RIP -- Martin Short's wife Nancy Dolman dead
Taylor
NTVNAT | First Posted: 08-23-10 06:05 PM | Updated: 08-23-10 06:13 PM
Read More: Martin Short, Martin Short Wife, Nancy Dolman,
Entertainment News
Radar Online is reporting that Nancy Dolman, Martin Short's wife of 30
years and mother of their three children, has died.
A representative for the actor confirmed her death, but provided no
further details.
She was born in Ontario Canada in 1952 and married fellow Canadian
Short in 1980 and the couple has daughter Kate Elizabeth and sons
Oliver Patrick and Henry.
Dolmer was a performer as well, retiring in 1985 to raise their
family.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/23/nancy-dolman-dead-martin-_n_691820.html#comments
Charlene
> Nancy Dolman Dead: Martin Short's Wife Dies
> NTVNAT | First Posted: 08-23-10 06:05 PM | Updated: 08-23-10 06:13 PM
>
> Read More: Martin Short, Martin Short Wife, Nancy Dolman,
> Entertainment News
>
> Radar Online is reporting that Nancy Dolman, Martin Short's wife of 30
> years and mother of their three children, has died.
I knew she had been diagnosed with cancer, but I had thought she was
recovering.
wd46
AndrewJ
Very sad news. Fellow SCTV alumnus Rick Moranis lost his wife
relatively young as well.
Kris Baker
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There's reporting that she died from cancer, but that doesn't
explain an emergency 911 call:
http://channel6newsonline.com/2010/08/comedian-martin-shorts-wife-dead/
Comedian Martin Short's wife dead
23 August 2010
LOS ANGELES (BNO NEWS) - The wife of comedian Martin
Short, Nancy Dolman, died on Monday of unknown causes,
Radar Online reported.
At approximately 8:30 a.m. local time, an emergency
call was made from the actor's residence in the Pacific
Palisades in Los Angeles.
The Los Angeles City Fire Department responded to
the medical emergency call and was on scene for
around 30 minutes after which they left without anyone.
It is believed that Nancy died at her home.
Dolman was born in 1952. She got married with Short
in 1980 and retired in 1985 to become a full-time
mother. She is survived by the couple's three children,
Katherine, 27, Oliver, 24 and Henry, 20.
The former actress had suffered from cancer in the past.
She was diagnosed in 2007 after doctors discovered
a growth in her left groin area. She underwent surgery.
Short is struck with tragedy while living a revival in his
career. Lately he starred in 'Damages' which has put
him under the spotlight. He has been nominated for
an Emmy in the Best Supporting actor for a Drama category.
(Copyright 2010 by BNO News B.V. All rights reserved. Info:
sa...@bnonews.com.)
JRogow
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> "AndrewJ" <ajmi...@cavtel.net> wrote in message
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> On Aug 23, 6:21 pm, Taylor <lukebenw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Nancy Dolman Dead: Martin Short's Wife Dies
>> NTVNAT | First Posted: 08-23-10 06:05 PM | Updated: 08-23-10 06:13 PM
>>
>> Read More: Martin Short, Martin Short Wife, Nancy Dolman,
>> Entertainment News
>>
>> Radar Online is reporting that Nancy Dolman, Martin Short's wife of 30
>> years and mother of their three children, has died.
>>
>> A representative for the actor confirmed her death, but provided no
>> further details.
>>
>> She was born in Ontario Canada in 1952 and married fellow Canadian
>> Short in 1980 and the couple has daughter Kate Elizabeth and sons
>> Oliver Patrick and Henry.
>>
>> Dolmer was a performer as well, retiring in 1985 to raise their
>> family.
>>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/23/nancy-dolman-dead-martin-_n_...
>
> Very sad news. Fellow SCTV alumnus Rick Moranis lost his wife
> relatively young as well.
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
> There's reporting that she died from cancer, but that doesn't
> explain an emergency 911 call:
He was out of the room, returned to find her comatose, called 911.
Karen M
> Kris Baker wrote:
>
>
> > There's reporting that she died from cancer, but that doesn't
> > explain an emergency 911 call:
>
> He was out of the room, returned to find her comatose, called 911.
