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Bar

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Jul 3, 2008, 4:35:13 PM7/3/08
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Looking for fastest Slackware 12.1 mirror or bittorrant.

Thanks,

Bar

notbob

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Jul 3, 2008, 4:45:48 PM7/3/08
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On 2008-07-03, Bar <cdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looking for fastest Slackware 12.1 mirror or bittorrant.

http://www.slackware.com/getslack/

Bar

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Jul 3, 2008, 5:11:26 PM7/3/08
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> http://www.slackware.com/getslack/

Yeah, thanks, but I have tried a few of the mirrors and they are pretty
slow - 30-40KB/s

That is why I posted here and asked about the FASTEST mirrors.

Bar

loki harfagr

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Jul 3, 2008, 5:41:25 PM7/3/08
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DVD order

> Bar

Dot

notbob

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Jul 3, 2008, 5:52:11 PM7/3/08
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On 2008-07-03, Bar <cdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Yeah, thanks, but I have tried a few of the mirrors and they are pretty
> slow - 30-40KB/s


Try ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net using wget. I'm getting up 120 K/s,
right now. If you aren't, try late at night or in the wee hours. If you
still are slow, it sucks to be you.

nb

Leon Whyte

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Jul 3, 2008, 5:58:41 PM7/3/08
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I just tried:
ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-12.1-iso
I show 500KB/s

--
Leon
A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without mustard.
< running Linux >

Simon Sibbez

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Jul 3, 2008, 6:01:40 PM7/3/08
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Bar wrote:

> Has the slackware usenet group descended to this level of support?
> (This level meaning less than zero)

> Bar

There has never been a Bar service in here that I know of.

HTH,
Simon

Bar

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Jul 3, 2008, 6:05:54 PM7/3/08
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Leon Whyte wrote:

> notbob wrote:
>> On 2008-07-03, Bar <cdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yeah, thanks, but I have tried a few of the mirrors and they are pretty
>>> slow - 30-40KB/s
>>
>>
>> Try ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net using wget. I'm getting up 120 K/s,
>> right now. If you aren't, try late at night or in the wee hours. If you
>> still are slow, it sucks to be you.
>>
>> nb
> I just tried:
> ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-12.1-iso
> I show 500KB/s

That's what I am looking for.

Thanks Leon, you're the man!

Bar

notbob

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Jul 3, 2008, 6:09:54 PM7/3/08
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On 2008-07-03, Leon Whyte <leon....@gmail.com> wrote:

> ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-12.1-iso

WOW! Sucks to be me. ;)

nb

Bar

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Jul 3, 2008, 6:22:22 PM7/3/08
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Simon Sibbez wrote:

That was funny.

Bar

Two Ravens

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Jul 3, 2008, 6:50:28 PM7/3/08
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Bar wrote:

> Has the slackware usenet group descended to this level of support?
> (This level meaning less than zero)

You are trying to find the fastest download for an operating system that
others have constructed. Whilst there is no obligation to buy what you
download, it would not come amiss to at least make a donation, or even
take out a subscription, it costs $32·99 for the CD set or $39.95 for
the DVD. There is a certain degree of after sales support as well.
vide:
http://store.slackware.com/cgi-bin/store/search?id=vCPH8uVM:mv_pc=50
--
Two Ravens
"...hit the squirrel..."

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lore

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Jul 4, 2008, 11:24:39 AM7/4/08
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i always use http://slackware.osuosl.org/, my download speed is usally
around 1MByte/s.

Bar

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Jul 4, 2008, 12:05:34 PM7/4/08
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Two Ravens wrote:

I donate $100 every year but it wouldn't occur to me to bug Patrick about a
fast mirror.

Bar

Bar

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Jul 4, 2008, 12:06:11 PM7/4/08
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~kurt wrote:

> Bar <cdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Has the slackware usenet group descended to this level of support? (This
>> level meaning less than zero)
>

> You get what you pay for I guess.
>
> Usenet is not a support service, btw. You people who demand such service
> - words fail me....
>
> - Kurt

What is the matter with you? ? ?

