Bill <no...@none.invalid> wrote:
>31 Mar 2016 13:01:46 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <
a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>Bill <no...@none.invalid> wrote:
>>>31 Mar 2016 03:20:21 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <
a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>Bill <no...@none.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>30 Mar 2016 17:00:39 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <
a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>meagain <rick0....@gmail.com.spamless> wrote:
>>>>>>>Some email recipients in other domains have in the past reported not
>>>>>>>being able to receive large emails from
comcast.net.
>>>>>>This is why ghod invented ftp. Large file transfer as an email attachment
>>>>>>is an outrageous idea.
>>>>>In my experience, FTP seems to have all but disappeared in recent years. A
>>>>>tiny bit of it has been replaced by SFTP and FTPS,
>>>>Yes, I use sftp frequently. Only one site I use hasn't implemented ssh.
>>>>>but mostly it's been replaced by HTTPS, as in web-based Dropbox-like
>>>>>applications.
>>>>Isn't that literally calling ftp within the secured connection, or
>>>>something like that?
>>>No, HTTPS. Unlike FTP, HTTPS encrypts the credentials, if I understand
>>>correctly, so it's more secure than FTP.
>>I'm not talking about encrypting the credentials. I'm talking about the
>>file transfer, which takes place in an encrypted layer, either TLS or SSL,
>>as established by HTTPS. This is my limited understanding of what's taking
>>place, that once the encrypted communications layer has been established,
>>files are retrieved with FTP commands.
>No, a transfer initiated via HTTPS (or HTTP) stays with that protocol during
>the transfer. The browser doesn't silently switch to FTP.
You tell me, then. In the secured session, what is the command the
client (browser) sends to obtain a file? It's not "get"?
>>>>All browsers are ftp/sftp clients.
>>I'm wrong. Firefox isn't an sftp client; just tried it.
>Agreed, I don't think any browsers can do SFTP. Interestingly, SFTP has
>almost nothing in common with FTP, though they share similarities in name
>and purpose.
From this user's perspective, I'm using exactly the same commands
in the interactive and scripted sessions. When ssh stuff was introduced,
there wasn't much of a learning curve.