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erased

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Apr 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/24/00
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Probably not gonna get much help in a GUI! Linux users tend to be more
command line driven people. I might be able to help you if you are
interested in command line...
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"Mike Easter" <see_m...@for.my.address> wrote in message
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> 'Nuther newbie here.
>
> I am commandline incompetent. [Well, almost completely.] I'm currently
> running [no, diddling with] Mandrake 7.0.2 on a box dual booted with Win98
> via lilo.
>
> I want to use DrakConf - Network section - to help me configure for my
cable
> modem, network hub, 2 computers, 2 ip addies from roadrunner, to be able
to
> logon with Mandrake 7.0.2's Netscape 4.7 and do so with some security. I
> have puttered around in the help sections there, and find my comprehension
> of networking to be less than the writer of the help files assumed.
>
> I'm pretty sure I left out any networking function when I installed
Mandrake
> with the DrakX installer. I knew I didn't know how to handle linux
securing
> the box, and I use Win98, IE/OE 5.01 for my work on the 'net. So, I'm
also
> not very familiar with where to find things in Netscape.
>
> In Win, setting up for my cable modem goes like this:
> Network: tcp/ip: obtain ip address automatically; WINS: disable
[therefore
> no dhcp]; DNS: disable, no ip bindings, no netbios. In IExplorer, there
> are, of course, no dialups. The LAN setting is automatically detect
> settings. I use netbeui for sharing.
>
> Currently, and probably fortunately, the only thing I can ping with the
> Mandrake console is localhost. I cannot ping the other computer or
anything
> else. I know what ip number the cableco has currently assigned the
Mandrake
> box from winipcfg's info, the cableco ip assignment is dynamic, but will
> stay for a long time, usually.
>
> Remember, please, I need my help to configure in the DrakConf gui [or
> similar] - the thought of manipulating little files w/ commandlines makes
me
> crazy. A set of step-by-step instructions starting at the Basic Host
> section of Network Configurator there would be wonderful. [I don't always
> need to be spoon-fed :-) ].
>
> I read the recent posts here from the thread: Network Card with Mandrake
> 7.0 - my abilities are less than that newbie. My card is a D-Link DE-528
> pci, Linux mis-recognizes as a Realtek 8029 [which doesn't cause Win a
> problem].
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> --
> Mike Easter
> ROT 13 zrnf...@fna.ee.pbz
>

White Lion

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Apr 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/25/00
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I got it set up by running the install cd. Only this time I selected
"upgrade" instead of install. I made sure to make all the same choices
except when it asked about networking. It figured things out for me and the
only thing that changed was the old CDRW bug (i.e. it sets up a cdrom2 with
a link in /dev to hdd when it should be a link to scd0).

This might get your mandrake box on the net but I haven't figured out any of
the servers yet.

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Mike Easter

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Apr 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/25/00
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"White Lion"
| "erased"

Thanks for the input. Maybe this would be a place to ask some dumb network
related questions. I'm not trying to deride Linux/unix systems; I just
don't understand these differences, and I have to work from my Win know-how.

When I run winipcfg, I get all sorts of information: DNS Servers, Adapter
address, ip address, subnet mask, default gateway, dhcp server - which
presumably was provided to win by the cableco & modem - well, not the
adapter address.

Does mandrake linux have a similar function - or - how can I use the above
information & plug it into DrakConf? What single imperative should I mind
to not accidentally give any permissions to my 'net connection? With Win,
my most important imperative is to not accidentally bind tcp/ip to any kind
of sharing.

Also, I've found some addl help for DrakConf at the Mandrake site at:
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/userguide/en/reference/005.html#51 Contrary
to that page's advice that I have access to Kppp under networking, I do not.
I suppose that since I do not have a dialup isp, that kppp is not of use to
me - maybe I declined something during installation. From looking at the
kppp screenshots, I don't think that installing kppp is going to help me
with my cable modem.

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Apr 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/25/00
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'ifconfig' is the command that will show you active network devices. You
have to be in root (command line) to run it. Get to root by bringing up a
terminal and typing 'su -'
'lsmod' will show you all the current kernel modules running and show if
they are being used or not. In the GUI look under DrakConf-Network
Conf.-Basic host info and hit the adaptor 1 tab...look in Kernel module and
see what module need running.

If that module isnt listed in 'lsmod' type 'insmod <module name(..ie
via-rhine)> next type 'ifconfig eth0 up'
this will activate the module.

That should get you going! I have a static IP so I have never tried with a
dymanic before, but I think that shoud work...At least it will config your
eth0!


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Mike Easter

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Apr 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/25/00
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"White Lion"

<clip>


I got it set up by running the install cd. Only this time I selected
"upgrade" instead of install. I made sure to make all the same choices
except when it asked about networking.

</clip>

That strategy works.


"erased"

<clip>


'ifconfig' is the command that will show you active network devices. You
have to be in root (command line) to run it. Get to root by bringing up a
terminal and typing 'su -'

</clip>

After re-running the Mandrake install as upgrade, my results with the
console commands of dmesg & ifconfig reflected the recognition of the
network card and the ip address provided by the cableco, just like winipcfg.

Then, when I go into DrakConf, I see the eth0 & my card, which turns out to
be called ne2k-pci, as a PCI NE2000 clone called Realtek 8029. So, DLink
DE-528 = Realtek 8029 = NE2000.

I can logon with Netscape & ping whatever I want. Now I have to learn how
to secure that box in Linux; of course, I'm planning on working in
DrakConfig.