Bar

loki harfagr

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Jul 4, 2008, 12:51:20 PM7/4/08
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he's just another spirit on parole, aren't we all?

Two Ravens

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Jul 4, 2008, 1:02:32 PM7/4/08
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Bar wrote:

> I donate $100 every year but it wouldn't occur to me to bug Patrick
> about a fast mirror.

Then why not donate $60·05, take out a subscription to the DVD, and you
won't need a mirror?

Bar

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Jul 4, 2008, 1:26:05 PM7/4/08
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Two Ravens wrote:

> Bar wrote:
>
>> I donate $100 every year but it wouldn't occur to me to bug Patrick
>> about a fast mirror.
>
> Then why not donate $60·05, take out a subscription to the DVD, and you
> won't need a mirror?

Why take out a subscription when I use -current?

Further, it must occur even to you that $100 without a purchase helps
Patrick more than $60 for a DVD and shipping.

Thanks for pimping Slackware but you got the wrong guy. I have been using
Slackware commercially since 1995.

Bar

Bar

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Jul 4, 2008, 1:43:32 PM7/4/08
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Bar wrote:

FYI - I used to sync to slackware.at because it used to be fast and
frequently updated.

Unfortunately, something has happened there and it is now neither fast nor
frequently updated.

I would ask what happened but I am betting nobody here has a fucking clue.

Bar

Kees Theunissen

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Jul 4, 2008, 2:01:14 PM7/4/08
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Things depend on where you live.
At my place ftp.nluug.nl (a.k.a. ftp.surfnet.nl) is realy fast.
Lets's try to download a not too small file from there:

kees@pcict11:~$ wget
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/slackware/slackware-12.1/source/k/linux-2.6.24.5.tar.bz2
--19:47:31--
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/slackware/slackware-12.1/source/k/linux-2.6.24.5.tar.bz2
=> `linux-2.6.24.5.tar.bz2'
Resolving ftp.nluug.nl... 192.87.102.42, 192.87.102.43,
2001:610:1:80aa:192:87:102:42, ...
Connecting to ftp.nluug.nl|192.87.102.42|:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done. ==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD
/pub/os/Linux/distr/slackware/slackware-12.1/source/k ... done.
==> PASV ... done. ==> RETR linux-2.6.24.5.tar.bz2 ... done.
Length: 46,739,665 (45M) (unauthoritative)

100%[=====================================================================================================>]
46,739,665 40.46M/s

19:47:32 (40.43 MB/s) - `linux-2.6.24.5.tar.bz2' saved [46739665]

Hmm, not bad. 40 Megabytes per second.
This server is located on "surfnet"; the high speed network that
connects the dutch universities and research organizations.
I have a 1 Gbit/s uplink to "surfnet". YMMV :-)


Regards,

Kees.

--
Kees Theunissen.

Bar

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Jul 4, 2008, 2:30:36 PM7/4/08
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Kees Theunissen wrote:

I'm impressed.

Unfortunately, here in Canada we have no surfnet, more's the pity.

Bar

~kurt

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Jul 4, 2008, 2:34:44 PM7/4/08
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Bar <cdb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ~kurt wrote:
>>
>> Usenet is not a support service, btw. You people who demand such service
>> - words fail me....
>
> What is the matter with you? ? ?

What is wrong with you? You didn't get the answer you were looking for, and
got all pissy about it. You want to know the FASTEST download, as though
someone has taken the time to check every mirror. You got a couple useful
responses regarding personal experiences (some of which were not acceptable
to you), and a few responses that were of no help because they didn't address
the question you asked (just ignore those). I'm pointing out that you have no
grounds to be bitching or making demands.

