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"God sleeps in the mineral..." - attributed to the Kabbalah

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Tom Zimoski

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Nov 6, 2003, 2:50:48 PM11/6/03
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I work at a public library. A library customer has a document which
attributes this sentence to the Kabbalah:

"God sleeps in the mineral, dreams in the vegetable, wakes in the
animal, and becomes self-concious in man."

She seeks a more specific citation. On the internet I have found
something similar attributed to the Persion poet Rumi, and also to the
Druids.

I'm hoping someone here mind point me to an online concordance of the
Kabbalah, or to a website where I might "search the full-text" of the
Kabbalah.

Thanks for your attention.
T Zimoski

Steven Turner

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Nov 15, 2003, 5:33:23 PM11/15/03
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There is no book called the Kabbalah. What you have is a reference to
the 4 World theory that is expressible in many systems. Sufism is just
one of them. Kabbalah has that system also as expressed in the 4 letters
of the name of G*d that is not pronounced, the Tetragrammatron. Starting
with the final hey as the Mineral and working up to the yud as the Man.
Look at he work of Warren Kenton also know as Shimon ben Halevi. Look in
the book called the 13 Petalled Rose by Adin Steinsaltz under the
chapter called Worlds.


Marcus Katz

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Nov 20, 2003, 7:47:51 PM11/20/03
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Tom

This indeed looks likes a quote from Rumi, "God sleeps in the mineral,
dreams in the vegetable, stirs in the animal, and awakens in the fusion of
the completed Man/Woman" (one version).

I would guess any document attributing it specifically to Kabbalistic
literature is incorrect. As you say, an Internet search will reveal that
this phrase and many variants has been appropriated by everyone from the
Druids to the Theosophists! In terms of Kabbalah, as pointed out by the
previous post, Steven Turner, this *could* potentially be seen as a
"four-worlds" doctrine in terms of the Kabbalah. However, all the items
listed, mineral, vegetable, animal and man, not only have overlaps (i.e. man
is composed mainly of water and salt crystals, which are mineral, has the
same qualities as other mammals, etc ...) but only can each be considered in
terms of the four worlds, depending on which context you are applying. So, I
don't think it is a useful or consistent mapping. Again, as pointed out,
there is no "concordance" of the Kabbalah, as the "Kabbalah" may be viewed
as an oral tradition, whose literature comprises of many works, including
the Zohar, Torah, Bahir, etc. and many commentaries written thereafter.

Hope this assists, if you know which "document" or book made this
attribution to Kabbalah I'd be interested, as then I could strike it out of
my reading
list! LOL.

In the Great Work

Frater F.P.
http://www.templum.com


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