Rudolf Hess - Nazi politician 1987 --- last member of Adolf Hitler's inner
circle, strangled himself with an electrical cord at age 93, in Spandau
Prison.
Chris Hubbock - newscaster 1970 --- shot herself in the head during a prime
time news broadcast on Florida TV station WXLT-TV. She died 14 hours later
Horace Wells - pioneered the use of anesthesia in the 1840s 1848 ---
arrested for spraying two women with sulfuric acid; he anaesthetized himself
with chloroform and slashed open his thigh with a razor.
Sherwood Anderson - writer 1941 --- after swallowing a toothpick at a
cocktail party he died of peritonitis on an ocean liner bound for Brazil.
Attila the Hun 453 AD --- bled to death from a nosebleed on his wedding
night.
Catherine the Great - Empress of Russia 1796 --- a stroke, while going to
the bathroom.
Michael Findlay - horror film maker 1977 --- decapitated by helicopter blade
Catholic Popes who died during sex: Leo VII (936-9) died of a heart attack,
John VII (955-64) was bludgeoned to death by the husband of the woman he was
with at the time, John XIII (965-72) was also murdered by a jealous husband,
Pope Paul II (1467-71) allegedly died while being sodomized by a page boy.
Aleksandr II (Aleksandr Nikolaevich) - Czar of Russia --- assassinated by a
bomb which tore off his legs, ripped open his belly and mutilated his face.
Sergei Chalibashvili - diving accident. Attempted a three-and-a-half reverse
somersault in the tuck position during the World University Games. On the
way down, he smashed his head on the board and was knocked unconscious. He
died after being in a coma for a week.
Jeffrey Dahmer - beaten to death with a broomstick by a fellow inmate at the
Columbia Correctional Institute (talk about sweeping out the trash)
Isadora Duncan - actress - accidental strangulation when her scarf caught in
car wheel. Last words - Adieu, mes amis. Je vais la gloire. (Farewell, my
friends! I go to glory!)
Marty Feldman - found dead in motel room in Mexico. Death from heart
failure, either from climate change or from shellfish poisoning.
Dian Fossey - found hacked to death, presumably by poachers, in her Rwandan
forest camp.
Bobby Fuller --- his badly beaten body was discovered in a parked car in Los
Angeles. His death was attributed to asphyxia through the forced inhalation
of gasoline.
John Glasscock - musician (Jethro Tull) - heart infection caused by an
abscessed tooth
Elizabeth Hartman - actress who fell to her death from a fifth floor window
in a bizarre reflection of a character in her staring 1966 movie "The
Group."
Frank Hayes - jockey - heart attack during a race. His horse, Sweet Kiss,
won the race, making Hayes the only deceased jockey to win a race.
Les Harvey - musician (Stone the Crow) - electrocuted on stage at a show in
Swansea, Wales. He touched a poorly connected microphone and died a few
hours later
William Holden - found dead in his apartment. He had been drinking, and
apparently fell, struck his head on an end table, and bled to death.
Hal Mark Irish - was killed in a leap from a hot air balloon in what was
believed to be the first US death from the thrill sport of Bungee jumping.
Irish fell more than 60 feet to his death on October 29, 1991, after
breaking loose from his bungee cord during a demonstration.
Joselito (Jose Gomez) - Spanish bullfighter - fatally gored fighting his
last bull.
Mark Maples - 1st person to be killed on a ride in Disneyland. He stood up
while riding the Matterhorn Bobsleds and was thrown to his death. (There
have been 7 deaths at Disneyland since its opening in 1955.)
Jean-Paul Marat - knifed while taking a bath.
Pete Maravich - basketball player - heart attack while playing a game of
pick-up basketball.
Mary Ann Nicholls - prostitute - fed poisoned grapes and disemboweled by
Jack the Ripper.
Elvis Presley - accidental drug overdose. He died while sitting on the
toilet.
Keith Relf - musician (The Yardbirds) - electrocuted playing guitar in the
bathtub.
Hugh Scrutton - first confirmed Unabomber victim. On Dec. 11, the computer
rental store owner opened a package which had been left outside his door.
Leon Trotsky - Russian leader - assassinated in Mexico with an ice-pick,
died the next day.
Sir William Wallace - Scottish rebel - executed by being hanged for a short
time, taken down still breathing and having his bowels torn out and burned.
