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James Rome

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May 3, 2002, 11:43:14 AM5/3/02
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My Dell Dimension 8100 has an OEM Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card in it.
When I installed 8.0, it was not recognized as such.

The OS thought it was a Crystal Clear (I think, I'm in win2k right now...).
Is there a Linux driver that supports my card better? For example, kmix shows
no tone controls.

a user

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May 3, 2002, 4:33:04 PM5/3/02
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It is a Crystal chipset; linux should see is as CS46xx card. You probably
have to "reconfigure" the kernel to add the CS46xx module support as all
kernels I've seen only have a Soundblaster card as the default module.

Also you may have to add a modprobe for the sound module as X11 seems to
see the module sometimes and sometimes not depending on the X11 version;
have enabled/removed the modprobe too many times and will leave it on
always now.

David W. Studeman

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May 4, 2002, 12:21:38 PM5/4/02
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No, there is no default sound module in the kernel, for that matter,
almost no modules are embedded in the kernel these days nor should they
be. The kernel has matured to the point that dynamic loading of modules
from /lib/modules is the defacto standard and this way, only modules
that are needed are loaded, you can usually add drivers or update
drivers on the fly to a running kernel and modprobe it to get it
running. If you compile modules and add them, the only requirement is
that your kernel source is the same version as the running kernel or it
may not work if you are compiling the modules. You should never have to
recompile a kernel to add drivers. BTW, the cs46xx itself isn't where
you get tone controls, it has to do with the module that drives the
codec chip whether it be Sigmatel or whoever. I use the SantaCruz and it
is a basic setup and have not seen the tone control hacks or tools like
some cards. The only thing I can say for this card is it sounds good but
Linux control as far as tone controls, versa jack and such are plain
vanilla. I'm not sure why more interest isn't shown in a card that is
topnotch quality with High Resolution Dacs, 5.1 capability, cd digital
in and all, and costs less than $50.00 US. It seems like the SBlive and
Audigy have the most tools are getting the biggest support and hacks in
the Community. I had fiber optic working in Linux on a Platinum 5.1.
Nobody seems to care about the Santa Cruz and we are merely using the
modules for the crystal chipset itself. Very bland indeed!

Dave

a user

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May 4, 2002, 3:29:07 PM5/4/02
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In article <3CD40A92...@hormel.com>, David W. Studeman wrote:
> a user wrote:
>> In article <3CD2B012...@hotmail.com>, James Rome wrote:
>>......
>>>no tone controls.
>>>......
> ......

> No, there is no default sound module in the kernel, for that matter,
> almost no modules are embedded in the kernel these days nor should they
> be. The kernel has matured to the point that dynamic loading of modules
> from /lib/modules is the defacto standard and this way, only modules
> that are needed are loaded, you can usually add drivers or update
> drivers on the fly to a running kernel and modprobe it to get it
> running. If you compile modules and add them, the only requirement is
> that your kernel source is the same version as the running kernel or it
> may not work if you are compiling the modules. You should never have to
> recompile a kernel to add drivers. BTW, the cs46xx itself isn't where
> you get tone controls, it has to do with the module that drives the
> codec chip whether it be Sigmatel or whoever. I use the SantaCruz and it
> is a basic setup and have not seen the tone control hacks or tools like
> some cards. The only thing I can say for this card is it sounds good but
> Linux control as far as tone controls, versa jack and such are plain
> vanilla. I'm not sure why more interest isn't shown in a card that is
> topnotch quality with High Resolution Dacs, 5.1 capability, cd digital
> in and all, and costs less than $50.00 US. It seems like the SBlive and
> Audigy have the most tools are getting the biggest support and hacks in
> the Community. I had fiber optic working in Linux on a Platinum 5.1.
> Nobody seems to care about the Santa Cruz and we are merely using the
> modules for the crystal chipset itself. Very bland indeed!
>
>
It's nice to know one doesn't have to "config" for different modules;
but then one would have to manually add the alias to the modules.conf?

I've seen sound defaults on each version of 2.4.x retrieved from
www.kernel.org and have "unselected" them.

The only time I've used the soundcard is with music and am using
the musicmatch jukebox app available at either downloads.com or
tucows (which incorrectly name the ver as 1.43 instead of 1.00043).
Musicmatch for linux has an "equalizer" which can be viewable/settable
from the dropdown menu.

Have read some have problems with running musicmatch but they "followed"
instructions and ran the link (as in /usr/local/bin/mmjb) instead of
running the "real" executable at where ever it was installed.

Dave

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May 5, 2002, 3:59:28 AM5/5/02
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I have this link from Turtle Beach for an "unofficial" Linux driver. Haven't
installed it yet myself so I don't know how much it opens up, Versa Jack,
tone controls, etc.
http://www.cirrus.com/Drivers/audiodrv/

This is such a great sounding card I hope someone comes up with a full 5.1
w/equalizer driver soon.

Dave

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David W. Studeman

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May 5, 2002, 5:08:36 AM5/5/02
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>>
> It's nice to know one doesn't have to "config" for different modules;
> but then one would have to manually add the alias to the modules.conf?
>
> I've seen sound defaults on each version of 2.4.x retrieved from
> www.kernel.org and have "unselected" them.
>
> The only time I've used the soundcard is with music and am using
> the musicmatch jukebox app available at either downloads.com or
> tucows (which incorrectly name the ver as 1.43 instead of 1.00043).
> Musicmatch for linux has an "equalizer" which can be viewable/settable
> from the dropdown menu.
>
> Have read some have problems with running musicmatch but they "followed"
> instructions and ran the link (as in /usr/local/bin/mmjb) instead of
> running the "real" executable at where ever it was installed.

Yes on the alias, if you don't want it, omit it and it won't load. I'm
looking into an external solution that communicates via usb but has it's
own built in power where it only uses the usb to transmit and receive a
digital stream. I know the Extigy will work on its own without a pc but
communicates through usb to give it a clean digital stream from whatever
you are running in your PC. Trouble is, don't know if they follow the usb
spec as they talk about some sort of enhancement but very vaguely.
Everything about it is vague. Marketing is not really playing up the fact
that this is basically a small 5.1 channel preamp with 24 bit dacs that
also happens to plug into a usb port for pc input. Has fiber and rca
spdif's as well. The main thing is to get all the audio processing outside
the electrically noisy pc box. I may plunk the $150.00 for one and in a
worse case, one can make a usb to spdif adapter as there are schematics on
the web and use the rca input. I'm sure the usb will work and if not, there
will be a hack soon, like an add on to emu tools or something. Guillemot
has a killer card based on the same Crystal CS4630 but has a minimal pci
card with very little chips on the pci board and has a big connector going
to an external box. It would appear that the pci is just used to
communicate but all the work is done externally. It looked like a serious
contender for sonic bliss. I hate to say it but gadgets are always cool
even if you don't need them. Conspicuos consumption!


Dave

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