FYI: Compiz Bug, Maximized Windows

[Tecknomage]

There is a reported bug for Compiz that seems to effect *multiple
distributions*.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1158267



My input was:

Also effects Ubuntu 13.04 running GNOME Fallback (aka GNOME Classic)
environment.

ANY window *already* maximized, the [Close][Minimized][Unmaximize]
buttons on window corners do not work.

In GNOME the all Context Menu options on Taskbar for the window do
work, [Close][Minimize][Maximize/Unmaximize].

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[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 30/04/2013 10:58 PM, Tecknomage wrote:
>
> There is a reported bug for Compiz that seems to effect *multiple
> distributions*.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1158267

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[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 30/04/2013 11:05 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 30/04/2013 10:58 PM, Tecknomage wrote:
>
> There is a reported bug for Compiz that seems to effect *multiple
> distributions*.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1158267

Why waste your time in gimmicks? Just use the default Unity, or maybe
LXDE/IceWin! :)

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[J G Miller]

On Tuesday, April 30th, 2013, at 23:06:27h +0800,

Mr Man-wai "toylet user" Chang wrote:

> Why waste your time in gimmicks?

Be fair now -- if software is available, then people are
at liberty to use it and report bugs.

> Just use the default Unity

Why use an interface designed for a cell phone on a desktop PC?

> or maybe LXDE/IceWin! :)

or FVMW, or pekwm, or Windowmaker, or Afterstep, ... or whatever
decadent Westerm Imperialist counter-revolutionary lackeys choose
these days.

Patriots choose Red Star OS!

<http://www.engadget.COM/2010/03/04/north-koreas-red-star-os-takes-the-open-out-of-open-source/>

[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 1/05/2013 12:45 AM, J G Miller wrote:
> Patriots choose Red Star OS!
> <http://www.engadget.COM/2010/03/04/north-koreas-red-star-os-takes-the-open-out-of-open-source/>
>

> The install disk apparently features a quote from Kim Jong-il about
the importance of an operating system "compatible with Korean
traditions," and the system requirements are a Pentium III 800MHz with
256MB RAM and 3GB hard drive space (North Korea's version of Minesweeper
must take up a lot of room). Of course, this bad boy has Firefox --
except here it's called My Country, and it will only connect you to
something called "My Country BBS," a web portal on North Korea's own
(restricted) version of the Internet. Where will the plucky penguin turn
up next? We don't know, but we bet it'll be one hell of a ride.

I guess they aren't that interesting in watching pictures and videos... :)

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[Tecknomage]

On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 23:06:27 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
<toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 30/04/2013 11:05 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> > On 30/04/2013 10:58 PM, Tecknomage wrote:
> >
> > There is a reported bug for Compiz that seems to effect *multiple
> > distributions*.
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1158267
>
> Why waste your time in gimmicks? Just use the default Unity, or maybe
> LXDE/IceWin! :)

The problem is NOT limited to GNOME, it effects all environments using
Compiz which includes Unity. Also distributions like SUSE.



By the way, Unity sucks (IMHO), as does the normal GNOME. That is why
I use GNOME Fallback (aka GNOME Classic).

[Martijn Lievaart]

On Wed, 01 May 2013 08:54:27 -0700, Tecknomage wrote:

> By the way, Unity sucks (IMHO), as does the normal GNOME. That is why I
> use GNOME Fallback (aka GNOME Classic).

When I first used Unity, some while ago, I found that it sucked even more
than the Gnome shell. Nowadays it is quite usable and actually my desktop
of choice. Now if they would put the menu's back on the Windows
themselves, it would be near perfect.

M4

[Jonathan N. Little]

sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu


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[Tecknomage]

By the way, there is a package that will put a classic (treed) menu
for Unity, see....


http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-get-classic-start-menu-with-unity-launcher-ubuntu/

(the above link should be a single line)

....it works.



Then there's...

http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/classicgnome

[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 1/05/2013 12:45 AM, J G Miller wrote:

> Be fair now -- if software is available, then people are
> at liberty to use it and report bugs.

Just a reminder for them. A good old Window$ 3.1 desktop is good enough
for launching programs... :)

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[J G Miller]

On Thursday, May 2nd, 2013, at 22:35:53h +0800,

Mr. Man-wai "on the toylet in the welfare office" Chang wrote:

> Just a reminder for them. A good old Window$ 3.1 desktop is good enough
> for launching programs... :)

You are talking about something completely different and outside
of the scope of the newsgroups to which you have posted.

So to put the context back ...

A good old twm desktop *is* still good enough for launching programs.

