New KDE 3.4 rpm's today
Michael Soibelman
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/
supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.2
Enjoy :~)
P.S. Now it talks ........Cool (Or is that Kool ??)
BR
> P.S. Now it talks ........Cool (Or is that Kool ??)
Lovely. Even more things that talk.
houghi
> If any of you, like me, need the newest KDE (3.4) here they are:
Just curious, why do you need it? I am not running KDE, so I do not
care.
--
houghi Please to not toppost http://houghi.org
My experience with SUSE
You can have my keyboard ...
if you can pry it from my dead, cold, stiff fingers
David W Studeman
> Michael Soibelman wrote:
>> If any of you, like me, need the newest KDE (3.4) here they are:
>
> Just curious, why do you need it? I am not running KDE, so I do not
> care.
>
I don't believe anyone asked you if you are running KDE or if you care.
Nothing here is about you or directed at you despite what too many years of
psychotherapy may have taught you.
--
Dave
David W Studeman
You need to download the full SuSE KDE from KDE first. The supplementary
will not give you the full install but it will update 3.4 and update other
programs for kde4 that are not in the base kde4 install.
--
Dave
Kevin Nathan
David W Studeman <eat_your...@hormel.com> wrote:
> You need to download the full SuSE KDE from KDE first.
Could you enlighten us as to *where* SUSE has the full install of KDE
3.4?
> The supplementary will not give you the full install.
Hmmm. Could have fooled me . . . :-)
--
Kevin Nathan (Arizona, USA)
Open standards. Open source. Open minds.
The command line is the front line.
Kevin Nathan
Michael Soibelman <notav...@here.net> wrote:
> If any of you, like me, need the newest KDE (3.4) here they are:
>
> ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/
> supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.2
>
If you use YaST's 'Change source of installation', don't forget to add
this dir to the end of that link, above:
/yast-source
Might want to read our FAQ, Subject 15 for an overview of the process:
http://www.project54.com/linux/
Amnon Feiner
order of execution?
houghi
<plonk>
Kevin Nathan
Read our FAQ, Subject 15, as I mentioned in my msg to which you are
responding. All you need to do is adjust the version numbers
appropriately (it was written for the KDE 3.2 upgrade under SUSE 9.0).
If you still have questions after reading that, let us know. :-)
A. Feiner
Kevin
where is the FAQ?...
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:10:30 GMT
> Amnon Feiner <afe...@linux.ladco> wrote:
>
>> As a newbie with suicidel wishes, what is the best way to upgrade?
>> What order of execution?
>
> Read our FAQ, Subject 15, as I mentioned in my msg to which you are
> responding. All you need to do is adjust the version numbers
> appropriately (it was written for the KDE 3.2 upgrade under SUSE 9.0).
> If you still have questions after reading that, let us know. :-)
>
>
--
Verizon
James Knott
> If any of you, like me, need the newest KDE (3.4) here they are:
>
> ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/
> supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.2
I wonder if KWifimanager finally works?
Hyperion
> If any of you, like me, need the newest KDE (3.4) here they are:
>
> ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/
> supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.2
It seems kdegraphics3 is missing. Does the 3.3.2-3 not to be replaced by a
version 3.4?
--
Regards,
Hyperion
Marius Mosimann
I did the update, up to now I kinda like it. What I miss though is that when
I do a right click on some file the option "delete" has gone and there's
only the trashcan left. I never actually used the trashcan so now I'll have
to go through one click more to get rid of old files. Too bad.
Marius
Siegbert Baude
>
> I did the update, up to now I kinda like it. What I miss though is that when
> I do a right click on some file the option "delete" has gone and there's
> only the trashcan left. I never actually used the trashcan so now I'll have
> to go through one click more to get rid of old files. Too bad.
I don't use 3.4 myself at the moment, but I believe to remember some
discussion about this. IIRC in kontrol center there is an option to
adjust the default behaviour of "delete".
HTH
Ciao
Siegbert
Marius Mosimann
> I don't use 3.4 myself at the moment, but I believe to remember some
> discussion about this. IIRC in kontrol center there is an option to
> adjust the default behaviour of "delete".