His head was then struck off, and his body divided into quarters, the
punishment known as 'hanged, drawn and quartered'. His head was placed on a
pole on London Bridge, his right arm above the bridge in Newcastle, his left
arm was sent to Berwick, his right foot and limb to Perth and his left
quarter to Aberdeen where it was buried in what is now the wall at St.
Machars Cathedral.
Tennessee Williams - writer - choked to death on a on a nose spray bottle
cap that accidentally dropped into his mouth while he was using the spray.
He was 71.
How the heck is this off-topic?
I'd say Bob Crane belongs on this list.
So does Joan of Arc, or Giordano Bruno or at least one historical
figure who was burned alive ... you know, just as a representative.
Why is Michael Findlay on the list, but Vic Morrow isn't? Is there a
rule permitting only one "rotary club" member per list?
My favorite of these is Tennessee Williams. I wonder whether that was
listed as a potential adverse side-effect of the nose drops.
--
_+_ From the catapult of |If anyone disagrees with any statement I make, I
_|70|___:)=}- J.D. Baldwin |am quite prepared not only to retract it, but also
\ / bal...@panix.com|to deny under oath that I ever made it. -T. Lehrer
***~~~~-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[...]
: Joselito (Jose Gomez) - Spanish bullfighter - fatally gored fighting his
: last bull.
What a much better story it would be if it had been his next-to-last one.
--
Sherwood Harrington
Boulder Creek, California
Oh, yeah, I forgot: wasn't there an imminent DNA-related
"breakthrough" in this case a year or two back? I never heard
anything about it again. I guess nothing ever came of it.
And ...
> Chris Hubbock - newscaster 1970 --- shot herself in the head during
> a prime time news broadcast on Florida TV station WXLT-TV. She died
> 14 hours later
I'm almost positive we established here that this one really happened
in 1974.
Also, wasn't one of the stars of "Hee Haw"
brutally murdered, along with his wife, when their house was robbed? This
happened in the early 1970s, I believe. I don't recall which person it was
that was killed.
ED
"Ed Varner" <evar...@aol.comm> wrote in message
news:20020218212015...@mb-fq.aol.com...
>Catherine the Great - Empress of Russia 1796 --- a stroke, while going to
>the bathroom.
>Elvis Presley - accidental drug overdose. He died while sitting on the
>toilet.
I'm starting to see a pattern here.
--
"...and also staring Rosie O'Donnell as Baron Harkonnen"
Chuck Bridgeland, chuckbri at computerdyn dot com
http://www.essex1.com/people/chuckbri
> Wasn't Jayne Mansfield decapitated in an auto wreck/
No. What police initially thought was Jayne's head was actually just
her wig.
> In article <u73en2...@corp.supernews.com>,
> The Grim Sweeper <t...@innvalid.edu> wrote:
>
>> In article <3C71B866...@ix.netcom.com>,
>> Jeanie <ka...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Wasn't Jayne Mansfield decapitated in an auto wreck/
>>
>> I believe she was merely scalped.
>
> Upon further review, it seems she merely lost her wig..and died of other
> trauma.
>
> - TGS
You're right. I was a newsperson at the scene. Let's put both the
decapitation and scalped myths to sleep for once and for all.
--
Jack
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I don't think this qualifies as a celebrity death, since she became famous as a
result of her murder.
>Jeffrey Dahmer - beaten to death with a broomstick by a fellow inmate at the
>Columbia Correctional Institute (talk about sweeping out the trash)
The best part was that the jagged end of the broomstick handle was shoved into
Dahmer's eye when the killer was through beating him to death.
>Mark Maples - 1st person to be killed on a ride in Disneyland. He stood up
>while riding the Matterhorn Bobsleds and was thrown to his death. (There
>have been 7 deaths at Disneyland since its opening in 1955.)
>
He also should not qualify since he was a nobody who became famous as a result
of his death.
>Mary Ann Nicholls - prostitute - fed poisoned grapes and disemboweled by
>Jack the Ripper.
Ditto.
>Hugh Scrutton - first confirmed Unabomber victim. On Dec. 11, the computer
>rental store owner opened a package which had been left outside his door.
Ditto.
I would think Mussolini would be on this list, as his death was undoubtedly
gruesome.
Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man
"The probability of one person being right increases in a direct porportion to
the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong"
Phil Hartman bought it in his sleep.
I've heard that Jack Cassidy had a death wish about dying in a fire; friends of
his who I've seen interviewed after his death had mentioned this. He also
drank heavily, and at the time of his death he was probably depressed that both
his sons (David and Shaun) had become much more famous as singer/TV stars than
he ever would be. I could see how this could push a celebrity over the edge.
As for Bob Crane, he should be on the list also. I'm curious about the Crane
biopic that is in the works now that will deal with his relationship with John
Carpenter (not the director, but another guy with the same name who may have
killed him); Greg Kinnear will play Bob Crane.
Since not every death was spectacularly gruesome, I think the
death of Charles Drew belongs; Drew was the African American doctor who
developed the process of separating plasma from blood, but died of
injuries from an auto accident in the South where the people in the
emergency room refused to give him a transfusion because of his race.
Can't have blood mixing, now can we?
MattH
Mpoconnor7 wrote:
>
> >Cheri Jo Bates - 1st victim of the Zodiac killer. Murdered at Riverside
> >Community College in California, her jugular and larynx were severed.
>
> I don't think this qualifies as a celebrity death, since she became famous as a
> result of her murder.
>
> >Mark Maples - 1st person to be killed on a ride in Disneyland. He stood up
> >while riding the Matterhorn Bobsleds and was thrown to his death. (There
> >have been 7 deaths at Disneyland since its opening in 1955.)
> >
>
> He also should not qualify since he was a nobody who became famous as a result
> of his death.
>
> >Mary Ann Nicholls - prostitute - fed poisoned grapes and disemboweled by
> >Jack the Ripper.
>
> Ditto.
>
> >Hugh Scrutton - first confirmed Unabomber victim. On Dec. 11, the computer
> >rental store owner opened a package which had been left outside his door.
>
> Ditto.
>
These weren't "nobody"s. They were somebodies we just hadn't heard
about.
he was *so* talented! near the end, he play a magician on 'columbo' who was
really an ex ss officer. very convincing.
linda darnell was scared of fire. doing the death scene in 'anna and the
king of siam' was pure torture for her. she died when the couc she was
lying on engulfed in flames from a cigarette she had been smoking before.
(my mom always told the heroine story about her: she died searching for a
child in the fire, not knowing the kid had escaped.)
other gruesomes (well, *i* wouldn't have wanted to find them) : jean seberg,
lupe velez, clara blandick.
jamison
How about James Dean, Natilie Wood and Sal Mineo?
bob
"Strange events permit themselves the luxury of occuring in strange places." - Charlie Chan
"David McNamara" <dcm...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>Catherine the Great - Empress of Russia 1796 --- a stroke, while going to
>the bathroom.
>
>Aleksandr II (Aleksandr Nikolaevich) - Czar of Russia --- assassinated by a
>bomb which tore off his legs, ripped open his belly and mutilated his face.
>
Nicholas, Alexandra, Anastasia, and the other kids -- firing squad in
a rural basement. At first, bullets bounced off Anastasia because she
was wearing, effectively, bulletproof underwear which she had made by
sewing the family diamonds into her clothes to hide them from the
Bolsheviki. That's a lotta diamonds!
Hector Berlioz, stabbed himself in the foot with the baton while
conducting a symphony orchestra. Died of infection.
(He liked to conduct with a REALLY BIG baton -- sort of like a drum
major's staff)
I always liked Jack Cassidy, and I think if he had not died before his 50th
birthday he probably would have become a successful character actor in movies.
He was a scene stealer in everything he ever starred in, and he had a memorable
small role in "The Eiger Sanction" about a year before his death.
His biggest mistake (besides falling asleep while smoking) was in turning down
the Ted Baxter role on the MTM show; the part was written for him and he passed
on it and instead wound up playing Ted Knight's brother in a couple episodes.
That's like saying Nicole Simpson was a celebrity, but who knew her before she
died? An ordinary person becoming famous simply because of the circumstances
of his or her death should not qualify as a "celebrity" death.
I think it was String Bean.
Loki
Oh, good lord.
There are still educated people who believe this hoary old UL? Hitler
probably snubbed him at the awards ceremony, too. And then Drew's
Doberman ... coughed up the *fingers* of the racist admissions clerk!
