Tips for running BeOS virtualized?
S.SubZero
trying to run BeOS 5.05 "BONE" virtualized but it's being
uncooperative. I'm trying it out on Virtualbox 1.5.2 and MS Virtual
Server 2007, each with 512MB RAM and 2GB hard disk dedicated to the
VM.
Under Virtualbox 1.5.2 I can't get BeOS to install, VB just crashes
soon after the install CD starts booting.
Under MS Virtual PC 2007 I can get BeOS to install, but the mouse is
choppy, and I also can't get sound working. VPC emulates an SB16, but
the SB16 drivers I tried on Bebits don't generate any sound, though
they do seem to recognize the virtual sound card. Network was a
little quirky, but currently works fine. Seamonkey 1.1.7pre loads a
little slow but is otherwise responsive.
On a whim I converted the hard drive image from VHD to VMDK. I fired
it up under Virtualbox and it actually runs. The interface choppiness
doesn't occur, but otherwise it's almost unusable because every action
processes very slowly. I did manage to get sound working, and while
CL-AMP plays mp3's, it chews up all the CPU and really the system
can't do anything else. Network works, but Seamonkey takes a very
long time to start and is again very slow and unusable.
Anyone out there have any suggestions for getting BeOS to run
happier? I was thinking of trying QEMU but I'm not familiar enough
with QEMU to understand how to set it up.
Angel
> Anyone out there have any suggestions for getting BeOS to run
> happier? I was thinking of trying QEMU but I'm not familiar enough
> with QEMU to understand how to set it up.
BeOS and Haiku run very nicely on Qemu. Have a look at the 'QEMU quick
start guide' at
http://calamari.reverse-dns.net:980/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/QuickStartGuide
which is part of the Qemu documentation at
http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/user-doc.html
to get Qemu up'n'runnin' on a few minutes.
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Saludos,
Angel
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S.SubZero
>
> BeOS and Haiku run very nicely on Qemu. Have a look at the 'QEMU quick
> start guide' at
>
I tried BeOS on QEMU but I can't even get it to install. It is
distributed with a "1boot.img", "2main.img" and .cue file. I tried
booting off the 1boot.img file, which it seems to be able to do, but
after giving me a brief loading dialogue it just hangs. I burned it
to a CD (with software for burning cue/bin stuff) and the result was
the same. With this same disc I did get it to install in Virtual PC
2007.
I did fool with Haiku in QEMU but at least on the PC I am using at
work it's too slow to be comfortably usable.
Angel
> I tried BeOS on QEMU but I can't even get it to install. It is
> distributed with a "1boot.img", "2main.img" and .cue file. I tried
> booting off the 1boot.img file, which it seems to be able to do, but
> after giving me a brief loading dialogue it just hangs.
I had success by doing:
qemu -fda floppy.img -hda image.be -boot a
where floppy.img is your 1boot.img and image.be is your 2main.img.
> I burned it
> to a CD (with software for burning cue/bin stuff) and the result was
> the same. With this same disc I did get it to install in Virtual PC
> 2007.
Well I've been having the same problem with the BeOS CDs for years.
I've tried dozens of CD (media), at least 5 CD recorders and 4 different
boxes to try to burn it to no avail.
The .cue file is supposed to contain the information for Nero to burn
the CD. I don't use Nero (I don't even use Windows) and people on IRC
told me I simply need to burn a two sessions CD: 1boot.img is the first
session and 2main.img the second one.
> I did fool with Haiku in QEMU but at least on the PC I am using at
> work it's too slow to be comfortably usable.
It works reasonably well for me on Qemu running on Debian GNU/Linux and
FreeBSD.
Matthias Werner
S.SubZero
wrote:
2 small problems:
1. I don't use VMWare (doesn't like Vista x64 host)
2. That image is about 100MB in size. Haiku takes most of it. There
are no GUI disk utils, and I don't know how to mount a second scratch
disk with the shell.
I did get a different distribution that's on a nice big 10GB image and
loaded with a bunch of apps. It's kinda shaky though. It comes with
Firefox 2.0.0.9, which I promptly rendered unrunnable the very first
time I clicked it. It no longer starts at all, just crashes
instantly. Never even served me a web page.
I have no way to measure how mature Haiku is, and according to their
website they don't even have any timeline for announcing any kind of
actual release. My experience with it shows it still needs work. It
does have promise though and looks oh so pretty.
Angel
> 1. I don't use VMWare (doesn't like Vista x64 host)
> 2. That image is about 100MB in size. Haiku takes most of it. There
> are no GUI disk utils, and I don't know how to mount a second scratch
> disk with the shell.
What I do is to download the raw image and then convert it into Qemu
compressed image (qcow). You can create new qcow images and use them as
different disks or partitions to store data or install software or
whatever. You simply indicate which ones to use at the command line:
qemu -hda haiku.qcow -hdb haiku_data.qcow (or whatever you call it)
S.SubZero
> S.SubZero <ssubz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 1. I don't use VMWare (doesn't like Vista x64 host)
> > 2. That image is about 100MB in size. Haiku takes most of it. There
> > are no GUI disk utils, and I don't know how to mount a second scratch
> > disk with the shell.
>
> What I do is to download the raw image and then convert it into Qemu
> compressed image (qcow). You can create new qcow images and use them as
> different disks or partitions to store data or install software or
> whatever. You simply indicate which ones to use at the command line:
>
> qemu -hda haiku.qcow -hdb haiku_data.qcow (or whatever you call it)
>
I mean I made a second disk, and I specifed it as a second disk in my
QEMU command line, but I don't know how to tell Haiku to use it. It
apparently sees it, but I do not know the commands to tell it to
partition, format, or anything else.
I can't really use Haiku anyway due to my aforementioned
instabilities, so that's not really an issue.
earlcolby...@sympatico.ca
only uses one(1) CPU core.
Does any of the VM's out there allow BeOS/Haiku to see more than one
CPU?
Estteban
2007, have to use fail safe video, but everything else works good and
fast, here is the link to download it
http://www.beosmax.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
I also run 2 different Linux flavors under Virtual Pc 2007, is kind of
cool.
Here is a link of what works and does not work in Microsoft virtual pc
2004: http://vpc.visualwin.com/
Good Luck!
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Estteban
2007, have to use fail safe video, but everything else works good and
fast, here is the link to download it
http://www.beosmax.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
I also run 2 different Linux flavors under Virtual Pc 2007, is kind of
cool.
Here is a link of what works and does not work in Microsoft virtual pc
2004: http://vpc.visualwin.com/
Good Luck!
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Estteban
2007, have to use fail safe video, but everything else works good and
fast, here is the link to download it
http://www.beosmax.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
I also run 2 different Linux flavors under Virtual Pc 2007, is kind of
cool.
Here is a link of what works and does not work in Microsoft virtual pc
2004: http://vpc.visualwin.com/
Good Luck!
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