Everything just works in 11.2 and KDE 4
Vahis
of whining and crap about 11.2. In here and in several openSUSE forums.
So I thought I'd post a different post for a change:
I've installed 11.2 now in several environments.
In VMWare, 32 and 64 bit.
In Pentium III with 512 RAM.
In AMD Athlon 32 bit with 2 GB RAM.
In EeePC 900. There on the internal SSD disk as well as on the card
reader to dual boot.
I've installed via Netinstall isos and via Live USB sticks.
All installations with all defaults with KDE
Packman and Videolan added to all right after initial installations.
And of course the necessary players from them.
All connect to The Internet wired wireless and UMTS/Huawei.
All desktops are configured automagically correctly.
All play every video and audio file. Also Amarok.
All play Flash video from YouTube and stuff.
Java works in all of them, (JDownloader)
I even read about someone not being able to place icons on desktops so I
put them there to see if there's any truth in that. There wasn't.
So: It's the best distro ever, as usual.
None have ATI so I won't say a thing about that.
Vahis
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houghi
> I've installed via Netinstall isos and via Live USB sticks.
> All installations with all defaults with KDE
OK, I gave it another try. I installed default with the DVD. The only
change I did was the country and the partitioning. No other changes.
> Packman and Videolan added to all right after initial installations.
Yep, added them.
> And of course the necessary players from them.
Added mplayer, mplayerplugin and w32-codecs from Packman and libdvdcss
from Videolan.
So are there any other I should add?
> All connect to The Internet wired wireless and UMTS/Huawei.
Wired worked, Wireless is on another PC which I might try later
> All desktops are configured automagically correctly.
I asume it is correct as I have no idea how things should look in KDE
> All play every video and audio file.
When I do `mplayer file.avi` it works. When I do `gmplayer afile.avi` I
get an error "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo)
device."
So I do:
or I in `mplayer -vo help|awk '{print $1}'| \
grep -v MPlayer`;do gmplayer -vo $I cd1.avi;done
The one that worked was x11
> Also Amarok.
Nope, I open Amarok and I try to play a song that works with mplayer.
Nothing with Amarok. http://houghi.org/Fun/h2g2_sample.mp3 is what I
use as test.
> All play Flash video from YouTube and stuff.
http://houghi.org/movie/?movie=from_Nancy_France_to_Phalsbourg_France
Yep, works
> Java works in all of them, (JDownloader)
>
> I even read about someone not being able to place icons on desktops so I
> put them there to see if there's any truth in that. There wasn't.
>
> So: It's the best distro ever, as usual.
I still have that Amarok issue. It just won't work.
> None have ATI so I won't say a thing about that.
I first want Amarok to be working before I look any further and
configure NVidia, which takes some hacking because of what I want.
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houghi
> The businessworld is like prison and M$ made everybody their bitch.
houghi
>> And of course the necessary players from them.
>
> Added mplayer, mplayerplugin and w32-codecs from Packman and libdvdcss
> from Videolan.
>
> So are there any other I should add?
OK. Got it. WEhat you ALSO need to add is libxine1-codecs from packman.
Best do that with YaST as it will be giving telling that you might need
to change your sources for several files. Do that.
So in short:
1) Add packman and videolan
2) Add mplayer-plugin, w32-codecs, libxine1-codecs and libdvdcss
3) Accept change of source
4) Play with Amarok
Probaly there is a way to do this with zypper pretty fast as well.
Vahis
> Vahis wrote:
>> I've installed via Netinstall isos and via Live USB sticks.
>> All installations with all defaults with KDE
>
> OK, I gave it another try. I installed default with the DVD. The only
> change I did was the country and the partitioning. No other changes.
>
>> Packman and Videolan added to all right after initial installations.
>
> Yep, added them.
>
>> And of course the necessary players from them.
>
> Added mplayer, mplayerplugin and w32-codecs from Packman and libdvdcss
> from Videolan.
>
> So are there any other I should add?
I normally start with vlc-mozillaplugin. I need it for one certain
certain site.
It then installs a lot of stuff. I don't know for sure what is really
necessary and what isn't. I think libxine1 and libxine1-codecs are
important.
Then I install smplayer and upgrade evereything tp Packman versions.
>
>> All connect to The Internet wired wireless and UMTS/Huawei.
