01. Avidemux (Linux, Mac OS X, Windows)
02. Blender VSE (Linux, Mac OS X, Windows)
03. Cinelerra (Linux)
04. Jahshaka (Linux, Mac OS X, Windows)
05. Kdenlive (Linux, Mac OS X, FreeBSD)
06. Kino (Linux)
07. Lightworks (Windows, Linux and Mac OS X versions in the making)
08. LiVES (BSD, IRIX, Linux, Solaris)
09. Lumiera (Linux)
10. OpenShot Video Editor (Linux)
11. PiTiVi (Linux)
12. VideoLan Movie Creator (Linux)

I'm starting to read up on some of them, as the expense in freeware
is gleaning the necessary knowledge of which ones are worth exploring
further:

http://linux.about.com/od/softeditor/a/swvideoediting.htm
Kino, LiVES, OpenShot

http://www.pitivi.org
Pitivi

http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/693365-top-3-linux-video-editors
OpenShot, Blender, Cinelarra

http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/top5-linux-video-editing-system-software
Avidemux, Cinelerra, Kdenlive, Kino, LiVES

[Shadow]

I'm having trouble making VLC render subtitles correctly ---
total noob.
But this looked interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISqvkqyvnZM

http://lives.sourceforge.net/index.php?do=tutorial-wiki

Remember, if it's just for a home porn movie, this would be
fine, but a clip of your last bank robbery would probably be worth
reversing. Pixel and blur can be reversed.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

[J G Miller]

On Sunday, April 14th, 2013, at 04:05:23h +0000, Danny D pondered:

> Q: What's the best freeware on Linux for editing AVIs?

Best according to which and whose criteria?

Your question is effectively meaningless.


Take a look at Cinelerra

<http://heroinewarrior.COM/cinelerra.php>

VIDEO EFFECTS : blur


and also Kdenlive

<http://kdenlive.ORG/>

which mentions several blur and pixellation effects
(inbuilt and from MLT and frei0r) on its features page.

[Bob Loblaw]

I'm sure you'll find it on Google.

[Danny D.]

On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 13:18:53 +0000 J G Miller wrote:

> Best according to which and whose criteria?
> Your question is effectively meaningless.

Certainly there is a "best" freeware video editor for the
stated task at hand.
- Linux (by which I mean "native" Linux)
- Video clip (which, Rich pointed out, was a 24fps Motion JPEG)
- Ability to see all frames and remove some
- Blur faces

At the moment, out of the dozen native Linux freeware editors:
Avidemux, Blender, Cinelerra, Jahshaka, Kdenlive, Kino,
Lightworks, LiVES, Lumiera, OpenShot, PiTiVi, & VideoLan

Avidemux was recommended for its simplicity of deleting
frames, and blurring of selected areas.

And OpenShot was suggested as a viable alternative.

And Cinelerra & Kdenlive for blur.

I'll test out the best to see which work for the task at hand.

[unruh]

Make sure that you report back on what you found.

>

[Danny D.]

On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:53:41 +0000 Danny D. wrote:

> Worse yet, I'm on Centos, so, it's going to be even harder.

Well, I tried installing the entire set of freeware video
editors that are on Linux, with mixed results.

These installed easily on Centos 6:
# yum --enablerepo=naulinux-school install avidemux
# yum --enablerepo=epel install blender
# yum --enablerepo rpmforge install kino

These failed to install for lack of a standard RPM repository:
cinelerra
jahshaka
lightworks
lives
lumiera
pitivi
videolan

And these failed to install for other reasons:
kdenlive
openshot

So it looks like "my" easy options are only the three that installed.
I'll check out kino first, as blender froze my system when I ran it.

[Danny D.]

On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 20:35:45 +0000 unruh wrote:

> Make sure that you report back on what you found.

Of the dozen freeware Linux video editors listed in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software

On Centos 6, only these three installed easily:
avidemux, blender, kino

These 7 did not have a common readily available Centos repository:
cinelerra, jahshaka, lightworks, lives, lumiera, pitivi, videolan

And, these two had repositories found, but failed to install:
kdenlive requires nux-dextop but it wasn't found in nux-dextop
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=nux-dextop install
REPORTS: No package kdenlive available. Error: Nothing to do
$ sudo yum --enablerepo nux.noarch install openshot
REPORTS: Error getting repository data for nux.noarch, repository not found

So, it looks like the only Linux freeware video editors easy to test
for me will be the first three in the list above.

[Alan Browne]

On 2013.04.14 18:18 , Danny D. wrote:
<>

Please don't post video threads to rpd - it is a 'still' digital
photography group.

[Danny D.]

On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:32:09 +0000 rich wrote:

> Since this is a short clip and there is a learning curve,
> I would stick with Avidemux.

