OT: USS GEORGE H.W. BUSH (CVN-77)
MWB
I feel bad for this proud father. No GOD DAMNED need of this BULL SHIT.
It's an aircraft carrier.......FUCKING IDIOTS
GO NOVEMBER
Mark
Sarah Ehrett
I wonder if that man's son is a USS George HW Bush plank owner?
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq24-1.htm
A "plank owner" is an individual who was a member of the crew of a ship
when that ship was placed in commission. Originally, this term applied only
to crewmembers present at the ship's first commissioning. Today, however,
it is often applied to members of a recommissioning crew as well.
Go NAVY!
GO ARMY!
GO Mark and his three fine sons!
Bermuda999
> http://www.breitbart.tv/union-stagehand-fired-for-wearing-bush-hat-an...
>
> I feel bad for this proud father. No GOD DAMNED need of this BULL SHIT.
>
> It's an aircraft carrier.......FUCKING IDIOTS
>
> GO NOVEMBER
Breitbart? Really?
BobF
Previously on alt.obituaries Sat, 23 Oct 2010 00:47:56 -0400 to be
exact, "MWB" <bic...@gmail.com> wrote thusly:
>http://www.breitbart.tv/union-stagehand-fired-for-wearing-bush-hat-and-shirt/
>
>I feel bad for this proud father. No GOD DAMNED need of this BULL SHIT.
>
>It's an aircraft carrier.......FUCKING IDIOTS
Land of the free?
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Kris Baker
"Bermuda999" <bermu...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Breitbart? Really?
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He wasn't "fired". He was taken off the job, after refusing to
remove the sweatshirt.
BUT....what if it had been the opposite?
If a union worker at a Meg Whitman, Carly Fiorina or Christine
O'Donnell rally had showed up wearing an Obama sweatshirt
and cap....what would have happened?
Obama's the President, after all.....
Y'all don't think he'd been asked to remove Obama-tagged
clothing?
Kris
Brad Ferguson
<paralle...@ggmail.com> wrote:
I still want to know why a one-term failure gets an aircraft carrier
named after him.
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, Brad Ferguson <Brad Ferguson> wrote:
> I still want to know why a one-term failure gets an aircraft carrier
> named after him.
It's an even better question for SSN-23.
And then, on my not-entirely-related peeve list, we have USS Pearl
Harbor. You don't see the Brits trotting out HMS Singapore or HMS
Gallipoli.
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Kris Baker
"Brad Ferguson" <thir...@frXOXed.net> wrote in message
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I think they all do, don't they?
Kris
Charlene
Baldwin) wrote:
> In the previous article, Brad Ferguson <Brad Ferguson> wrote:
>
> > I still want to know why a one-term failure gets an aircraft carrier
> > named after him.
>
> It's an even better question for SSN-23.
Carter was a submariner, though, and a submarine isn't an aircraft
carrier.
>
> And then, on my not-entirely-related peeve list, we have USS Pearl
> Harbor. You don't see the Brits trotting out HMS Singapore or HMS
> Gallipoli.
The UK doesn't mess around with names. HMS Terror, HMS Destruction,
and HMS Furious might be the three best ship names ever.
wd46
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, Charlene <charlene...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I still want to know why a one-term failure gets an aircraft carrier
> > > named after him.
> >
> > It's an even better question for SSN-23.
>
Yes ... and GHWB was a carrier aviator.
> and a submarine isn't an aircraft carrier.
True. A submarine is way more expensive.
(Well, okay, not really. But *that* submarine might be.)
Brad Ferguson
<INVALID...@example.com.invalid> wrote:
> In the previous article, Brad Ferguson <Brad Ferguson> wrote:
> > I still want to know why a one-term failure gets an aircraft carrier
> > named after him.
>
> It's an even better question for SSN-23.
I know about that one, of course. Ditto. Can't we find better
namesakes?
Just so nobody thinks otherwise, I'm cool with CVN-76.
MWB
> Breitbart? Really?
>
> --------------------------------------
Here's a few I found using GOOGLE.
I didn't find it odd that MSNBC didn't have it. I even did a search and
found nothing.
Do me a favor...ask all the people you post under to check MSNBC and see if
it's there.
http://themoderatevoice.com/89706/union-fires-man-for-wearing-bush-sweatshirt-to-honor-son/
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5923954/stagehand_fired_by_his_union_for_wearing.html
GO NOVEMBER
Mark
MWB
"BobF" <b...@surfwriter.net.not> wrote in message
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Not no more Bob.
GO NOVEMBER
Mark
MWB
"Charlene" <charlene...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I love your icebreakers.
