Justlinux.ca
r...@realtomargarino.ca
Clearly his intent was to simply irritate us.
If he really wanted the domain name and he had any class, he would
have reminded us that we needed to pay to keep it up, and he would
have asked if he could have it if we did not want it anymore.
But he didn't. He simply snuck in there and took a domain that we
owned for 7 or 8 years and he has done nothing with it.
A real class act.
cordially, as always,
rm
notbob
> Clearly his intent was to simply irritate us.
Apparently, it worked.
nb
Dan C
LOL! HAR!
Loser.
--
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"Bother!" said Pooh, as he garotted another passing Liberal.
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Lew Pitcher
(undis...@undisclosed.invalid) wrote:
> In newsgroup alt.os.linux.slackware, r...@realtomargarino.ca wrote:
>
>> So Mr. Pitcher stole justlinux.ca and has done nothing with it.
>> Clearly his intent was to simply irritate us.
Is RM still complaining about his own stupidity?
RM: Get over it. You abandoned justlinux.ca. I waited a suitable length of
time before making a bid for it, and CIRA let me lease it.
You /obviously/ didn't want it; you got email reminders that the lease was
about to expire, /and/ after your lease expired, you got a grace period of
one month in which you could renew your lease before anyone else could make
a bid. You neglected to renew, ignored the email reminder, and refused to
release the domain name during the grace period. *You abandoned your claim
to justlinux.ca*
Now, I have an interest in Linux. I have written several articles, and
intend to write more. I have long intended to separate my Linux writings
from my personal webpage. I was looking for a suitable name. JustLinux.ca
was just such a name. I bid for a lease on it, and CIRA, finding no
overriding counterbids, leased it to me. What I do with justlinux.ca is
now *my business*, not yours. Remember, *YOU ABANDONED YOUR CLAIM TO THE
DOMAIN*.
I have asked you politely to cease using the justlinux.ca domain name in
your email address, and (with some abusive grumbling on your part) you have
done so. I am even now dealing with your justlinux.ca clientele; you are
aware that you ran an open telnet service, aren't you? I don't run such
services, and have had to block your old clientele from my systems.
Further, you seem to have been a busy boy with email addresses. While my
email service will accept properly addressed justlinux.ca emails, it
rejects those which I have not authorized. I find that people are trying to
reach you at the following addresses:
adist_is_a_p...@justlinux.ca,
litium.udmvt.ru-1...@justlinux.ca,
delet...@justlinux.ca,
r...@justlinux.ca,
r...@justlinux.ca,
rea...@justlinux.ca,
rm.del...@justlinux.ca,
rm.rem...@justlinux.ca, and
r...@justlinux.ca
Please inform your correspondents that you no longer receive mail at these
(or any other) justlinux.ca email addresses. I will continue to reject
(550) emails to these or any other unauthorized justlinux.ca email
addresses.
So, RM, get over it.
Cordially,
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576
http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | GPG public key available by request
---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------
Dan C
Outstanding. Just fucking priceless.
Talk about a public spanking! RM has been *completely* pwned!
A classic post, saved for future chuckles.
Loki Harfagr
> Please inform your correspondents that you no longer receive mail at
> these (or any other) justlinux.ca email addresses. I will continue to
> reject (550) emails to these or any other unauthorized justlinux.ca
> email addresses.
You may even prefer to put some action to reaction, just replace
the 550 reject with a plain 'let the sender bear the cub', e.g.:
471 abandoned mail domain, please contact mailmaster at r...@realtomargarino.ca
Admitted, that's a little bit too cord(iall)ite, and the MX doesn't answer yet, but...
Lew Pitcher
(l0...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID) wrote:
I thought of that, but...
1) I /do/ host email addresses in the justlinux.ca domain. I have no
desire to mislead /my/ correspondants in such a manner.
2) Taking such a step (I've considered replying to that list with a
550 "RM no longer lives here" or similar) would only exacerbate the
situation. I have no desire to hose RM that way, even though his
behaviour may warrant it and it would be a legally acceptable
approach on my part.
In other words, I don't intend to shoot either myself or RM in the foot.
John K. Herreshoff
LOL! I've had him plonked for the longest time, so I did not know what was
going on with him.
Cordially ;-)
John.
--
Using the Laptop at home.
Loki Harfagr
> On November 5, 2009 13:02, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Loki Harfagr
> (l0...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID) wrote:
>
>> Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:48:21 -0500, Lew Pitcher did cat :
>>
>>> Please inform your correspondents that you no longer receive mail at
>>> these (or any other) justlinux.ca email addresses. I will continue to
>>> reject (550) emails to these or any other unauthorized justlinux.ca
>>> email addresses.
>>
>> You may even prefer to put some action to reaction, just replace
>> the 550 reject with a plain 'let the sender bear the cub', e.g.: 471
>> abandoned mail domain, please contact mailmaster at
>> r...@realtomargarino.ca
>>
>> Admitted, that's a little bit too cord(iall)ite, and the MX doesn't
>> answer yet, but...
>
> I thought of that, but...
> 1) I /do/ host email addresses in the justlinux.ca domain. I have no
> desire to mislead /my/ correspondants in such a manner.
that'd be easy to cope with.
> 2) Taking such a step (I've considered replying to that list with a
> 550 "RM no longer lives here" or similar) would only exacerbate the
> situation. I have no desire to hose RM that way,
neither did I and I supposed that was the same with you, I guess
that I just tried to be funny after a too heavily loaded double Monday today
and I miserably failed at it :D)
> even though his
> behaviour may warrant it and it would be a legally acceptable
> approach on my part.
True, AAMOF some loonies inside my domains deserved that treat (and of
course it accelerated the solving of that "mysterious mail routing problem"
they had) but to do it for an external concern is a bit harsh, at least.
>
> In other words, I don't intend to shoot either myself or RM in the foot.
And that's the best attitude ever.
Besides, we all have a somewhat limited quantity of feet while the
subweapons are too many to even think about puking on them all in a go.
Keith Keller
>
> RM: Get over it. You abandoned justlinux.ca. I waited a suitable length of
> time before making a bid for it, and CIRA let me lease it.
I love that the first ''testimonial'' at the cira.ca front page is a
hockey tape vendor. :)
I tried finding this information, but could not find an explicit rule:
are you required to be a Canada resident in order to register a .ca
domain? The only thing I found is a blurb on their "why CA" page:
"Identify yourself as Canadian: Dot-ca is Canada's Internet identity,
reserved for Canadians, recognized and trusted worldwide."
That certainly implies that you must be Canadian, but if that's the only
statement about it it's possible there's some loophole (e.g., going
through a Canadian registrar that doesn't check residency/citizenship).
(Not that I'm looking to register a .ca domain, just curious.)
This incident should be a good reminder to those of us with domains to
make sure we're on top of them if we still want them. whois is a very
handy tool for verifying when domain registrations are about to expire.
--keith
(leavessuck.ca still available!)
--
kkeller...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us
(try just my userid to email me)
AOLSFAQ=http://www.therockgarden.ca/aolsfaq.txt
see X- headers for PGP signature information
Loki Harfagr
> That certainly implies that you must be Canadian,
"Ich bin ein canadair!"
Helmut Hullen
Du meintest am 05.11.09:
>> That certainly implies that you must be Canadian,
> "Ich bin ein canadair!"
"Vive le Canada! Vive le Quebec! ..."