>
> HTH
>
> Ciao
> Siegbert
Found it, thanks.
Marius
Manfred
>>If any of you, like me, need the newest KDE (3.4) here they are:
>
> Just curious, why do you need it? I am not running KDE, so I do not
> care.
>
<http://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20050316-2.txt>
<http://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20050316-3.txt>
<http://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20050316-1.txt>
/Manfred
--
Do not click any hyperlinks that you do not trust.
Type them in the Address bar yourself.
(Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 833786)
David W Studeman
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:30:55 -0800
> David W Studeman <eat_your...@hormel.com> wrote:
>
>> You need to download the full SuSE KDE from KDE first.
>
> Could you enlighten us as to *where* SUSE has the full install of KDE 3.4?
>
>
>> The supplementary will not give you the full install.
>
> Hmmm. Could have fooled me . . . :-)
Then you were fooled, you also don't have the updated QT rpm's which is
what every version of KDE is designed to take advantage of. You passed the
KDE folder when you scrolled down to suse under ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux.
SuSE is one of a very few distros that have the entire version on KDE
mirrors when a new version is released. There are 100 rpm's that take up
238MB. After each version of KDE is put there under stable, subsequent
updates and addons are then retrieved from the supplementary folder. Since
you are at the site, you need
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/kde/stable/3.4/SuSE/ix86/9.2 and then do rpm
-Fvh * from the folder you downloaded to. You may need to add a few things
to meet some new dependencies so have yast open to use the package manager
if needed.
Dave
ge...@spam.nl
> Michael Soibelman wrote:
>> If any of you, like me, need the newest KDE (3.4) here they are:
>
> Just curious, why do you need it? I am not running KDE, so I do not
> care.
>
Stupid irrelevant answer. Nobody asked you whether you use KDE or not. If
you do, fine. If you don't, no problem. But if you don't, don't post stupid
answers like this, 'cause we just don't care about your desktop. You are
just one of many that choose to use something else. That's good. But if
they all decided to post stupidity like this, then the NG would be swamped.
So go to your relevant NG.
Jan (who likes KDE 3.4 BTW)
Foxy
I think it is a question of arrogance. Some people do not use KDE
because they perceive it too Windowish and look down on those who use
it. It is very annoying and sometimes even offensive.I think that people
choose Linux to have a right to pick up the environment they like and do
not want to hear that KDE or whatever is not cool.
houghi
> houghi wrote:
>>>If any of you, like me, need the newest KDE (3.4) here they are:
>>
>> Just curious, why do you need it? I am not running KDE, so I do not
>> care.
>>
> Security issues?
><http://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20050316-2.txt>
><http://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20050316-3.txt>
><http://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20050316-1.txt>
Not really an issue if you have the SUSE ones:
For older versions of KDE Source code patches have been made
available which fix these vulnerabilities. Contact your OS vendor /
binary package provider for information about how to obtain updated
binary packages.
houghi
> houghi wrote:
>
>> Michael Soibelman wrote:
>>> If any of you, like me, need the newest KDE (3.4) here they are:
>>
>> Just curious, why do you need it? I am not running KDE, so I do not
>> care.
>>
>
> Stupid irrelevant answer.
What is stupid about being interested why people update?
houghi
> I think it is a question of arrogance. Some people do not use KDE
> because they perceive it too Windowish and look down on those who use
> it. It is very annoying and sometimes even offensive.I think that people
> choose Linux to have a right to pick up the environment they like and do
> not want to hear that KDE or whatever is not cool.
WTF? I am not looking down on anybody using whatever. I just would like
to know why people update their software even though I do not use it
myself.
My reasoning is just: if it ain't broke, don't fix it, so I would like
to know if there is something to fix. Is that so hard to comprehand?
If you like KDE, great. If you like Windows. Great. If you like working
with an abacus, more power to ya, but I just am genuinly interested in
why you update and that is all I am interested in.
Untill now one person has told me why and the reason was or could be a
security issue. That is a good reason, so if you are running 3.4, why
did you not stick with whatever you had before?
HansF
> WTF? I am not looking down on anybody using whatever. I just would like
> to know why people update their software even though I do not use it
> myself.
