FYI: Firefox 3.6.20 is released
Douglas Mayne
point upgrade to 3.6.20. Even though there is no official patch yet in
the Slackware 13.1 patches directory, you can easily create your own
using the files here:
<smirror>://slackware/slackware-13.1/patches/source/mozilla-firefox/
And replace the relenent files with Mozilla's updated package here:
<mmirror>://mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.6.17/linux-i686/en-US/
Notes:
1. smirror is a slackware distribution mirror
2. mmirror is a mozilla.org mirror
3. The "relevent files mentioned mean that the 3.6.19 files should be
deleted, and the 3.6.20 files should be added.
4. With the files in place run the slackbuild; upgrade the package; etc.
I mention this because I like to keep the browser as up to date as
possible. The browser is like the "point man" and needs to have the best
protection possible. No need to have extra holes in the armor. YMMV.
I verified that this approach also works on 13.37. I am running the 3.6.x
branch for a while longer.
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Douglas Mayne
Aragorn
Mayne enlightened humanity with the following words...:
> [...] I mention this because I like to keep the browser as up to date
> as possible. The browser is like the "point man" and needs to have the
> best protection possible. No need to have extra holes in the armor.
> YMMV. [...]
In that case, you'd be probably very happy to hear that Mozilla has just
released Firefox 6.0 - yes, 6.0!
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/new/
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Aragorn
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)
Douglas Mayne
There is a certain dissatisfaction of late with version numbering
systems. The linux kernel jumped from 2.6.x to 3.x as a
/* birthday present */. Firefox switched systems when it jumped from
3.6.x to 4.x. Then incremented to 5.x and 6.x. Mozilla is considering
doing away with version numbers by arguing that the end user only cares
that he is running the /* latest and greatest */. There is some truth to
that, but what if the new version does things to the interface which are
not ideal (opinion based only). Lucky for me, that at least for a while
bug fixes will be released on Firefox's 2.6.x tree. It's not quite as bad
as it looks, it just looks that way due to the change in versioning
schemes.
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Douglas Mayne
jo...@wexfordpress.com
It is not true that everyone wants the latest release. After trying
version 4.x I reloaded 3.6 off an older Slackware install disk. I
just upgraded 3.6.20 but the interface remains the same. 4.0 had a
less useful interface but thankfully the 3.6 series continues to be
available.
Firefox sent me a screen offering to update to 3.6.20. After I made
sure that no one had messed with the interface I
accepted the upgrade.
Dropping versioning numbers is a miserable move.
John C.
Douglas Mayne
<snip>
>
> It is not true that everyone wants the latest release. After trying
> version 4.x I reloaded 3.6 off an older Slackware install disk. I just
> upgraded 3.6.20 but the interface remains the same. 4.0 had a less
> useful interface but thankfully the 3.6 series continues to be
> available.
>
> Firefox sent me a screen offering to update to 3.6.20. After I made sure
> that no one had messed with the interface I accepted the upgrade.
>
> Dropping versioning numbers is a miserable move.
>
> John C.
>
I am not sure "accepting the offer" works, especially on slackware. It's
more automatic on Windows, mac, and perhaps other gnu/linux
distributions. On slackware it is best to manage the packages using slack
packages, but YMMV.
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Douglas Mayne
Miro
Wow. It really seems obvious now that Mozilla is just throwing out
arbitrary version numbers to entertain the idea that users are getting
something more advanced. If they were being honest (by honest I mean
using regular version numbering conventions) they'd probably be still
on 3.*.
Eef Hartman
>> In that case, you'd be probably very happy to hear that Mozilla has just
>> released Firefox 6.0 - yes, 6.0!
7.0 beta 1 is there already too!
> Wow. It really seems obvious now that Mozilla is just throwing out
> arbitrary version numbers to entertain the idea that users are getting
> something more advanced. If they were being honest (by honest I mean
> using regular version numbering conventions) they'd probably be still
> on 3.*.