Viele Gruesse
Helmut
"Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
Lew Pitcher
(kkeller...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us) wrote:
> I tried finding this information, but could not find an explicit rule:
> are you required to be a Canada resident in order to register a .ca
> domain? The only thing I found is a blurb on their "why CA" page:
According to http://cira.ca/faq-canadian-presence-requirements/
"What are Canadian Presence Requirements?"
"Canadian presence requirements are criteria that classify Registrants
according to legal type (e.g., as a company or an individual). The legal
type determines whether Registrants are eligible to register dot-ca
domain names and ensures that Registrants have a legal connection to
Canada. CIRA requires potential Registrants to establish Canadian
presence requirements before granting them a dot-ca domain."
"What is a legal type?"
"A legal type is a category that classifies a Registrant’s legal status
in Canada as defined in the document Canadian Presence Requirements for
Registrants. A dot-ca Registrant must conform to at least one legal type
to meet CIRA’s Canadian presence requirements. The legal type categories
are the following:
1. Canadian citizen
2. Permanent resident of Canada
3. Legal representative of a Canadian citizen or permanent resident
4. Corporation (Canada or Canadian province or territory)
5. Trust established in Canada
6. Partnership registered in Canada
7. Canadian unincorporated association
8. Canadian trade union
9. Canadian political party
10. Canadian educational institution
11. Canadian library, archive or museum
12. Canadian hospital
13. Her Majesty the Queen
14. Indian band recognized by the Indian Act of Canada
15. Aboriginal Peoples (individuals and groups) indigenous to Canada
16. Government or government entity in Canada
17. Trade-mark registered in Canada (by a non-Canadian owner)
18. Official marks registered in Canada"
"Where can I find more information on CIRA's Canadian Presence
requirements?"
"For further information, please refer to the document Canadian Presence
Requirements for Registrants
(http://cira.ca/assets/Documents/Legal/Registrants/CPR.pdf)"
HTH
Lew Pitcher
(no...@not.here) wrote:
> Lew Pitcher wrote:
>
>> On November 5, 2009 10:24, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Joe
>> (undis...@undisclosed.invalid) wrote:
>>
>>> In newsgroup alt.os.linux.slackware, r...@realtomargarino.ca wrote:
[snip]
> LOL! I've had him plonked for the longest time, so I did not know what
> was going on with him.
Since he started his personal attacks on me, I've plonked him as well. I
only knew he posted something because Dan C, Joe, SL/AC, and notbob all
responded to him.
> Cordially ;-)
With great pleasure :-)
Keith Keller
> (kkeller...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us) wrote:
>> I tried finding this information, but could not find an explicit rule:
>> are you required to be a Canada resident in order to register a .ca
>> domain? The only thing I found is a blurb on their "why CA" page:
>
> According to http://cira.ca/faq-canadian-presence-requirements/
Thanks a bunch. I finally did find this document; though really I
should have been able to find it myself. Oy, I'm gettin' old.
Not that it's our business, but which of the below are you?
> "What is a legal type?"
> "A legal type is a category that classifies a Registrant???s legal status
> in Canada as defined in the document Canadian Presence Requirements for
> Registrants. A dot-ca Registrant must conform to at least one legal type
> to meet CIRA???s Canadian presence requirements. The legal type categories
> are the following:
>
> 1. Canadian citizen
> 2. Permanent resident of Canada
> 3. Legal representative of a Canadian citizen or permanent resident
> 4. Corporation (Canada or Canadian province or territory)
> 5. Trust established in Canada
> 6. Partnership registered in Canada
> 7. Canadian unincorporated association
> 8. Canadian trade union
> 9. Canadian political party
> 10. Canadian educational institution
> 11. Canadian library, archive or museum
> 12. Canadian hospital
> 13. Her Majesty the Queen
> 14. Indian band recognized by the Indian Act of Canada
> 15. Aboriginal Peoples (individuals and groups) indigenous to Canada
> 16. Government or government entity in Canada
> 17. Trade-mark registered in Canada (by a non-Canadian owner)
> 18. Official marks registered in Canada"
I assume not Her Majesty. :)
--keith
Lew Pitcher
francisco.ca.us> wrote:
> On 2009-11-05, Lew Pitcher <lpitc...@teksavvy.com> wrote:
>
> > On November 5, 2009 14:32, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Keith Keller
> >> I tried finding this information, but could not find an explicit rule:
> >> are you required to be a Canada resident in order to register a .ca
> >> domain? The only thing I found is a blurb on their "why CA" page:
>
I'm a Canadian citizen. I presume that RM is as well, or at least that
he falls into one of the first three catagories. CIRA has erected a
privacy boundary around WHOIS information; if the domain lessor falls
into one of the first three categories, WHOIS won't release the
personal information (name, address, phone #, etc) for the domain's
lessor, administration, or technical contact. You have to go through a
cira.ca webpage to contact the domain contact list.
> I assume not Her Majesty. :)
Only on alternate Saturdays ;-)
.Martin.
> On November 5, 2009 13:02, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Loki Harfagr
> (l0...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID) wrote:
>
>> Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:48:21 -0500, Lew Pitcher did cat :
>>
>>> Please inform your correspondents that you no longer receive mail at
>>> these (or any other) justlinux.ca email addresses. I will continue to
>>> reject (550) emails to these or any other unauthorized justlinux.ca
>>> email addresses.
>> You may even prefer to put some action to reaction, just replace
>> the 550 reject with a plain 'let the sender bear the cub', e.g.:
>> 471 abandoned mail domain, please contact mailmaster at
>> r...@realtomargarino.ca
>>
>> Admitted, that's a little bit too cord(iall)ite, and the MX doesn't answer
>> yet, but...
>
> I thought of that, but...
> 1) I /do/ host email addresses in the justlinux.ca domain. I have no
> desire to mislead /my/ correspondants in such a manner.
> 2) Taking such a step (I've considered replying to that list with a
> 550 "RM no longer lives here" or similar) would only exacerbate the
> situation. I have no desire to hose RM that way, even though his
> behaviour may warrant it and it would be a legally acceptable
> approach on my part.
>
> In other words, I don't intend to shoot either myself or RM in the foot.
>
big favour promoting your website:)
Loki Harfagr
> canadair?
>
> canadian to german = Kanadierin, kanadisch, Kanadier
oh yeah, but seems you just missed the pun :-)
A Canadair is a very useful and appreciated water bombardier plane
very useful for forest fires, and the Canada is much appreciated
in my country (.fr) and the mimicked expression from JFK was
just as plain clumsy as the one I suggested, after all I prefer to
be helped by a yellow orange plane than by a greasy sausage.
Well, of course it is much less funny when dissected...
steveski
I didn't know that a Berliner had sausage in it. I thought it was a dessert
pastry. Thanks - You learn something new everyday :-)
--
Steveski
Loki Harfagr
Yup, though I wouldn't bet that a german donut is more far from
a greasy sausage than from a dessert pastry ;D)
And anyway, the special usage is in "ein" not in "Berliner"
but that made some noise at the time, like some "reporters"
in those days were already ahad of their era and ready to
dive down into the wonderful world of chatting about Brit'sPears
or Hilton bettings. Really, the XXth century was even shorter
than the 27 or 28 years it usually represents ;->
Helmut Hullen
Du meintest am 06.11.09:
>> after all I prefer to
>> be helped by a yellow orange plane than by a greasy sausage.
>> Well, of course it is much less funny when dissected...
