??Michael Moriarty??
Loki
unconsciousness outside a club in Vancouver last night and taken to
the hospital.
Any word beyond that?
Loki
Joe Pucillo
Just this, from the local press:
From: "Damonald" <damo...@lynx.net>
Newsgroups: alt.tv.law-and-order
Wednesday, January 09, 2002
Global BC
Actor Michael Moriarty beaten outside Maple Ridge bar.
MAPLE RIDGE, B.C. - A Hollywood actor who now makes his home in
Vancouver has been badly beaten and hospitalized.
Both police and hospital officials are being tight-lipped, but a
number of sources confirm that Emmy award-winning actor Michael
Moriarty was badly beaten at about 2:45 a.m. Wednesday.
It happened outside the Wolfe Lounge at the Quality Inn Motel in
Maple Ridge.
Apparently, the 60-year-old had been drinking at the lounge with a
friend when police say three to five males attacked him.
The attack, which was unprovoked, left Moriarty on the ground
unconscious.
According to one source, he was bleeding from both ears, had an
injured eye, and a broken wrist, but there is no confirmation of
that.
Moriarty was transported to Ridge Meadows Hospital in Maple Ridge
where a source told BCTV News on Global Moriarty was in emergency
and could not be disturbed.
The actor most recently appeared in a Vancouver courtroom charged
with assault after allegedly slapping his common-law wife while they
were out at a Vancouver restaurant.
The charges against him were stayed on Jan. 31st.
Moriarty has been frank about his difficulties with drinking, but it
isn't known what role that may have played in the assault.
Police did arrest a suspect, but he was apparently released on an
appearance notice.
© Copyright 2002 Global BC
Uhhuh47300
Ron Harris
his life away.
Vicious"I think I could outrun both Edward Teller and Rosa Parks"Piranha
Loki
<ron...@stratuswave.net> wrote:
>My sources tell me that Michael is a big time alcoholic who is pissing
>his life away.
Such a shame. He had the potential to be one of the premier actors of
his generation. With DeNiro in "Bang The Drum Slowly" he made magic.
Loki
Uhhuh47300
>>his life away.
>
>Such a shame. He had the potential to be one of the premier actors of
>his generation. With DeNiro in "Bang The Drum Slowly" he made magic.
>
>
>Loki
>
>
Many observers who saw that movie back then thought that Moriarty, not DeNiro
would be the big star. Hard to say what happened. I've heard the drinking is
relatively recent, foloowing his departure from LAW AND ORDER.
Trace
Moscowman3
Loki
I could be wrong, but as I recall he had a sever mental breakdown
after "Holocaust".
Loki
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, Loki <Cubby...@aol.com> wrote:
> I could be wrong, but as I recall he had a sever mental breakdown
> after "Holocaust".
That role would have driven me to drink.
Moriarity was in possibly the worst action movie I've ever seen -- and
it's definitely the worst naval warfare flick ever. "Full Fathom
Five." It's not even in the so-bad-it's-worth-renting-to-laugh-at
category; it has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
He played a submarine commanding officer and the inappropriateness of
that casting was near the top of this movie's many, many flaws.
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Dorothy
> teaching dance(?) at Iowa. I won't comment on the drinking, but evidently
> his behavior was highly erratic. Anyway, just another unsubstantiated
> rumor to throw on the pile.
Moriarty has written in his own autobiography that he had a severe
breakdown in the 70s and was hospitalized, where he received drug
therapy and electroshock treatments. He was at that time married to
Francoise Martinet (the mother of his only child), a highly respected
ballerina and dance instructor whose name can still be found on the
resumes of rising young dancers. After their divorce, he was married
for nearly 20 years to a psychiatric social worker
who helped keep him steady and productive until his infamous meeting
with Janet Reno, which precipitated the severe mid-life break that has
him now in Canada, adrift from marriage #3 and battling alcoholism.
Dorothy
PirateJohn
swils...@aol.com (Dorothy) writes:
> After their divorce, he was married
>for nearly 20 years to a psychiatric social worker
>who helped keep him steady and productive until his infamous meeting
>with Janet Reno, which precipitated the severe mid-life break that has
>him now in Canada, adrift from marriage #3 and battling alcoholism.
OK, I'll bite. What is the story about this "infamous meeting??"
No politics, pleeze!! ;)
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Dorothy
> In article <deafb6d9.02011...@posting.google.com>,
> swils...@aol.com (Dorothy) writes:
>
> > After their divorce, he was married
> >for nearly 20 years to a psychiatric social worker
> >who helped keep him steady and productive until his infamous meeting
> >with Janet Reno, which precipitated the severe mid-life break that has
> >him now in Canada, adrift from marriage #3 and battling alcoholism.
>
> OK, I'll bite. What is the story about this "infamous meeting??"
>
> No politics, pleeze!! ;)
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
Sorry, the infamous meeting is old news that I thought everybody knew,
but here it is: in 1994, several television executives were invited to
a meeting with Attorney General Janet Reno. Moriarty was invited too.