GO CHARLENE
Mark
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, Brad Ferguson <Brad Ferguson> wrote:
> > It's an even better question for SSN-23.
>
> I know about that one, of course. Ditto. Can't we find better
> namesakes?
I don't know, I don't really have a serious problem naming a carrier
after a carrier aviator who went on to become president ... or a
submarine after a submariner who went on to become president. And I'm
not even a little bit of a fan of either of those particular guys.
(Leave it up to me, though, and we'd have a whole lot cooler ship
names. They might not be very politically correct.)
The ones that irritate me are the non-military non-presidents: Carl
Vinson and John Stennis. I'm particularly annoyed by the latter,
because if we'd named that ship the Thomas Jefferson, that would have
been four consecutive hull numbers named after the four Rushmore
presidents. How freaking cool would that have been? Stupid Henry
Garrett.
islanders
> I still want to know why a one-term failure gets an aircraft carrier
> named after him.-
Just wait to see what the current one-term failure gets names after
him.
islanders
and has seamen.
MWB
"islanders" <islan...@aol.com> wrote in message
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IMHO...He's doing a good job in Afghanistan.
http://www.longwarjournal.org/
Every time one of these assholes go out of their cave to take a dump they
get picked off.
I want him to win this long war.
It has turned our family upside down and MY TROPHY WIFE and I are getting
tired.
GO PRESIDENT OBAMA
Mark
Shomeh Damoanee
> Bill Clinton will have a sub named after him because it is long round
> and has seamen.
This is ACTUALLY FUNNY. This is a sign of the end times
when he is actually funny.
--
Shomeh Damoanee
"The road to wisdom is paved with stupidity."
BobF
Previously on alt.obituaries Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:54:32 -0700 (PDT) to
be exact, islanders <islan...@aol.com> wrote thusly:
>Bill Clinton will have a sub named after him because it is long round
>and has seamen.
TA DA!!!! A genuine LOL Slam dunk ...
On the other hand:
--
> And there's the question I was waiting for: how are the lice?...r
She can now *eat* them for dinner, since they are cooked well-done.
Oh, I thought you meant 'rice'.
- From "The Sayings of Roy"
Bermuda999
> > Breitbart? Really?
>
> > --------------------------------------
>
> Here's a few I found using GOOGLE.
>
> I didn't find it odd that MSNBC didn't have it. I even did a search and
> found nothing.
But seriously. Breitbart? Really?
Kris Baker
"Brad Ferguson" <thir...@frXOXed.net> wrote in message
I'm cool with ALL of them.
Since when is it fashionable to dishonor our Presidents, both
in and out of office?
I have my favorites (having basically worked for all of them
Lyndon Johnson and Bill Clinton and saw how each affected
our defense)....but still realize that most did more good than
bad.
Kris
Kris Baker
But seriously. Breitbart? Really?
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Fox News doesn't have it, either. There's only one way to dig into
Fox News' site to see what they've had online, and it's to do an
outside-of-site site search on Google:
site:foxnews.com "Duane Hammond"
No one's making a big deal about it. Why?
Because it's just a local union issue that the right-wing blogs are
trying to inflame right before the elections?
The only legitimate news source I can find it on, is LA Times.
The local paper.
Kris
Brad Ferguson
<paralle...@ggmail.com> wrote:
I don't think ships should be named after the living, and I don't think
ships should be named after presidents whose worth to history has yet
to be determined. I guess I would have felt a little different (but
only a little) if GHWB had gotten the honor posthumously; I still think
he would fail on the importance scale.
I think there are several presidents who should have gotten the honor
before Carter and Bush, but I prefer names like Independence and
Enterprise and Freedom, which are great names that avoid all this
nonsense. JD's already mentioned some truly awesome British ship
names.
And I guess it's too much to hope for USS Taxpayer.
Brad Ferguson
<paralle...@ggmail.com> wrote:
At CBS you weren't allowed to do stuff like wear a political shirt at
someone's rally, no matter whose union you were in. This shirt was
about the ship, but from ten feet away you might not know that. Proud
Dad's union understood this. Maybe even Proud Dad did but, if so, he
didn't care.
Not that I would have gotten to make this kind of call, but I would
have let him wear the hat. Navy hats like that are standard (one of my
proudest possessions is the cap I got from the captain of the USS
Enterprise and, yes, I know how that sounds) and I would say that a
similar hat with GHWB's name on it would be fine. The shirt, however,
could have posed a problem, and Proud Dad should have understood that.
The techs are as much a bunch of news guys as the writers and producers
and so on, and they understand you're supposed to step aside and blend
in, and not become the story. You ditch the shirt and save the debate
for the office, when you get back.