> I didn't know that a Berliner had sausage in it. I thought it was a
> dessert pastry. Thanks - You learn something new everyday :-)
OMG!!!111
A "Berliner" is either a citizen of the town Berlin or a kind of
doughnut. The citizen may contain sausages. The doughnut doesn't.
I know - that's independent from the actual slackware version.
Keith Keller
>
> A "Berliner" is either a citizen of the town Berlin or a kind of
> doughnut. The citizen may contain sausages. The doughnut doesn't.
BTW, if it's in Wikipedia, it must be true:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ich_bin_ein_Berliner#Jelly_doughnut_urban_legend
As to whether a Berliner contains sausages, I thought it was pretty much
a given that all German cuisine contains sausage. Doesn't German
lettuce contain sausage? I think even the air over Germany contains
sausages. :)
--keith
r...@lewpitcherisgay.com
> On November 5, 2009 10:24, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Joe
> (undis...@undisclosed.invalid) wrote:
>> In newsgroup alt.os.linux.slackware, r...@realtomargarino.ca wrote:
>>> So Mr. Pitcher stole justlinux.ca and has done nothing with it.
>>> Clearly his intent was to simply irritate us.
> Is RM still complaining about his own stupidity?
> RM: Get over it. You abandoned justlinux.ca. I waited a suitable
> length of time before making a bid for it, and CIRA let me lease
> it.
A suitable length of time? What, about 5 seconds?
> You /obviously/ didn't want it; you got email reminders that the
> lease was about to expire, /and/ after your lease expired, you got
> a grace period of one month in which you could renew your lease
> before anyone else could make a bid.
No, we didn't receive any reminders. If we had, we probably would
have renewed.
> You neglected to renew, ignored the email reminder, and refused to
> release the domain name during the grace period. *You abandoned
> your claim to justlinux.ca*
You say that just to make you feel good.
The fact remains, you didn't point out to us that it expired. And
you didn't ask us if we minded if you took over a domain name that
had been registered to us for 7 years.
> Now, I have an interest in Linux. I have written several articles,
> and intend to write more.
Har.
> I have long intended to separate my Linux writings from my
> personal webpage. I was looking for a suitable name. JustLinux.ca
> was just such a name.
Bullshit. Although your implicit acknowledgement of your own lack
of creativity is obvious.
But you won't have any more luck drumming up a readership even if
you do use our domain name.
Hell, all we have to do is make a single post to this newsgroup and
we generate more response that your entire lifetime readership.
> I bid for a lease on it, and CIRA, finding no overriding
> counterbids, leased it to me. What I do with justlinux.ca is now
> *my business*, not yours. Remember, *YOU ABANDONED YOUR CLAIM TO
> THE DOMAIN*.
Yep, a real class act. We didn't abandon anything but more
important, you took no steps at all to ascertain that we abandoned
the site, or simply overlooked the renewal.
Since we were still using the name on our home server, it is clear
that we did not abandon the name. You took it in a lame attempt to
curry favour with the hoard that reads this newsgroup. After all,
they're the only ones who give a shit.
You took our domain name in an attempt to curry favour with the
likes of Dan C.
And that is absolutely pathetic.
> I have asked you politely to cease using the justlinux.ca domain
> name in your email address, and (with some abusive grumbling on
> your part) you have done so. I am even now dealing with your
> justlinux.ca clientele; you are aware that you ran an open telnet
> service, aren't you? I don't run such services, and have had to
> block your old clientele from my systems.
We never ran an open anything. In fact, we haven't had a DNS
pointing to that name in years.
But we always had assholes knocking on the door, though. That's the
price of being a real presence on the internet. Once the small fry
figure out that the name is registered to you, they'll stop.
Don't worry. You're safe.
The fact remains, that you paid good money in a lame attempt to
annoy us, and all your "plans" notwithstanding, you will never do
anything with justlinux.ca. If you had planned to do something you
would have registered a name that you selected that was more
descriptive of what you planned to do.
You're outed. If you do use justlinux.ca for anything it will only
be to prove us wrong. And you'll have to prove us wrong to maintain
approval from the hoard. All that work to seek the approval of Dan
C, et al?
Oh, and you do know that you live within an hour's driving distance?
Sleep tight.
cordially, as always,
rm
r...@lewpitcherisgay.com
> Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:48:21 -0500, Lew Pitcher did cat?:
>> Please inform your correspondents that you no longer receive mail
>> at these (or any other) justlinux.ca email addresses. I will
>> continue to reject (550) emails to these or any other
>> unauthorized justlinux.ca email addresses.
> You may even prefer to put some action to reaction, just replace
> the 550 reject with a plain 'let the sender bear the cub', e.g.:
> 471 abandoned mail domain, please contact mailmaster at
> r...@realtomargarino.ca
those too stupid to realize that we have had a dynamic IP for years.
You guys do know that you need DNS servers setup to actually use the
domain, right?
And you do know that realtomargarino.ca has not been setup with DNS
servers, right?
Maybe some of you will learn something out of this after all...
cordially, as always,
rm
Res
> delet...@justlinux.ca,
> r...@justlinux.ca,
> r...@justlinux.ca,
> rm.del...@justlinux.ca,
> rm.rem...@justlinux.ca, and
Never thought I'd see the day when I was defending low life scum like rm,
but...
All the ones with (delete|remove)this, r... etc - are spambot additions to
the usual rm/realto ones he actually used, he would not have created/used
them.. I see those all the time on this account but s'ing/rm/local_users/,
including mine, and I never use this account in personal corro (unless its
a quick reply to someone on usenet etc) only on some lists and usenet.
--
Res
"What does Windows have that Linux doesn't?" - One hell of a lot of bugs!
r...@lewpitcherisgay.com
> I thought of that, but...
> 1) I /do/ host email addresses in the justlinux.ca domain. I have no
> desire to mislead /my/ correspondants in such a manner.
> 2) Taking such a step (I've considered replying to that list with a
> 550 "RM no longer lives here" or similar) would only exacerbate the
> situation. I have no desire to hose RM that way, even though his
> behaviour may warrant it and it would be a legally acceptable
> approach on my part.
>
> In other words, I don't intend to shoot either myself or RM in the foot.
Why don't you just post all the email you get addressed to us at
r...@justlinux.ca?
Should be good for a laugh, no?
Sure, just post all the email you get. And show us the ip addresses
of those who tried to telnet to justlinux.ca.
You are either too full of shit ... or you are too stupid to
understand how the internet works...
cordially, as always,
rm
r...@lewpitcherisgay.com
> LOL! I've had him plonked for the longest time, so I did not know what was
> going on with him.
And you still don't know, sweetie, not if you are using Pitcher as a
source, because he doesn't have a clue.
cordially, as always,
rm
r...@lewpitcherisgay.com
>
> neither did I and I supposed that was the same with you, I guess
> that I just tried to be funny after a too heavily loaded double
> Monday today and I miserably failed at it :D)
Now, now. Don't suddenly get stupid on us.
Come right out and ask Mr. Pitcher to post all the email he receives
at that address.
We defy _anyone_ to show us one use of justlinux.ca that we have
made, outside of posting to this ng, in 5 years.
Anyone. Show us how much irritation you have caused us. Show us
even one thing that you have done that inconveniences us in any way.
Any way at all. Everybody would love to see it.
Justify the financial investment you made in justlinux.ca.
Show Dan C how clever you are.