And she died before the ambulance got there, else it wouldn't have
left empty.
Karen
SoCally
It's a shame. They had such a nice marriage from what it seems.
If she was under hospice care, she probably had advance directives
filled out not to resuscitate. I'm suprised they would call the
ambulance and not hospice though. Unless they called the ambulance
because Martin or one of the kids needed help once they found her
dead.
Charlene
Or she wasn't sick enough yet to need hospice care, and died
unexpectedly and suddenly. It's pretty common.
--
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Taylor
Coroner: Martin Short's Wife Died of Natural Causes
By Ken Lee
Tuesday August 24, 2010 01:30 PM EDT
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2010/news/100906/martin-short-2-320.jpg
Nancy Dolman and Martin Short in 2002
Billy Farrell/Sipa
Facebook Twitter E-mail Martin Short's wife died relatively young – at
only 58 – but her death was from natural causes, a coroner official
confirms.
"[Nancy Dolman] was under the care of a private physician for a
natural disease," L.A. County Coroner Chief Craig Harvey tells PEOPLE.
"There will be no coroner involvement."
Dolman had been battling cancer, according to a 2007 tabloid report,
but a publicist for the actor declined to comment on the cause of
death.
The actor's wife passed away Saturday after a 911 call was made from
Short's L.A. home.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20415285,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines
===
So natural causes it is.
Adam H. Kerman
>Coroner: Martin Short's Wife Died of Natural Causes
>By Ken Lee
>Tuesday August 24, 2010 01:30 PM EDT
>http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2010/news/100906/martin-short-2-320.jpg
>Nancy Dolman and Martin Short in 2002
>Billy Farrell/Sipa
>Facebook Twitter E-mail Martin Short's wife died relatively young at
>only 58 but her death was from natural causes, a coroner official
>confirms.
>"[Nancy Dolman] was under the care of a private physician for a
>natural disease," L.A. County Coroner Chief Craig Harvey tells PEOPLE.
>"There will be no coroner involvement."
>Dolman had been battling cancer, according to a 2007 tabloid report,
>but a publicist for the actor declined to comment on the cause of
>death.
>The actor's wife passed away Saturday after a 911 call was made from
>Short's L.A. home.
>http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20415285,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines
What's with the stupid headline? The coroner DID NOT make a ruling, just
repeated her doctor's own ruling.
Sigh. They shouldn't have called 911 either, which probably dispatched
paramedics to take her to a trauma center, the insane fuss we make over
people who die at home. Their doctor should have stopped by and issued
the death certificate, without moving the body.
windowwasher
news:i518m6$5ct$1...@news.albasani.net...
>
>>Coroner: Martin Short's Wife Died of Natural Causes
>>By Ken Lee
>
> repeated her doctor's own ruling.
>
> Sigh. They shouldn't have called 911 either, which probably dispatched
> paramedics to take her to a trauma center, the insane fuss we make over
> people who die at home. Their doctor should have stopped by and issued
> the death certificate, without moving the body.
In my county in downstate Illinois, when you report a death at home, they
roll the paramedics and the coroner. In some cases they also roll law
enforcement. They need to legally verify the person is actually dead. The
coroner inquires whether the person was under the care of a doctor and for
what illnesses ,and if answered in the affirmative, contacts the doctor who
can either agree to sign a death certificate with the cause of death or
leave it to the coroner for an investigation. The paramedics don't transport
the deceased to a trauma center here. The coroner either takes the body or,
if satisfied as to cause of death, releases the body at the scene to the
designated funeral home.
Snarktopus
> Sigh. They shouldn't have called 911 either, which probably dispatched
> paramedics to take her to a trauma center, the insane fuss we make over
> people who die at home. Their doctor should have stopped by and issued
> the death certificate, without moving the body.
There's a reason for coroners and big fusses over deaths, wherever they
occur, and that's that without all that fuss it would be fairly easy to
cover up some murders.
Adam H. Kerman
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>Coroner: Martin Short's Wife Died of Natural Causes
>>>By Ken Lee
>>What's with the stupid headline? The coroner DID NOT make a ruling, just
>>repeated her doctor's own ruling.