>
> Wired worked, Wireless is on another PC which I might try later
>
>> All desktops are configured automagically correctly.
>
> I asume it is correct as I have no idea how things should look in KDE
I guess it must be right, my cat is still alive.
>> All play every video and audio file.
>
> When I do `mplayer file.avi` it works. When I do `gmplayer afile.avi` I
> get an error "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo)
> device."
> So I do:
> or I in `mplayer -vo help|awk '{print $1}'| \
> grep -v MPlayer`;do gmplayer -vo $I cd1.avi;done
> The one that worked was x11
>
What works depends on files. Different setup or different player,
smplayer, vlc or kaffeine.
>> Also Amarok.
>
> Nope, I open Amarok and I try to play a song that works with mplayer.
> Nothing with Amarok. http://houghi.org/Fun/h2g2_sample.mp3 is what I
> use as test.
>
>> All play Flash video from YouTube and stuff.
>
> http://houghi.org/movie/?movie=from_Nancy_France_to_Phalsbourg_France
> Yep, works
>
>> Java works in all of them, (JDownloader)
>>
>> I even read about someone not being able to place icons on desktops so I
>> put them there to see if there's any truth in that. There wasn't.
>>
>> So: It's the best distro ever, as usual.
>
> I still have that Amarok issue. It just won't work.
>
>> None have ATI so I won't say a thing about that.
>
> I first want Amarok to be working before I look any further and
> configure NVidia, which takes some hacking because of what I want.
Here it works.
Vahis
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Vahis
>>> And of course the necessary players from them.
>>
>> Added mplayer, mplayerplugin and w32-codecs from Packman and libdvdcss
>> from Videolan.
>>
>> So are there any other I should add?
>
> OK. Got it. WEhat you ALSO need to add is libxine1-codecs from packman.
> Best do that with YaST as it will be giving telling that you might need
> to change your sources for several files. Do that.
>
> So in short:
> 1) Add packman and videolan
> 2) Add mplayer-plugin, w32-codecs, libxine1-codecs and libdvdcss
> 3) Accept change of source
> 4) Play with Amarok
It's not that hard, is it?
I don't quite get it why so many people have all the problems.
Remember the times of 10.0?
http://waxborg.servepics.com/English/Linux/susemultimedia.en.html
>
> Probaly there is a way to do this with zypper pretty fast as well.
One could put a script on-line to be run for everybody to do all
this with zypper in one go.
But it must be one of those script-men to do it, know anybody?
Vahis
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Taki
> I've been reading about a lot of different difficultie and a lot
> of whining and crap about 11.2. In here and in several openSUSE forums.
>
> So I thought I'd post a different post for a change:
>
> I've installed 11.2 now in several environments.
> In VMWare, 32 and 64 bit.
> In Pentium III with 512 RAM.
> In AMD Athlon 32 bit with 2 GB RAM.
> In EeePC 900. There on the internal SSD disk as well as on the card
> reader to dual boot.
>
> I've installed via Netinstall isos and via Live USB sticks.
> All installations with all defaults with KDE
>
I've done no such hairy things. Yeah, 11.2 is the best openSUSE, ever. I
have a simple setup: no wireless, for instance.
I've had two niggling problems up to now, solved to my satisfaction:
(1) configuring the BROTHER HL-2040printer
Before I had to download the driver and wrapper packages from the vendor
and use the CUPS. Now, all I have to do is select "HL-2060" in YaST).
(2) configuring the display, VIA Chrome chips
Before I had to use the xorg.conf from 10.3. This time, the display was
automagically set up. A good work by the developers. Now, my Samsung
2233 gives me 1680x1050. 1280x1024 was what I used to get (MEPIS 8.0.12
with KDE 3.xxx and EXT3 gives me the same).
I've the 1680x1050 display for 11.1 by manually installing the Chrome
driver closest in the version number to the one on my 11.2. I tried the
latest version and failed. It may actually work, but I'm not investing
more time on 11.1.
As for the KDE 4.xxx, à chacun son goût, eh? I like KDE4 (v. 4.3). But
then I'm not tied to any DTE/window manager. For the heavy-weight, I use
KDE4, for the middle-weight IceWm and *boxes(Flux/black/open), for the
light-weight wmii or awesome.
The most important is the applications I use. Everything else is merely
an eye candy. I flit from one window manger to another.