> True, AAMOF some loonies inside my domains deserved that treat
> (and of course it accelerated the solving of that "mysterious mail
> routing problem" they had) but to do it for an external concern is
> a bit harsh, at least.
Try using gmail, or hotmail. These services are commensurate with
your abilities.
>> In other words, I don't intend to shoot either myself or RM in
>> the foot.
You don't even know how to pull the trigger, sweetie.
The _only_ reason we are "complaining" now is because we are bored
and we just wanted to generate some bandwidth...
And we succeeded. You could never do that on your own, could you?
That's because we have a fan base and none of the rest of you do.
We are not going to check the stats, but we're willing to bet that
traffic has increased by 100% or more since we made our latest
return to this ng.
cordially, as always,
rm
r...@lewpitcherisgay.com
> That certainly implies that you must be Canadian, but if that's
> the only statement about it it's possible there's some loophole
> (e.g., going through a Canadian registrar that doesn't check
> residency/citizenship). (Not that I'm looking to register a .ca
> domain, just curious.)
He just lives a few miles from us, although he didn't realize this
when he started this nonsense.
cordially, as always,
rm
r...@lewpitcherisgay.com
> Since he started his personal attacks on me, I've plonked him as
> well. I only knew he posted something because Dan C, Joe, SL/AC,
> and notbob all responded to him.
And do you honestly think anyone believes that?
cordially, as always,
rm
r...@lewpitcherisgay.com
> Yep. Made in Quebec. I agree that it's a very useful plane.
Mr. Pitcher lives in the middle of the tobacco belt in southwestern
Ontario.
And so do we!
We could post his exact address - it's listed in 411.ca. But this
way he can't prove that we know where he lives...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cordially, as always,
rm
Res
> The fact remains, you didn't point out to us that it expired. And
> you didn't ask us if we minded if you took over a domain name that
> had been registered to us for 7 years.
>
why the fuck should he, is he your personal assistant or something....
BTW moron, the registrars have a cooling off hold period on expired
domains, so if it expired today, he couldnt register it for, IIRC, at
least 30 days, used to be (or still might be), 60 days.
Lew Pitcher
wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, r...@LewPitcherIsGay.com wrote:
>
>> The fact remains, you didn't point out to us that it expired. And
>> you didn't ask us if we minded if you took over a domain name that
>> had been registered to us for 7 years.
>>
>
> why the fuck should he, is he your personal assistant or something....
Very true. It's not /my/ job to remind RM of his obligations.
Actually, it is/was his registrar's job (i.e. Tucows.com). CIRA sends a
reminder email to the registered holder at their registered email address
(I surmise that RM changed his email address without informing CIRA), and
sends a copy of the reminder to the registrar. The registrar /usually/
reminds the registrant via email.
> BTW moron, the registrars have a cooling off hold period on expired
> domains, so if it expired today, he couldnt register it for, IIRC, at
> least 30 days, used to be (or still might be), 60 days.
CIRA's "hold" period is 30 days. RM's lease on justlinux.ca expired on
September 3, and I bid on it on October 11. As I said, I waited a suitable
time: 7 days past the last point that RM could have renewed his lease on
justlinux.ca.
r...@lewpitcherisgay.com
[deletia]
Let's just say that we were running a mailserver for a small medical
clinic. And let's just say that some email got lost because you
hijacked our site. And let's just say that somebody died as a
result.
No question that we would be liable, legally. But you, and you
alone, would be morally responsible for that death. How would you
like to explain to the family of the person who died that your
little "prank" cost their loved ones their life?
Or say that we were supporting a webpage putting together a petition
to save the life of somebody on death row? And let's just say that
because of your hijacking, we lost the site, and an innocent person
was executed, again, because of your little prank?
You see, you just don't know what you are doing and when you
hijacked the name justlinux.ca you and you alone could be morally
responsible for all kinds of unfortunate happenings to all kinds of
innocent people.
True, we would be legally liable. But you and you alone would be
morally responsible.
You are a real class act. And since you can't adress this
criticism, you'll pretend that you haven't read it. But everyone,
at least those smart enough to have our respect, will know how
pathetic you truly are.
cordially, as always,
rm
Res
> Very true. It's not /my/ job to remind RM of his obligations.
>
> Actually, it is/was his registrar's job (i.e. Tucows.com). CIRA sends a
> reminder email to the registered holder at their registered email address
> (I surmise that RM changed his email address without informing CIRA), and
> sends a copy of the reminder to the registrar. The registrar /usually/
> reminds the registrant via email.
Most likley the case, or he has a filter that trashed it as spam, either
way, it is not your problem, the domain was free for anyone, would he be
here bitching like a little girl if teh daomin was snapped up by say, Shaw
or perhaps Linus himself? I think we all know the answer to that one don't
we :)
>> BTW moron, the registrars have a cooling off hold period on expired
>> domains, so if it expired today, he couldnt register it for, IIRC, at
>> least 30 days, used to be (or still might be), 60 days.
>
> CIRA's "hold" period is 30 days. RM's lease on justlinux.ca expired on
> September 3, and I bid on it on October 11. As I said, I waited a
More than adequate wait time I'd say.
Res
--
Michael Black
> Lew Pitcher <lpit...@teksavvy.com> trolled:
>
> [deletia]
>
> Let's just say that we were running a mailserver for a small medical
> clinic. And let's just say that some email got lost because you
> hijacked our site. And let's just say that somebody died as a
> result.
>
If it's an issue, then the issue clearly lies with the registration
process. There shouldn't be such a short time between expiry and
when someone new can claim it.
But the problem also rests with people who can't keep track of such
an important thing as you describe. If it was important to you, you
should have been keeping track of when it was going to expire. I know
someone who lost their domain and it was pounced on immediately, but she
was pretty careless to not be paying attention. That is the sort of
carpetbagger we are now seeing, the clueless coming to the internet,
"knowing" all that they need to know, but then they can't even keep track
of their domain registration? She was running a business, and stupidly
named her business after the domain name, so when she lost it, there went
her business name. How stupid can you be to let that happen?
Michael
Handover Phist
> Lew Pitcher <lpit...@teksavvy.com> trolled:
>
> [deletia]
>
> Let's just say that we were running a mailserver for a small medical
> clinic. And let's just say that some email got lost because you
> hijacked our site. And let's just say that somebody died as a
> result.
Wow. Just, wow. You run a mailserver for a medical facility but don't
make sure you still have the domain? Holy crap you deserve to get fired!
> Or say that we were supporting a webpage putting together a petition
> to save the life of somebody on death row? And let's just say that
> because of your hijacking, we lost the site, and an innocent person
> was executed, again, because of your little prank?
You run a site to get someone off of death row who is innocent and you
allow the domain to expire? Massive fail!
> You see, you just don't know what you are doing and when you
> hijacked the name justlinux.ca you and you alone could be morally
> responsible for all kinds of unfortunate happenings to all kinds of
> innocent people.
It is the administrators job to run the site, and ensure the domain is
paid for.
> True, we would be legally liable. But you and you alone would be
> morally responsible.
>
> You are a real class act. And since you can't adress this
> criticism, you'll pretend that you haven't read it. But everyone,
> at least those smart enough to have our respect, will know how
> pathetic you truly are.
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm
Wow. It's very rare to see this type of response to ones own failure.
The attachment of blame to another for your obvious failure..... someone
aughta write a paper or something.
--
Peace was the way.
-- Kirk, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate unknown
Keith Keller
>>
> If it's an issue, then the issue clearly lies with the registration
> process. There shouldn't be such a short time between expiry and
> when someone new can claim it.