Thanks, White Lion & erased for your helpful advice.

Mike Easter

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Apr 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/26/00
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I need some help securing my ports; hopefully I can do it in DrakConf. I
got more information than I know what to do with from:
http://www.cablemodemhelp.com/portscan.htm
http://secure-me.net/secureme
http://hackerwhacker.com/
especially HW.

Let's start with 21, 23, & 110; ftp, telnet, & pop3. From Linux
Administrator's Security Guide http://www.securityportal.com/lasg/ I gather
that I might be able to deal with these problems with configuration files &
utilities; such as etc/ inetd, services, & tcp wrappers.

How can I do this is DrakConf or similar?

lvegas

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Apr 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/26/00
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As root or su edit /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services. Just place a "#"
in front of the item you want closed. After done with /etc/inetd.conf
send it "killall -HUP inetd".

Lou

Mike Easter

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Apr 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/27/00
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DistributionWatch Review: Linux-Mandrake 7.0
http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/1697/1/

This was a very positive review about Mandrake 7 in which the author was
critical of the documentation: "Perfection, Except for the Documentation" -
especially "The omissions are actually startling; there are three tools
specific to Linux-Mandrake that are truly noteworthy (DrakX, DiskDrake, and
DrakConfig), and only one of them (DrakX) is discussed at length."

The review did not address the _very_ extensive help sections found "inside"
the function of DrakConfig. I'm still digesting that information. Maybe he
wished we could peruse more documentation before installing.

For example, I can now see where to control permissions & such for such
things as Telnet, FTP, & POP [not under networking, but LinuxConf]; but/
and, so far as I can understand at this stage, they seem to be denied [not
open?]; but I'm still learning in there and at Linux Administrator's
Security Guide Network security
http://www.securityportal.com/lasg/network/index.html

Mike Easter

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Apr 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/30/00
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"lvegas"

| Mike Easter wrote:
| >
| > I need some help securing my ports; hopefully I can do it in
DrakConf. I

| > Let's start with 21, 23, & 110; ftp, telnet, & pop3.


| > How can I do this is DrakConf or similar?

| | As root or su edit /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services. Just place a


"#"
| in front of the item you want closed. After done with /etc/inetd.conf
| send it "killall -HUP inetd".
|
| Lou

I understand some, but I need to understand more. I can find the file
inetd.conf and understand placement of # for commenting out the line.

I don't understand what is going on with:
<clip> After done with /etc/inetd.conf send it "killall -HUP inetd".
</clip>

Where can I read more about the purpose of this killall command and
where to put it [konsole?] after I modify the file?

Have searched on killall at mandrakeuser & read: Sometimes you want to
kill processes by name, for instance if they decide to haunt your box by
the dozen. In this case, use killall -[signal] [name]. Useful options to
killall are -i which asks for permission before it kills, and -w which
waits till the process is killed.

and a Netscape killall URL entry item.

Also: Is there any way I can train Netscape Messenger mail body to
accept pasting from the clipboard?

lvegas007

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Apr 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/30/00
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Mike Easter wrote:

> "lvegas"
>
> | Mike Easter wrote:
> | >
> | > I need some help securing my ports; hopefully I can do it in
> DrakConf. I
>
> | > Let's start with 21, 23, & 110; ftp, telnet, & pop3.
> | > How can I do this is DrakConf or similar?
>
> | | As root or su edit /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services. Just place a
> "#"
> | in front of the item you want closed. After done with /etc/inetd.conf
> | send it "killall -HUP inetd".
> |
> | Lou
>
> I understand some, but I need to understand more. I can find the file
> inetd.conf and understand placement of # for commenting out the line.
>
> I don't understand what is going on with:
> <clip> After done with /etc/inetd.conf send it "killall -HUP inetd".
> </clip>

This just stops the old configure and then restarts with the new configure.

>
> Where can I read more about the purpose of this killall command and
> where to put it [konsole?] after I modify the file?

You can search around at http://www.linuxdoc.org

>
>
> Have searched on killall at mandrakeuser & read: Sometimes you want to
> kill processes by name, for instance if they decide to haunt your box by
> the dozen. In this case, use killall -[signal] [name]. Useful options to
> killall are -i which asks for permission before it kills, and -w which
> waits till the process is killed.
>
> and a Netscape killall URL entry item.
>

You can also use kpm. It's a nice gui to kill processes.

>
> Also: Is there any way I can train Netscape Messenger mail body to
> accept pasting from the clipboard?

Just copy and paste the same way as in win. What I do is highlight the
selection and move to where I want to paste it to
and just press down on the wheel.

Mike Easter

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Apr 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/30/00
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Thanks for the other, still digesting.

"lvegas007"

<clip> Just copy and paste the same way as in win. What I do is


highlight the
selection and move to where I want to paste it to

and just press down on the wheel. </clip>

Two button mouse. Right click context menus work just fine for
cutnpaste in kde apps; nothing is there [paste is grayed] when I right
click in Netscape messenger mail body when I've put something into kde's
clipboard.


--
Mike Easter


lvegas007

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Apr 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/30/00
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Mike Easter wrote:

Do you have gpm running? Also try pressing both buttons down at the same
time.

lvegas


Armand...@firstplusbank.com

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May 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/2/00
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to make life easier, rather than trying too hard to digest the killall,
just execute the initscript that starts the inetd service
"/etc/rc.d/init.d/inet restart" to stop and restart the inetd daemon.

That what it's there for...

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