Pan Newsreader will not wrap text
d2e2
does not seem to have much documentation. And I have a issue with the way the composer wraps text. Each
time I try to post I get a warning saying that there are lines longer than 80 columns long. I don't know if this
is an issue with Pan itself or maybe it is something in the Gnome desktop configuration.
Does anyone know where I can get some info on setting the line width for the wrap function?
J G Miller
> Does anyone know where I can get some info on setting the line width
for
> the wrap function?
You should not post messages with lines longer than 80 characters, or as
some
say 76 characters, or as others say 72 characters.
But for posting URL links, in order to accommodate other readers who use
broken news readers who cannot cope with URLs wrapped over two lines,
you can unset the wrapping of posted text in the following manner.
When you post an article or followup an article, you will get a new
window headed "Post Article".
Mouse right button click on the Edit pull down menu (or use the key
combination ALT E) then mouse left button click on the menu item
Wrap Text
to remove the tick mark and deactivate automagic wrapping of composed
posting article text.
You will still receive the warning messages for lines longer than 80
characters though, and then you should click "Continue Anyway" in
violation of the 80 character limit protocol.
John F. Morse
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:32:15 +0000, d2e2 wrote:
>
>> columns long. I don't know if this is an issue with Pan itself or maybe
>> it is something in the Gnome desktop configuration.
>>
>
> the source and re-compiling.
>
> However, if you want your posts to be readable by most people, it is
> advisable to keep line length below the 80 char warning limit. I, for
> one, simply won't read a message is I have to scroll horizontally to read
> it.
>
That certainly is a nice attitude. It becomes your loss, nobody else's.
You could either learn to option your system and newsreader to wrap the
text in your window, or change to software that can do what *YOU* want
it to do.
Don't expect other people to drag you by the hand through YOUR Usenet
travels with a 640 x 480 CRT.
IOW, if YOU want the text wrapped, then wrap it. Be happy!
That will permit other people to click on links that aren't chopped up
at some disputable length.
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d2e2
> Yoss1960 wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:32:15 +0000, d2e2 wrote:
>>
>>> I try to post I get a warning saying that there are lines longer than
>>> 80 columns long. I don't know if this is an issue with Pan itself or
>>> maybe it is something in the Gnome desktop configuration.
>>>
>>>
>> It's Pan. It is possible to remove the warning, but that means
>> tweaking the source and re-compiling.
>>
>> However, if you want your posts to be readable by most people, it is
>> advisable to keep line length below the 80 char warning limit. I, for
>> one, simply won't read a message is I have to scroll horizontally to
>> read it.
>>
>>
> That certainly is a nice attitude. It becomes your loss, nobody else's.
>
> You could either learn to option your system and newsreader to wrap the
> text in your window, or change to software that can do what *YOU* want
> it to do.
>
> Don't expect other people to drag you by the hand through YOUR Usenet
> travels with a 640 x 480 CRT.
>
> IOW, if YOU want the text wrapped, then wrap it. Be happy!
>
> That will permit other people to click on links that aren't chopped up
> at some disputable length.
Well that's one way to look at it. But doesn't actually answer my question. I'd like to wrap the text at say 72
characters using the Pan composer. Anyone know how to adjust the line width in Pan Composer?
Darren Salt
> Yoss1960 wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:32:15 +0000, d2e2 wrote:
>>> I try to post I get a warning saying that there are lines longer than 80
>>> columns long. I don't know if this is an issue with Pan itself or maybe
>>> it is something in the Gnome desktop configuration.
>> It's Pan. It is possible to remove the warning, but that means tweaking
>> the source and re-compiling.
>> However, if you want your posts to be readable by most people, it is
>> advisable to keep line length below the 80 char warning limit. I, for
>> one, simply won't read a message is I have to scroll horizontally to read
>> it.
> That certainly is a nice attitude. It becomes your loss, nobody else's.
> You could either learn to option your system and newsreader to wrap the
> text in your window, or change to software that can do what *YOU* want
> it to do.
Mine does; it just doesn't handle long lines well in that you're likely to
get alternating long and short lines, but that's the same for every other
newsreader out there. This is why we have format=flowed.
> Don't expect other people to drag you by the hand through YOUR Usenet
> travels with a 640 x 480 CRT.
80 columns is, I find, a good limit in terms of not requiring an insanely
wide window. I find that, with this limit and a reasonable font size, two
columns of text fit comfortably on one 1280x1024 display with space to spare.
> IOW, if YOU want the text wrapped, then wrap it. Be happy!
> That will permit other people to click on links that aren't chopped up
> at some disputable length.
If the link is broken by the sending software hard-wrapping it, that's a bug.
If the link is character-wrapped for display purposes but remains unwrapped
(or is properly wrapped in accordance with relevant RFCs) in the raw text, or
if it causes the presence of a horizontal scroll bar (or equivalent), that's
fine.