Thirty days isn't long enough? It should certainly be long enough for
someone who were actually using the domain for something important to
notice that the domain no longer functioned, even if they were so
incompetent as to have lost or misdirected the numerous reminders sent
out by the registrar as to the domain expiring.
Dan C
> Let's just say that we were running a mailserver for a small medical
> clinic.
But you're not. Strawman strike one.
> Or say that we were supporting a webpage putting together a petition to
> save the life of somebody on death row?
But you're not. Strawman strike two.
> You see, you just don't know what you are doing and when you hijacked
> the name justlinux.ca you and you alone could be morally responsible for
> all kinds of unfortunate happenings to all kinds of innocent people.
Nothing was "hijacked". You've been told how it played out, numerous
times. You fucked up and didn't renew it. Your fault, and yours alone.
> You are a real class act.
And you are not.
> cordially, as always,
Bugger off, troll.
--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he garotted another passing Liberal.
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
r...@lewpitcherisgay.com
> r...@LewPitcherIsGay.com :
>> Lew Pitcher <lpit...@teksavvy.com> trolled:
>>
>> [deletia]
>>
>> Let's just say that we were running a mailserver for a small medical
>> clinic. And let's just say that some email got lost because you
>> hijacked our site. And let's just say that somebody died as a
>> result.
>
> Wow. Just, wow. You run a mailserver for a medical facility but don't
> make sure you still have the domain? Holy crap you deserve to get fired!
That's right. And, as we stated below, we would be legally liable.
Duh. Reading problems, still, huh?
But we wouldn't be _morally_ at fault. Mr. Pitcher would be
_morally_ at fault for any such hypothetical death.
Now we realize that doesn't mean much to you ...
>> Or say that we were supporting a webpage putting together a petition
>> to save the life of somebody on death row? And let's just say that
>> because of your hijacking, we lost the site, and an innocent person
>> was executed, again, because of your little prank?
>
> You run a site to get someone off of death row who is innocent and you
> allow the domain to expire? Massive fail!
Gee, we've already made that point.
>> You see, you just don't know what you are doing and when you
>> hijacked the name justlinux.ca you and you alone could be morally
>> responsible for all kinds of unfortunate happenings to all kinds of
>> innocent people.
>
> It is the administrators job to run the site, and ensure the domain is
> paid for.
True enough. But we are talking about the moral responsibility of a
human being. Apes like you would never understand.
So run along.
cordially, as always,
rm
r...@lewpitcherisgay.com
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, r...@LewPitcherIsGay.com wrote:
>> Lew Pitcher <lpit...@teksavvy.com> trolled:
>>
>> [deletia]
>>
>> Let's just say that we were running a mailserver for a small
>> medical clinic. And let's just say that some email got lost
>> because you hijacked our site. And let's just say that somebody
>> died as a result.
> If it's an issue, then the issue clearly lies with the
> registration process. There shouldn't be such a short time
> between expiry and when someone new can claim it.
Not the moral issue. Moral fault would definitely lie with the one
who took deliberate action in the face of potentially dire
circumstances. Certainly we would be legally at fault. And you can
argue that we are incompetent.
But the person who stole the domain name causing death is quite
arguably evil.
> But the problem also rests with people who can't keep track of
> such an important thing as you describe.
We have conceded that.
> That is the sort of carpetbagger we are now seeing, the clueless
> coming to the internet, "knowing" all that they need to know, but
> then they can't even keep track of their domain registration?
Nonsense. There is nothing "clueless" about making a simple
mistake. We have been renewing the domain for 7 years. Nothing
clueless at all.
If anyone is clueless, it is Pitcher for hijacking the name simply
to annoy us and potentially causes dire results. And if anyone else
is clueless it is boobs like you who can't see that what he did was
irresponsible and morally reprehensible.
If anyone had died, it would have been partially our fault for
making a mistake. But it would be partially his fault for acting in
an evil malicious manner.
cordially, as always,
rm
r...@lewpitcherisgay.com
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>
>> Very true. It's not /my/ job to remind RM of his obligations.
>> Actually, it is/was his registrar's job (i.e. Tucows.com). CIRA
>> sends a reminder email to the registered holder at their
>> registered email address (I surmise that RM changed his email
>> address without informing CIRA), and sends a copy of the reminder
>> to the registrar. The registrar /usually/ reminds the registrant
>> via email.
> Most likley the case, or he has a filter that trashed it as spam,
> either way, it is not your problem, the domain was free for
> anyone, would he be here bitching like a little girl if teh daomin
> was snapped up by say, Shaw or perhaps Linus himself? I think we
> all know the answer to that one don't we :)
What really happened, if you are truly interested, is that we were
registered using dran...@hotmail.com but since we got so much spam
at that address, we changed to dran...@gmale.com (or something
like that) and we forgot to look for the CIRA renewal notice.
The fact remains, Pitcher hijacked the domain we held for seven
years just to annoy us. He has zero interest in actually using it.
The classy thing for him to do is return it.
And that should go without saying...
cordially, as always,
rm
Old Man
> Let's just say that we were running a mailserver for a small medical
> clinic. And let's just say that some email got lost because you
> hijacked our site. And let's just say that somebody died as a
> result.
Let's just say the moon is made of cheese, and you fitted your dog with a
rocket pack and pressure suit, and he ate the moon. And let's just say
tsunamis resulted and whole coastal populations were wiped out.
>
> No question that we would be liable, legally. But you, and you
> alone, would be morally responsible for that death. How would you
> like to explain to the family of the person who died that your
> little "prank" cost their loved ones their life?
Yeah, how will people take it when you say, "Sorry about the tidal
disruption, but see, my dog ate the moon."
>
> Or say that we were supporting a webpage putting together a petition
> to save the life of somebody on death row? And let's just say that
> because of your hijacking, we lost the site, and an innocent person
> was executed, again, because of your little prank?
Oh, you Canadians and your death row. Always executing some poor innocent
slob.
Wait, wait, I know - Let's say rm has "a real presence on the internet" and
it slipped his mind or something.
<snip>
--
Old Man
Robby Workman
> Lew Pitcher <lpit...@teksavvy.com> trolled:
>
> [deletia]
>
> Let's just say that we were running a mailserver for a small medical
> clinic. And let's just say that some email got lost because you
> hijacked our site. And let's just say that somebody died as a
> result.
>
> No question that we would be liable, legally. But you, and you
> alone, would be morally responsible for that death. How would you
> like to explain to the family of the person who died that your
> little "prank" cost their loved ones their life?
You don't get to decide what someone else's morals are.
-RW
~kurt
>
> But the problem also rests with people who can't keep track of such
> an important thing as you describe. If it was important to you, you
> should have been keeping track of when it was going to expire. I know
rm was in between meds....
Too funny seeing how agitated he is over it. You would think such an
accomplished troll would be better at hiding this.
- Kurt
r...@lewpitcherisgay.com
We more or less share morality. If we didn't we would live in
anarchy and chaos.
cordially, as always,
rm
r...@lewpitcherisgay.com
> Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote:
>> But the problem also rests with people who can't keep track of
>> such an important thing as you describe. If it was important to
>> you, you should have been keeping track of when it was going to
>> expire. I know
> rm was in between meds....
And how is this kind of thing helpful?
> Too funny seeing how agitated he is over it. You would think such
> an accomplished troll would be better at hiding this.
