SMTP server (mail.pacbell.net) limited to ~25 recipients? - please help
Adam
I have a tennis distribution list that exceeds this limit and
I can't send email to the entire list now.
Any chance the limit can be increased to ~50?
SBC/PacBell Case # 108594368
John Navas
In <SQGcf.10764$D13....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com> on Thu, 10 Nov 2005
This is presumably to prevent spamming, well-intended but boneheaded
methodology.
As an alternative, create your tennis group at <http://groups.google.com/> or
<http://groups.yahoo.com/>.
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John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>
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Adam
old timers and are not as computer savvy as I would like.
Otherwise, I would have used evite invitations.
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Jerry Gardner
> SBC/PacBell's SMTP server (mail.pacbell.net) is limited to ~25 recipients?
>
> I have a tennis distribution list that exceeds this limit and
> I can't send email to the entire list now.
> Any chance the limit can be increased to ~50?
Set up your own SMTP server.
Adam
"Jerry Gardner" <jg2-u...@gardnerclan.net> wrote in message
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Can you tell me how?
SMS
Use gmail. There is still a limit, but it's a lot bigger than 25 (not
sure what the limit is, but it's more than 50).
SMS
If you need a gmail invite, send me your e-mail address (change geemail
to gmail in my address), and I'll send you one.
Gmail will solve your problem.
In general, it's a good idea to keep your e-mail account on something
like gmail, or other mail provider that has POP3 access. If you switch
ISPs later on, you don't have to switch e-mail addresses.
Setting up gmail so you can use it with Outlook or Thunderbird is a bit
tricky. You'll need to set up an additionsl SMTP outgoing server name
and port, and assign it to your gmail account. Gmail has a page that
explains how to do this.
IIRC, Outlook Express is not a good program to use with multiple e-mail
accounts and multiple servers, use Thunderbird (free from
"http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/"), if you're currently not
using the full version of Outlook.
Adam
"SMS" <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote in message news:4374c147$0$75764$742e...@news.sonic.net...
Thanks for offering a gmail invite but I already have gmail setup with OE.
And, I absolutely love it. Why would it make a difference whether
I use Thunderbird or OE? This seems to be an ISP limitation rather than
a mail client issue.
SMS
>
> Thanks for offering a gmail invite but I already have gmail setup with OE.
> And, I absolutely love it. Why would it make a difference whether
> I use Thunderbird or OE? This seems to be an ISP limitation rather than
> a mail client issue.
No, I mean that in Outlook Express, if I recall correctly, you can't
have individual mail boxes for each account. I was setting up e-mail for
a relative and with Outlook Express, all incoming mail, no matter which
user it was for, went into a single mail box, which was not acceptable
(with the full version of OE this was not a limitation).
In any case, the limit on the number of recipients for an e-mail, when
using Gmail, is a Gmail limit, not a PacBell limit. I've sent to mailing
lists of a couple of hundred at a time. There is a maximum limit of
e-mails per day that you can sent on each Gmail account.
Marty
I think I thought I saw this post from SMS <scharf...@geemail.com>:
>
>Gmail will solve your problem.
>
Unless the ISP blocks outgoing SMTP port traffic. Some do, but I don't know
about his.
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well, I have others." - Groucho Marx
John Richards
> No, I mean that in Outlook Express, if I recall correctly, you can't
> have individual mail boxes for each account. I was setting up e-mail for
> a relative and with Outlook Express, all incoming mail, no matter which
> user it was for, went into a single mail box, which was not acceptable
If it is important to the recipient to keep mail for different accounts
separated, OE makes it easy. Just set up a filter rule for each
account, which will redirect incoming mail to any folder of your
choosing.
--
John Richards
John Richards
Won't work. SBC blocks port 25.
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Adam
"Marty" <this.a...@is.invalid> wrote in message
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When I spoke with SBC/PacBell, they said that
the limit cannot be changed for people using
their legacy SMTP server (mail.pacbell.net).
But, it can be changed for people who have migrated to
the SBC/Yahoo SMTP server. So, it does sound like
there is an ISP restriction. What I don't understand is
why it cannot be changed for the legacy SMTP server but
can be changed for the SBC/Yahoo SMTP server.
John Navas
In <fpo9n1lfmgr68ub21...@4ax.com> on Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:30:56
-0800, Marty <this.a...@is.invalid> wrote:
>Somewhere around Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:05:42 -0800, while reading ba.internet,
>I think I thought I saw this post from SMS <scharf...@geemail.com>:
>
>>Gmail will solve your problem.
>>
>Unless the ISP blocks outgoing SMTP port traffic. Some do, but I don't know
>about his.
Gmail uses a different (SSL) port that shouldn't be blocked.
Adam
Are you referring to sending emails via Gmail's website?