He'd been hiding in the closet all along.
No, but that really was her Chihuahua a layin in the road
Cindy
Actually, that's a very popular UL.
It cost money for the full text of Washington Post articles, so I didn't buy
it, but here's what I could get for free...
quote:
ARMED WITH THE TRUTH IN A FIGHT FOR LIVES
JARVIS HOPES ENDING MYTH ABOUT CHARLES DREW'S DEATH WILL DRAW BLACK DONORS
Article 4 of 8 found
Patrice Gaines
Washington Post Staff Writer
April 10, 1994; Page b5
Section: METRO
Word Count: 877
Once the myth was created, it took on a life of its own, landing in history
books and newspaper articles. Now Charlene Drew Jarvis wants to destroy the
myth that her famous father, Dr. Charles R. Drew, the blood bank pioneer, died
because a white hospital refused to give him a blood transfusion. Jarvis
thinks the truth might save lives. "He used his life to save others. He would
not want his life to be an impediment to stop other people from saving lives,"
said Jarvis, who .........
and that's where the WP cuts it off. The full article can be purchased at the
Post website.
--
kay w
Address munged. AOL isn't necessarily comatose, evidence to the contrary not
withstanding.
How about two of the most bizarre/gruesome:
Ramon Novarro, actor:
If one can believe Hollywood Babylon (99% sure I read it there many
years ago), he was tortured and murdered; found with a dildo,
presumably one he himself owned, in his mouth.
At least I remember it as being in his mouth; my wife remembers it
being elswhere.
Lupe Valez (actress):
Commited suicide but wished her body to be found nude in bed holding
a bouquet of flowers; a lasting monument to her beauty.
Unfortunately, the pills she took made her sick and as she ran to the
bathroom to throw up, she slipped and fell headfirst into the toilet,
knocked herself out and died with her head in the bowl.
Oops.
RRK
Seriously, folks, this can't be true. I mean, she'd be competing with
the dog for slurping rights.
Slim something.
Bim
"The puritan hated bear-baiting, not because it gave pain to the bear, but
because it gave pleasure to the spectators."-Thomas B Macaulay
Maria: Marry sir, sometimes he is a kind of puritan
Sir Andrew: O! If I thought that, I'd beat him like a dog
You're passing along an urban legend. The following can be found by
calling up Google Groups, going to alt.folklore.urban, then searching
for "Dr. Charles Drew."
From The Washington Post, 23 March 1996:
"The Drew Legend"
Copyright 1996 by The Washington Post
[...]
... (A)n odd thing happened: Dr. Drew's death--or, to be more
accurate, a widely accepted account of his death--became better known
even than his life. It was something that many people simply "knew"
for a fact: that the physician who had helped develop blood plasma
bled to death after a southern hospital refused him treatment because
of his race.
The story wasn't true. As writer Spencie Love notes in a new
book on Dr. Drew (published by the University of North Carolina
Press), the doctor--who was traveling to Georgia with two colleagues
on April 1, 1950, when he apparently fell asleep at the wheel and
crashed--received good, standard emergency medical treatment at the
small North Carolina hospital where he was taken, but could not be
saved. Members of the Drew family (including his daughter Charlene
Drew Jarvis, a city council member) and others have attempted over the
years to correct what Ms. Love calls "the Drew legend," with limited
success. "I've been trying to bury Charlie Drew for 32 years,"
remarked one of the doctors who was with him on the fatal trip in 1982
[sic]. "I don't know how often I have to say what happened to get it
right."
[...]
The Drew legend could be made into an Oliver Stone movie: the
"father" of blood plasma denied a lifesaving transfusion because of
his race. Ms. Love does it the better way, though: With footnotes,
bibliography and careful documentation, she seeks to get at "the truth
Charles Drew bore witness to...that we all indeed are one blood. Race
itself, as history and science reveal, is but another cultural myth."
She lets the facts spoil a good story in order to tell a much better
one.
--
Larry Palletti East Point/Atlanta, Georgia
www.palletti.com www.booksonscreen.com
Opinionated, but lovable
> I've heard that Jack Cassidy had a death wish about dying in a fire;
friends of
> his who I've seen interviewed after his death had mentioned this. He also
> drank heavily, and at the time of his death he was probably depressed that
both
> his sons (David and Shaun) had become much more famous as singer/TV stars
than
> he ever would be. I could see how this could push a celebrity over the
edge.