No, 4.0 was enough of a rewrite to deserve its new major version,
but the ones after that are essentially stil 4.x versions (although
5.0 and 6.0 DO break the Novell moonlight (=silverlight clone) plugin,
that one stopped working after 4.0.1
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Loki Harfagr
> Miro <nickberge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In that case, you'd be probably very happy to hear that Mozilla has
>>> just released Firefox 6.0 - yes, 6.0!
>
> 7.0 beta 1 is there already too!
>
>> Wow. It really seems obvious now that Mozilla is just throwing out
>> arbitrary version numbers to entertain the idea that users are getting
>> something more advanced. If they were being honest (by honest I mean
>> using regular version numbering conventions) they'd probably be still
>> on 3.*.
>
> No, 4.0 was enough of a rewrite to deserve its new major version, but
> the ones after that are essentially stil 4.x versions
Agreed, one more syptom that these version number tumbling is
just a strutter for fresh suckers (probably just awaken at the noise
from behind the gates where it reads 'android inside')
> (although 5.0 and
> 6.0 DO break the Novell moonlight (=silverlight clone) plugin, that one
> stopped working after 4.0.1
that's a bit reverse, I'd say that the moonlight XPI packager didn't
imagine that since they were porting some part from the evil side the
target would be contaminated that fast and would swindle the numbers,
then they just put a sensible number in the version ceiling:
I just replaced 4 by 14 in the install.rdf:
<em:maxVersion>14.0.*</em:maxVersion>
rezipped the xpi, installed it and it works just fine
(well, as far I you can say that for a SL infected place ;D)
now, I wonder if setting it up to 14 was bold enough a move...
Douglas Mayne
> Just a (semi-cloned) note to say that I noticed that Firefox has a
> recent point upgrade to 3.6.20. Even though there is no official patch
> yet in the Slackware 13.1 patches directory, you can easily create your
> own using the files here:
>
<snip>
>
FYI: 3.6.21 is released. Use the same drill to update.
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Douglas Mayne
Eef Hartman
> FYI: 3.6.21 is released. Use the same drill to update.
AND thunderbird 3.1.13 and seamonkey 2.3.2 (the last is already
an "6.0" compatible version, the seamonkey team doesn't maintain
the older 2.0 thru 2.2 versions anymore:
seamonkey 2.0.x corresponds to firefox 3.6.y,
2.1 with 4.0 and 2.2 with 5.0
but as I said, all of those are "dead").
Eef Hartman
> FYI: 3.6.21 is released. Use the same drill to update.
And has been updated to 3.6.22 already!
Also 6.0.2 is out too.
For thunderbird, the newest releases are (still) 3.1.13 and 6.0.1
For both, the 7.0 release is still in beta
Douglas Mayne
> Douglas Mayne <no...@invalid.com> wrote:
>> FYI: 3.6.21 is released. Use the same drill to update.
>
> And has been updated to 3.6.22 already! Also 6.0.2 is out too.
>
> For thunderbird, the newest releases are (still) 3.1.13 and 6.0.1
>
> For both, the 7.0 release is still in beta
>
Re : And has been updated to 3.6.22 already!
at time : 2011-09-05 14:05 GMT
I still only see Firefox 3.6.21 on the firefox main servers and mirrors.
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Douglas Mayne
Eef Hartman
> I still only see Firefox 3.6.21 on the firefox main servers and mirrors.
I look at their ftp server:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/3.6.22
Under the "pub" directory you can find all of their products and
versions, like
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/7.0b1
(that is: 7.0 beta 1).
I mostly look to see if the "releases" dir for each product has
been updated recently.
Douglas Mayne
> Douglas Mayne <no...@invalid.com> wrote:
>> I still only see Firefox 3.6.21 on the firefox main servers and
>> mirrors.
>
> I look at their ftp server:
> ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/3.6.22
>
> Under the "pub" directory you can find all of their products and
> versions, like
> ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/7.0b1 (that is: 7.0 beta
> 1).
>
> I mostly look to see if the "releases" dir for each product has been
> updated recently.
>
Ok, thanks, got it!
Screenshot of it running on my netbook:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/3pdpvrn
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Douglas Mayne
Douglas Mayne
> recent point upgrade to 3.6.20. Even though there is no official patch
> yet in the Slackware 13.1 patches directory, you can easily create your
> own using the files here:
>
>
FYI: Firefox 3.6.23 is released. Use the same drill to update.