I'm currently using Outlook Express with Gmail accounts,
which is running into the recipient limit.
SMS
> Somewhere around Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:05:42 -0800, while reading ba.internet,
> I think I thought I saw this post from SMS <scharf...@geemail.com>:
>
>
>>Gmail will solve your problem.
>>
>
> Unless the ISP blocks outgoing SMTP port traffic. Some do, but I don't know
> about his.
They probably don't block it on port 587, which is what Gmail uses.
John Navas
In <is6df.11201$D13....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com> on Fri, 11 Nov 2005
19:39:58 GMT, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
>"John Navas" <spamf...@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:ye6df.45115$qk4....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Gmail uses a different (SSL) port that shouldn't be blocked.
>Are you referring to sending emails via Gmail's website?
>I'm currently using Outlook Express with Gmail accounts,
>which is running into the recipient limit.
I'm referring to the Gmail outgoing SMTP server, which can be used with any
email client that supports SSL, including [cough, cough] Outlook Express.
As always, "Google is your friend."
<http://www.google.com/search?q=gmail+smtp+outlook-express>
John Navas
In <4374f6f0$0$54770$742e...@news.sonic.net> on Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:54:39
-0800, SMS <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
Wrong again. 465.
SMS
The instructions for configuring Thunderbird are at
"http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13285". It's a
much better e-mail client than Outlook Express.
What you have to be careful with is that the default port numbers for
the servers don't apply to Gmail. The POP server port for Gmail is 995,
while the "default" is usually 110.
Similarly, the default SMTP port is usually 25, but for Gmail it's 587.
The instructions from Gmail are good, but the method of adding
additional SMTP ports, and then specifying which SMTP port each e-mail
account uses can be a little confusing under Thunderbird.
John Navas
In <4374fd7e$0$54760$742e...@news.sonic.net> on Fri, 11 Nov 2005 12:22:38
-0800, SMS <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>SMS wrote:
>> Marty wrote:
>>
>>> Somewhere around Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:05:42 -0800, while reading
>>> ba.internet,
>>> I think I thought I saw this post from SMS <scharf...@geemail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Gmail will solve your problem.
>>>
>>> Unless the ISP blocks outgoing SMTP port traffic. Some do, but I
>>> don't know
>>> about his.
>>
>> They probably don't block it on port 587, which is what Gmail uses.
>
>The instructions for configuring Thunderbird are at
>"http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13285". It's a
>much better e-mail client than Outlook Express.
>
>What you have to be careful with is that the default port numbers for
>the servers don't apply to Gmail. The POP server port for Gmail is 995,
>while the "default" is usually 110.
Wrong again. When Thunderbird POP is configured for SSL (as instructed), the
default switches automatically to port 995.
>Similarly, the default SMTP port is usually 25, but for Gmail it's 587.
Twice wrong again. When Thunderbird SMTP is configured for SSL (as
instructed), the default switches automatically to port 465, which is actually
the correct, specified SMTP port for Gmail.
>The instructions from Gmail are good, but the method of adding
>additional SMTP ports, and then specifying which SMTP port each e-mail
>account uses can be a little confusing under Thunderbird.
Not really.
David Kaye
> I have a tennis distribution list that exceeds this limit and
> I can't send email to the entire list now.
> Any chance the limit can be increased to ~50?
I have a similar problem with Yahoo mail. I have an email list of
about 900 people who like to go to live shows and signed up for my
lists when I've walked around to them at shows.
It used to work fine, but then Yahoo began throttling the recipients at
100 per hour, making it 9 or 10 hours to get out one announcement.
Now, the other day they stopped it down even further. They now only
allow me 100 emails a DAY. So, if I'm going to announce my next show I
have to do it over 9 days.
Yahoo's support email told me to use Yahoo Groups instead. Only
problem with that is it's an opt-in system, and my experience with
mailing lists is that people will gladly receive the announcements, but
if required, they won't lift a finger to answer an invitation email and
add themselves.
I already experience this on another list and lost about 80% of the
list because people simply failed to respond. The addresses were good
and culled a long time ago of people who no longer wanted to get my
emails.
Does anybody know or host an email server that can help me out? My
next show is on the 29th and I've got to get the word out soon.
Anybody?
SMS
> Does anybody know or host an email server that can help me out? My
> next show is on the 29th and I've got to get the word out soon.
You can use gmail.
You may have to break the list in half, as you're limited to 500
recipients per e-mail.
There is a daily limit as well, but they don't publish it, and in any
case 900 is well under the limit, in my experience.
Yahoo Groups may not be a good option because there are sometimes long
delays in the postings, besides the problem of getting people to sign up
for the group.
John Navas
In <aQ%cf.10937$D13....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com> on Fri, 11 Nov 2005