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Glenn Becker

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Apr 21, 2003, 11:23:28 AM4/21/03
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I recently purchased a new(ish) laptop and slapped Slack 9 on it.
Tried out ReiserFS and everything, waaa-hooo. Was truly happy with
performance and pretty much everything, but since this is a desktop
replacement, I pulled my .fetchmailrc file off the (Debian) desktop
and stuffed it in the new lappie and tried to pull mail down off the
net.

It didn't work. Even though mail fetching had worked on the desktop
for nigh onto 2 years, suddenly I was getting an authentication error.
My password was apparently not working. Emailed my host: they
confirmed I was using the right password & told me they couldn't be
much help with fetchmail (naturally?).

I looked at the .fetchmailrc file 429 times, trying to catch the typo
I figured I had made. Had an impulse to post to AOLS. Resisted it,
*knowing somehow* that this was a simple thing & that I would either
a) figure it out right after posting and feel idiotic or b) think
first, and learn something from it. I went and read the fetchmail
manual, selectively, anyway. Found nothing. Fought off the impulse to
post here several times.

Then, aha, I Googled. And I found the answer: turns out fetchmail now
defaults to cram-md5 authentication, so (even though turning on the -v
flag did not display any hint toward this) my password was not doing
the trick. I had to use --auth password on the command line. Voila!

I'm not preening: it's not like I figured the problem out myself,
after all. I just read "DON'T TELL ME TO RTFM" here so often, or "gee,
so and so, you are really snotty to tell [me|that newbie|people in
general] to RTFM or go and Google, why don't you just give them the
answer??" or words to that effect. The thing is, RTFM + Googling
*works*. Thinking first works. Digging out the answer works. Most of
the time, anyway.

Thinking is good.

Best,

Glenn Becker

Bryan

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Apr 21, 2003, 12:21:52 PM4/21/03
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On 21 Apr 2003 08:23:28 -0700
burnin...@burningclown.com (Glenn Becker) Wrote:

> I'm not preening: it's not like I figured the problem out myself,
> after all. I just read "DON'T TELL ME TO RTFM" here so often, or "gee,
> so and so, you are really snotty to tell [me|that newbie|people in
> general] to RTFM or go and Google, why don't you just give them the
> answer??" or words to that effect. The thing is, RTFM + Googling
> *works*. Thinking first works. Digging out the answer works. Most of
> the time, anyway.
>
> Thinking is good.
>
> Best,
>
> Glenn Becker

And dont you feel better for it!

--
Homer no function well beer without
- Homer J Simpson

Faux_Pseudo

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Apr 21, 2003, 2:54:29 PM4/21/03
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_.--- Glenn Becker spoke in alt.os.linux.slackware --------._

> *works*. Thinking first works. Digging out the answer works. Most of
> the time, anyway.

Here, my humble audience, we have another unsolicited testimonial of
the power of Bozo. We did not need to lay on hands, pray, or even
require that the happy user post for help. The answer came to him in
a flash of divine insight. If you Google you will get your answer.

Now ask your self, is Glenn happy?
Did Glenn get what he wanted?
Did he bug us?
Did he Google?
Did he RTFM?
Are we all better off for his actions?

Glen Becker we salute you and your efforts to think first and Google
second.

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Bob Dobbs ns.sympatico.ca>

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Apr 21, 2003, 6:29:19 PM4/21/03
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Faux_Pseudo wrote:

Done like a true slacker.

Faux_Pseudo

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Apr 21, 2003, 7:52:25 PM4/21/03
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> Done like a true slacker.

Anyone posting with the name Bob Dobbs should be most carefull to trim
there posts.

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+Cibao+

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Apr 21, 2003, 8:31:23 PM4/21/03
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Faux_Pseudo tempted the fates in alt.os.linux.slackware
by rushing in here and proclaiming the following to be true:

> _.--- Bob Dobbs spoke in alt.os.linux.slackware --------._
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>> Done like a true slacker.
>
> Anyone posting with the name Bob Dobbs should be most carefull to trim
> there posts.

And not use Knode to do it. ;)

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Wild Wizard

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Apr 22, 2003, 6:45:01 AM4/22/03
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+Cibao+ wrote:

> And not use Knode to do it. ;)

oi

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the picture. Hardly any sets of 10K words can be adequately described
with pictures.

+Cibao+

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Apr 22, 2003, 1:06:23 PM4/22/03
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Wild Wizard tempted the fates in alt.os.linux.slackware


by rushing in here and proclaiming the following to be true:

> +Cibao+ wrote:


>
>> And not use Knode to do it. ;)
>
> oi

oi oi. ;)
We *will* convert you one of these days...

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MadDairyFarmer

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Apr 22, 2003, 2:43:09 PM4/22/03
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>>> And not use Knode to do it. ;)
>>
>> oi
>
> oi oi. ;)
> We *will* convert you one of these days...
>
Only if you can catch us. :)

"Scotty give me all the power you can"
<Scottish Accent>
" Aye aye Captain, but i dunno how long she'll last"
</Scottish Accent"

And as the subject line states. I will agree 100%

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With Regards
Steve Balchin
Slackware-9.rc2 Kernel 2.4.20
Registered Linux User #290607

Realto Margarino

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Apr 22, 2003, 7:05:55 PM4/22/03
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+Cibao+ <Ci...@softhome.net> trolled:

> Wild Wizard tempted the fates in alt.os.linux.slackware
> by rushing in here and proclaiming the following to be true:

Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! Is that ever funny! And soooo original
too!

> oi oi. ;)
> We *will* convert you one of these days...

Who is "we?" Hmm, troll-boy? You and your cats?

cordially, even to trolls,

rm

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