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Hoodoo

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May 24, 2005, 4:04:07 PM5/24/05
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Jim Morrison the Cowboy?

Published: 2005-05-24
http://www.soulshine.ca/news/newsarticle.php?nid=2020

Rollingstone.com reports that photographer Gerald Pitts claims to
have found former Doors singer Jim Morrison in rural Oregon
raising horses for the rodeo. Pitts says that Morrison faked his
own death in order to avoid being bumped off by the French
government.

Pitts, who makes a living reporting on the rodeo circuit, says
Morrison has surfaced now to promote a rodeo movie he’s been
working on. Many dismiss the photographer’s claim as a dim-witted
promotional tactic to exploit the celebrity of the dead rock star.

Jim Morrison died in 1971 of an apparent heart attack at the home
he and girlfriend Pamela Courson were sharing in Paris, France.
The Doors’ hits include “Light my Fire,” “Hello, I Love You,”
“Touch Me,” and “L.A. Woman.”

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It's a big old goofy world. - John Prine

robertc...@yahoo.com

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May 24, 2005, 5:18:17 PM5/24/05
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Hoodoo wrote:
> Jim Morrison the Cowboy?
>
> Published: 2005-05-24
> http://www.soulshine.ca/news/newsarticle.php?nid=2020
>
> Rollingstone.com reports that photographer Gerald Pitts claims to
> have found former Doors singer Jim Morrison in rural Oregon
> raising horses for the rodeo. Pitts says that Morrison faked his
> own death in order to avoid being bumped off by the French
> government.

I would be delighted if this were true. But I have written a poem about
Morrison that is premised on his death, and it is about to be
published. If it turns out he is alive--and I would wager money that
he's not--I plan to sue. On what grounds? I haven't quite figured that
one out yet. But--"there ought to be a law."

I thought this kind of thing was limited to Elvis.

Bob Champ

homes...@netburner.net

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May 24, 2005, 6:04:02 PM5/24/05
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Judging from the photo used in the article, Morrison hasn't aged a bit.

Tommie Hicks

Chef Juke

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May 24, 2005, 7:23:16 PM5/24/05
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Dang. Just tell me whereabouts here that feller's hiding and I'll go
check and see for ya and report back to this here newsgroup...

Although, there is a LOT of Oregon that could be considered 'rural'


-Chef Juke
"EVERYbody Eats When They Come To MY House!"

Boron Elgar

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May 24, 2005, 8:51:56 PM5/24/05
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On 24 May 2005 15:04:02 -0700, homes...@netburner.net wrote:

>Judging from the photo used in the article, Morrison hasn't aged a bit.
>
>Tommie Hicks


He has probably been mainlining preservative.

Boron

Aje RavenStar

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May 24, 2005, 9:05:55 PM5/24/05
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"Hoodoo" <hoo...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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Heh. Ever read Jimmy Buffet's 'Where Is Joe Merchant?" (An excellent tale
stringing together a lot of Carribean stories and legends.........)


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Dan

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May 25, 2005, 12:04:18 AM5/25/05
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Boron Elgar wrote:
> On 24 May 2005 15:04:02 -0700, homes...@netburner.net wrote:
>
>
>>Judging from the photo used in the article, Morrison hasn't aged a bit.
>>
>>Tommie Hicks


Actually..this Oregon guy DOES look like Jim. Hmmmmmmm.... :-)

http://www.highway29.net/Jim.jpg

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Dan

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to
pause and reflect"
-Mark Twain


Bob Feigel

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May 25, 2005, 1:17:25 AM5/25/05
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On Tue, 24 May 2005 15:04:07 -0500, Hoodoo <hoo...@spamcop.net> wrote:

>Jim Morrison the Cowboy?

If that's Morrison, he sure looks better now than the last time I saw
him on Maui in 1970. Maybe he's been drinking embalming fluid ...


"It's not that I'm afraid to die. I just don't want to be there when it happens." - Woody Allen

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Oogie

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May 25, 2005, 6:45:40 AM5/25/05
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Rob Petrie wrote:

> x-no-archive: yes
>
> http://www.lp.org/article_85.shtml
>
> <robertc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1116969497.2...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> Apparently, not any longer.
>
> "Jim Morrison is alive and well and living in the U.S. heartland
> (midwest)."
>
>
I heard that Janis Joplin owns a hair salon in Galveston.