- Kurt

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Jim Diamond

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Jul 4, 2008, 2:55:26 PM7/4/08
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On 2008-07-04, Bar <cdb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Kees Theunissen wrote:
>>
>> Hmm, not bad. 40 Megabytes per second.
>> This server is located on "surfnet"; the high speed network that
>> connects the dutch universities and research organizations.
>> I have a 1 Gbit/s uplink to "surfnet". YMMV :-)
>
> I'm impressed.
>
> Unfortunately, here in Canada we have no surfnet, more's the pity.

We have CA*net. You might not have access to it, but it's there.

Mind you, as I would infer from Kees' message, the average Dutch
person doesn't have access to surfnet.

Jim

Bar

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Jul 4, 2008, 3:00:18 PM7/4/08
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~kurt wrote:

I did get some excellent answers, thanks to those who bothered to answer
seriously.

I got a couple standard RTFM answers, I mean there are always a few - still
I wasn't snotty.

Finally I received your reply which was deliberately obnoxious.

So you see, nothing you have stated is true.

Fuck off Kurt - you are useless. ;)

Bar

Kees Theunissen

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Jul 4, 2008, 6:18:26 PM7/4/08
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That depends on your definition of "having access".
The SURF Foundation isn't an ISP and doesn't provide internet
connectivity to end users. But surfnet isn't an isolated network.
It's part of the global internet and it's pretty well connected
to the rest of the world (see for instance
http://www.surfnet.nl/en/netwerk/Pages/external.aspx). And that
makes this server (ftp.nlluug.nl or ftp.surfnet.nl) a good
mirror for the average Dutch person - I'm sure it's fast enough
to completely fill an ADSL line regardless of the ISP in use.
Customers of Xs4all -the biggest Dutch ISP- should probably use
dl.xs4all.nl (or download.xs4all.nl) though, not because it's
faster but because it won't be slower and it will reduce the
provider's external traffic.

Dan C

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Jul 4, 2008, 7:01:49 PM7/4/08
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:26:05 +0000, Bar wrote:

> Thanks for pimping Slackware but you got the wrong guy. I have been using
> Slackware commercially since 1995.

And yet you still don't know which mirror to use? LOL


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Dan C

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Jul 4, 2008, 7:04:19 PM7/4/08
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:43:32 +0000, Bar wrote:

> FYI - I used to sync to slackware.at because it used to be fast and
> frequently updated.
>
> Unfortunately, something has happened there and it is now neither fast nor
> frequently updated.
>
> I would ask what happened but I am betting nobody here has a fucking clue.

Well, you certainly appear to be quite clueless, and an asshole to boot.

Look, n00b, your question can't be answered anyway. A mirror that is fast
for me might not be fast for you, due to location differences. You didn't
know that?

Fuck off, dickmunch.

John K. Herreshoff

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Jul 4, 2008, 8:10:09 PM7/4/08
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Dan C wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:43:32 +0000, Bar wrote:
>
>> FYI - I used to sync to slackware.at because it used to be fast and
>> frequently updated.
>>
>> Unfortunately, something has happened there and it is now neither fast
>> nor frequently updated.
>>
>> I would ask what happened but I am betting nobody here has a fucking
>> clue.
>
> Well, you certainly appear to be quite clueless, and an asshole to boot.
>
> Look, n00b, your question can't be answered anyway. A mirror that is fast
> for me might not be fast for you, due to location differences. You didn't
> know that?
>
> Fuck off, dickmunch.
>
>

It's back. Yetch.

:-(

John.

(plonk, but you knew that)

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notbob

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Jul 4, 2008, 9:36:35 PM7/4/08
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On 2008-07-04, lore <lore...@gmail.com> wrote:

> i always use http://slackware.osuosl.org/, my download speed is usally
> around 1MByte/s.

For what? ..md5 files? What the hell good is that?

"If you're reading this on ftp.slackware.com, you will find that the
ISO images are not here. This is because we simply don't have the
bandwidth at ftp.slackware.com to provide ISO images."

40K/s is better than 0K/s for an iso file.

nb

Grant

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Jul 4, 2008, 10:24:50 PM7/4/08
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I'm happy with 32k/s from rsync mirrors...