>
> Michael O'Connor
Certainly Harry Chapin should be added. Hopefully Jack was in a drunken
stooper and died from smoke before the flames killed him. But poor Harry
was wide awake, trapped in his car.
Having said that, if there's room for morbid humor, several years ago I
listened as a VERY nervous speaker at a Chamber of Commerce luncheon began
by saying that a recent survey showed that Americans' #1 fear was Public
Speaking...
followed by death by fire.
Ray Arthur
She died in a house fire at the age of 29 with her grandmother and 2
sons. James Dean had been a frequent visitor to her home when she was a
teenager--much to her mother's displeasure.
Here's a forum posting about her:
http://www.liketelevision.com/web1/joan/wwwboard/75.html
Nell
If one can call any Major League Baseball player a celebrity, there are loads
of gruesome deaths (all of which can be found at www.thedeadballera.com).
Len Koenecke, Outfielder for the Brooklyn Dodgers, was beaten to death with
fire extinguisher while on a plane flight. His killer was a member of the crew.
Eddie Gaedel, the midget who played one game for the St. Louis Browns in 1950,
died of a heart attack after being severely beaten in a mugging.
Catcher Walt Letrian of the Phillies was killed when a car plowed into him
while he was walking, pining him to a wall.
Catcher Bo Diaz was killed when the Satellite Dish he was adjusting fell on him
and crushed him.
Hall of Famer Ed Delahanty fell of the docks near Niagara Falls, his battered
and crushed body was found the next day.
Pitcher Lynn McGlothen was burned to death in a Mobile Home Fire.
and my all time fav -
Pitcher Don Rudolph was killed when he was crushed by a Dump Truck.
The List goes on and on.
RD
Judge Not - Lest Ye Be Judged Yourself - You Moron
> >Elvis Presley - accidental drug overdose. He died while sitting on the
> >toilet.
> I'm starting to see a pattern here.
Lenny Bruce ... Drug overdose while sitting on a toilet.
>
> Certainly Harry Chapin should be added. Hopefully Jack was in a drunken
> stooper and died from smoke before the flames killed him. But poor Harry
> was wide awake, trapped in his car.
>
> Having said that, if there's room for morbid humor, several years ago I
> listened as a VERY nervous speaker at a Chamber of Commerce luncheon began
> by saying that a recent survey showed that Americans' #1 fear was Public
> Speaking...
>
>
> followed by death by fire.
>
> Ray Arthur
I would add Yankee catcher Thurman Munson. I seem to remember that his
injuries in the plane crash paralyzed him but he actually died in the
resulting fire. Almost as tragic as Lou Gehrig, which was also
gruesome.
R. Bud Dwyer. Need I say more?
> Catherine the Great - Empress of Russia 1796 --- a stroke, while going to
> the bathroom.
Right. It WASN'T from a broken horse harness.
> Michael Findlay - horror film maker 1977 --- decapitated by helicopter blade
On the set of the Twilight Zone? If so, also Vic Morrow and a child actor.
> Bobby Fuller --- his badly beaten body was discovered in a parked car in Los
> Angeles. His death was attributed to asphyxia through the forced inhalation
> of gasoline.
Note especially the word "forced."
> John Glasscock - musician (Jethro Tull) - heart infection caused by an
> abscessed tooth
Endocarditis, sounds like. Not an uncommon complication from dental work.
> Keith Relf - musician (The Yardbirds) - electrocuted playing guitar in the
> bathtub.
But why?
> Sir William Wallace - Scottish rebel - executed by being hanged for a short
> time, taken down still breathing and having his bowels torn out and burned.
> His head was then struck off, and his body divided into quarters, the
> punishment known as 'hanged, drawn and quartered'. His head was placed on a
> pole on London Bridge, his right arm above the bridge in Newcastle, his left
> arm was sent to Berwick, his right foot and limb to Perth and his left
> quarter to Aberdeen where it was buried in what is now the wall at St.
> Machars Cathedral.
William "Captain Kidd" Bonney -- sentenced to hang for several years
in a gibbet over the river Thames. His corpse was tarred on a regular
basis to slow decomposition.
Stringbean?