>>Sigh. They shouldn't have called 911 either, which probably dispatched
>>paramedics to take her to a trauma center, the insane fuss we make over
>>people who die at home. Their doctor should have stopped by and issued
>>the death certificate, without moving the body.
>In my county in downstate Illinois, when you report a death at home, they
>roll the paramedics and the coroner. In some cases they also roll law
>enforcement. They need to legally verify the person is actually dead.
Any doctor can certify death. A paramedic isn't authorized. The attending
physician should be the one to certify in these cases to avoid the
circus of emergency response at the home.
>The coroner inquires whether the person was under the care of a doctor
>and for what illnesses ,and if answered in the affirmative, contacts the
>doctor who can either agree to sign a death certificate with the cause
>of death or leave it to the coroner for an investigation.
That's reasonable.
>The paramedics don't transport the deceased to a trauma center here.
Somebody has to tell them to go away due to a dead body.
This is the part I object to. Medical care is so very expensive in this
country due to instances of paramedics attending a dead person, which
does take emergency response resources away from those who can still
be helped.
Why not just send the coroner, or send the attending physician if he
is available?
>The coroner either takes the body or, if satisfied as to cause of death,
>releases the body at the scene to the designated funeral home.
And then we have the scam that raises the cost of burial to astronomical
levels.
Brian
<a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>This is the part I object to. Medical care is so very expensive in this
>country due to instances of paramedics attending a dead person, which
>does take emergency response resources away from those who can still
>be helped.
>
>Why not just send the coroner, or send the attending physician if he
>is available?
What if someone has a heart attack and an untrained person finds them
comatose with very shallow respirations but is still alive although
appearing to be dead.
Brian
wrote:
>> It's a shame. They had such a nice marriage from what it seems.
>>
>> If she was under hospice care, she probably had advance directives
>> filled out not to resuscitate. I'm suprised they would call the
>> ambulance and not hospice though. Unless they called the ambulance
>> because Martin or one of the kids needed help once they found her
>> dead.
>
>Or she wasn't sick enough yet to need hospice care, and died
>unexpectedly and suddenly. It's pretty common.
Chemotherapy is very toxic and can cause damage to other organs so
while they might not be close to death from the cancer, they could
still have a heart attack for example.
Michael Black
> Sigh. They shouldn't have called 911 either, which probably dispatched
> paramedics to take her to a trauma center, the insane fuss we make over
> people who die at home. Their doctor should have stopped by and issued
> the death certificate, without moving the body.
>
Despite what we see on tv, death is rare. So when it comes, we are't
prepared, and may be in bad shape as a result of that death. People
may not have a clue on what to do in such a situation, and that's
compounded by not being able to think straight. 911 is an obvious
place to call, whether it's the proper one or not. From non-fiction tv,
we know that the operators do ask for details, so there should be a
filtering process, and the operators should have a better idea of what's
needed in such cases.
For that matter, most of us aren't prepared to know that someone is dead
and not in some other pre-death state. Yes, "check the pulse" but can
we be sure if we aren't trained to know we actually found no pulse
rather than not finding where to find the pulse? Or even no pulse,
there is some level of revivability, admittedly slim the longer it takes
for help to arrive. We are talking about someone's life, better to spend
the money to be sure.
Michael
windowwasher
news:i51iec$kr3$1...@news.albasani.net...
> windowwasher <window...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>In my county in downstate Illinois, when you report a death at home, they
>>roll the paramedics and the coroner. In some cases they also roll law
>>enforcement. They need to legally verify the person is actually dead.
>
> Any doctor can certify death. A paramedic isn't authorized. The attending
> physician should be the one to certify in these cases to avoid the
> circus of emergency response at the home.
Coroners are generally not doctors as it's a political office. The
paramedics are needed to inform the coroner life has ceased. No doctor is
going to leave his/her office, practice, home, or hospital to pronounce a
death at home.
>
>>The coroner inquires whether the person was under the care of a doctor
>>and for what illnesses ,and if answered in the affirmative, contacts the
>>doctor who can either agree to sign a death certificate with the cause
>>of death or leave it to the coroner for an investigation.
>
> That's reasonable.
>
>>The paramedics don't transport the deceased to a trauma center here.