She outlined her beliefs that television had become too violent and
that strong censorship was needed to get it off the air, even from
fluffy shows like "Murder She Wrote." When asked if that wasn't the
parents' responsibility to monitor their children's viewing habits,
she retorted "You can't trust parents." For some reason, this pushed
a hot button for Moriarty as nothing else had. He left the meeting
enraged and tried to rally support from Hollywood cronies like Clint
Eastwood and Charleton Heston, but nobody would bite. Moriarty just
couldn't get over it. When it appeared that nobody was going to take
the situation (or him) as seriously as he thought necessary, he
resigned from "Law & Order" in protest and moved to Toronto, where he
apparently felt that there was a better chance of maintaining
democracy than in his own country. His (second) wife wouldn't join
him and they divorved. Then he moved to Halifax and got married
again, then separated from that union and moved to Vancouver. There
you go!
Dorothy
PirateJohn
No, I missed that one. Must have been while I was locked up ;)
Seriously, thanks for the info. Ironically, several people in this newsgroup
have said that he was actually very liberal politically. Who knows ;)
Slithy Tove
wrote:
>>Sorry, the infamous meeting is old news that I thought everybody knew,
>
>No, I missed that one. Must have been while I was locked up ;)
>
>Seriously, thanks for the info. Ironically, several people in this newsgroup
>have said that he was actually very liberal politically. Who knows ;)
...how is that story incompatible with Moriarty being a liberal? Or
was that your point? I'd say it was Reno who wasn't a liberal in this
story.
== Tove
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Matthew Hubbard
>
> On 12 Jan 2002 22:30:58 GMT, pirat...@aol.comSPAMNOT (PirateJohn)
> wrote:
>
> >Seriously, thanks for the info. Ironically, several people in this
> >newsgroup have said that he was actually very liberal politically.
> >Who knows ;)
>
> ...how is that story incompatible with Moriarty being a liberal? Or
> was that your point? I'd say it was Reno who wasn't a liberal in this
> story.
Absolutely true. The Clinton-Gore axis is/was the moderate
wing of the Democratic Party, and where they are weakest in adherence to
classic liberal values is in civil liberties. From the Clipper Chip to
the V-Chip to Tipper Gore to school uniforms, The legacy of the last
eight years is not very good; just to be non-partisan about this, no
president since Carter has shown any serious respect for civil
liberties, and the new Bush administration is no exception.
MattH
Robert R. Feigel
<mhub...@csuhayward.edu> wrote:
>no president since Carter has shown any serious respect for civil
>liberties, and the new Bush administration is no exception.
>
>MattH
Nor is the Tony Blair government in the UK.
Control this, ban that, limit everything, tax the rest.
I guess that keeps the great unwashed from seeing how little he and
his government have delivered on their election promises .... and what
a disgrace the health system was/is and continues to be (my wife's
aunt being one of the casualties having been left in a hospital
corridor alone for 14-hours to die by herself!)
bob <spelled dismissively>
"Words cannot cook rice." - Charlie Chan
Tregembo
Matthew Hubbard <mhub...@csuhayward.edu> wrote in message
news:3C41172E...@csuhayward.edu...
Of course most of the regulars (Republicans) here don't believe there is a
moderate wing to the democratic party. So thank you for pointing it out.
And obviously by the tone of your post - "the Clinton-Gore axis," that's
very funny - you don't hold it in high regard. However, as the father who
took an active interest and participation in the lives of my three daughters
, I can tell you that kids don't have civil rights when it comes to leisure
activities such as TV programming they can watch and what CDs they can play.
While I have serious reservations about the clipper chip, the V chip and
posting lyric warnings on CD jewel boxes...as well as movie ratings are all
excellent and necessary steps to help protect our kids. And none of those
measures inhibits any adult's civil rights.
Ray Arthur
Matthew Kruk
With due respect, ratings and chips et al are fine but in the end it is the
parent. Which is what parenting is about; it's not about whelping some minature
people and letting others provide guiding lights.
Tregembo
Matthew Kruk <mk...@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
news:3C411FC4...@attcanada.ca...
In a perfect world Matthew, in a perfect world. I'm not sure what
"whelping" means but if it's beating children I agree; if it's eliminating
an occasional smack on the ass when necessary I disagree. Beyond that, do
you disapprove of these child rearing aids completely or just as a
replacement for responsible parents. And are you objecting just on a
parental obligation grounds or on the "slippery slope civil rights basis"
also? If just the former, what's you feelings on mandatory vaccinations,
seatbelts/car seats, protective gear for sports activities, etc?
Ray Arthur
Joe Pucillo
> Seriously, thanks for the info. Ironically, several people in this
> newsgroup have said that he was actually very liberal politically.
You may be confusing the man with the character. From my understanding,
Moriarity would need to look to his left to see Antonin Scalia,
politically.