Grant.
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http://bugsplatter.mine.nu/

notbob

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Jul 4, 2008, 10:35:27 PM7/4/08
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On 2008-07-05, Grant <g_r_a...@dodo.com.au> wrote:

> I'm happy with 32k/s from rsync mirrors...

Better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick or 2.6K/s from dial-up!

nb

Grant

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Jul 5, 2008, 12:29:24 AM7/5/08
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Bugger, I don't even think of dialup speeds since I switched to ADSL in 2004 ;)

I use wget '--limit-rate=32k' or rsync --bwlimit=32 to make large downloads
have a restricted bandwidth. Works very well... I got 512k/128k(bps) ASDSL.

Grant.
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http://bugsplatter.mine.nu/

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Leon Whyte

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Jul 5, 2008, 1:08:20 AM7/5/08
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Leon Whyte wrote:
> notbob wrote:
>> On 2008-07-03, Bar <cdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yeah, thanks, but I have tried a few of the mirrors and they are pretty
>>> slow - 30-40KB/s
>>
>>
>> Try ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net using wget. I'm getting up 120 K/s,
>> right now. If you aren't, try late at night or in the wee hours. If you
>> still are slow, it sucks to be you.
>>
>> nb
> I just tried:
> ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-12.1-iso
> I show 500KB/s
>

I just tried this with gFTP and got 300KB/s

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< running Linux >

Grant

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Jul 5, 2008, 1:26:19 AM7/5/08
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On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:26:43 +1000 (EST), Res <r...@ausics.net> wrote:

>32kb/s?? Pacific seems to have a good mirror...
>
>slackware-12.1-install-dvd.iso
>Read 512946 of 2097151 KiB of data, 35621 KiB/sec, ETA 44 sec.
>Read 988162 of 2097151 KiB of data, 33690 KiB/sec, ETA 32 sec.
>
>whole dvd image took me 49 seconds

Yeah well, some enjoy broader broadband than I do :)

Grant.
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http://bugsplatter.mine.nu/

Helmut Hullen

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Jul 5, 2008, 1:18:00 AM7/5/08
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Hallo, Leon,

Du meintest am 03.07.08:


"bittorrent-console" runs with 300 kB/s (ok - 2 parallel downloads ...)

Viele Gruesse
Helmut

"Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

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Jim Diamond

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Jul 5, 2008, 10:36:59 AM7/5/08
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On 2008-07-04, Kees Theunissen <theu...@rijnh.nl> wrote:
> Jim Diamond wrote:
>> On 2008-07-04, Bar <cdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Kees Theunissen wrote:
>>>> Hmm, not bad. 40 Megabytes per second.
>>>> This server is located on "surfnet"; the high speed network that
>>>> connects the dutch universities and research organizations.
>>>> I have a 1 Gbit/s uplink to "surfnet". YMMV :-)
>>> I'm impressed.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, here in Canada we have no surfnet, more's the pity.
>>
>> We have CA*net. You might not have access to it, but it's there.
>>
>> Mind you, as I would infer from Kees' message, the average Dutch
>> person doesn't have access to surfnet.
>
> That depends on your definition of "having access".
> The SURF Foundation isn't an ISP and doesn't provide internet
> connectivity to end users.
Nor (AFAIK) does CA*net.

> But surfnet isn't an isolated network. It's part of the global
> internet and it's pretty well connected to the rest of the world
> (see for instance
> http://www.surfnet.nl/en/netwerk/Pages/external.aspx). And that
> makes this server (ftp.nlluug.nl or ftp.surfnet.nl) a good mirror
> for the average Dutch person - I'm sure it's fast enough to
> completely fill an ADSL line regardless of the ISP in use.
> Customers of Xs4all -the biggest Dutch ISP- should probably use
> dl.xs4all.nl (or download.xs4all.nl) though, not because it's faster
> but because it won't be slower and it will reduce the provider's
> external traffic.
Huh. My (admittedly imperfect) understanding of CA*net is that it
doesn't handle too much traffic coming from or going to commercial
sites. For example, if I want to send a packet from my university to
the other side of the country, it could get routed across the country
via CA*net and then jump out to commercial networks at the other end,
but what actually happens is that the packet goes out our commercial
connection and makes its way across the country via commercial
networks.

