Driving me nucking futs! 13.37 video.
cybr...@gmail.com
Dan C
This has been discussed *AT* *LENGTH* right here in this newsgroup,
within the past week. No need to repeat it all. Go find the thread, I
believe it was orignated by "notbob".
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Ralph Spitzner
> within the past week. No need to repeat it all. Go find the thread, I
> believe it was orignated by "notbob".
>
He's probably bored with the repeats on TV :-P
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This is known issue. On my machine, I have (partially) solved it by
adding "vga=0x317" to /etc/lilo.conf. YMMV. Still, the console becomes
unusable after X is started.
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notbob
I just went through all this. Everything, including consoles, was
1600x1200 res. In a NUTSHELL:
I fixed the consoles res by adding video=800x600 to the /etc/lilo.conf
file, line 6. It now looks like this:
append="vt.default_utf0 video=800x600"
(NOTE TO Dan C: It doesn't like "vga=")
...change it and then run lilo command as root.
My desktop was still hosed and when I startx'd to fluxbox, all my
consoles went away, and X always crashed when I tried to exit. So, I
ran xorgsetup, as root, and let it generate a new /etx/X11/xorg.conf
file. This still gave me 1600x1200 res desktop, so I added this line
to my xorg.conf file:
Modes "1024x768"
....so it now looks like this:
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" <--- inserted line
EndSubSection
Insert the line indicating your choice of res mode into whichever
Depth SubSection you've stipulated. You can indicate multiple mode
resolutions if you want to.
That's it. All problems gone, works like a champ.
Install flash and mplayer plug-ins for your browser and you should be
good to go.
nb
notbob
>> with 13.1, but solved it. WTF?
>
> This is known issue. On my machine, I have (partially) solved it by
> adding "vga=0x317" to /etc/lilo.conf. YMMV. Still, the console becomes
> unusable after X is started.
See my "NUTSHELL" reply to OP for full solution.
nb
cybr...@gmail.com
All I want to do is have plain old VGA console, not FB or X. With a large monitor I don't need glasses to write, and when I want X I can use my notebook or my son's machine. On occasion I will use X on this but rarely. BTW, I tried KDE and XFCE and they were trashed also.
I have been with Slackware since the beginning and will drop it when my face hits the keyboard...
Aaron W. Hsu
> Thanx to all who offered help, however, the geek in me wants to know wtf
> is going on, why the very same lilo.conf on the very same machine with
> identical hdds don't act the same. (I just change the SATA cable from
> one hdd to the other. Is it the fault of the nVidia or have changes
> been made to the stock kernel that break it? Should I just get another
> video card and disable the onboard?
See the CHANGES and HINTS file that comes with 13.37. That explains it
fairly succinctly. Basically, the Linux developers decided it would be a
good idea to require FB to be enabled, more or less. It's possible to
disable it, but then X doesn't work, and so forth. There was some set of
kernel parameters I added that allowed me to disable the framebuffer, but
I don't know where they are now. If you don't use X on that machine, then
you should be able to disable it without any ill effects.
Aaron W. Hsu
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notbob
> It should have [...] "ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THAT?" messages.
That would be M$ Windows. Have you tried Ubuntu?
nb
Richard Herbert
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notbob
> I'm one of those "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" guys. Profuse
> apologies. I'm too damn old to change.
nonsense. Glad you finally got it straightened out. Now, it's time
to fix your newsreader situation.
Your post, as read by my simple CLI newsreader (slrn), was one huge
long single line, which I had to toggle 'wrap' to even read. It then
became a single 9 line paragraph that I had to spend way too much time
editing to par down and assign proper quote characters. I don't know
what G2 is, but it appears to be an android app, plus yer posting thru
google.groups. In short, your newsreader is waaaay beyond "broke", a
kluge upon another kluge, and damn near useless. Certainly a PIA for
anyone trying to read/reply. Please, "fix it". ;)
nb
Theodore Heise
> On 2011-09-13, cybr...@gmail.com <cybr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm one of those "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" guys. Profuse
>> apologies. I'm too damn old to change.
> huge long single line, which I had to toggle 'wrap' to even
> read. It then became a single 9 line paragraph that I had to
> spend way too much time editing to par down and assign proper
> quote characters.
just fine for me, using 0.9.8.1.
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notbob
> What's wrong with "Justify" (^J)? Wraps with quote characters
> just fine for me, using 0.9.8.1.
No such animal in slrn. Are you referring to an editor function and
are you using the default jed editor or perhaps you've changed it to
vi(m). I use emacs and have no such function (that I know of). Emacs
will usually automatically reset quote marks when reformating a
paragraph, but not when the original article has a single unwrapped
line like I'm seeing. BTW, not the only time. I jes ran across
another incidence of this long unwrapped line from another poster in
another group and it too was G2 client thru google groups. I'd
certainly LIKE to have such a function to deal with this unwrapped
line. Otherwise I'm jes gonna hafta go back to KFing everything from
GGs, again. ;)
nb
Ivan Shmakov
>>>>> On 2011-09-14, Theodore Heise <th...@heise.nu> wrote:
>> What's wrong with "Justify" (^J)? Wraps with quote characters
>> just fine for me, using 0.9.8.1.
> Say what?
> No such animal in slrn. Are you referring to an editor function and
> are you using the default jed editor or perhaps you've changed it to
> vi(m). I use emacs and have no such function (that I know of).