It's just the way you put the question. Specifically with the final
comment, the meaning of the question can be taken several ways. (My
first reaction on reading the comment was similar to that of others, but
then I spent some time looking at other responses you've made and
reevaluated.)
You wrote:
"Just curious, why do you need it? I am not running KDE, so I do not
care."
Perhaps you meant something like:
"What's the incentive to upgrade? Just curious, since I don't run KDE."
/Hans
houghi
> You wrote:
>
> "Just curious, why do you need it? I am not running KDE, so I do not
> care."
>
> Perhaps you meant something like:
>
> "What's the incentive to upgrade? Just curious, since I don't run KDE."
Ah, ok. That happens when the brain is faster then the fingers on the
keyboard. :-)
Mike Gratis
look into it in depth; but immediately noticed upon reboot that sound was
not working. This happened in the previous upgrade and was due to "arts"
being broken. Can anyone else confirm this?
--
Mike Gratis
Stephan
Year your are right, just build your own rpms from the source rpm of arts.
David W Studeman
If you upgrade via Yast using the supplementary rpms you are missing the QT
3.4 libraries as well as others. Hint: KDE versions match the QT versions
they run on. You guys are running kde 3.4 on qt 3.3, not good! Adrian
releases the FULL kde rpms to kde everytime there is a new version of kde
released. The rpms on the kde mirrors under ix386 number at 100 rpms at
238MB for all of them together. If you need a language pack, that is under
noarch. The best way is to download the full thing from KDE and do a rpm
-Fvh * in the folder that contains them. You may have to add a few packages
from your SuSE disc to meet a few new dependencies. I only had to add tiff
from the 9.2 disc. after you get it all installed, then use Yast from the
supplementary rpms to add any more recent changes plus updates to kde add
on rpms not part of kde itself.
--
Dave
Stephan
> Untill now one person has told me why and the reason was or could be a
> security issue. That is a good reason, so if you are running 3.4, why
> did you not stick with whatever you had before?
I think with every new KDE release came many little improvments, new
features (even if you don't see them at first).
Any Version of the KDE works fine, but there are many people who use the kde
day for day and they still find things to improve.
The People behind KDE did allways a good job so why don't test what the've
done to release a better KDE then the last one?
Kevin Nathan
David W Studeman <eat_your...@hormel.com> wrote:
> Then you were fooled, you also don't have the updated QT rpm's which
> is what every version of KDE is designed to take advantage of. You
> passed the KDE folder when you scrolled down to suse under
> ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux. SuSE is one of a very few distros that have the
> entire version on KDE mirrors when a new version is released. There
> are 100 rpm's that take up 238MB.
The supplementary tree has everything that's in the KDE tree, and then
some. The only difference I see, and you mentioned, is that Qt is
3.3.4-3 under supplementary and 3.3.4-8 under KDE. These RPMs are dated
15 Feb and I wonder why SUSE did not put the newer version in
supplementary -- everything else is the current version -- was there a
problem with the newer version, or just a problem putting the correct
files in the correct place?
> After each version of KDE is put
> there under stable, subsequent updates and addons are then retrieved
> from the supplementary folder.
While that sounds like the way to do it, *why* would the supplementary
then have an _older_ version of Qt, while having all the same current
versions as KDE stable? That's a little disconcerting.
> Since you are at the site, you need
> ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/kde/stable/3.4/SuSE/ix86/9.2 and then do
> rpm -Fvh * from the folder you downloaded to. You may need to add a
> few things to meet some new dependencies so have yast open to use the
> package manager if needed.
>
But if you use supplementary, you can update directly from within
YaST's Install & Remove Software without having to download everything
first. Of course, this presupposes a broadband connection or extreme
amounts of patience . . . :-)
I've been doing it this way for several versions and haven't encountered
any major problems; prior to this, I was downloading the new KDE RPMs
and usually spent a lot of time getting everything working.
Michael Soibelman
> David W Studeman wrote:
>> houghi wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Soibelman wrote:
>>>> If any of you, like me, need the newest KDE (3.4) here they are:
>>>
>>> Just curious, why do you need it? I am not running KDE, so I do not
>>> care.
