Re: Haiku slow on qemu
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of<873a6lp...@usenet.ankman.de>:
> I downloaded haiku-alpha-gcc4.image and trying to run it in qemu.
It's
> sluggish (1.6 GHZ AMD64, supposed to be 2.6 in Pentium measurements
as
> far as I know) but just 1 GB RAM.
>
Wow, according to the haiku site that should be plenty of power.
> I run it on Ubuntu Linux. There is just Gnome running after a fresh
boot.
>
> I wasn't able to start it in Virtualbox (how?) to see if it would be
> faster.
>
> Cool would be to boot this image via grub. But as far as I check
Google
> results you can't,
Theres install instructions on the haiku site for using grub to boot it
from its own partition.
need to install it into a blank partition (or USB
> stick, may be another thing I'm going to try).
>
Give it its own partition...they say it needs 600MB to install so a 2gb
partition should be sufficient.
> Well in qemu it takes long to boot. Sometimes I have to do slow mouse
> clicks as it seems not to recognize quick clicks like on Linux or
> Windows. It also takes about 90 secs to load Bezilla. And most scary,
the
> clock starts running fast. After about 15 minutes it's about 1 minute
in
> the future and seems to accelerate, so after 30 minutes it's 3-4
minutes
> already.
>
> Any idea?
Its an alpha release :)
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>���hw��f wrote on 18. September 2009:
>>
>> Andreas Kohlbach <a...@spamfence.net> pinched out a steaming pile
>> of<873a6lp...@usenet.ankman.de>:
>>
>>> Cool would be to boot this image via grub. But as far as I check
>> Google
>>> results you can't,
>>
>> Theres install instructions on the haiku site for using grub to boot
it
>> from its own partition.
>>
>> need to install it into a blank partition (or USB
>>> stick, may be another thing I'm going to try).
>>
>> Give it its own partition...they say it needs 600MB to install so a
2gb
>> partition should be sufficient.
>
>I did copy it an a 4 GB USB stick. But hardware (probably computer
BIOS)
>doesn't like me.
You might check to see if there is BIOS upgrade.
I assume you can set BIOS "USB Drive" as a bootable volume choice.
If not; there is your problem :)
As already before for Linux on an USB stick it boots
>from it (I see the Haiku splash screen) but for some reason it (also
>Linux before) tries to continue booting from a hard disk partition
after
>that.
I assume you are not willing to remove HDD in order to prevent that.
Both OS report not to be able to find or mount a boot partition,
>instead of considering the USB stick as device to run from.
>
>I also added an entry for grub and it was able to boot off the USB
>stick. But then the same happened and I was thrown back to Haiku's
>userland console.
>
While booting the USB stick did you hold down spacebar and try
different options?
>And I don't want to repartition the hard disk to make a new partition
>for it. I already had a lot of trouble doing this before (almost
killed
>other partitions with operating systems on them). Not worth the risk
for me.
>
Understandable.
>>> Well in qemu it takes long to boot. Sometimes I have to do slow
mouse
>>> clicks as it seems not to recognize quick clicks like on Linux or
>>> Windows. It also takes about 90 secs to load Bezilla. And most
scary,
>> the
>>> clock starts running fast. After about 15 minutes it's about 1
minute
>> in
>>> the future and seems to accelerate, so after 30 minutes it's 3-4
>> minutes
>>> already.
>>>
>>> Any idea?
>>
>> Its an alpha release :)
>
>I think it's something else. May be a problem with the emu. As it
>consumes all CPU cycles in the emu. What also would explain that
Haiku's
>clock starts running like crazy.
Sounds reasonable.
My laptop has odd issue with suddenly dropping ethernet (wired)
connection. It often dosent appear to be on at all. Tried it across
different OS's too.
:(
Andreas Kohlbach
>
> Andreas Kohlbach <a...@spamfence.net> pinched out a steaming pile
> of<87ws3vh...@usenet.ankman.de>:
>
>>���hw��f wrote on 18. September 2009:
>>>
>>> Andreas Kohlbach <a...@spamfence.net> pinched out a steaming pile
>>> of<873a6lp...@usenet.ankman.de>:
>>>
>>>> Cool would be to boot this image via grub. But as far as I check
>>>> results you can't,
>>>
>>> Theres install instructions on the haiku site for using grub to boot
> it
>>> from its own partition.
>>>
>>> need to install it into a blank partition (or USB
>>>> stick, may be another thing I'm going to try).
>>>
>>> Give it its own partition...they say it needs 600MB to install so a
> 2gb
>>> partition should be sufficient.
>>
>>I did copy it an a 4 GB USB stick. But hardware (probably computer
> BIOS)
>>doesn't like me.
>
> You might check to see if there is BIOS upgrade.
I checked, there is not. The Notebook is fairly new anyway, so it might
be buggy and there might be one out soon.
> I assume you can set BIOS "USB Drive" as a bootable volume choice.
>
> If not; there is your problem :)
Yes, I can set this up. And it actually boots from the USB stick. I could
see the Haiku splash screen before I entered "userland".
