Earthlink anyone?
sirelt...@yahoo.com
provision of newsgroups? I am seriously thinking about switching since
they are actually cheaper than TW (41.95 after a 29.95 for the first
6 months intro) . . .
I am amazed that RR would not even consider giving a discount to keep
someone as a subscriber. I told them of the offers from Yahoo! (yes,
much slower and I would NEVER swtich to them anyway) and Earthlink's
slightly discounted chgs . . . they offered me a 5.00 discount if I
added digital cable . . . gee pay more for something I really don't
need since I am a DirecTV/NewsCorp subscriber . . . . . errrr!
Louis
> Does anyone have an knowledge of what's happening with the Earthlink
> provision of newsgroups? I am seriously thinking about switching since
> they are actually cheaper than TW (41.95 after a 29.95 for the first
> 6 months intro) . . .
Go with earthlink.net You will experience 0% downtime if you switch onto
earthlink.net from *.rr.com and will save $3.00 ($36.00 year) and
receive an unlimited dial-up account through earthlink.net. You cant
get more value for your money than going with the earthlink.net
deal. If you go with earthlink and wanna use me as a referral the
respond in private to the email listed on this post and i'll give you
my earthlink.net addy :p
> I am amazed that RR would not even consider giving a discount to keep
> someone as a subscriber. I told them of the offers from Yahoo! (yes,
> much slower and I would NEVER swtich to them anyway) and Earthlink's
> slightly discounted chgs . . . they offered me a 5.00 discount if I
> added digital cable . . . gee pay more for something I really don't
> need since I am a DirecTV/NewsCorp subscriber . . . . . errrr!
>
Dude, dont even bother with DSL or other 'solutions' as I'm
downloading @ 340-380K/s and uploading @ 43-63K/s using earthlink.net
on socal.rr.com cable. I downloaded a 699MB ISO in less than 26
minutes about 6 weeks ago... for $41.95 and free unlimited dial-up
throughout the US you cant go wrong with that!
I give earthlink's deal a thumbs up. Now if they would just add the
newsgroups I request...
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Linux pmud.com 2.6.0 #1 Fri Dec 19 01:03:36 UTC 2003 i686 Pentium III
(Coppermine) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
cHi
Earthlink still pays Time Warner a fee for the ability to use their fiber
network. I don't understand the "0% down time with Earthlink," as it would
be the same with Time Warner considering they use the same equipment. RR
does give discounts for new customers, but rarely has specials for existing
customers. I'm very please with Time Warner myself, though, and would not
change it. I know that for some people, Earthlink support is lacking -
sometimes they simply transfer to Time Warner when there is nothing Time
Warner can do for an Earthlink-related issue (i.e. Earthlink software
problems, Earthlink routing issues, etc.) Friends of mine have experienced
this, but that's not to discourage a switch to Earthlink - it's a rare
occasion. Myself, I am very pleased with Time Warner RR and do not wish to
change services, although it's always a possibility because you're never
contractually obligated to Time Warner. Of the three services in my area
that Time Warner offers, I prefer RR, although RR and Earthlink are similar.
I would *never* wish AOL onto anyone...ugh.
"Louis" <usen...@ossh.com> wrote in message
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Maarten Andriessen
<sirelt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lr1suvcpmju2u7vn0...@4ax.com...
> Does anyone have an knowledge of what's happening with the Earthlink
> provision of newsgroups? I am seriously thinking about switching since
> they are actually cheaper than TW (41.95 after a 29.95 for the first
> 6 months intro) . . .
My mother-in-law has Earthlink DSL and they use the same Newsserver farm as
the cable users. I have looked not too long ago and they have incompletion
problems just as RR has, but I can't tell whether it is any better or worse.
Furthermore, you may only download 5Gb a month from Earthlinks newsservers
and the speeds are very slow.
If you want proper usenet service, go with Supernews, Easynews, etc...or any
other profesional usenet provider.
Maarten
Louis
> I don't understand the "0% down time with Earthlink," as it would be
> the same with Time Warner considering they use the same equipment.