Oogie

James Neibaur

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May 25, 2005, 8:13:21 AM5/25/05
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in article cbcba$42945751$18e1ac5c$13...@allthenewsgroups.com, Oogie at
al_r...@yahoo.com wrote on 5/25/05 5:45 AM:

>>> I thought this kind of thing was limited to Elvis.
>>
>>
>> Apparently, not any longer.
>>
>> "Jim Morrison is alive and well and living in the U.S. heartland
>> (midwest)."
>>
>>
> I heard that Janis Joplin owns a hair salon in Galveston.

Y'know there is something about Janis Joplin faking her death to avoid the
trappings of fame that just doesn't work for me.

Of course these people are all dead, including Jim Morrison. We may wish
they were still around, but they're gone.

JN

Brad Ferguson

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May 25, 2005, 8:17:02 AM5/25/05
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In article <vg28911uj0ulq3obh...@4ax.com>, Bob Feigel
<b...@surfwriter.net.not> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 May 2005 15:04:07 -0500, Hoodoo <hoo...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> >Jim Morrison the Cowboy?
>
> If that's Morrison, he sure looks better now than the last time I saw
> him on Maui in 1970. Maybe he's been drinking embalming fluid ...


What you generally try to do in these cases is compare ears, which
works well enough. The ears in the '63 and '05 shots are similar but
not the same.

Pretty spooky resemblance, though, generally speaking.

Glitter Ninja

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May 25, 2005, 11:00:43 AM5/25/05
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Brad Ferguson <thir...@frXOXed.net> writes:
><b...@surfwriter.net.not> wrote:

>> If that's Morrison, he sure looks better now than the last time I saw
>> him on Maui in 1970. Maybe he's been drinking embalming fluid ...

>What you generally try to do in these cases is compare ears, which
>works well enough. The ears in the '63 and '05 shots are similar but
>not the same.

>Pretty spooky resemblance, though, generally speaking.

The nose is also a very close resemblance. The eyes, specifically the
eyelids, aren't so similar, but it may be just because it's a single photo
compared to a professional artsy album cover shot. If the guy was able to
somehow prove he was Morrison, I'd believe it, though. If any celeb faked
their own death, Morrison's would be the most believable.

Stacia

Brad Ferguson

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May 25, 2005, 11:48:13 AM5/25/05
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In article <d723ur$lcu$1...@news.xmission.com>, Glitter Ninja
<sta...@xmission.com> wrote:


The only celebrity I can think of who may have successfully faked her
death is Valérie Quennessen, probably most famous for playing the third
wheel in the 1982 film "Summer Lovers." She supposedly died in a car
wreck in France in 1989, but there doesn't seem to be any evidence that
any such car wreck actually happened. She's somewhat of a cult figure
because of "Summer Lovers," but no one's got a web site with pics of
the crash scene, her home, her grave, or anything. There's also some
evidence that Quennessen had faked her death once before.

Alan Hope

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May 25, 2005, 12:08:54 PM5/25/05
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Oogie goes:

>I heard that Janis Joplin owns a hair salon in Galveston.

Somebody should introduce her to Phil Spector.


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AH


Alan Hope

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May 25, 2005, 12:11:20 PM5/25/05
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Glitter Ninja goes:

But who the hell thinks Morrison would have gotten thin? The man was a
porker in real life -- never mind those photos on show. He was a
lard-ass, and the man in the '05 photo is rangy and thin. Case
dismissed.


--
AH


Hoodoo

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May 25, 2005, 1:56:06 PM5/25/05
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Brad Ferguson wrote:
> The only celebrity I can think of who may have successfully faked her
> death is Valérie Quennessen, probably most famous for playing the third
> wheel in the 1982 film "Summer Lovers." She supposedly died in a car
> wreck in France in 1989, but there doesn't seem to be any evidence that
> any such car wreck actually happened. She's somewhat of a cult figure
> because of "Summer Lovers," but no one's got a web site with pics of
> the crash scene, her home, her grave, or anything. There's also some
> evidence that Quennessen had faked her death once before.

