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Svein Hamnes Aaberge

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Nov 23, 2003, 6:46:54 AM11/23/03
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It seems from what I am reading on NVIDIa's pages that the driver should
support 24-bit color. When I enter YAST/Sax2 I get 3-D acceleration to
work if I choose 16-bit color. If I choose 24-bit collor the 3D gets
disabled (even though I choosed to be enabled). What's the reason for tis
and is it possible to use 24-bit color and 3D-acceleration. I have tried
on 3 computers with different graphic cards and it's the same for all of
them. All of the cards are new enough to support the resolution and color
I choose.
Thanks for your replies.
Svein

Hawkeye

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Nov 23, 2003, 7:19:04 AM11/23/03
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Have the same situation here

Stephanie

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Nov 23, 2003, 7:42:35 AM11/23/03
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:19:04 -0500, Hawkeye wrote:

> Have the same situation here

I am having the same problem.

Steph
Kingston, Ontario

Big Daddy

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Nov 23, 2003, 10:08:53 AM11/23/03
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on Sun November 23 2003 6:46 am, Svein Hamnes Aaberge decided to enlighten
us with:

This is goofy, but it really is working under 24bit mode, despite the claims
to the contrary. Try actually choosing to disable it and running 'glxgears'
and then enabling it (despite claims contrary) and running it. Your
framerate is far higher, and evidence that hardware acceleration is working
and enabled. You could also try running Tux Racer or a GL screensaver. If
there is no jerking in the animation, you've got hardware 3D.

Hawkeye

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Nov 23, 2003, 11:04:49 AM11/23/03
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>This is goofy, but it really is working under 24bit mode, despite the claims
>to the contrary. Try actually choosing to disable it and running 'glxgears'
>and then enabling it (despite claims contrary) and running it. Your
>framerate is far higher, and evidence that hardware acceleration is working
>and enabled. You could also try running Tux Racer or a GL screensaver. If
>there is no jerking in the animation, you've got hardware 3D.

I just tried this and found that at 16bit no 3D my frame rate was 73

At 24bit 3D not indicating on but was selected frame rate is 63

So that blows the higher FR theory out of the water

Also saw no difference in GL screen savers themselves

I wanted to try this glxgears and Tux Racer but haven't a clue what
those are.

Big Daddy

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Nov 23, 2003, 11:15:35 AM11/23/03
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on Sun November 23 2003 11:04 am, Hawkeye decided to enlighten us with:

Do you have an nVidia card and the actual nVidia (not SuSE provided) drivers
installed? The SuSE downloaded driver through YaST does not have 3D
acceleration. You must get the ones from nVidia's site.

Hawkeye

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Nov 23, 2003, 11:54:13 AM11/23/03
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>Do you have an nVidia card and the actual nVidia (not SuSE provided) drivers
>installed? The SuSE downloaded driver through YaST does not have 3D
>acceleration. You must get the ones from nVidia's site.

Correct on the Yast nvidia install. Does this have to be removed
prior to installing the one from nvidia site?

Svein Hamnes Aaberge

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Nov 23, 2003, 2:13:42 PM11/23/03
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:08:53 -0500, Big Daddy wrote:


>
> This is goofy, but it really is working under 24bit mode, despite the claims
> to the contrary. Try actually choosing to disable it and running 'glxgears'
> and then enabling it (despite claims contrary) and running it.

The strange thing was that it was impossible to disable it in Yast, then I
got a message that NVIDIA drivers had 3D-acceleration and if I didn't want
it I had to deinstall the driver.


>Your
> framerate is far higher, and evidence that hardware acceleration is working
> and enabled. You could also try running Tux Racer or a GL screensaver. If
> there is no jerking in the animation, you've got hardware 3D.

It's true, I could use Tuxracer with 24-bit color.
The strange thing was the messages under glxgears:
On 16-bit color I got around 950.000FPS
On 24-bit color I got around 600.000FPS
The wheel went very slow and a little bit jerky on 24-bit.
What does this mean and is there some other settings I should change?
(Hz for the monitor i.e.)
Thank you for your reply.
Svein.

baskitcaise

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Nov 23, 2003, 5:57:20 PM11/23/03
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Big Daddy wrote:

> Do you have an nVidia card and the actual nVidia (not SuSE provided) drivers
> installed? The SuSE downloaded driver through YaST does not have 3D
> acceleration. You must get the ones from nVidia's site.