The switch is seamless to the end-user (us) so you experience 0%
downtime (no loss of Internet connectivity)
> I know that for some people, Earthlink support is lacking -
> sometimes they simply transfer to Time Warner when there is nothing
> Time Warner can do for an Earthlink-related issue (i.e. Earthlink
> software problems, Earthlink routing issues, etc.) Friends of mine
> have experienced this, but that's not to discourage a switch to
> Earthlink - it's a rare occasion.
I've had the problem mentioned above during 'after-business' hours.
rr.com support has helped me in the past so I cant say the above
statement is true either, but then again I've already diagnosed and
provide a solution to the problem with my call for support.
> Myself, I am very pleased with Time Warner RR and do not wish to
> change services, although it's always a possibility because you're
> never contractually obligated to Time Warner. Of the three services
> in my area that Time Warner offers, I prefer RR, although RR and
> Earthlink are similar. I would *never* wish AOL onto anyone...ugh.
I was 100% satisfied with service provided by socal.rr.com. I'm 90%
satisfied with earthlink.net's service due to their lack of honoring
newsgroup requests, but the unlimited dial-up account more than makes
up for the lack of newsgroup request honoring.
Earthlink.net on TW cable is a great deal.
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Linux ossh.com 2.6.0 #1 Fri Dec 19 01:03:36 UTC 2003 i686 Pentium III
(Coppermine) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
listener
for use when traveling with laptop. I am most pleased with this combination.
"Louis" <usen...@ossh.com> wrote in message
news:nntp.hh8y...@ossh.com...
Louis
> FYI, Roadrunner provides a dial-up service to complement their cable service,
> for use when traveling with laptop. I am most pleased with this combination.
1.) You have to pay $0.99 an hour after 10 hours of free usage for
socal.rr.com, while it's *unlimited* usage with earthlink.net's
dial-up service.
2.) You have to provide socal.rr.com credit card information for
dial-up account usage in case you go over your 10 hours vs. just
calling earthlink.net and having them switch you over onto their
network without giving them *any* billing information other than
your name and address.
*.rr.com is probably reselling earthlink.net's dial-up service while
making $$$ off you if you use it over 10 hours a month.
Louis
> What about the completeness of Earthlink's newserver? Is it any
> better than the horror that is Roadrunner? What is their retention
> time in binary groups? And in text groups? Also, I've heard mention
> that Earthlink caps downloads from the newserver in some way. How
> exactly does that work?
All in all it's not so bad. I don't really frequent newsgroups with
binaries so I couldn't tell you, but it seems both earthlink and
rr.com are experiencing the same Usenet problems, so in the end
earthlink.net is still a better deal for you in the long run. You
will save $108.00 ($90.00 6 MONTHS + $18 6 MONTHS) in one year by
switching to earthlink.net's service, so by then there should be more
competitive rates out there so that you can obtain a deal with another
ISP that latches onto TW cables pipe.
The switch is perfect if you're not "attached" to your *@*.rr.com
email address. You get 5GB's of download per username, but you can
create 8 usernames with your earthlink account for a total of 40GB's a
month, and if you're still hard up for more binaries you could always
make a username that you delete once you hit 5GB and create a new
one... but thats something someone trying to break the rules would do
;) The one thing I enjoyed about socal.rr.com was they would honor any
and all requests for newsgroup additions while earthlink.net has yet
to honor my request which has been posted several times in their
newsgroup request forum... other than that earthlink is an excellent
deal. If anyone out there uses earthlink.net use me as your referral
and you will get extra brownie points :p:
> I'm very interested in switching, so any and all information would be
> most welcome.
Switch and save the $$$... and don't forget to use me as a referral
if you do switch (give them the email address above) :p
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Linux ossh.com 2.6.0 #1 Fri Dec 19 01:03:36 UTC 2003 i686 Pentium III
(Coppermine) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
Joe Shmoe
Earthlink throttles your usenet bandwidth to 1 gig a month.