>
> Somebody has to tell them to go away due to a dead body.
They leave the scene fairly quickly after the coroner arrives and determines
time of death. They sometimes just leave a single first responder with the
details to relate to the coroner if the coroner is delayed for some reason
and they are needed stat elsewhere.
>
> This is the part I object to. Medical care is so very expensive in this
> country due to instances of paramedics attending a dead person, which
> does take emergency response resources away from those who can still
> be helped.
>
> Why not just send the coroner, or send the attending physician if he
> is available?
The coroner is likely not a doctor. It's a political office that doesn't pay
very well in most counties.
Anim8rFSK
Uh - say what? Of course you call 911. You get paramedics, but if
they're obviously dead, they leave the body. The doctor can issue the
death certificate over the phone. The funeral home comes and takes the
body away. Been there, done that.
The article says she wasn't dead yet when they called 911 *anyway*
You call 911 because you aren't qualified to say somebody's dead. And
the doctor isn't going to take your word for it over the phone. And the
doctor probably can't come out 'til after office hours; the paramedics
can come NOW.
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Adam H. Kerman
>>>In my county in downstate Illinois, when you report a death at home, they
>>>roll the paramedics and the coroner. In some cases they also roll law
>>>enforcement. They need to legally verify the person is actually dead.
>>Any doctor can certify death. A paramedic isn't authorized. The attending
>>physician should be the one to certify in these cases to avoid the
>>circus of emergency response at the home.
>Coroners are generally not doctors as it's a political office.
I know.
>The paramedics are needed to inform the coroner life has ceased. No
>doctor is going to leave his/her office, practice, home, or hospital to
>pronounce a death at home.
I assume Martin Short can find a doctor for his wife who makes house calls.
Adam H. Kerman
>On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Sigh. They shouldn't have called 911 either, which probably dispatched
>>paramedics to take her to a trauma center, the insane fuss we make over
>>people who die at home. Their doctor should have stopped by and issued
>>the death certificate, without moving the body.
>Despite what we see on tv, death is rare.
Hm?
Not on my planet.
>For that matter, most of us aren't prepared to know that someone is dead
>and not in some other pre-death state. Yes, "check the pulse" but can
>we be sure if we aren't trained to know we actually found no pulse
>rather than not finding where to find the pulse?
There's the traditional hold a mirror up to the mouth and nose looking
for condensation from shallow breathing. Everyone knows that one. Yes,
sometimes it's hard to detect a shallow pulse.
>Or even no pulse, there is some level of revivability, admittedly slim
>the longer it takes for help to arrive. We are talking about someone's
>life, better to spend the money to be sure.
But we're not. Resources are finite. It does mean someone else isn't
getting helped.
We spend shitloads of money on end-of-life care, typically more money in
the last month of life than over a lifetime. We waste resources on goners,
maybe not extending life, or if life is extended, it's not for a reasonable
amount of time. And families with young children cannot afford treatment
for every family member, so maybe the dad ignores an infection to tough
it out and it becomes life-threatening...
This is a small symptom of the real problem with health care in this
country.
Adam H. Kerman
>>>http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20415285,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines
There are instances in which paramedics will insist on dragging
the body to the hospital for pronouncement of death. And you still get
flashing lights in your front yard, which no one ever turns off, even
though it's long past an emergency.
>The doctor can issue the death certificate over the phone.
I guess.
>The funeral home comes and takes the body away. Been there, done that.
Another scam.
>The article says she wasn't dead yet when they called 911 *anyway*
I didn't read the rest of it. That's different.
>You call 911 because you aren't qualified to say somebody's dead.
Um, if a body is in rigor mortis and cold to the touch...
R H Draney
That's the way chemo works...since cancer cells have the same genetic makeup as
the person they inhabit, the idea is to kill the patient a little at a time,
focusing as much as possible on those bits that you want to die first....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
Bob Benson
wrote:
>On Aug 23, 8:44=A0pm, Karen M <itskar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 23, 7:40=A0pm, JRogow <jro...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Kris Baker wrote:
>>
>> > > There's reporting that she died from cancer, but that doesn't
>> > > explain an emergency 911 call:
>>
>> > He was out of the room, returned to find her comatose, called 911.