From his time in Halifax, where his drinking was a local legend, he became
involved with an ultra-right faction based in Calgary, and my understanding
was that he moved there prior to moving to Vancouver.
JP
Matthew Kruk
> ...
> > With due respect, ratings and chips et al are fine but in the end it is
> the
> > parent. Which is what parenting is about; it's not about whelping some
> minature
> > people and letting others provide guiding lights.
>
> In a perfect world Matthew, in a perfect world. I'm not sure what
> "whelping" means but if it's beating children I agree; if it's eliminating
> an occasional smack on the ass when necessary I disagree. Beyond that, do
> you disapprove of these child rearing aids completely or just as a
The latter (replacement).
Tregembo
It appears we're in agreement.
Ray Arthur
Julz
>"whelping" means but if it's beating children I agree; if it's eliminating
>an occasional smack on the ass when necessary I disagree.
Main Entry: [2]whelp
Date: 13th century
transitive senses
: to give birth to — used of various carnivores and especially the dog
intransitive senses
: to bring forth young
(Source: Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary)
Be Well,
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Yes.
PirateJohn
Interesting thread, although, ironically, I meant to send my comments
backchannel to the lady that I was discussing this with. Musta clicked the
wrong button and accidentally sent it out to the whole group ;)
Oh well, never mind ... I just think it's interesting that alcoholism, bad
behavior, and a nervous breakdown would seem to be catalysts in moving MM
toward the right. Maybe that helps to explain Erik the Loon and a few other
reich wingers ...
Terrie
What is the Clipper chip?
Terrie
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Tregembo
Terrie <ter...@canada.com> wrote in message
news:eig08.181$jt2....@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Um Clueless Canadian here,
>
> What is the Clipper chip?
>
>
> Terrie
"Clipper Chip" is the phrase used for the concept of a device that can
monitor internet/email and cell phone transmissions, as well as other
electronic communications.
Ray Arthur
Tregembo
Terry del Fuego <KillAll...@SpammerFuneral.org> wrote in message
news:5ti34ucsto56he69g...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 22:09:09 -0800, "Tregembo" <tr...@krajfm.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Beyond that, do
> >you disapprove of these child rearing aids completely or just as a
> >replacement for responsible parents.
>
> I want one or not. I'm not stupid enough to breed and am getting
> extremely tired of having to pay for those who are.
Do you smile when you pay your school taxes?
Ray
Matthew Kruk
Canadian developed too.
Terrie
> monitor internet/email and cell phone transmissions, as well as other
> electronic communications.
>
> Ray Arthur
Canadian developed too.
Thanx, us Canadians develop all kinds of cool things :)
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King Daevid MacKenzie, UltimaJock!
> no
> president since Carter has shown any serious respect for civil
> liberties
...has ANY President, save perhaps Jefferson or Madison?...
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J.D. Baldwin
> monitor internet/email and cell phone transmissions, as well as other
> electronic communications.
You might be thinking of ECHELON. Clipper is the code name given to a
commercial product developed by the U.S. government for encryption of
voice data. It consists of hardware (the EES) and software (SKIPJACK)
that encrypts a stream of voice data on one end, then decrypts it on
the other. Every device has a unique, non-resettable, key.
The equivalent device for data encryption is called Capstone.
There are two catches to this technology that have, in the minds of
most security professionals, completely killed them:
1. All implementation details are classified, therefore the encryption
algorithm is not subject to public review, therefore cannot be
considered really secure.
2. The U.S. government keeps a copy of the keys to every such device
ever made. When they decide they'd like to start listening in on
you, they simply throw a switch, and your conversations are now in
the clear to them.
Because of these objections, the technology was accepted by almost no
one and can be considered effectively dead. There are much better
ways to encrypt one's data, though it would be nice to have a commonly
available, secure and robust means of encrypting telephone
conversations without the key escrow.
S. Just S.
>Such a shame. He had the potential to be one of the premier actors of
>his generation. With DeNiro in "Bang The Drum Slowly" he made magic.
>
A tragedy ; apparently a gifted jazz pianist also.....
Lets hope he finds a way out.....
Bill Schenley
> Vancouver has been badly beaten and hospitalized.
> Both police and hospital officials are being tight-lipped, but a
> number of sources confirm that Emmy award-winning actor Michael
> Moriarty was badly beaten at about 2:45 a.m. Wednesday.
Michael Moriarty is the grandson of George Moriarty. George Moriarty
played MLB for the Cubs, Yankees and Tigers. He also managed the
Tigers and was an American League umpire for twenty-years.
Otto Titsling
Cubby...@aol.com wrote:
> I heard that the former Law and Order star was beaten into a state of
> unconsciousness outside a club in Vancouver last night and taken to
> the hospital.
>
> Any word beyond that?
My father always hated him ever since the NBC mini-series Holocaust and
he played a Nazi officer. The guy is a good actor. My father is dead so
he is in the clear.
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