>
David "Stringbean" Akeman
--
Corby Gilmore
ai...@freenet.carleton.ca
Bob Champ
Folks:
Are'nt we forgetting about 4 celebrities who suffered the most gruesome
deaths of all this past September, namely:
David Angell
Berry Berenson
Barbara Olson
Garnet "Ace" Bailey
--
Corby Gilmore
ai...@freenet.carleton.ca
>I would add Yankee catcher Thurman Munson. I seem to remember that his
>injuries in the plane crash paralyzed him but he actually died in the
>resulting fire.
Then there's golfer Payne Stewart, who died before the airplane
crashed. No fire, but lots of ice, according to the chaser pilots.
http://www.golfweb.com/u/ce/multi/pgatour/0%2C1977%2C1506439%2C00.html
So too Jane Mansfield... decapitated in car accident
Sarns
I had heard that the top third of her head was sliced off
Sarns
Coolies..urban myth material... *stored in memory archive* lol
Sarns
> Catholic Popes who died during sex: Leo VII (936-9) died of a heart
attack,
> John VII (955-64) was bludgeoned to death by the husband of the woman he
was
> with at the time, John XIII (965-72) was also murdered by a jealous
husband,
> Pope Paul II (1467-71) allegedly died while being sodomized by a page boy.
>
> Aleksandr II (Aleksandr Nikolaevich) - Czar of Russia --- assassinated by
a
> bomb which tore off his legs, ripped open his belly and mutilated his
face.
Edward II of England, died after having a red-hot poker shoved up his nether
regions.
Ed Varner wrote:
> I would add Bob Crane, Phil Hartman, and Jack Cassidy to the list.
>
> Also, wasn't one of the stars of "Hee Haw"
> brutally murdered, along with his wife, when their house was robbed? This
> happened in the early 1970s, I believe. I don't recall which person it was
> that was killed.
>
> ED
Stringbean, the scarecrow character on early Hee Haw episodes. Some B&E crooks
were breaking into his farmhouse. He came out with his shotgun, but when he
confronted the two assailants he was shot before he could react.
John
Linda Darnell burned to death in a fire.
JN
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Stringbean.
> Attila the Hun 453 AD --- bled to death from a nosebleed on his wedding
> night.
I nearly went this route. I had a weak blood vessel high in the nose
and also had high blood pressure. Very painless, but VERY unpleasant
to bleed like a faucet for an hour. Oh, and yeah, I survived and eventually
after a second incident, the vessel was cauterized.
"Mpoconnor7" <mpoco...@aol.comnojunk> wrote
>
> Phil Hartman bought it in his sleep.
>
Not as I understand it. The autopsy noted a defensive wound
(shot through the hand he held up to shield himself).
Talk about being pissed!
--
Sanford M. Manley -
Your strength may be measured by what you can hold,
but your freedom is measured by what you can release
- AnsaMan
:> Wasn't Jayne Mansfield decapitated in an auto wreck/
: No. What police initially thought was Jayne's head was actually just
: her wig.
Didn't stop Malcolm Forbes from repeating the decapitation
story in THEY WENT THAT-A-WAY,his book on how various
notables died.
(He later died of a heart attack on a couch,though it's
rumored that he died of AIDS...Donald Trump claims that
Forbes had a thing for teenage boys,which might explain
the not-explained-at-the-time divorce Forbes had in his
later years).
-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Amen.
My four-dead-lives-in-one-long-life postings certainly
cover a fair number of untimely and unpleasant deaths...
I'll mention the silent film star Martha Mansfield
(July 14th 1899-November 30th 1923) who was on the set
of her film THE WARRENS OF VIRGINIA,dressed in a full
Civil War Era costume,which was ignited by a carelessly
tossed match...she burned like a torch!
Not my first mention of her on this newsgroup.
http://www.classicimages.com/1997/october97/mansfiel.html
:>Catherine the Great - Empress of Russia 1796 --- a stroke, while going to
:>the bathroom.
:>Elvis Presley - accidental drug overdose. He died while sitting on the
:>toilet.
: I'm starting to see a pattern here.
George II of Great Britain etc. died in similar circumstances
October 25th 1760.
And your bride was patient?
>On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 07:59:06 GMT, Bob Schlesinger <bobs...@flash.net> wrote:
>
>>Don't forget Wally Cox (Mr. Peepers, the voice of Underdog, the original
>>Hollywood Squares) who died in a housefire in L.A. around 1973 ....