I beg to differ here but I use the Yast installed driver from Suse for my
Gforce FX5600 and it works perfect with 3D, ET, UT2003, glxears, 3Ddiag all
have 3D, I have just finished a 3 hour session on ET, and my 3Ddiag gives:-


barkit@basket:~> 3Ddiag
3Ddiag version 0.703
Verifying 3D configuration:
Using 3dinfo
************************************************************

Verifying 3D configuration based on XFree86 4 for 3D board
"nVidia Corporation 0x0312 (10de@0312)":


Verifying driver installation:
nvidia ... done.

Test for correct XFree86 version ... done.

Tests for XFree86 configuration:
Config File /etc/X11/XF86Config ... done.
Driver ... done.
Color Depth ... done.
Extensions ... done.
Options ... done.


Checking GL/GLU/glut runtime configuration:
GL/GLU ... done (package XFree86-Mesa)
glut ... done (package mesaglut)
barkit@basket:~>


<<<---snip--->>>

glxgears:-

barkit@basket:~> glxgears
8436 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1687.200 FPS
9315 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1863.000 FPS
9417 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1883.400 FPS
9328 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1865.600 FPS
9401 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1880.200 FPS
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
barkit@basket:~>

<<<---snip--->>>

All done with antialias set at 2, anisotropic at 2, sideband enabled, and fast
writes.

Readings would be a bit higher as I have some other stuff running at the same
time here.

--
Mark
Twixt hill and high water.
N.Wales, UK.
Email is spam trap try baskitcaise at gmx dot co dot uk

Big Daddy

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Nov 23, 2003, 11:21:04 PM11/23/03
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on Sun November 23 2003 2:13 pm, Svein Hamnes Aaberge decided to enlighten
us with:

> On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:08:53 -0500, Big Daddy wrote:

How do you mean the wheel went slow? 600 FPS is fast animation. The glxgears
animation is always seemingly jerky. There's a studder in the animation.

Big Daddy

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Nov 23, 2003, 11:21:48 PM11/23/03
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on Sun November 23 2003 11:54 am, Hawkeye decided to enlighten us with:

No, just download the ones from nVidia't site and follow the instructions.
You must get out of X completely and install from the commandline.

Hawkeye

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Nov 24, 2003, 12:28:19 AM11/24/03
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This will be my first ever attempt at this. I cut and pasted the
following instructions someone else relieved in another post regarding
this subject and I assume this is what I will need to do.


I will assume you have logged into KDE:
The way I usually install these drivers is to press ctrl, alt and F3
at the
same time. You should get a black screen with a prompt on it. Type
root and
press the return (enter) button. Enter the root password and press
return.
Now type:
/etc/init.d/xdm stop
This stops the X-window system under Suse. You should check that xdm
is in
that directory. If you are comming from windows, the directories are
separted with / and not with \ under linux.
Press ctrl, alt and F3 again to get your screen back where you were
working.
Now sou can type
sh NVIDIA-Linux--x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run

As far as I remember there are a couple of questions to answer that
may need
scrolling down the page.
Now restart the X-windows with
/etc/init.d/xdm start
And a login screen should appear.

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Svein Hamnes Aaberge

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Nov 24, 2003, 5:16:47 PM11/24/03
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:21:04 -0500, Big Daddy wrote:


>> The strange thing was the messages under glxgears:
>> On 16-bit color I got around 950.000FPS
>> On 24-bit color I got around 600.000FPS
>> The wheel went very slow and a little bit jerky on 24-bit.
>> What does this mean and is there some other settings I should change?
>> (Hz for the monitor i.e.)
>
> How do you mean the wheel went slow? 600 FPS is fast animation. The glxgears
> animation is always seemingly jerky. There's a studder in the animation.

Well to me it seemed that the animation was going very slow compared with
the animation with 16-bit color.
I guess what you are trying to tell is that I can use my settings with
24-bit color?

Svein

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