>>>
>>
>> I don't believe anyone asked you if you are running KDE or if you care.
>> Nothing here is about you or directed at you despite what too many years
>> of psychotherapy may have taught you.
>
> <plonk>
Wow !! Posted a little notice yesterday for those who may be interested,
come back today, and look at all these threads........Whew!!
Here's another one of the many mirrors with all those rpm's:
ftp://ftp.oregonstate.edu/pub/kde/stable/3.4/SuSE/ix86/9.2
And if you went to the supplementary directory I first pointed out, and went
to all three directories, base, applications and development, you would see
that by sorting each folder by date and grabbing all the files marked March
16 you would indeed get all 238.2 MB of downloads....No need to go anywhere
else.......
As to WHY anyone would want to update............Many bug fixes and many
improvements.......Why not ??? If you like using less secure, older
versions that's your business.....No one said you had to update !!! I did
say "If any of you...." I didn't say "Go do this now". Newer version,
especially ones that are STABLE always have security enhancements as well
as bug fixes....It just seems logical....but than, you could always use
Gnome, enlightenment, etc.......It's a matter of personal tastes. Why do
people always start flaming when someone points out that there's something
new available ????
Can't we all just get along ???
P.S. If you go to KDE's web page you can read the numerous, enhancements,
improvements, fixes, etc....So there ARE numerous reasons why one
could/should do this !!! BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO !!! Choice is a good
thing !! Do as you please, please !!! :~)
David W Studeman
The supplementary folders do not have qt 3.4 but rather 3.3. look at the
dates as well.
--
Dave
Mike Gratis
I'm running Suse 9.1 Personal and building doesn't seem to be an option.
Last time this happened, someone built it right and then posted the RPM on
a link, which is how I fixed it. Prior to that, I just ran the old,
unbroken version of arts. ;-)
--
Mike Gratis
David W Studeman
Because supplementary is for updates to a given version, Adrian puts the
full version on KDE mirrors on every new release of KDE. KDE versions are
always the same version as QT they run on. If you are running 3.4 on qt 3.3
you have a problem.
--
Dave
Kevin Nathan
If that's so important, than why is this Qt RPM:
qt3-3.3.4-8.i586.rpm
contained in:
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/kde/stable/3.4/SuSE/ix86/9.2/
and
ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.4/SuSE/ix86/9.2/
while supplementary has:
qt3-3.3.4-3.i586.rpm
That sure doesn't look like a 3.3 to 3.4 difference to me, rather a
3.3.4-8 to 3.3.4-3 -- not a major difference, is it, and definitely not
matching the KDE version of 3.4.0?
Andreas Schallenberg
> ...
> where is the FAQ?...
> ...
Just go to the posting you original replied to
and click on that link....!
houghi
> I think with every new KDE release came many little improvments, new
> features (even if you don't see them at first).
I know I might seem a bore, but WICH ONES?
> Any Version of the KDE works fine, but there are many people who use the kde
> day for day and they still find things to improve.
In what way?
> The People behind KDE did allways a good job so why don't test what the've
> done to release a better KDE then the last one?
If I would be buing a new car, I could say that the ashtray is larger,
the fuel consumtion is less and that the color is greener. CAn you
please, please, please, pretty pleasy tell em what the diferencers are
YOU noticed and what it it worthwile for you to update?
If I want to know things are better, greater and faster, I will look at
the press realeases of Longhorn.
houghi
> And if you went to the supplementary directory I first pointed out, and went
> improvements.......Why not ???
What improvements have YOU noticed>
> If you like using less secure, older
> versions that's your business.....No one said you had to update !!! I did
> say "If any of you...." I didn't say "Go do this now". Newer version,
> especially ones that are STABLE always have security enhancements as well
> as bug fixes....It just seems logical....but than, you could always use
> Gnome, enlightenment, etc.......It's a matter of personal tastes. Why do
> people always start flaming when someone points out that there's something
> new available ????
I am not flaming, I just want to know why you think for yourself that an
upgrade is worthwile for you. More security? Great. What have you
noticed?
> Can't we all just get along ???