>
>
>No he didn't. He died of a heart attack.
I read elsewhere (for some reason I think it was in a bio of his best
friend, Marlon Brando) that it was an OD.
Loki
> Chuck Bridgeland <chuc...@computerdyn.com> wrote:
> : On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 19:12:10 -0500, David McNamara
<dcm...@bellsouth.net>
> : wrote:
>
> :>Catherine the Great - Empress of Russia 1796 --- a stroke, while going
to
> :>the bathroom.
>
> :>Elvis Presley - accidental drug overdose. He died while sitting on the
> :>toilet.
>
> : I'm starting to see a pattern here.
>
> George II of Great Britain etc. died in similar circumstances
> October 25th 1760.
So he died on the throne, then!
No, the nurse.
Nor were there any grapes at "Polly" Nichols' death scene.
A stem from a bunch of grapes was found by journalists among the
refuse in Dutfield's Yard, Berner Street, where "Long Liz" Stride
was killed. Since then, the sensationalistic press and some of
the more slipshod Ripper authors have tried to associate grapes
with the other victims, some even going so far as to claim that
the (nonexistent) grapes were drugged in order to sedate the
victims.
--
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WAR IS PEACE * FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
MICROSOFT IS STRENGTH
The same story is told about Bessie Smith. She died in 1937 after the car
she was riding in was hit by a truck and rolled over. She survived the
crash but bled to death before she made it to the hospital. The story
persists that she was taken first to a whites-only hospital and was turned
away, but it's hard to find confirmation one way or the other.
aemilia
Depends on your definition of gruesome, I guess. To me it means
particularly horrifying, messy and/or painful for the victim. Death by
gunshot may be messy and disturbing for a bystander to see, but if the
victim dies instantly, it's not necessarily gruesome. Death by fire or an
accident in which the victim gets horrifically mangled and/or slowly
bleeds to death - that's gruesome.
> I would add Yankee catcher Thurman Munson. I seem to remember that his
> injuries in the plane crash paralyzed him but he actually died in the
> resulting fire.
A lot of famous athletes have died in plane crashes, including Knute Rockne,
Rocky Marciano, Roberto Clemente and Payne Stewart.
Only from memory, but IIRC, Munson was unable to free himself from his
seatbelt because he was trapped in the wreckage.
> Almost as tragic as Lou Gehrig, which was also gruesome.
Gehrig was the Yankee captain from 1935 to 1941. The next Yankee
captain was Thurman Munson ... 1976 to August 2nd, 1979.
> http://www.golfweb.com/u/ce/multi/pgatour/0%2C1977%2C1506439%2C00.html
A few celebrities that died via plane crashes:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/Planecrash_history990717.html
Starr
john lennon didn't die instantly, though.
jamison
Everybody dies instantly.
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What was so brutal about it? He was just hot like hundreds of people around the
world each and every day of the year.
Terry Ellsworth
Why, Terry ... this is a whole new side of you!
I thought Wally committed suicide.
Ray Arthur
Gruesome, but quick.
Ray Arthur
> > john lennon didn't die instantly, though.
>
> Everybody dies instantly.
ack! we're back to the "she drowned, but lived" thing again!
ok, he was shot, but was still talking, reacting, and suffering until his
demise.
jamison
Fire...Heart Attack...Drugs...Suicide. Mr Peepers died a thousand
deaths.
Slipslope
The IMDb says he died of tuberculosis on 15 February 1973.
This is beginning to sound like an Agatha Christie novel.
>Munson was unable to free himself from his
>seatbelt because he was trapped in the wreckage.
Munson was paralyzed after breaking his neck due the impact of the crash. I
remember reading somewhere that Munson chose not to wear a shoulder harness.
Tom
He suffered five massive gunshot wounds to the chest, and was conscious and in
pain before he died en route to the hospital. I'd call that pretty gruesome.
Chuck
>Len Koenecke, Outfielder for the Brooklyn Dodgers, was beaten to death with
fire extinguisher while on a plane flight. His killer was a member of the crew.
Koenecke was trying to hijack the plane. It was one of the first hijackings
and it happened in 1935.
Tom
Erik L.