By the way, I used Schily's tools from an openSUSE 11.1 repo to burn the
32-bit DVD ISO with k3b:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/hennichodernich/openSUSE_11.1/
I've installed 11.2 (32-bit, 64-bit), MEPIS 8.0.12, and Slackware 13.0,
except that I cannot access Slackware. That distro still uses the LILO
and the ncurses-based installer. Wow! Memory flashbacks to the time when
dinosaurs roamed the earth.
houghi
> It's not that hard, is it?
> I don't quite get it why so many people have all the problems.
Well, in the past I just added w32-codec and not the libxine ones.
> Remember the times of 10.0?
> http://waxborg.servepics.com/English/Linux/susemultimedia.en.html
>>
>> Probaly there is a way to do this with zypper pretty fast as well.
>
> One could put a script on-line to be run for everybody to do all
> this with zypper in one go.
>
> But it must be one of those script-men to do it, know anybody?
The better thing now would be to make a one-click-install file and use
that.
Concerning XFCE, it starts to look good. A few minor things that I need
to work on, like random wallpapers (Somehow the crontab does not do what
it is supposed to do) and that will be mostly it.
I have already removed the icons from the desktop, activated autoraise
with the mouse and am now looking at removing the taskbar.
Oh and I have transparent windows if they are not used. Neat to see
those wallpapers. :-D
Strangely gmplayer now does weird stuff. I can't resize the screen in
such a way that I get fullscreen and no sound. Oh well.
After that I can start moving everything, setting up the servers and
what not.
So as far as I can see, it will be XFCE from now on. Will take a bit of
getting used to the configuration, but I can use many things I was
already using.
EOS
> Well, in the past I just added w32-codec and not the libxine ones.
one-click for mp3 and others:
http://opensuse-community.org/codecs-kde.ymp
http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats/11.2
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Running KDE 4.3.3 / openSUSE 11.2
EOS
> Probaly there is a way to do this with zypper pretty fast as well.
"zypper install ffmpeg flash-player libdvdcss libxine1-codecs w32codec-all lame"
EOS
> one-click for mp3 and others:
> http://opensuse-community.org/codecs-kde.ymp
>
> http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats/11.2
oh, and i found this
searching for you're amarok problem ;-)
http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Download:SUSE
Vahis
> In EeePC 900. There on the internal SSD disk as well as on the card
> reader to dual boot.
An addition to EeePC installation:
> All connect to The Internet wired wireless and UMTS/Huawei.
On EeePC I still installed vodafone-mobile-connect-card-driver-for-linux
Now I can also send and receive sms messages.
This manager takes care of Internet connection, browser and mail client,
contacts and the sms messages.
A really cool peace of software.
There's the repo:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/deltafox:/vodafone/openSUSE_11.2/
The rpm for 11.2 is not there yet. But there's a meta package that
installs all dependencies. After that the vmc can be installed via
1-click/11.0
Works just great :)
Vahis
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Vahis
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:23:45 +0000, Vahis wrote:
>
>> On 2009-11-25, Vahis <wax...@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> On EeePC I still installed vodafone-mobile-connect-card-driver-for-linux
>>
>> Now I can also send and receive sms messages. This manager takes care of
>> Internet connection, browser and mail client, contacts and the sms
>> messages.
>>
>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/deltafox:/vodafone/
> openSUSE_11.2/
>>
>> The rpm for 11.2 is not there yet. But there's a meta package that
>> installs all dependencies. After that the vmc can be installed via
>> 1-click/11.0
>
> I've just been reading the programmers comments that it can be used on
> other networks,
It works in any GPRS/3G/UMTS/HDSPA
> so, apart from letting you send sms (which I get free on
> my cell anyway)
I have seceral sim cards, one is in my laptop. So I can send them from
there. It's a lot easier that way.
In a particular case it has a also a special use.
I installed it (together with 11.2) to a person who uses
pre-paid 3G/UMTS data connection (no subscription).
Activating pre-paid codes that can be purchased as tickets from any
kiosk require sending the code as sms from that particular number.
This is the easiest way to do it, especially when this person is a
seasoned clickety-newb with no knowledge of any computing stuff.
There are buttons for "Internet" "SMS" "E-mail" and so on.
> any other big advantages over using the native suse
> connection?
What is native suse connection?
