On 12.09.2021 at 10:09, bad sector scribbled:
> not really a linux issue but there is no kde usenet group that I know
There used to be one -- I forgot its name -- but apparently it was
dropped. It was either way a low-traffic group, and I doubt whether
the KDE devs would have been monitoring it.
> Maybe the same pager is used for both activities and desktops, it
> could be that confusion arises.
They are different pagers, but it stands to reason that they would be
sharing some of their code.
> All "I" want is individually set up multiple desktops but the arrival
> of plasma and activities did that in.
The activities are not a Plasma-specific thing. As I understand it,
it's a freedesktop.org
thing, which in practice means that the concept
originated in GNOME, or if you will, at RedHat.
> The closest I can get is to use an activity pager and a separate
> desktop pager, the latter always staying on #1 so that paging the
> activity approximately satisfies my needs. It's regrettable that true
> and backward compatible desktop paging didn't make the new plasma
> features list.
There were too many different ways between the offer of desktop
environments and window managers in how they handled virtual desktops.
created a number of standards for desktop
environments to live up to.
Some do and some don't, and one could of course criticize
for pushing the GNOME design decisions on the rest of
the desktop offerings, but at least there's some interoperability now.
I remember a time in the past when you couldn't even copy/paste from a
KDE application into a GNOME application and vice versa -- it might
have worked with text, but it certainly wouldn't have worked with
images or other objects.
> What happens is that every now and then the activity pager simply
> fails to appear in the left edge panel (i use side panels). When this
> happens I also lose the backgrounds be they images stored off-system
> or just colors. The fubar usually fixes itself after a couple of
> graphics relaunches, sometimes via just relogging other times via
> rebooting, neither of which is ideal I would think.
> Is there a problem I should try to fix or is all this inevitable?
This is the first time I hear of this phenomenon, and it might be
distribution-specific. I am running Manjaro and I've never had that
happen to myself -- I've got two activities and twelve virtual desktops
in each -- nor have I read about it on the Manjaro forum, where I am a
moderator. And believe me, the Manjaro forum is full of n00bs and even
outright idiots, so if such a problem existed in Manjaro, then we
certainly would have heard about it by now.
The best advice I can give you is to check the forum for your own
distribution -- assuming they have one, but I'd be surprised if they
didn't -- for any similar reports (and a possible solution), and
possibly also bugs.kde.org
. If it's an upstream problem and it's
reproducible, then there may already be a bug report on it -- and if
not, you can file one. I've already submitted several bug reports to
upstream KDE myself, and some of those have already gotten fixed in the
= Aragorn =