Erich
"I'm like a tree, I'm all root, hep to the jep what it's all aboot."--Cab
Calloway
"And so it was, baby/As the miller told his tale/Better face it first, just go
see/Turn a whiter shade of pale"--The World's Worst Karaoke Transcription
--
Sherwood Harrington
Boulder Creek, California
> >Peter the Great. Bladder infection stopped up his urethra, bladder
> >inflated until in his pain he opened it up by stabbing himself. OW!
> He didn't have so great a peter after all.
Nor did Judea's King Herod:
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?fe20020124rh.htm
Yech.
JP
"Matt Hucke" <hu...@cynico.net> wrote in message
news:a4tv0p$7q7$1...@gail.ripco.com...
> In article <20020218225109...@mb-mh.aol.com>,
> Mpoconnor7 <mpoco...@aol.comnojunk> wrote:
> >>Mary Ann Nicholls - prostitute - fed poisoned grapes and disemboweled by
> >>Jack the Ripper.
> >
> >Ditto.
>
> Nor were there any grapes at "Polly" Nichols' death scene.
>
> A stem from a bunch of grapes was found by journalists among the
> refuse in Dutfield's Yard, Berner Street, where "Long Liz" Stride
> was killed. Since then, the sensationalistic press and some of
> the more slipshod Ripper authors have tried to associate grapes
> with the other victims, some even going so far as to claim that
> the (nonexistent) grapes were drugged in order to sedate the
> victims.
>
>
> --
> Matt Hucke (hu...@cynico.com)
> http://www.cynico.net/~hucke/
> WAR IS PEACE * FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
> MICROSOFT IS STRENGTH
>
Actually, to be honest, I don't really care. If you live by the sword ...
Terry Ellsworth
>
> In the previous article, lynn <lynnNOS...@gbronline.com> wrote:
> > john lennon didn't die instantly, though.
>
> Everybody dies instantly.
and the main cause - shortness (failure) of breathe.
> One celebrity, many gruesome deaths: Mr. Bill.
A coward suffers a thousand deaths while ...
And I have suffered thru each and every demise of Mr. Bill.
Oh Mr. Bill. Mr. Bill ...
> > > followed by death by fire.
>
> > I would add Yankee catcher Thurman Munson. I seem to remember that his
> > injuries in the plane crash paralyzed him but he actually died in the
> > resulting fire.
>
> A lot of famous athletes have died in plane crashes, including Knute Rockne,
> Rocky Marciano, Roberto Clemente and Payne Stewart.
>
> Only from memory, but IIRC, Munson was unable to free himself from his
> seatbelt because he was trapped in the wreckage.
>
You could easily be right, I am operating from memory also. The main
point is that he did neither perish or lose consciousness in the crash
but survived to burn alive.
> > Almost as tragic as Lou Gehrig, which was also gruesome.
>
> Gehrig was the Yankee captain from 1935 to 1941. The next Yankee
> captain was Thurman Munson ... 1976 to August 2nd, 1979.
As ticked as I am he left my home team A's, hope Jason doesn't go for
the Yankee captaincy (hey, is that really a word?) at any time based on
the above.
Russ
Brought ashore in chains in Woods Hole Massachusetts... and there is a
great little pub named in his honor in that town.
May I also add to the list:
King Philip (Metacomet) - decapitated and his head was stuck on a pike
outside the gates of the Plymouth colony where it remained for the
next twenty years.
Jim Croce - decapitated in a plane crash.
I dunno if Pete Maravich qualifies... tragic yes, but not particularly
gruesome... and he died doing what he loved most.
And then there was the Quebec Nordiques goalie who had his throat
slahed by a skate blade and almost bled to death on the ice. I forget
who this was... Danny Bouchard?
>And then there was the Quebec Nordiques goalie who had his throat
>slahed by a skate blade and almost bled to death on the ice.
That was Clint Malarchuck of the Buffalo Sabres in 1989.
Tom
--It was Clint Malarchuk, who did manage to recover and continue his career.
--
Allen
Jayne Mansfield was *not* decapitated in the accident. That report came about
because someone saw her wig lying in the back of the car and thought it was her
head. She actually died of massive head and chest injuries.
DES
"There's coffee in that nebula."
(With our luck it would be decaf.)
remove "nospam" from my addy to reply.
How was Lou Gehrig's death gruesome? He died of ALS, which is now called Lou
Gehrig's Disease.
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