>>
>> And she died before the ambulance got there, else it wouldn't have
>> left empty.
>>
>> Karen
>
>It's a shame. They had such a nice marriage from what it seems.
>
Well, you know, we all die sometime!
Aje RavenStar
No, I don't know that. Would you care to demonstrate?
*plonk*
Brian
> Chemotherapy is a horrible treatment, besides the side-effects.
> As you pointed out, it damages other organs and kills good cells, not
>just the cancerous ones.
> I'll never use chemo if I should ever get the disease.
If it meant dying vs. a decent chance to live, I would use it. I know
a number of people who are alive because of it. They aren't quite the
same though but then neither am I after a heart attack and pacemaker.
Wingnut
> We spend shitloads of money on end-of-life care, typically more money in
> the last month of life than over a lifetime. We waste resources on
> goners, maybe not extending life, or if life is extended, it's not for a
> reasonable amount of time.
And who do you propose make these decisions about who is worth saving,
hmm, if not the free market? Should cancer patients die in agony or be
euthanized when they might have months left or even a small but nonzero
chance of living for years, so the money can be spent elsewhere instead
of on painkillers for them? What about people that can be sustained for a
long time on expensive treatments -- diabetics (insulin), HIV+ persons
(cocktail of antivirals), and so forth. Should they all be put to death
by the state for their misfortune so that money can go elsewhere? And who
decides how much life extension is "enough to be worth spending money
for"? How much IS enough? An hour to say goodbye to loved ones? A day
with another sunrise and sunset in it, and maybe the series finale of a
hit show or some other important event? A week, a month, a year? How much?
Wingnut
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>>You call 911 because you aren't qualified to say somebody's dead.
>
> Um, if a body is in rigor mortis and cold to the touch...
All the more reason to call 911. If a body is that long dead and still
unreported, then it's more than likely it was foul play unless the person
went off into the wilderness or was frail and living alone, and the
body's circumstances support a death from natural causes. It should be
examined by forensics regardless -- I'd consider all unwitnessed (or at
least no witnesses that'll come forward) and unexpected deaths to be
suspicious circumstances deaths.
Adam H. Kerman
I don't know, Wingy. I figured not sending the paramedics to attend a
patient who died at home would be noncontroversial, but it seems not.
But anyone who advocates "unlimited money for all patients, no matter
how ineffective", is a total dingbat.
Wingnut
Not when it's possible for a layperson to think someone's dead who's a)
not dead and b) not irrecoverably *and* quickly headed there either.
As for the other responder types, as noted, without them any murder could
be covered up so long as it could be arranged to take the form of a quiet
at-home death, particularly a not-entirely-unexpected one. Hence why
arsenic was once so popular as a poison: it caused lingering illness
first, at a time when undiagnosed lingering eventually-fatal illnesses
were not at all uncommon (often cancers, rarely diagnosed even postmortem
since autopsies were not generally done on non-unexpected illness-related
deaths).
> But anyone who advocates "unlimited money for all patients, no matter
> how ineffective", is a total dingbat.
I don't think anybody's advocated that. That's a straw argument.
Adam H. Kerman
The fuck it is. People do it in every hospital every day of the year.
Sometimes relatives do it, even against the express wishes of the patient.
Of course what they really want is unlimited resources thrown at themselves
and their loved ones, not caring who else would die.
Wingnut
> Wingnut <wingnu...@hotmail.invalid> wrote:
>>On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:39:19 +0000, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>
>>>But anyone who advocates "unlimited money for all patients, no matter
>>>how ineffective", is a total dingbat.
>
>>I don't think anybody's advocated that. That's a straw argument.
>
> The fuck it is. People do it in every hospital every day of the year.
I meant I don't think any participant of this thread has advocated it in
this thread. :-P
Adam H. Kerman
>On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:39:45 +0000, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Wingnut <wingnu...@hotmail.invalid> wrote:
>>>On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:39:19 +0000, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>But anyone who advocates "unlimited money for all patients, no matter
>>>>how ineffective", is a total dingbat.
>>>I don't think anybody's advocated that. That's a straw argument.
>>The fuck it is. People do it in every hospital every day of the year.