Kris Baker
"Brad Ferguson" <thir...@frXOXed.net> wrote in message
I always understood that the Presidents who funded them, gained
the unspoken promise of having the ship named for them.
My husband spent time on the SS Agerholm (DD-826), which
was named for a Medal of Honor winner.
How about this for a ship? Ball Buster.
Kris
Kris Baker
"Brad Ferguson" <thir...@frXOXed.net> wrote in message
He was obviously "messaging". Otherwise, how would this little
"go home and change" story be picked up by Breitbart?
As a Federal employee, I could have a political bumpersticker but
I couldn't wear anything political. (As IF I'd have wanted to wear
a sweatshirt to the office!) I had to be vigilant, too, to make
sure that employees weren't putting up campaign materials in
their cubicles. (One did, right after the annual Hatch Act briefing.)
The hats, yes. They clearly explain themselves. But that sweatshirt
was a very different story.
piks11
>
>
> He was obviously "messaging". Otherwise, how would this little
> "go home and change" story be picked up by Breitbart?
>
> As a Federal employee, I could have a political bumpersticker but
> I couldn't wear anything political. (As IF I'd have wanted to wear
> a sweatshirt to the office!) I had to be vigilant, too, to make
> sure that employees weren't putting up campaign materials in
> their cubicles. (One did, right after the annual Hatch Act briefing.)
>
> The hats, yes. They clearly explain themselves. But that sweatshirt
>
> -
One morning back in the summer, a fellow rang my door bell. The first
thing I noticed about him was that he was wearing a tee shirt
proclaiming in large letters:
I May Not Be Mr. Right,
But I'll Fuck You Until He Gets Here.
He said he was trimming trees for the local electric company. Frankly
I thought the tee shirt was appalling, but thank God it didn't show an
aircraft carrier with George H. W. Bush's name on it.
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, Brad Ferguson <Brad Ferguson> wrote:
Yeah, I 100% agree with that.
> and I don't think ships should be named after presidents whose worth
> to history has yet to be determined.
We do name ships after relatively minor people and places all the
time, and some of these are actually pretty cool -- USS Decatur
springs to mind. (Some of them are appaling, like USS Josephus
Daniels.)
Capital ships (Nimitz and Ohio class) really ought to be in a
different category, I think as a general rule they shouldn't be named
after any individual.
> I think there are several presidents who should have gotten the
> honor before Carter and Bush, but I prefer names like Independence
> and Enterprise and Freedom, which are great names that avoid all
> this nonsense. JD's already mentioned some truly awesome British
> ship names.
Actually, that was Charlene. I can name one US Navy ship whose name
was at least as cool as any HMS Indefatigable or anything else: USS
Devastator.
Here's one I always loved, though it's not just the name. I served
for a few months in USS Sam Houston (SSN-609). Before I got to her,
she had served for a couple of decades as a ballistic missile
submarine, but her launch tubes were deactivated for arms control
treaty compliance. Here is the crew patch, showing the ship's emblem
and motto:
http://www.panix.com/~baldwin/samhouston.jpg
Somewhere at home, in a box somewhere in the basement, I have a belt
buckle with that on it.
piks11
> He wasn't "fired". He was taken off the job, after refusing to
> remove the sweatshirt.
>
Every source I've read including the LA Time claims he was "fired".
http://www.latimes.com/topic/ktla-bush-t-shirt,0,6207437.story
Which left wing fact factory you get your facts from?
> BUT....what if it had been the opposite?
>
> If a union worker at a Meg Whitman, Carly Fiorina or Christine
> O'Donnell rally had showed up wearing an Obama sweatshirt
> and cap....what would have happened?
>
>Kris
He wasn't attending an Obama rally nor is George H.W. Bush running for
office.
He was building a freaking platform for Obama, his Teleprompter, and
the select Obama faithful to use later during the rally. Good Grief.
Jim Macey
>> He wasn't "fired". He was taken off the job, after refusing to
>> remove the sweatshirt.
>>
> Every source I've read including the LA Time claims he was "fired".
>
> http://www.latimes.com/topic/ktla-bush-t-shirt,0,6207437.story
>
> Which left wing fact factory you get your facts from?
>
When I read the article on KTLA's website, the headline said "Fired",
but the article said he was taken off the job, after refusing to remove
the sweatshirt, and implied he could return after compliance with his
employer's policy. Didn't sound like 'fired' to me.
Jim...in New Mexico
piks11
I don't know what you read on LTLA's website, but ktla.com/news states
this:
"Hammond says he was told to take off the sweatshirt, or he would have
to go home. He refused. They told him he was fired from the job."
I will say that I believe the state of journalism is at a low point in
our country and a logically consistent story is sometimes hard to come
by.