I agree that the expense of freeware is the learning
curve - until we find the tool that does the job simplest.

In the end, of the dozen video editors, only three would
install on Centos (avidemux, kino, & blender); and, since
blender wouldn't open the AVI without errors, the only
choices I had, in reality, were avidemux & kino.

Kino had the one advantage over avidemux in that it showed
all the frames and it saved all the frames (if desired)
as individual JPEG files (so that I could see exactly where
to cut).

Other than that, Avidemux was as easy to select the section
to cut out.

If anyone wants to try this basic task, it's pretty easy:
$ avidemux foo.avi
[Avidemux]move the scroll bar to the start of where you want to cut
[Avidemux]Edit->Set marker A
[Avidemux]move the scroll bar to the end of where you want to cut
[Avidemux]Edit->Set marker B
[Avidemux]Edit->Delete
[Avidemux]File->Save->Save Video->bar.avi

With Kino, we could see & save all the frames individually:
$ kino foo.avi
It asks this question, which you just say "OK" to:
==> "/tmp/foo.avi" is not a DV file. Do you want to import it?
This creates foo.avi.dv (which is many times larger than foo.avi!)
Cutting is the same here as in avidemux so I won't elaborate further.

But what is nice about Kino over Avidemux is the ability to show scenes:
[Kino]View->Timeline (this shows all the scenes as separate frames)

Another plus about Kino over Avidemux is the ability to export frames:
[Kino]View->Export->Stills->foo.jpg->Export
This exports each frame as a separate file named "foo_00000n.jpg"
where "n" is the sequential frame number (e.g., foo_000099.jpg).

Now that the short video clip has been edited down a bit, it's
time to see how I can blur the faces ...

[J G Miller]

On Sunday, April 14th, 2013, at 22:10:17h +0000, Danny D. wrote:

> So it looks like "my" easy options are only the three that installed.

It is easy to download the source code for mlt and kdenlive, install
the required development packages, and then compile and install mlt
and kdenlive.

If I can do it, then it is surely within your capability.

Sometimes to get the best, you have to do a little work.

[unruh]

On 2013-04-15, Danny D. <da...@pleasedontemail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:32:09 +0000 rich wrote:
>
>> Since this is a short clip and there is a learning curve,
>> I would stick with Avidemux.
>
> I agree that the expense of freeware is the learning
> curve - until we find the tool that does the job simplest.
>
> In the end, of the dozen video editors, only three would
> install on Centos (avidemux, kino, & blender); and, since
> blender wouldn't open the AVI without errors, the only
> choices I had, in reality, were avidemux & kino.

Well, no. Only three were prepackaged to make it easy for you to install
on Centos, you said. You never, for example, tried to compile any of the
others, so you have no idea if they would work, or how they would work.
That you went for the "easy to install" route is of course fine, but
does not say anything about the others except that they have not been
appropriately packaged.

The rest of your description of how the two programs worked for you is
of course very helpful. Thanks for the response.

[Danny D.]

On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:26:01 +0000 J G Miller wrote:

> It is easy to download the source code for mlt and kdenlive

Thanks. I'm fine with the bare-bones editing ability of Avidemux
(it turned out to be easy to snip sections of video).

What I'm working on now is how to fuzz out a face.

The problem I'm having with Avidemux is that I can't seem
to find the "Mplayer delogo" filter ...

> Take the part with the face and apply the Avidemux
> "Mplayer delogo" filter and save.

[Danny D.]

On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:37:51 +0000 unruh wrote:

> you went for the "easy to install" route is of course fine,
> but does not say anything about the others

This is true.

Of the 12 programs, only three were packaged easily for Centos.
(In my experience, after a year on Centos, that's about the
nominal ratio of freeware tools pre-packaged for Centos' yum.)

It turned out that cutting out snippets of video was trivially
easy with Avidemux so, now I'm working on how to blur faces.

[dx...@albury.nospam.net.au]

Danny, I'm looking at converting VHS cassettes to digital so that I can
then edit them, so your posting this is of interest, even if I'll be
trying my video work on Mandriva or Mageina.

I've got two questions for you, if you can.....

1. Can you easily "copy & save" sections of the file, so you can make a
new file of all the "copy & save" sections *and* still have the
original, complete, file??, and,

2. Can you easily insert "Title" frames, e.g. "Christmas 2009", into the
video stream??

TIA

Daniel

[unruh]

That is of course trivial at the OS level even if it is not at the
program level(but I would doubt strongly that it is not possible at the
program level, but do not know.) Just copy the file to a backup before
editing it.

[dx...@albury.nospam.net.au]

Hadn't thought about doing it that way, but yes, it would work. Just
wondering if one of the edit programs had that ability,

Daniel

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