>
> P.S. If you go to KDE's web page you can read the numerous, enhancements,
> improvements, fixes, etc....So there ARE numerous reasons why one
> could/should do this !!! BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO !!! Choice is a good
> thing !! Do as you please, please !!! :~)
I am very aware of that. The downside is that all I see is people
quoting the KDE people. What I hear is people telling me that it is
better to Update, because KDE told them so.
Can you please tell me from your own experience why you like this
better? I will give a random example:
I updated from random-terminal-X.01 to random-terminal-Z-2.3, because
the new version allows the use of the letter Q.
BR
> Can you please tell me from your own experience why you like this
> better? I will give a random example: I updated from
> random-terminal-X.01 to random-terminal-Z-2.3, because the new version
> allows the use of the letter Q.
Stephan
> If I would be buing a new car, I could say that the ashtray is larger,
> the fuel consumtion is less and that the color is greener. CAn you
> please, please, please, pretty pleasy tell em what the diferencers are
> YOU noticed and what it it worthwile for you to update?
>
My english isn't so good, but i'll try to tell you my impressions.
First little thing is that you can switch off the login message (KDE is
Starting...) then you can easy take a file and move it from one desktop to
another without copy'&'paste only move the mouse to the top or bottom of
the screen and you are on the next screen. The login dialog shows the
messages from /var/log/messages. if heared the text to speech feature is
much improved.
Bugfix and improvements in kmail / konquerror and so on (don't know what but
read the wesites of kde show this:
http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.4-features.html
houghi
> My english isn't so good, but i'll try to tell you my impressions.
> First little thing is that you can switch off the login message (KDE is
> Starting...)
It si often these small things that are interesting. :-)
> then you can easy take a file and move it from one desktop to
> another without copy'&'paste only move the mouse to the top or bottom of
> the screen and you are on the next screen. The login dialog shows the
> messages from /var/log/messages. if heared the text to speech feature is
> much improved.
> Bugfix and improvements in kmail / konquerror and so on (don't know what but
> read the wesites of kde show this:
> http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.4-features.html
Thanks for your point of view.
houghi
Thanks. I am naturally still interested in other peoples experience. :-)
David W Studeman
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:40:54 -0800
> David W Studeman <eat_your...@hormel.com> wrote:
>
>> Because supplementary is for updates to a given version, Adrian puts
>> the full version on KDE mirrors on every new release of KDE. KDE
>> versions are always the same version as QT they run on. If you are
>> running 3.4 on qt 3.3 you have a problem.
>>
>
> If that's so important, than why is this Qt RPM:
>
> qt3-3.3.4-8.i586.rpm
>
> contained in:
>
> ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/kde/stable/3.4/SuSE/ix86/9.2/
> and
> ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.4/SuSE/ix86/9.2/
>
> while supplementary has:
>
> qt3-3.3.4-3.i586.rpm
>
> That sure doesn't look like a 3.3 to 3.4 difference to me, rather a
> 3.3.4-8 to 3.3.4-3 -- not a major difference, is it, and definitely not
> matching the KDE version of 3.4.0?
>
>
After looking closer, you're right. I misread the version so it really
isn't the exact version match as they were at one time in the past, maybe a
coincidence that they did match once? I wonder if QT 4 will have KDE4
running on it when it all comes out? I would like to make a Yast share on
an ftp server and put the rpm's from kde on it since they don't change
until the next realease of KDE but supplementary changes often as you know
since some kde rpms there are newer than the ones on the kde mirror from
just two days ago! this would allow you to add both as a yast source and
the newest rpms available would be downloaded and it would have less wasted
downloads this way. I'm not sure why the kde suse mirrors don't have a
directory.yast. I wonder if a local one could be made that points to a
mirror? Hmmmm.... In any case, I was wrong about QT versions. Sorry.
--
Dave
David W Studeman
I finally looked, not bad at all!
--
Dave
donk
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Any ideas what to do?
donk
Elden Fenison
> Thanks. I am naturally still interested in other peoples experience. :-)
I spent 20 years as a mainframe programmer. I think anyone who has spent any
amount of time programming would immediately know the answer to the
question "why upgrade".