Joe Shmoe
<Winte...@cyberspace.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 04:57:19 GMT, Louis <usen...@ossh.com> wrote:
>
>What about the completeness of Earthlink's newserver? Is it any
>better than the horror that is Roadrunner? What is their retention
>time in binary groups? And in text groups? Also, I've heard mention
>that Earthlink caps downloads from the newserver in some way. How
>exactly does that work?
>
>I'm very interested in switching, so any and all information would be
>most welcome.
>
>Thanks,
>Wintermute
Louis
> On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 23:49:25 GMT, Joe Shmoe <joes...@mail15.dot.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Earthlink throttles your usenet bandwidth to 1 gig a month.
>
> What exactly does that mean? After a gig, you can't connect to the
> news server anymore? Or you can't pull new headers? Or you just
> can't d/l any more messages? Or does it just slow to a snail's pace
> after 1 gig? Or do they charge extra if you go over? Also, is the
> limit per username (of which you can set up several per account)? Or
> is it per MAC address (of which there's only one per account)?
Earthlink caps individual *usernames* Usenet connection from full
speed to 6.4K/s (or 64K/s - never been capped for excessive usage)
after 5GB's (5GB not 1GB) of Usenet downloads if you exceed 5GB's in
30 days. You can create 7-9 earthlink username accounts, which means
each one has a 5GB download every 30 days before it's capped... So,
in reality it isn't capped because you can technically create / delete
a username every day and have 5GB's with each new username.
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Linux pmud.com 2.6.0-mm2 #1 Fri Jan 2 05:52:01 UTC 2004 i686 Pentium
III (Coppermine) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
Joe Shmoe
It was 1 gig about a month ago, I will have to check into it to see if
its been changed.
ShadowDragon
news:f5bpvvg0n9tj6ppp9...@4ax.com...
>
> How badly it will affect customers who have to talk to
> 'support experts' who DON'T know anything wasn't disclosed.
Is that really any different than 80% of the calls now?
Steve Silverwood
> While still snuggled in a 'spider hole', Louis <usen...@ossh.com> scribbled:
>
>>Earthlink caps individual *usernames* Usenet connection from full
>>speed to 6.4K/s (or 64K/s - never been capped for excessive usage)
>>after 5GB's (5GB not 1GB) of Usenet downloads if you exceed 5GB's in
>>30 days. You can create 7-9 earthlink username accounts, which means
>>each one has a 5GB download every 30 days before it's capped... So,
>>in reality it isn't capped because you can technically create / delete
>>a username every day and have 5GB's with each new username.
>
> And in the news today, Earthlink says they're cutting 40% of their
> current staff, 1,300 people.
>
> They're now out-sourcing 'call centers' to private companys,
> and claiming it will save money.
>
> How badly it will affect customers who have to talk to
> 'support experts' who DON'T know anything wasn't disclosed.
They're outsourcing their support, all right... to India!
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-- //Steve//
Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email: kb6...@arrl.net
Miles Promo
"Bill G" wrote:
> Would it be correct to say, then, that users need to present a
> username/password to access the Earthlink news servers? Many ISP's
> simply check to see whether you're coming from an IP address that they
> own but it looks like EL doesn't do it that way, right?
Earthlink checks both the username/password pair AND
the IP address used. There are inconsistencies, but that almost
always means that you cannot use Earthlink's news servers
from work or a university LAN or a hotel/library/coffee shop/
airport, even if you present a valid username/password. That
is because Earthlink experienced (it claims) a flood of high
bandwidth news server accesses from non-Earthlink IP
addresses - presumably from kids at college and people at
work using their highspeed LANs to download MP3s. The
only way to access Earthlink's news servers is via Earthlink
dialup or, if you have a DSL/cable account, from wherever
that was installed. What happens when one gets ISP
service over wireless broadband should be interesting - do
you get an Earthlink IP address, or do you get an IP address
assigned to your wireless connectivity provider?
--->Miles2Go--->
Dale Bishop
QSELb.851$zj7...@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Miles Promo"
<Mi...@LongLines.com> wrote:
You get an Earthlink IP assigned by your local TW cable affiliate.
Earthlink supplies TW with blocks of IP addresses that they use for EL
customers.
The IP you get is determined by the .bin file you modem is assigned.