That's interesting as I was curious about her since seeing that
movie about a year ago. After watching the film I accessed the
IMDb and was dismayed to learn that she had died. Is there an
online location that you can cite regarding the possible faking
of the death report(s)?

Brad Ferguson

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May 25, 2005, 4:02:45 PM5/25/05
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In article <4294BC36...@spamcop.net>, Hoodoo <hoo...@spamcop.net>
wrote:

Here's one. This is from Uncle Scoopy at

http://www.imagingartist.com/022403.htm

> Summer Lovers (1982)
>
> The big question related to this film is this - whatever happened to
> Valerie Quennessen? Her two young co-stars, Daryl Hannah and Peter
> Gallagher, went on to be mid-level stars. Valerie disappeared
> altogether. Without a trace. For years.
>
> She made this movie (August 1982 release) and Conan the Barbarian (May
> 1982 release), did some French TV work about the same time, and then
> seemed to disappear from the face of the earth. As of 1997, nobody in
> the world seemed to have any information about her whereabouts in the
> previous 15 years. Then this story appeared in the newsgroup
> alt.obituaries in June of 1998:
>
> ...a while back I became acquainted with one of the cast members of the
> charming 1979 flick FRENCH POSTCARDS who had told me one of his
> co-stars, the French actress Valerie Quennessen (who later appeared in
> SUMMER LOVERS and CONAN THE BARBARIAN) had been killed in a car crash
> close to ten years ago. Later, I heard that the crash had taken place
> sometime in March of 1989, and that she had two children who survived
> her.
>
> All of the other sources I encountered were based on this same
> anonymous, unverified,
> a-guy-told-me-that-his-brother-told-him-and-it's-really-true report.
>
> One more clue turned up. IMDb recently unearthed a 1989 credit for
> Quennessen:
>
> <http://us.imdb.com/Details?0097484>
>
> Based on the IMDb listing, I guess she must have been alive in 1988 or
> 1989, and she must have been attempting a mini-comeback for some reason
> or another. Nobody seems to know what she was doing between 1983 and
> 1989. The fact that she has no further credits after 1989 seems to
> offer no refutation of the theory that she is dead but, frankly, at
> this point it is nothing but a theory.  She has no IMDb credits from
> 1984 to 1988, and she apparently wasn't dead then, so the recent gap
> doesn't prove she is dead now. She likes to disappear. She went
> underground and disappeared for six years in the 1980's, so she
> obviously is intensely private, and she may have done it
> again. It is
> reasonable to argue that the best way to keep people from looking for
> her would have been to have someone declare her dead.
>
> So ... who knows?
>
> I believe we are still waiting for the real story to emerge. I won't
> tell you she is still alive, but neither will I be surprised if she is.
> I do know this. It would make a great project for an investigative
> reporter, and it would make a great movie. Why did she disappear for
> six years? Why did she make her brief 1989 comeback? What happened
> after that? Did she really die, or did that comeback convince her that
> she needed to get away from showbiz forever?
>
> Here is the best bio of Quennessen I could find:
>
> <http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/4896/bio.html>
>
> but it basically stops in 1982, except for one sentence repeating the
> auto accident rumor.

The 1998 post here mentioning Quennessen was from Daevid, I think.
It's hard to sort out the googlish quoting in the archive.

(header changed)

Fritz Wuehler

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May 25, 2005, 5:38:48 PM5/25/05
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"robertc...@yahoo.com" <robertc...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I would be delighted if this were true. But I have written a poem about
> Morrison that is premised on his death, and it is about to be
> published. If it turns out he is alive--and I would wager money that
> he's not--I plan to sue. On what grounds? I haven't quite figured that
> one out yet. But--"there ought to be a law."
>
> I thought this kind of thing was limited to Elvis.

Elvis is raising horses in Oregon!?! I had no idea .... {g}

Bob Feigel

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May 25, 2005, 6:02:49 PM5/25/05
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On Wed, 25 May 2005 18:11:20 +0200, Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com>
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Au contraire ... an ear job and liposuction.