>I meant I don't think any participant of this thread has advocated it in
>this thread. :-P
It's a political philosophy.
Louis Epstein
: windowwasher <window...@nowhere.com> wrote:
:>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
:
:>>>Coroner: Martin Short's Wife Died of Natural Causes
:>>>By Ken Lee
:
:>>What's with the stupid headline? The coroner DID NOT make a ruling, just
:>>repeated her doctor's own ruling.
:
:>>Sigh. They shouldn't have called 911 either, which probably dispatched
:>>paramedics to take her to a trauma center, the insane fuss we make over
:>>people who die at home. Their doctor should have stopped by and issued
:>>the death certificate, without moving the body.
:
:>In my county in downstate Illinois, when you report a death at home, they
:>roll the paramedics and the coroner. In some cases they also roll law
:>enforcement. They need to legally verify the person is actually dead.
:
: Any doctor can certify death. A paramedic isn't authorized. The attending
: physician should be the one to certify in these cases to avoid the
: circus of emergency response at the home.
A paramedic who was nominated to run for County Coroner here
years back said that he had experience in "field pronouncements"
(he wound up not being on the ballot because there's an exam you
need to have taken to be allowed to run for Coroner in NYS and he
had not taken it)...it may vary by jurisdiction,but paramedics
can "pronounce" death but not "certify" it?
:>The coroner inquires whether the person was under the care of a doctor
:>and for what illnesses ,and if answered in the affirmative, contacts the
:>doctor who can either agree to sign a death certificate with the cause
:>of death or leave it to the coroner for an investigation.
:
: That's reasonable.
:
:>The paramedics don't transport the deceased to a trauma center here.
:
: Somebody has to tell them to go away due to a dead body.
:
: This is the part I object to. Medical care is so very expensive in this
: country due to instances of paramedics attending a dead person, which
: does take emergency response resources away from those who can still
: be helped.
:
: Why not just send the coroner, or send the attending physician if he
: is available?
:
:>The coroner either takes the body or, if satisfied as to cause of death,
:>releases the body at the scene to the designated funeral home.
:
: And then we have the scam that raises the cost of burial to astronomical
: levels.
-=-=-
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at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Louis Epstein
: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote in message
:> windowwasher <window...@nowhere.com> wrote:
:>
:>>In my county in downstate Illinois, when you report a death at home, they
:>>roll the paramedics and the coroner. In some cases they also roll law
:>>enforcement. They need to legally verify the person is actually dead.
:>
:> Any doctor can certify death. A paramedic isn't authorized. The attending
:> physician should be the one to certify in these cases to avoid the
:> circus of emergency response at the home.
:
: Coroners are generally not doctors as it's a political office. The
: paramedics are needed to inform the coroner life has ceased. No doctor is
: going to leave his/her office, practice, home, or hospital to pronounce a
: death at home.
Our county's elected coroners are all doctors though it's not required
by law (just the exam alluded to in my other post).It's a part-time job,
if the county population grows much more we'll be required to have a
full-time medical examiner who must be a doctor.
Adam H. Kerman
>A paramedic who was nominated to run for County Coroner here
>years back said that he had experience in "field pronouncements"
>(he wound up not being on the ballot because there's an exam you
>need to have taken to be allowed to run for Coroner in NYS and he
>had not taken it)...it may vary by jurisdiction,but paramedics
>can "pronounce" death but not "certify" it?
I can understand that a doctor or coroner would sign the death certificate.
If a paramedic can pronounce death, then, can a registered nurse?
Adam H. Kerman
>Our county's elected coroners are all doctors though it's not required
>by law (just the exam alluded to in my other post).It's a part-time job,
>if the county population grows much more we'll be required to have a
>full-time medical examiner who must be a doctor.
I looked into this, once. "Medical examiner" isn't a professional term.
Sometimes it's used for the public office in lieu of coroner in counties
that abolished the office of coroner in order to eliminate inquests.
The subspecialty is actually forensic pathologist. I know of a coroner's
office in a neighboring county that hires hospital pathologists to perform
autopsies. Their specialty is disease but they don't have the additional
training in trauma that the subspecialty has, so they might miss some
murders.