The fact that we are discussing it does not mean that we are
"agitated."
We think that it would have been just as gutless an act if he had
stolen your long-held domain simply because you forgot to renew it.
But that is an intellectual response, not an emotional reaction.
cordially, as always,
rm
Res
> What really happened, if you are truly interested, is that we were
> registered using dran...@hotmail.com but since we got so much spam
> at that address, we changed to dran...@gmale.com (or something
> like that) and we forgot to look for the CIRA renewal notice.
>
> The fact remains, Pitcher hijacked the domain we held for seven
> years just to annoy us. He has zero interest in actually using it.
> The classy thing for him to do is return it.
>
So you failed to notice no mail or no hits on whatever service you ran for
a full month (the 30 day hold period by registrar)? not likely.
> And that should go without saying...
it certainly does, you didnt give a rats ass about it until LP registered
it.
Loki Harfagr
> Loki Harfagr <l0...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.invalid> trolled:
>> Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:48:21 -0500, Lew Pitcher did cat?:
>
>>> Please inform your correspondents that you no longer receive mail at
>>> these (or any other) justlinux.ca email addresses. I will continue to
>>> reject (550) emails to these or any other unauthorized justlinux.ca
>>> email addresses.
>
>> You may even prefer to put some action to reaction, just replace the
>> 550 reject with a plain 'let the sender bear the cub', e.g.: 471
>> abandoned mail domain, please contact mailmaster at
>> r...@realtomargarino.ca
>
> The only people who would be sending mail to that address would be those
> too stupid
that's why the recipe was to put the wear on the loony sender,
it seems you're not fully back awaken from hibernation, I've
read you in the past on a better shape ;-)
> to realize that we have had a dynamic IP for years.
>
> You guys do know that you need DNS servers setup to actually use the
> domain, right?
Yes, after all I should.
> And you do know that realtomargarino.ca has not been setup with DNS
> servers, right?
at least that was the case when I checked, so I was sure the recipe
wouldn't do any harm to other than the lost senders.
> Maybe some of you will learn something out of this after all...
Well, you know, "the small difference between you and me is
a little something you don't know yet" (can't remember the
original author, sorry) ;->
Loki Harfagr
...
> What really happened, if you are truly interested, is that we were
> registered using dran...@hotmail.com but since we got so much spam at
> that address, we changed to dran...@gmale.com (or something like that)
> and we forgot to look for the CIRA renewal notice.
It is now clearer. After all those years of howling you didn't
know who 'maynard' and 'dranyam' were, you finally believed in
your self deny. The moral is tautologic and logic's safe ,-)
r...@lewpitcherisgay.com
> So you failed to notice no mail or no hits on whatever service you ran for
> a full month (the 30 day hold period by registrar)? not likely.
We weren't running any services with that domain during that 30 day
period.
> it certainly does, you didnt give a rats ass about it until LP registered
> it.
That's obvious. That's why we kept renewing it for seven years.
Are you burned out or just switched off?
less cordial than usual,
rm
r...@lewpitcherisgay.com
> It is now clearer. After all those years of howling you didn't
> know who 'maynard' and 'dranyam' were, you finally believed in
> your self deny. The moral is tautologic and logic's safe ,-)
What does Manyard have to do with dranyamlr?
cordially, as always,
rm
Lew Pitcher
(kkeller...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us) wrote:
> On 2009-11-07, Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>
>> If it's an issue, then the issue clearly lies with the registration
>> process. There shouldn't be such a short time between expiry and
>> when someone new can claim it.
>
> Thirty days isn't long enough? It should certainly be long enough for
> someone who were actually using the domain for something important to
> notice that the domain no longer functioned, even if they were so
> incompetent as to have lost or misdirected the numerous reminders sent
> out by the registrar as to the domain expiring.
I should point out that RM's lease on the name expired at the beginning of
that 30 day period. At that point (September 3), the registrar marked
justlinux.ca as SUSPended, and the justlinux.ca DNS entry was expunged. As
of Sept 3, justlinux.ca ceased to exist as a DNS-resolvable domain name.
The 30 day period gives the previous lessor an opportunity to change his
mind about giving up the domain name. Only RM could have put in a bid for
justlinux.ca during that time. But, the domain would still have been
unresolvable until /someone/ bid for it (either RM during the 30 day
window, or /anyone/ after that window).
So, to conclude,
RM abandoned his claim to justlinux.ca by
failing to have his registrar "autorenew" his registration,
ignoring the re-registration notices issued by both CIRA and his registrar,
and failing to register justlinux.ca during the 30 day suspension period
Any moral impacts of RM's lack of attention reside solely with RM.
And, that's the last I'll respond to /this/ thread.
PS: RM, you stay plonked.
Lew Pitcher
(lpit...@teksavvy.com) wrote:
[snip]
> And, that's the last I'll respond to /this/ thread.
OK, so I lied, a little.
FWIW, CIRA announces weekly all domain names that have not been renewed by
the end of the suspension period. This weeks list of 3663 names can be
found at http://ro.cira.ca/tbrlist_p?datet=2009/11/11
Perhaps RM would be interested in one of these names. I could make a few
suggestions, but...
Lew Pitcher
On November 7, 2009 05:08, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Loki Harfagr
(l0...@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID) wrote:
> Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:35:43 +0000, rm did cat :
>> to realize that we have had a dynamic IP for years.
>>
>> You guys do know that you need DNS servers setup to actually use the
>> domain, right?
~ $ whois realtomargarino.ca
Domain name: realtomargarino.ca
Domain status: EXIST
Approval date: 2009/10/17
Renewal date: 2011/10/17
Updated date: 2009/10/17
Registrar:
Name: SIBERNAME INTERNET AND SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGIES INC.
Number: 108
Name servers:
ws1.sibername.com
ws2.sibername.com
% WHOIS look-up made at 2009-11-07 16:49:16 (GMT)
%
% Use of CIRA's WHOIS service is governed by the Terms of Use in its Legal
% Notice, available at http://www.cira.ca/legal-notice/?lang=en
%
% (c) 2007 Canadian Internet Registration Authority, (http://www.cira.ca/)
~ $ ping -c 3 realtomargarino.ca
PING realtomargarino.ca (64.247.58.248) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 64.247.58.248: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=66.1 ms
64 bytes from 64.247.58.248: icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=66.2 ms
64 bytes from 64.247.58.248: icmp_seq=3 ttl=55 time=66.1 ms
--- realtomargarino.ca ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2000ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 66.123/66.191/66.254/0.216 ms
~ $
It appears that RM /has/ a DNS server, and doesn't know about it.
For that matter, http://realtomargarino.ca/ works as well; RM: If you didnt'
know, you have a webserver up.
Loki Harfagr
Yes, that's a pity, he's not half the noise he used to be, lithium
can be nasty when too deep and long...
> For
> that matter, http://realtomargarino.ca/ works as well; RM: If you didnt'
> know, you have a webserver up.
Yep, though I was only interested in the possible mail routing but
now's a change from last time I tried it (or its TTL was just outta tune
with the simple point where and when I did), the domain now has an MX setup:
-----------
$ dig realtomargarino.ca mx
...
;; ANSWER SECTION:
realtomargarino.ca. 14400 IN MX 10 mail.realtomargarino.ca.
-----------
which would make the fun with loonies recipe a double bind one.
Now, "the door once opened then shut" and this thread's over.