Alan Hope

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May 25, 2005, 6:19:47 PM5/25/05
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Bob Feigel goes:

>On Wed, 25 May 2005 18:11:20 +0200, Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com>
>wrote:
>>Glitter Ninja goes:
>>>Brad Ferguson <thir...@frXOXed.net> writes:
>>>><b...@surfwriter.net.not> wrote:

>>>>> If that's Morrison, he sure looks better now than the last time I saw
>>>>> him on Maui in 1970. Maybe he's been drinking embalming fluid ...

>>>>What you generally try to do in these cases is compare ears, which
>>>>works well enough. The ears in the '63 and '05 shots are similar but
>>>>not the same.

>>>>Pretty spooky resemblance, though, generally speaking.

>>> The nose is also a very close resemblance. The eyes, specifically the
>>>eyelids, aren't so similar, but it may be just because it's a single photo
>>>compared to a professional artsy album cover shot. If the guy was able to
>>>somehow prove he was Morrison, I'd believe it, though. If any celeb faked
>>>their own death, Morrison's would be the most believable.

>>But who the hell thinks Morrison would have gotten thin? The man was a
>>porker in real life -- never mind those photos on show. He was a
>>lard-ass, and the man in the '05 photo is rangy and thin. Case
>>dismissed.

>Au contraire ... an ear job and liposuction.

Liposuction, yeah right. I remember Jim Morrison, Senator. And the Jim
Morrison I remember would need to walk around all day with a Dyson
implanted in his embonpoint to look like that Harry Dean Stanton
look-alike pictured in the aforesaid er, pictures.

Come to think of it, has anyone checked if Harry Dean Stanton is still
alive? Any sign of him wanking in the bath? Heard humming Riders of
the Storm?


--
AH


Hoodoo

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May 25, 2005, 5:59:58 PM5/25/05
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Brad Ferguson wrote:

>>co-stars, the French actress Valerie Quennessen (who later appeared in
>>SUMMER LOVERS and CONAN THE BARBARIAN) had been killed in a car crash
>>close to ten years ago. Later, I heard that the crash had taken place
>>sometime in March of 1989, and that she had two children who survived
>>her.

Thanks for the info and links. If anyone were able to perform a
worthwhile investigation into Valerie, they'd obviously be best
served by keeping a close eye on her children.

Perhaps her extreme shyness caused her to later become a
mysterious recluse.

From:
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/4896/bio.html

Valerie did not seriously pursue acting until her late teens,
enrolling in acting classes to overcome what she considered an
almost terminal case of shyness.

Bob Feigel

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May 25, 2005, 6:53:29 PM5/25/05
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On Thu, 26 May 2005 00:19:47 +0200, Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com>
wrote:

To me, he looked close to death on Maui in 1970. Bloated and ruined. I
would have thought the climate to have been terribly uncomfortable for
someone in his condition, but maybe he didn't notice. A friend of mine
acted as chauffeur for Morrison and his mob. Drove around the island
in a big convertible with the top down smoking dope. Maui was a
paradise back then, but from what I saw it was totally wasted on them.
b

Brad Ferguson

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May 25, 2005, 7:10:58 PM5/25/05
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In article <4294F55E...@spamcop.net>, Hoodoo <hoo...@spamcop.net>
wrote:


I'm not sure she actually had children, but you never know. If
Quennessen is indeed dead, any kids of hers would now be in their late
teens (or even a little older) and, I presume, would have said
something about her by now to someone for publication.

I'm morally certain (without any evidence whatsoever) that Quennessen
purposefully withdrew after those circa-'82 films (the one in '89 seems
to have been a small part she was talked into doing) and that the
car-wreck story is just a tale embraced by her fans to account for her
continuing absence. There's that single original reference to the
wreck, and every other reference seems to have grown from that one.
There are no specifics -- no exact when, no exact where, no word from
anyone else who might have been involved. There's not even a name.
It's just a car wreck, somewhere in France, sometime in March 1989.
The story reeks of bogus-ness.

Who's living in Garbo's apartment these days?

Bob Feigel

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May 25, 2005, 7:29:05 PM5/25/05
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On Wed, 25 May 2005 18:11:20 +0200, Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com>
wrote:

>Glitter Ninja goes:

Forgot to mention that Morrison was definetly not a porker when I
first met him at UCLA. An arrogant mother, but not fat. b

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