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Douglas Mayne
Douglas Mayne
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Douglas Mayne
Manuel Reimer
still supported so why are Firefox updates ignored?
Yours
Manuel
Eef Hartman
> FYI: Firefox 3.6.24 is released. Use the same drill to update.
(Pat is a little behind on his Mozilla updates, especially for the
older 13.? releases).
Chris Willing
<E.J.M....@tudelft.nl> wrote:
> Douglas Mayne <no...@invalid.com> wrote:
>> FYI: Firefox 3.6.24 is released. Use the same drill to update.
>
> And Thunderbird 3.1.16 also is out there, the same applies for that
> (Pat is a little behind on his Mozilla updates, especially for the
> older 13.? releases).
difficult to build the newer versions on the older Slackwares. For instance
building the latest 13.37 version of firefox on a 13.1 machine fails
because the the version of cairo on 13.1 isn't new enough. You could build
and install the correct cairo version and continue but there will most
likely be other build dependencies that are too old. You could just
keep on building/installing all the dependencies until firefox builds
but you could also just upgrade to 13.37 and be done with it.
chris
Eef Hartman
> I suspect they'll become more out of date since its becoming more
> difficult to build the newer versions on the older Slackwares.
they're not reBUILD but only re-packaged (the binary packages from
mozilla do work straightaway).
We don't expext 8.0 (or later) versions, but the 3.*.* ones are still
supported and released by mozilla, so the Slackware 13.x releases can
still be updated TO them.
OK, it _is_ different for the 64-bit builds!
Eef Hartman
> At least for the firefox 3.6.* and thunderbird 3.1.* 32-bit versions:
> they're not reBUILD but only re-packaged (the binary packages from
> mozilla do work straightaway).
> We don't expext 8.0 (or later) versions, but the 3.*.* ones are still
> supported and released by mozilla, so the Slackware 13.x releases can
> still be updated TO them.
3.1.6 (thunderbird) packages, so the whole discussion has become
rather academic. Ok, Firefox 3.6 is only available for 13.?
(13.37 got 8.0.1), but Thunderbird 13.1 is there for all 13.*
releases (no 8.0 upgrades there yet).
Eef Hartman
> In the meanwhile Pat has released the newest 3.6.24 (firefox) and
> 3.1.6 (thunderbird) packages,
packages, so again - until Pat brings out his upgrades - you will
have to install them by hand (see earlier in this thread).
And - of course - for 13.37 the 9.0 releases are there too.
Douglas Mayne
> Eef Hartman <E.J.M....@tudelft.nl> wrote:
>> In the meanwhile Pat has released the newest 3.6.24 (firefox) and 3.1.6
>> (thunderbird) packages,
>
> Mozilla has now released the firefox-3.6.25 and thunderbird-3.1.17
> packages, so again - until Pat brings out his upgrades - you will have
> to install them by hand (see earlier in this thread).
>
> And - of course - for 13.37 the 9.0 releases are there too.
>
were moved around, but I am getting used to that. Also, the browser tabs
can be moved to their previous position, because the new default with
tabs on top is not what I prefer.
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Douglas Mayne
Douglas Mayne
<snip>
>
As noted here on aols by Michael Black, the changelogs for the various versions
of Slackware have moved! Yay! The updates includes firefox upgrades as follows:
Slackware 13.1
- patches/packages/mozilla-firefox-3.6.26-i486-1_slack13.1.txz
- patches/packages/mozilla-thunderbird-3.1.18-i486-1_slack13.1.txz
Slackware 13.37
- patches/packages/mozilla-firefox-10.0-i486-1_slack13.37.txz
- patches/packages/mozilla-thunderbird-10.0-i486-1_slack13.37.txz
Slackware current
- xap/mozilla-firefox-10.0-i486-1.txz
- xap/mozilla-thunderbird-10.0-i486-1.txz
I am mostly used to the new firefox- the new version (10.0) seems snappy!
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Douglas Mayne