Res
> Res <r...@ausics.net> trolled:
>
>> So you failed to notice no mail or no hits on whatever service you ran for
>> a full month (the 30 day hold period by registrar)? not likely.
>
> We weren't running any services with that domain during that 30 day
> period.
In that case you were never running any services, not one that was relied
upon by anyone, so as usual you are just living up to your title as
deputy chief troll.
>
>> it certainly does, you didnt give a rats ass about it until LP registered
>> it.
>
> That's obvious. That's why we kept renewing it for seven years.
for what reason, cant be a web site if you wernt running it for a month,
cant be mail, if you wernt running for a month... cant be much of anything
if you wernt running it for a month.
r...@lewpitcherisgay.com
> Any moral impacts of RM's lack of attention reside solely with RM.
You hijacked our domain name with the sole intention of annoying us
and you did so without checking as to whether there would be
consequences. You are not using the address now. You will never
use the address in the future. You are a petty, malicious and
boorish little man, revealed as such to all by the fact that you
wasted no time in alerting the Dan Cs of the world that you hijacked
the domain in a lame attempt to curry favour with them.
What kind of person would care what the Dan Cs of the world think?
Imagine if somebody died because of your attempt to curry favour
with Dan C?
> And, that's the last I'll respond to /this/ thread.
> PS: RM, you stay plonked.
Nice try. Put your hands over your ears and hum. Maybe that'll
work.
We weren't using it anyway so we really don't care. But that does
not change the fact that you did was quite reprehensible. A
reasonable and responsible person would have reminded us that we
hadn't renewed, and, if he truly wanted the domain, he would have
asked if we minded if he could have had it.
Your attempt to curry favour with Dan C could have had serious
ramifications to innocent persons. Somebody could have died. You
could have cost somebody a ton of dough and all for a nod of
approval from trash much like yourself.
cordially, as always,
rm
r...@lewpitcherstealsdomains.com
[deletia]
Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop a 100 dollar bill. He seized
it, waved it in the old lady's face, and cried, "It's mine! Finders
keepers, losers weepers!" Then he phoned up Dan C and the two
celebrated his good fortune.
cordially, as always,
rm
r...@lewpitcherstealsdomains.com
[deletia]
Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop one hundred dollars, whereupon
he seized it, waved it in the old lady's face, crying "Finders
keepers, losers weepers!"
He then telephoned Dan C and the two celebrated his good fortune.
cordially, as always,
rm
r...@lewpitcherstealsdomains.com
r...@lewpitcherstealsdomains.com
Michael Black
> On 2009-11-07, Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>
>> If it's an issue, then the issue clearly lies with the registration
>> process. There shouldn't be such a short time between expiry and
>> when someone new can claim it.
>
> Thirty days isn't long enough? It should certainly be long enough for
> someone who were actually using the domain for something important to
> notice that the domain no longer functioned, even if they were so
> incompetent as to have lost or misdirected the numerous reminders sent
> out by the registrar as to the domain expiring.
>
I don't know if it's long enough or not. Since I could point to a real
world example of someone losing their domain by a pouncer, I definitely
can see that it is important not to lose the domain name, when one is
actually using it.
But I also did say that one has to be pretty stupid to not keep track of
this sort of thing. My main point was that it sure wasn't Lew's place to
remind or warn someone before taking over the domain. If it's important,
the owner would be making sure contact information is up to date, and
would mark the calendar and do all kinds of things to remind themselves
to renew the domain name registration.
Michael
r...@lewpitcherstealsdomains.com
> Yep, though I was only interested in the possible mail routing but
> now's a change from last time I tried it (or its TTL was just outta tune
> with the simple point where and when I did), the domain now has an MX setup:
The registrar also gave us primary and secondary dns. That's nice,
but we didn't ask for them.
Nonetheless, the issue is whether justlinux.ca had dns. They
did not have them recently. And, it appears, they never will have
them again.
cordially, as always,
rm
--
r...@lewpitcherstealsdomains.com
> Man, you're truly a totally F**KED UP A**HOLE with no sense at all.
>
> You need psychiatric help FAST.
Whatever you say, Joe.
r...@lewpitcherstealsdomains.com
> In that case you were never running any services, not one that was relied
> upon by anyone, so as usual you are just living up to your title as
> deputy chief troll.
And who would be Chief Troll? You?
> for what reason, cant be a web site if you wernt running it for a month,
> cant be mail, if you wernt running for a month... cant be much of anything
> if you wernt running it for a month.
It wasn't much of anything, not currently. But now that
Mr. Pitcher has it, it will never be used for anything.
r...@lewpitcherstealsdomains.com
> I don't know if it's long enough or not. Since I could point to a real
> world example of someone losing their domain by a pouncer, I definitely
> can see that it is important not to lose the domain name, when one is
> actually using it.
Pouncer is the right word. And we weren't actually using it.
> But I also did say that one has to be pretty stupid to not keep track of
> this sort of thing.
Either that, or we really didn't care. From time to time we need a
domain name for experimental reasons and it doesn't really matter
what it is.
> My main point was that it sure wasn't Lew's place to remind or
> warn someone before taking over the domain.
Well, it's a simple courtesy that should be observed among
acquaintances. But, since he is a "pouncer" as you stated above,
courtesy is quite irrelevant.
> If it's important, the owner would be making sure contact
> information is up to date, and would mark the calendar and do all
> kinds of things to remind themselves to renew the domain name
> registration.
Absolutely right. And we admitted that.
On the other hand, we all make mistakes. Apparently Mr. Pitcher is
the type of person who would take advantage of that mistake for the
sole purpose of entertaining other posters. He has no use for
justlinux.ca, and he never will have a use for it, unless of course,
he is shamed into it by us.
His sole reason for pouncing on the domain was to entertain other
degenerates.
Dan C
YEAH!!! Hell yeah!
Free beer for everyone in here.
Except RM.
> cordially, as always,
Bugger off, troll.
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Dan C
>> Any moral impacts of RM's lack of attention reside solely with RM.
>
> You hijacked our domain name with the sole intention of annoying us and
> you did so without checking as to whether there would be consequences.
No, he simply registered an available domain name, that the previous
owner had chosen not to renew. There *are* no consequences to that.
> You are not using the address now.
Ummmm.... yes, he is. Put the address into your browser, dimwit.
> What kind of person would care what the Dan Cs of the world think?
> Imagine if somebody died because of your attempt to curry favour with
> Dan C?
Huh? How did I get involved?
> We weren't using it anyway so we really don't care.
Of course you do. You wouldn't be in here constantly whining about it if
you didn't care.
> Your attempt to curry favour with Dan C could have had serious
> ramifications to innocent persons.
Huh? WTF are you talking about, you silly loon?
> Somebody could have died. You could have cost somebody a ton of dough
and all for a nod of approval from trash much like yourself.
LOL! How could "somebody have died"? You said yourself that you weren't
even using the domain name. WTF are you talking about, whacko?
> cordially, as always,
Bugger off, ignorant troll.
Dan C
>> But I also did say that one has to be pretty stupid to not keep track
>> of this sort of thing.
>
> Either that, or we really didn't care.
Well, it's obvious that you *do* care, by the amount of whining you're
doing about it. The Poor Innocent Victim routine. Obvious and
pathetic. So, since you do care, the only other explanation, as you just
stated above, is that you are pretty stupid.
>> If it's important, the owner would be making sure contact information
>> is up to date, and would mark the calendar and do all kinds of things
>> to remind themselves to renew the domain name registration.