Mainly, for every feature or bug fix they tell you about in a new release,
there are probably hundreds of other minor bugfixes and tweaks that they've
done that they never mention. I'd say about 98% of the time, a new version
of software is an improvement over the previous version, in ways that may
or may not be apparent.
Pardon me saying so, but I'd think this would be fairly obvious.
--
-=Elden=-
http://www.eldenf.com
Kevin Nathan
houghi <hou...@houghi.org.invalid> wrote:
> Thanks. I am naturally still interested in other peoples experience.
> :-)
*I* upgrade KDE to stay current for answering questions here and
elsewhere. I _prefer_ lighter-weight environments like icewm, wm2, xfce
and windowmaker but I can see the appeal of KDE. They are making
incredible strides and each version to which I've upgraded has always
been better, with fewer (and some different) bugs and so on.
Also, some applications I use tend to track with KDE so if I want to
upgrade _them_, I would need the latest version. While this is becoming
less of a problem (I'm switching to programs that don't require this
kind of integration, wherever possible), it's just easier to have the
newer KDE in those cases . . . :-)
Kevin Nathan
David W Studeman <eat_your...@hormel.com> wrote:
> After looking closer, you're right. I misread the version so it really
> isn't the exact version match as they were at one time in the past,
> maybe a coincidence that they did match once?
No, I don't think it was a coincidence. I'm not positive, but I'm pretty
sure that that really was a fact at one time.
> I wonder if QT 4 will
> have KDE4 running on it when it all comes out?
My guess would be 'yes' . . . :-)
> I would like to make a
> Yast share on an ftp server and put the rpm's from kde on it since
> they don't change until the next realease of KDE
Have you tried this, yet? I haven't but I'm sure there is some way to do
it. If I only had the time . . . ;-)
> but supplementary
> changes often as you know since some kde rpms there are newer than the
> ones on the kde mirror from just two days ago! this would allow you to
> add both as a yast source and the newest rpms available would be
> downloaded and it would have less wasted downloads this way.
This is more important in a production environment and should probably
be posed to SUSE/Novell as an easy setup option in YaST. Since I like to
stay current mostly to answer questions here and elsewhere, this is not
as important for me. I suspect this is probably true of most home/casual
users, as well.
> I'm not
> sure why the kde suse mirrors don't have a directory.yast. I wonder if
> a local one could be made that points to a mirror? Hmmmm....
If I had the time, I'd probably go through the YaST code to see what it
needs and then write a routine to generate one from a directory's
contents. Ah, if only . . .
> In any
> case, I was wrong about QT versions. Sorry.
No need to apologize, I just like being contrary (to my detriment, most
times)! :-D
BTW, I pointed my YaST source of installation to the supplementary area
last night and upgraded everything (even things I didn't *want* to
upgrade/add, but that's just one danger of starting this so late at
night) and it's all working great. KDE is *definitely* well-polished and
keeps improving!
Kevin Nathan
David W Studeman <eat_your...@hormel.com> wrote:
Thanks! I haven't had time to do much on it in the last two months. Hope
that changes, soon . . .
Michael Soibelman
> Stephan wrote:
>> My english isn't so good, but i'll try to tell you my impressions.
>> First little thing is that you can switch off the login message (KDE is
>> Starting...)
>
> It si often these small things that are interesting. :-)
>
>> then you can easy take a file and move it from one desktop to
>> another without copy'&'paste only move the mouse to the top or bottom of
>> the screen and you are on the next screen. The login dialog shows the
>> messages from /var/log/messages. if heared the text to speech feature is
>> much improved.
>> Bugfix and improvements in kmail / konquerror and so on (don't know what
>> but read the wesites of kde show this:
>> http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.4-features.html
>
>
> Thanks for your point of view.
Well, I don't spend a lot of time looking at all the improvements before
pointing out that there is a new improved version of ...something, but
usually, after a few days or weeks many improvements are found. So give me
a week or so. In the mean time, a few small improvements are already
apparent. Click on an item in the kde-menu, right click, and you can
easily add the item to desktop or the main panel. Right click on the
desktop to add a device link to the desktop. A new app, or one I just
noticed 'K Net Attach' allows you to connect to an FTP site, WebFolder,
Microsoft Windows network drivr, Secure shell, as well as create an icon
for the remote folder...... Another one, which may already have been
there, but which I just noticed is a kicker panel button that allows you to
change your desktop resolution easily- 'screen resize & rotate'. I think
this was here before but it didn't work properly for me...I use nvidia
card/driver. Now I can change resolution without problems. So, the answer
is, many small improvements to various kde apps which include bug fixes and
enhancements......Give it a try......If you want too ????