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Peter J Ross
In alt.os.linux.debian on Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:28:17 GMT, d2e2
<d2...@att.net> wrote:
> I'd like to wrap the text at say 72 characters using the Pan
> composer. Anyone know how to adjust the line width in Pan Composer?
I can't find a way of changing line-wrap settings in pan 0.132 on
Debian Lenny. Since you haven't received an answer here in AOLD, let's
try news.software.readers, which is where the pan gurus hang out.
If all else fails, you could try composing your posts in an external
editor and setting line-wrap there.
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mick
> [crossposted]
>
> In alt.os.linux.debian on Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:28:17 GMT, d2e2
> <d2...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to wrap the text at say 72 characters using the Pan composer.
>> Anyone know how to adjust the line width in Pan Composer?
>
> I can't find a way of changing line-wrap settings in pan 0.132 on Debian
> Lenny. Since you haven't received an answer here in AOLD, let's try
> news.software.readers, which is where the pan gurus hang out.
>
> If all else fails, you could try composing your posts in an external
> editor and setting line-wrap there.
Pan 0.132 wraps at 72 chars automatically, if you just press the "Wrap
Text" button...
It's a historical thing to give an 80 char line including quotes and is
part of the GNKSA test.
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d2e2
> [crossposted]
>
> In alt.os.linux.debian on Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:28:17 GMT, d2e2
> <d2...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to wrap the text at say 72 characters using the Pan composer.
>> Anyone know how to adjust the line width in Pan Composer?
>
> I can't find a way of changing line-wrap settings in pan 0.132 on Debian
> Lenny. Since you haven't received an answer here in AOLD, let's try
> news.software.readers, which is where the pan gurus hang out.
>
> If all else fails, you could try composing your posts in an external
> editor and setting line-wrap there.
Thanks I will check our the link. I did try several other editors but actually run
into the same issue. There are several ways to work around this but they all
represent more work and less joy.
d2e2
> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:56:45 +0000, Peter J Ross wrote:
>
>> [crossposted]
>>
>> In alt.os.linux.debian on Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:28:17 GMT, d2e2
>> <d2...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to wrap the text at say 72 characters using the Pan composer.
>>> Anyone know how to adjust the line width in Pan Composer?
>>
>> I can't find a way of changing line-wrap settings in pan 0.132 on
>> Debian Lenny. Since you haven't received an answer here in AOLD, let's
>> try news.software.readers, which is where the pan gurus hang out.
>>
>> If all else fails, you could try composing your posts in an external
>> editor and setting line-wrap there.
>
>
> Pan 0.132 wraps at 72 chars automatically, if you just press the "Wrap
> Text" button...
>
> It's a historical thing to give an 80 char line including quotes and is
> part of the GNKSA test.
Well something is wrong with my build, because it doesn't automatically wrap at 72 chars no matter how
many times I hit the wrap text button. The above sentence wrapped a 91 char. It there a way to change this?
Mike Dee
> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:09:41 +0000, mick wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:56:45 +0000, Peter J Ross wrote:
>>
>>> [crossposted]
xpost left intact.
>>> In alt.os.linux.debian on Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:28:17 GMT, d2e2
>>> <d2...@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd like to wrap the text at say 72 characters using the Pan
>>>> composer. Anyone know how to adjust the line width in Pan Composer?
>>>
>>> I can't find a way of changing line-wrap settings in pan 0.132 on
>>> Debian Lenny. Since you haven't received an answer here in AOLD, let's
>>> try news.software.readers, which is where the pan gurus hang out.
>>>
>>> If all else fails, you could try composing your posts in an external
>>> editor and setting line-wrap there.
>>
>> Pan 0.132 wraps at 72 chars automatically, if you just press the "Wrap
>> Text" button...
>>
>> It's a historical thing to give an 80 char line including quotes and is
>> part of the GNKSA test.
>
> Well something is wrong with my build, because it doesn't automatically
> wrap at 72 chars no matter how many times I hit the wrap text button.
> The above sentence wrapped a 91 char. It there a way to change this?
Its pretty weird, I began by replying to this in 40tude Dialog in
Windows, this honoured your lengthy 90 odd character line wrap. So I
thought I'd better cancel and use Pan (waxed in black on ubuntu) to see
what it looked like there.
Loading your post in Pan, I see your long lines in the body text. Hitting
reply it auto wraps it correctly and also wraps at the correct length as
I type... I have not needed to resort to hitting "Wrap Text" even for my
own typing.
I'm drawing a conclusion that it isn't Pan that's at fault here...
I don't even like "new" Pan and go out of my way to use the older
"stable" Pan - pre C++ builds.
I don't see anywhere in this build where you can set a line wrap length.
This is after a half an hour or less of using it, so maybe I'm missing
something here too. The C++ versions of Pan has given me the shits since
day 01. It seems to be getting more dumbed down, ever since.
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If you don't like pan you could try Xpn which is a similar style of news
reader.
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