> As already before for Linux on an USB stick it boots
>>from it (I see the Haiku splash screen) but for some reason it (also
>>Linux before) tries to continue booting from a hard disk partition
> after
>>that.
>
> I assume you are not willing to remove HDD in order to prevent that.
Not really. But I might take the USB stick to an internet cafe where
there is usually no Linux or ext2/3 partitions installed to see what
happens there.
> Both OS report not to be able to find or mount a boot partition,
>>instead of considering the USB stick as device to run from.
>>
>>I also added an entry for grub and it was able to boot off the USB
>>stick. But then the same happened and I was thrown back to Haiku's
>>userland console.
>>
>
> While booting the USB stick did you hold down spacebar and try
> different options?
Not yet. When I boot next time I'll try this. I forgot what key it was,
tried ESC, F12 etc. but not the space bar. *g*
>>I think it's something else. May be a problem with the emu. As it
>>consumes all CPU cycles in the emu. What also would explain that
> Haiku's
>>clock starts running like crazy.
>
> Sounds reasonable.
> My laptop has odd issue with suddenly dropping ethernet (wired)
> connection. It often dosent appear to be on at all. Tried it across
> different OS's too.
> :(
I had this on an older notebook too along with some "watch dog" log
entries. I don't know what it was but removing and reloading the ethernet
card's driver helped.
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Matthias Werner
>
> I wasn't able to start it in Virtualbox (how?) to see if it would be
> faster.
>
Hi,
installed haiku-r1alpha1.iso in VirtualBox 3.0.6.
Works great.
Host is WinXP SP3.
Matthias
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After reading some long discussions on the Haiku forum it seems that
theres an issue with newer hard disks and the capabilities of Haiku to
utilise that higher speed.
The workaround seems to be "disable DMA" in the boot options.
Suggestions included "select all safe mode boot options and then enable
them one by one till you find the one that is the issue".
>> I assume you can set BIOS "USB Drive" as a bootable volume choice.
>>
>> If not; there is your problem :)
>
>Yes, I can set this up. And it actually boots from the USB stick. I
could
>see the Haiku splash screen before I entered "userland".
>
Its probably a boot option tweak.
Ive had to "disable DMA" on more than one computer trying to install
BeOS.
On one I had to limit the AGP memory size in the BIOS before it would
boot. Weird.
>> As already before for Linux on an USB stick it boots
>>>from it (I see the Haiku splash screen) but for some reason it (also
>>>Linux before) tries to continue booting from a hard disk partition
>> after
>>>that.
>>
>> I assume you are not willing to remove HDD in order to prevent that.
>
>Not really. But I might take the USB stick to an internet cafe where
>there is usually no Linux or ext2/3 partitions installed to see what
>happens there.
>
Good idea.
>> Both OS report not to be able to find or mount a boot partition,
>>>instead of considering the USB stick as device to run from.
>>>
>>>I also added an entry for grub and it was able to boot off the USB
>>>stick. But then the same happened and I was thrown back to Haiku's
>>>userland console.
>>>
>>
>> While booting the USB stick did you hold down spacebar and try
>> different options?
>
>Not yet. When I boot next time I'll try this. I forgot what key it
was,
>tried ESC, F12 etc. but not the space bar. *g*
>
Theres some other usefull key-combinations I used to know for BeOS but
have forgotten. Think they're listed in the BeOS book.
>>>I think it's something else. May be a problem with the emu. As it
>>>consumes all CPU cycles in the emu. What also would explain that
>> Haiku's
>>>clock starts running like crazy.
>>
>> Sounds reasonable.
>> My laptop has odd issue with suddenly dropping ethernet (wired)
>> connection. It often dosent appear to be on at all. Tried it across
>> different OS's too.
>> :(
>
>I had this on an older notebook too along with some "watch dog" log
>entries. I don't know what it was but removing and reloading the
ethernet
>card's driver helped.
This seems to be a BIOS issue. It looks for a wireless connection
*first* then tries the ethernet port. The fan is dead too, but thats
another story :)
Andreas Kohlbach
>
> Andreas Kohlbach <a...@spamfence.net> pinched out a steaming pile
>
>>I checked, there is not. The Notebook is fairly new anyway, so it
> might
>>be buggy and there might be one out soon.
>>
> After reading some long discussions on the Haiku forum it seems that
> theres an issue with newer hard disks and the capabilities of Haiku to
> utilise that higher speed.
> The workaround seems to be "disable DMA" in the boot options.
> Suggestions included "select all safe mode boot options and then enable
> them one by one till you find the one that is the issue".
I will play with them, thank you.
>>> While booting the USB stick did you hold down spacebar and try
>>> different options?
>>
>>Not yet. When I boot next time I'll try this. I forgot what key it
> was,
>>tried ESC, F12 etc. but not the space bar. *g*
>>
> Theres some other usefull key-combinations I used to know for BeOS but
> have forgotten. Think they're listed in the BeOS book.
Well the space bar didn't help. It does nothing, or beeps if I try to
early. In any way I end up at the userland again.
But the Haiku image must be okay, as it works in qemu.
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