P.S. I created a text document in KWord, saved it in html format and was
able to listen to what I wrote with the speech to text application in
Konqueror. This is actually a nice dictation application if you need
that...
So many improvements, so little time......:~)
houghi
> *I* upgrade KDE to stay current for answering questions here and
> elsewhere. I _prefer_ lighter-weight environments like icewm, wm2, xfce
> and windowmaker but I can see the appeal of KDE. They are making
> incredible strides and each version to which I've upgraded has always
> been better, with fewer (and some different) bugs and so on.
>
> Also, some applications I use tend to track with KDE so if I want to
> upgrade _them_, I would need the latest version. While this is becoming
> less of a problem (I'm switching to programs that don't require this
> kind of integration, wherever possible), it's just easier to have the
> newer KDE in those cases . . . :-)
Now THAT is an aswer. Thanks. :-)
houghi
> houghi wrote:
>> Thanks. I am naturally still interested in other peoples experience. :-)
>
> I spent 20 years as a mainframe programmer. I think anyone who has spent any
> amount of time programming would immediately know the answer to the
> question "why upgrade".
Then you also know why NOT to upgrade. If it aint broke, don't fix it.
> Mainly, for every feature or bug fix they tell you about in a new release,
> there are probably hundreds of other minor bugfixes and tweaks that they've
> done that they never mention. I'd say about 98% of the time, a new version
> of software is an improvement over the previous version, in ways that may
> or may not be apparent.
>
> Pardon me saying so, but I'd think this would be fairly obvious.
I am still interested in what people personally think, not what the
company tells them to think or the industry tells them to do.
Some reasons I could think of upgrading are:
I like to fiddle with the latest
I am very curious and do it as a hobby
I really need feature X that was not there before
My current version broke down and I want to know if the newer version
will not
I like the pretty pictures that come with it
I think it is sexy to have the latest version of everything
It has a feature I am unable to implement and I would love to check it
out.
I ....
I guess you are somebody that says: I would have the latest version,
because it will have the latest and therefore the best code available.
Hey, I am not saying nobody should update, don't get me wrong. I am just
curious for the reason. Every reason you have is good as long as you
have thought it over and not just blindly update.
Kevin Nathan
houghi <hou...@houghi.org.invalid> wrote:
> Now THAT is an aswer. Thanks. :-)
You're welcome! Glad to be of assistance . . . ;-)
BR
> Another one, which may already have been there, but which I just noticed
> is a kicker panel button that allows you to change your desktop
> resolution easily- 'screen resize & rotate'. I think this was here
> before but it didn't work properly for me...I use nvidia card/driver.
You had to be using the xorg series.
Elden Fenison
> I guess you are somebody that says: I would have the latest version,
> because it will have the latest and therefore the best code available.
Exactly. Granted that stance requires a certain amount of faith in the
ability of the programmers involved. But if the programmers are worth their
salt, then I do believe it to be generally true.
--
-=Elden=-
http://www.eldenf.com
houghi
> Exactly. Granted that stance requires a certain amount of faith in the
> ability of the programmers involved. But if the programmers are worth their
> salt, then I do believe it to be generally true.
Luckily you are not running Windows. Win95 -> Win98 -> WinME :-)
I liked 95 first version. Never liked the A, B or C that came later with
IE and anything later was also not for me.
Stephan
> I liked 95 first version. Never liked the A, B or C that came later with
> IE and anything later was also not for me.
I wish i had seen Windows 1.0 (a Unix Gui to manage IBM Data at the work of
Bill Gates more easily)
John Scudder
of DOS and I used it with a Hercules monochrome display. More than
likely in the same box is a copy of "Win 2.0", "Win 3.0","Gem",
"Deskmate", and several copies of "GeoWorks". Ah, those were the days.