That could be a local policy decision, but I think that is the overall
CA*net policy.

As your web page points out, half of the traffic is external. But
since the web page talks about other (international) research networks
(such as CA*net, altho that one is not mentioned), I wonder how much
of the traffic goes to commercial ISPs.

Cheers.

Jim

notbob

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Jul 5, 2008, 12:14:47 PM7/5/08
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On 2008-07-05, Grant <g_r_a...@dodo.com.au> wrote:

> Bugger, I don't even think of dialup speeds since I switched to ADSL in 2004 ;)

Yeah, I had cable for the last 10 yrs, but recently moved to rural America.
Tried 2 dial-ups, both 2.6K/s for extended anything, till I dicovered I
could get DSL. Those were dark days.

nb

Grant

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Jul 5, 2008, 6:14:00 PM7/5/08
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On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:50:41 +1000 (EST), Res <r...@ausics.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 5 Jul 2008, Grant wrote:
>
>> Yeah well, some enjoy broader broadband than I do :)
>

>:) are you on 256/64 ? you must be to get 32 K else you got problems,
>well if you use pacnet and get that speed you got problems

No, I'm on 512/128 ADSL, but bandwidth limit large transfers so they don't
interfere with other access -- I'm happy with a DVD .iso taking 40 hours ;)

Besides the ISPs here define 512kpbs as total data + framing so we lose the
1/7 ATM framing bandwidth -- lucky to see 56kByte/s raw download rate.

Grant.
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Sylvain Robitaille

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Jul 7, 2008, 3:48:40 PM7/7/08
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Jim Diamond wrote:

> ... For example, if I want to send a packet from my university to


> the other side of the country, it could get routed across the country
> via CA*net and then jump out to commercial networks at the other end,
> but what actually happens is that the packet goes out our commercial
> connection and makes its way across the country via commercial
> networks.

CAnet is not intended for transmission of commercial traffic. If,
for example, you wanted to send your above-mentioned packet to another
CAnet connected site at the other end of the country (say University
of Victoria, for example), then it would travel the whole way on the
CAnet network. Traffic on CAnet is much faster (and crosses fewer
network boundaries) than on commercial networks.

Consider commercial networks to be analogous to publically accessible
highways. In that sense, CAnet is an express toll road, available only
from specific connector roads (ie. specific institutions that meet the
criteria to be connected).

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Sylvain Robitaille s...@alcor.concordia.ca

Network and Systems analyst Concordia University
Instructional & Information Technology Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Jim Diamond

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Jul 7, 2008, 4:29:13 PM7/7/08
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On 2008-07-07, Sylvain Robitaille <s...@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:
> Jim Diamond wrote:
>
>> ... For example, if I want to send a packet from my university to
>> the other side of the country, it could get routed across the country
>> via CA*net and then jump out to commercial networks at the other end,
>> but what actually happens is that the packet goes out our commercial
>> connection and makes its way across the country via commercial
>> networks.
>
> CAnet is not intended for transmission of commercial traffic. If,
> for example, you wanted to send your above-mentioned packet to another
> CAnet connected site at the other end of the country (say University
> of Victoria, for example), then it would travel the whole way on the
> CAnet network. Traffic on CAnet is much faster (and crosses fewer
> network boundaries) than on commercial networks.
Indeed. What I know about CA*net was from working on a project with
real-time requirements where we didn't have the time to lollygag
around the continent on commercial networks.

It's interesting that the Dutch allow (encourage?) commercial traffic
on their research network. Maybe with the compact size of the country
they can afford to share the bandwidth without clogging up things for
research applications.

Cheers.
Jim

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