Vahis
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Vahis
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:23:45 +0000, Vahis wrote:
>
>> On EeePC I still installed vodafone-mobile-connect-card-driver-for-linux
>>
>> Now I can also send and receive sms messages. This manager takes care of
>> Internet connection, browser and mail client, contacts and the sms
>> messages.
>>
>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/deltafox:/vodafone/
> openSUSE_11.2/
>>
>> The rpm for 11.2 is not there yet. But there's a meta package that
>> installs all dependencies. After that the vmc can be installed via
>> 1-click/11.0
>
> I've just been reading the programmers comments that it can be used on
> other networks,
It works in any GPRS/3G/UMTS/HDSPA
> so, apart from letting you send sms (which I get free on
> my cell anyway)
I have several sim cards, one is in my laptop. So I can send them from
there. It's a lot easier that way.
In a particular case it has a also a special use.
I installed it (together with 11.2) to a person who uses
pre-paid 3G/UMTS data connection (no subscription).
Activating pre-paid codes that can be purchased as tickets from any
kiosk require sending the code as sms from that particular number.
This is the easiest way to do it, especially when this person is a
seasoned clickety-newb with no knowledge of any computing stuff.
There are buttons for "Internet" "SMS" "E-mail" and so on.
> any other big advantages over using the native suse
> connection?
What is native suse connection?
Vahis
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Vahis
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:04:56 +0000, Vahis wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> I have seceral sim cards, one is in my laptop. So I can send them from
>> there. It's a lot easier that way.
>>
> gmail and google calendar, and does me fine for sms (BTW, I'm glad that
> contrary to what my work colleagues say, I am *not* the last person on
> the planet to call 'texts' sms!)
I've got the E90.
On top of all the above it has a qwerty keyboard and ssh client PuTTY.
With that among others I manage the machines that I set up for people like
the one in this particular case.
>
>
>> In a particular case it has a also a special use. I installed it
>> (together with 11.2) to a person who uses pre-paid 3G/UMTS data
>> connection (no subscription).
>>
>> Activating pre-paid codes that can be purchased as tickets from any
>> kiosk require sending the code as sms from that particular number.
>>
>> This is the easiest way to do it, especially when this person is a
>> seasoned clickety-newb with no knowledge of any computing stuff.
>>
>
> Fair enough.
>
>> There are buttons for "Internet" "SMS" "E-mail" and so on.
>>
>>> any other big advantages over using the native suse connection?
>>
>> What is native suse connection?
>>
> 11.2: plug in dongle, click the phone icon that appears, enter *99# and
> the APN and it 'just works' - no extra programs / drivers / whatever.
> Actually easier than the telco's own software for XP. I was very
> impressed.
OK.
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Tosspot
> EOS wrote:
>
>> one-click for mp3 and others:
>> http://opensuse-community.org/codecs-kde.ymp
>>
>> http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats/11.2
>
>
> oh, and i found this
> searching for you're amarok problem ;-)
> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Download:SUSE
The one click didn't work for me and the
http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats/11.2
Is also wrong in that "Simply copy/paste the commands" doesn't work, it
needs the repo at the end. But, once that is corrected, it got Amarok
to play an MP3 for me :)
EOS
> The one click didn't work for me and the
maby you are using gnome?
then you have to use "gnome one-click codecs"
http://opensuse-community.org/codecs-gnome.ymp
>
> http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats/11.2
>
> Is also wrong in that "Simply copy/paste the commands" doesn't work, it
> needs the repo at the end. But, once that is corrected, it got Amarok
> to play an MP3 for me :)
it still is copy/paste :-p
Tosspot
> Tosspot wrote:
>
>> The one click didn't work for me and the
>
> maby you are using gnome?
> then you have to use "gnome one-click codecs"
> http://opensuse-community.org/codecs-gnome.ymp
Nah, too many unresolved dependecies. Sometime in the long and distant
past I went through Audio Hell, and now I just don't have the courage to
sit down and sort it all out.
>> http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats/11.2
>>
>> Is also wrong in that "Simply copy/paste the commands" doesn't work, it
>> needs the repo at the end. But, once that is corrected, it got Amarok
>> to play an MP3 for me :)
>
> it still is copy/paste :-p
Yeah, it did make me think I should have corrected it myself, but I was
too lazy.