<http://xwinman.ORG/vtwm.php>

QUOTE

Nearly every window manager since has borrowed heavily from it,
either directly, or indirectly through other window managers

UNQUOTE

Its fundamental weakness compared to later window managers is
its lack of multiple workspaces.

[Proton]

On 05/01/2013 08:54 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 23:06:27 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
> <toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 30/04/2013 11:05 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>> On 30/04/2013 10:58 PM, Tecknomage wrote:
>>>
>>> There is a reported bug for Compiz that seems to effect *multiple
>>> distributions*.
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1158267
>>
>> Why waste your time in gimmicks? Just use the default Unity, or maybe
>> LXDE/IceWin! :)
>
> The problem is NOT limited to GNOME, it effects all environments using
> Compiz which includes Unity. Also distributions like SUSE.

It doesn't appear to affect Compiz when using Emerald window decorator
though.

I can't reproduce the problem described at your bugreport link. Nobody
there reports using Emerald either.

[J G Miller]

On Thursday, May 2nd, 2013, at 07:49:06h -0700, Proton observed:

> Nobody there reports using Emerald either.

All because

" Emerald theme manager is no longer available in
Ubuntu Software Center since 11.10 Oneiric "

[Proton]

But they're smarter than I am, and I'm using it with Mint 13 (12.04 Precise)

[J G Miller]

On Thursday, May 2nd, 2013, at 08:33:13h -0700, Proton suggested:

> But they're smarter than I am, and I'm using it with Mint 13 (12.04 Precise)

But you have proved yourself more capable at customizing and
ehancing, and not a follower of the "I am too lazy to install from source"
naysayers.

Presumably you have no problem using the Emerald decorator regardless
of chosen theme?

[Proton]

Overglossed is the only theme installed. With the default pixmap engine
selected, "Everything done with customizable pixmaps!" Could be a major
factor.

Turn off the gaudy glow around windows, and Overglossed looks sharp.

[FigureItOut]

On Thu, 02 May 2013 22:35:53 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
<toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 1/05/2013 12:45 AM, J G Miller wrote:
>> Be fair now -- if software is available, then people are
>> at liberty to use it and report bugs.
>
>Just a reminder for them. A good old Window$ 3.1 desktop is good enough
>for launching programs... :)

I had an old fractal program that ran a "Geos" "OS". I think it was
just a GUI front end for the app. It was a great early fractal
generation app though. "FracTools".

Now, I can't get it to run at any decent resolution, as it doesn't know
how to hit modern cards. I have to fire up an old machine. Maybe I can
get a remote process thing going and calculate the pixels on one machine
but display them on another.

It did every pixel. Not like today's crap fractal software, which does
bit blts and wont go deep or get highly resolved.

Or maybe I just need to find the right fractal gen app.

[Malcolm]

Hi
Have you seen this one?
http://sites.google.com/site/mandelbulber/home
http://software.opensuse.org/package/mandelbulber

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[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 2/05/2013 10:41 PM, J G Miller wrote:
>> Just a reminder for them. A good old Window$ 3.1 desktop is good enough
>> for launching programs... :)

> So to put the context back ...
> A good old twm desktop *is* still good enough for launching programs.
> <http://xwinman.ORG/vtwm.php>

> Its fundamental weakness compared to later window managers is
> its lack of multiple workspaces.

Thanks.

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[Martijn Lievaart]

On Wed, 01 May 2013 18:20:50 -0400, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

> Martijn Lievaart wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 May 2013 08:54:27 -0700, Tecknomage wrote:
>>
>>> By the way, Unity sucks (IMHO), as does the normal GNOME. That is why
>>> I use GNOME Fallback (aka GNOME Classic).
>>
>> When I first used Unity, some while ago, I found that it sucked even
>> more than the Gnome shell. Nowadays it is quite usable and actually my
>> desktop of choice. Now if they would put the menu's back on the Windows
>> themselves, it would be near perfect.
>
> sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu

Thanks all, but just upgraded to 13.04 and off course that again breaks
Unity on multiple displays. Being forced back to fallback mode reminded
me exactly why Unity is a good idea. It just works (for me). I may try
Cairo Dock next.

Sometimes FOSS sucks greatly. But I have the source, so it's all my own
fault....

M4

[acp...@gmail.com]

This happens when you use the Ambiance theme alongwith gnome classic.

Try the Mediterranean theme, watch the bug disappear magically.

It seems there is some issues in Compiz or the Ambiance theme (at least the themes that come from the Ubuntu Theme) that causes it.

This is a frustrating issue really.

I had to use the Mediterranean theme to get around it.

or else, you can download the latest Compiz Code which has a fix, compile it yourself/create a deb and install it. There are some instructions in some forums for compiling the same. Google for the same.