> Absolutely right. And we admitted that.
So why the continued whining?
> cordially, as always,
Bugger off, you whiny little bitch.
r...@lewpitcher.ca
>> What kind of person would care what the Dan Cs of the world think?
>> Imagine if somebody died because of your attempt to curry favour with
>> Dan C?
> Huh? How did I get involved?
We had to pick someone to represent the lowest common denominator.
> Huh? WTF are you talking about, you silly loon?
Think of it as something like the "missing link."
> WTF are you talking about, whacko?
You'll never, ever, know.
cordially, as always,
rm
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r...@lewpitcher.ca
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:07:16 +0000, rm cried:
> Well, it's obvious that you *do* care, by the amount of whining
> you're doing about it. The Poor Innocent Victim routine. Obvious
> and pathetic. So, since you do care, the only other explanation,
> as you just stated above, is that you are pretty stupid.
We're not whining, dumbass. We're simply pointing out that you're
not the only piece of trash that posts to this ng.
> So why the continued whining?
Nobody seems to be whining, except for you! Over and over again.
We do believe you are agitated and upset about being displaced to
secondary troll status.
Is nobody paying any attention to you? Is that the problem?
Perhaps you should find a new schtick?
Check out our new, registered domain name - lewpitcher.ca
cordially, even to whiny little bitches,
Res
> Res <r...@ausics.net> trolled:
>
>> In that case you were never running any services, not one that was relied
>> upon by anyone, so as usual you are just living up to your title as
>> deputy chief troll.
>
> And who would be Chief Troll? You?
your cousin, ANC
>
>> for what reason, cant be a web site if you wernt running it for a month,
>> cant be mail, if you wernt running for a month... cant be much of anything
>> if you wernt running it for a month.
>
> It wasn't much of anything, not currently. But now that
so for seven years it wasnt much of anything, adn was never going to be
anyting, until someone liked the name and found it available at the
registrar and decided to do something with it which is more than you did,
or were you only ever just 'domain squating'
> Mr. Pitcher has it, it will never be used for anything.
I think someone has already proved that wrong
r...@lewpitcher.ca
> so for seven years it wasnt much of anything, adn was never going to be
No, we used it quite a bit in the past. And we would have used it
again in the future.
> anyting, until someone liked the name and found it available at the
No. Nobody "liked the name and found it available." Lew Pitcher
did a whois seeking to cause trouble and discovered that we weren't
paid up.
So instead of bringing this to our attention, he simply stole the
domain name.
We can't believe you are this stupid. It seems you are being
obtuse. We aren't going to play with you until you grow up.
What do you think of our new, registered, domain name?
Res
RM finally admits he's a piece of trash!
> We're not whining, dumbass. We're simply pointing out that you're
> not the only piece of trash that posts to this ng.
Res
> So instead of bringing this to our attention, he simply stole the
> domain name.
>
> We can't believe you are this stupid. It seems you are being
> obtuse. We aren't going to play with you until you grow up.
we cant believe you are so stupid as to be here nearly 2 weeks later
still crying your puny eyes out because you fucked up, nobody needs
to bring shit to your attention trollboi, nobody here is your PA, its up
to you to ensure the registrar has valid reachable details, you failed, much
like everything else in your life, fail Fail, FAIL!
Chick Tower
> The tools he refers to have nothing to do with the GDEs, the 'Linux
> Desktop'. These are just suites of graphical apps that include those tools
> and they do not need the GDE to be used.
>
> Furthermore, the GDEs are Windows-clone interfaces and anyone who uses
> them _is_ a prisoner of Windows.
Nice attempt to hijack the thread to serve your own personal agenda, Sid.
And to add in unrelated newsgroups.
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Dan C
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:52:53 +0100, Sidney Lambe wrote:
>
>> The tools he refers to have nothing to do with the GDEs, the 'Linux
>> Desktop'. These are just suites of graphical apps that include those
>> tools and they do not need the GDE to be used.
>>
>> Furthermore, the GDEs are Windows-clone interfaces and anyone who uses
>> them _is_ a prisoner of Windows.
>
> Nice attempt to hijack the thread to serve your own personal agenda,
> Sid. And to add in unrelated newsgroups.
Nobody took the bait of responding to him, except you...
r...@lewpitcher.ca
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, r...@LewPitcher.ca wrote:
>
>> So instead of bringing this to our attention, he simply stole the
>> domain name.
>>
>> We can't believe you are this stupid. It seems you are being
>> obtuse. We aren't going to play with you until you grow up.
>
> we cant believe you are so stupid as to be here nearly 2 weeks later
> still crying your puny eyes out because you fucked up, nobody needs
> to bring shit to your attention trollboi, nobody here is your PA, its up
> to you to ensure the registrar has valid reachable details, you failed, much
> like everything else in your life, fail Fail, FAIL!
But we didn't fail to register Lewpitcher.ca and Lewpitcher.com!
cordially, as always,
rm
Chick Tower
> Nobody took the bait of responding to him, except you...
Nah, we're both probably in his kill-file. He won't see any of this, and
be sure to tell us he didn't see it, too.
r...@lewpitcherstealsdomains.com
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:39:55 +0000, Dan C wrote:
>> Nobody took the bait of responding to him, except you...
> Nah, we're both probably in his kill-file. He won't see any of
> this, and be sure to tell us he didn't see it, too.
We don't have a killfile. We have very seldom seen the need for
one. It's not difficult to skip authors we don't wish to read.
But the one who uses an imaginary killfile, as he demonstrated in
this very thread, is the classy fellow who stole our domain name.
We remain flattered that he had to use a name that we created,
rather than come up with one himself.
cordially, as always,
rm
A Guy Called Tyketto
Hash: SHA1
r...@lewpitcherstealsdomains.com wrote:
> Chick Tower <c.t...@deadspam.com> trolled:
>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:39:55 +0000, Dan C wrote:
>
>>> Nobody took the bait of responding to him, except you...
>
>> Nah, we're both probably in his kill-file. He won't see any of
>> this, and be sure to tell us he didn't see it, too.
>
> We don't have a killfile. We have very seldom seen the need for
> one. It's not difficult to skip authors we don't wish to read.
Why are you even here?
> But the one who uses an imaginary killfile, as he demonstrated in
> this very thread, is the classy fellow who stole our domain name.
Aww... still crying over the fact that you got pwned?
> We remain flattered that he had to use a name that we created,
> rather than come up with one himself.
Flattered? I would come up with something witty to say here,
but I'll just be blunt: you *FAIL*.
Oh wait! I just registered RogerMaynardBlowzGoatz.com! I'll
post some pictures of you (and you and you and you and you) on it
caught in the act with a couple goats using some lotion from the Body
Shop!
> cordially, as always,
You being cordial is like using an anal cranial shunt for an
enema.
BL.
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Dan C
>> We remain flattered that he had to use a name that we created, rather
>> than come up with one himself.
>
> Flattered? I would come up with something witty to say here,
> but I'll just be blunt: you *FAIL*.
>
> Oh wait! I just registered RogerMaynardBlowzGoatz.com! I'll
> post some pictures of you (and you and you and you and you) on it caught
> in the act with a couple goats using some lotion from the Body Shop!
Hehe! Hey, I just registered RealtoMargarinoSucksDonkeys.org! Plenty of
pics to put on there as well... This should be fun!
r...@lewpitcherstealsdomains.com
pgp trash troll delete
cordially, as always,
rm