Gnus/Emacs has W w (in Summary buffer) to reformat the
paragraphs of the article being viewed. I've used SLRN way too
long ago, and don't remember whether it has (or had) anything
like this.
> Emacs will usually automatically reset quote marks when reformating a
> paragraph, but not when the original article has a single unwrapped
> line like I'm seeing.
Huh? Before M-q:
> evhapha ghirki myfsi lybju disash gikvek mongiv weki iokavsu foyhen awyo thwa whie oijo yifjep omdeynu nupiphy sywyit
After M-q:
> evhapha ghirki myfsi lybju disash gikvek mongiv weki iokavsu foyhen
> awyo thwa whie oijo yifjep omdeynu nupiphy sywyit
Anywhere with (setq comment-start "> ") (as in
M-x message-mode.)
[…]
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Ivan Shmakov
> As it turned out, it was an easy thing to add "nomodeset" and get my
> VGA screen back.
I haven't tried it, but thanks anyway! Doesn't it look like a
worthwhile addition to the FAQ?
Theodore Heise
> On 2011-09-14, Theodore Heise <th...@heise.nu> wrote:
>
>> What's wrong with "Justify" (^J)? Wraps with quote characters
>> just fine for me, using 0.9.8.1.
>
> Say what?
>
> No such animal in slrn. Are you referring to an editor function
> and are you using the default jed editor or perhaps you've
> changed it to vi(m).
I'm using pico (editor for Pine), with the following line in my
.slrnrc:
set editor_command "pico -z -t -r66 -Q \"> \" %s"
The built-in function to re-wrap quoted text is one of the things
I really like about pico/Pine.
notbob
> Anywhere with (setq comment-start "> ") (as in
> M-x message-mode.)
I added that setq line to my ~/.emacs file and it works like a champ.
I knew emacs could do it, it was jes a case of learning how.
nb
Chick Tower
> I jes ran across another incidence of this long unwrapped line
> from another poster in another group and it too was G2 client thru
> google groups. I'd certainly LIKE to have such a function to deal
> with this unwrapped line.
Slackware 13.0.
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notbob
> On 2011-09-14, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
>> I jes ran across another incidence of this long unwrapped line
>> from another poster in another group and it too was G2 client thru
>> google groups. I'd certainly LIKE to have such a function to deal
>> with this unwrapped line.
>
> Try "w". It toggles word wrap on and off in slrn-0.9.9p1-i486-2 in
> Slackware 13.0.
get proper wrap/quotes when replying (followup) to said post via my
emacs editor. Ivan's tip for a lisp entry in my ~/.emacs file did the
trick.
I'm still tweaking my new leet install. You'll notice I jes
re-established my sig file. ;)
nb
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N1ALD
Hey, it's ME. I set up PAN here and checked out my posts. Yeah, the
text does not wrap in PAN either. Google news sux, but I like that it
has posts archived back many years. SLRN is being quite obstinate, but
hopefully online soon, since I don't really like to use X too much.
notbob
> has posts archived back many years. SLRN is being quite obstinate, but
> hopefully online soon, since I don't really like to use X too much.
you don't have an ~/.slrnrc file, copy/rename the longer /etc/slrn.rc
file to your home dir and make a few edits. I find putting this line
in ~/bash_profile to work better for setting your news server:
export NNTPSERVER="your.newsserver"
Then edit you preferred editor line and names lines. If you need
password, etc, to connect with your server, edit the nnrpaccess line:
nnrpaccess "your.newsserver" "username" "password"
Don't forget to remove the comment characters (%).
N1ALD
with the the free news server I am using (teranews.com). I'm sure I'll
figure it out. I am an old SLRN fan, in fact a John Davis fan, I use JED
for all my writing. At 65 years old, I figure I am lucky to be able to
deal with Linux at all! I will go back to manual typewriters, card
files, and legal pads before I go back to windoze
.
notbob
> Yeah, I've done all this, but to no avail. I think it has more to do
> with the the free news server I am using (teranews.com). I'm sure I'll
> figure it out. I am an old SLRN fan, in fact a John Davis fan, I use JED
> for all my writing. At 65 years old, I figure I am lucky to be able to
> deal with Linux at all! I will go back to manual typewriters, card
> files, and legal pads before I go back to windoze.
Amen.
I can relate, being only a couple years younger, myself. I find when
I'm having probs like yours ...and I have.... it pays to go back over
what you've edited and take a detailed look. One spelling error or
barely noticeable quotation mark omission will hose the entire effort.
For example, did you remove the dot in ~/slrn.rc? Sounds like just
such a minor oversight might be the case, if you've succeeded in
getting pan working. pan is so much like slrn, pan actually puts its
own score entries in slrn's ~/News/Score file, if one exists.
It's morning! Hava cuppa joe and take a fresh look. ;)
N1ALD
another news server for comparison. Anyway, I have an old GF driving up
from NYC (I'm divorced and live on Cape Cod) and the cuppa joe will
probably be a pint of Guiness or IPA, along with tapas.
HAND %^)
notbob
> I can't see a problem with any of the files. I think maybe I'll try
> another news server for comparison.
http://www.individual.net/
A miserly buck per month and flawlessly impeccable service.
> Anyway, I have an old GF driving up from NYC (I'm divorced and live
> on Cape Cod)
> and the cuppa joe will
> probably be a pint of Guiness or IPA, along with tapas.
on this glorious sunny Sunday morning. Good luck.