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Scott Brady
Dec 16, 2012, 12:48:22 PM12/16/12
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Frank Beardsley, dad of 20, dies at 97
Friday, December 14th, 2012
http://sonoma.towns.pressdemocrat.com/2012/12/news/frank-beardsley-inspiring-sonoma-valley-dad-of-20-dies-at-97/
Frank Beardsley, the resourceful and military-disciplined father of 20 whose blended family inspired a book and two Hollywood movies titled “Yours, Mine and Ours,” died Tuesday at a Santa Rosa hospital.
Beardsley, who co-raised his family in a great, orderly house in Carmel and retired to the Valley of the Moon in the mid-1980s, was 97.
His third wife, Dorothy Beardsley of Kenwood, was at his bedside when he died at Memorial Hospital. Though his name and story were known by millions, she said, the devoted golfer and Roman Catholic she married in Sonoma County 12 years ago “led a private life.”
Frank Beardsley’s life became anything but that when, as a 45-year-old widowed father of 10 children, he married Helen North, a widowed mother of 8, in September of 1961. They adopted each other’s children and gave birth to two more.
The first movie about their family, made in 1968 and starring Lucille Ball and Henry Fonda, suggested that the Beardsley kids and the North kids initially resisted the marriage.
Mere fiction, said Susie Pope of Napa, whose was 8 when her dad married Helen North.
“In real truth,” said Pope, who runs a Napa Valley bed-and-breakfast with her husband, Ken, “all of us kids were so excited about the union of our parents that we actually got them to bump up their wedding date by several months, because we couldn’t wait that long.”
The wedding produced a Catholic family with 18 children the youngest only a few months old and oldest 15 years. With the births of two new arrivals, there were 12 girls, 8 boys.
Pope, now 60, said proudly, “I was 9th from the top, 10th from the bottom. I like to say I was the most well-adjusted. I certainly didn’t get spoiled and I didn’t get overlooked.”
Home was the big house in Carmel that had been run by Frank Beardsley and his first wife, the former Frances Louise Albrecht. She died in 1960 from a coma brought on by undiagnosed diabetes.
Suddenly home nearly twice as many people, it had to be made bigger. Susie Pope remembers her dad and new mother setting out have it expanded to eight bedroom, five bathrooms and three living rooms.
Her father wanted to build a master bedroom at the highest point of the house, one with a huge walk-in bathroom and closet. His new wife resisted, saying that with all those children to raise, such a room would be extravagant.
Pope remembers her dad responded that it was because of all those children that the two of them would need a place of their own, a refuge. “None of us children were allowed to go into that room unless we were invited,” Pope said.
She remembers her father, a career Navy man, shopping at a base store and purchasing great quantities of on-sale kids’ shoes of three types: oxfords for Catholic school, patent-leather dress-ups for church and tennis shoes for weekend play.
“It didn’t matter which size” her dad bought, she said. “Someone would grow into them eventually.”
When a kid needed a new pair of shoes, Frank Beardsley would take him or her into the master bedroom closet, stacked high with discounted shoes. Daughter Pope recalled, “He’d look at your feet and say, ‘You look like a 7.’”
The appropriate box came off the stacks and another Beardsley kid was set for shoes, for a while.
In 1965, Helen North Beardsley wrote a book about her life, the death of her first husband, a Navy pilot, and the adventure of bringing up 20 children. “Who Gets the Drumstick” was published by Random House.
Lucille Ball, the actress best known for her TV show, ”I Love Lucy,” read the book and loved it. Her Desilu Studios bought the rights to it, and she took a trip to Carmel.
It was a thrill of all the Beardsley kids’ lives to meet and get to know the actress, who brought some writers into the house and set them to the task of writing a movie script.
“Yours, Mine and Ours” opened in Monterey. Pope remembered, “We had the premiere dinner at the Pebble Beach Lodge, where Lucy was staying.”
All 22 members of the Beardsley clan dined with star that night. “She would throw her head back and cackle in her classic Lucy style and we were all enthralled,” Pope said.
Ball also treated the entire family to a VIP, five-day trip to Disneyland. Pope said, “I think she saw the sacrifice that Mom and Dad were making and she wanted to supplement that somehow.”
Pope said her family did earn royalties from the book and the movie. The famous Beardsleys also made some bread, literally, from an advertising deal with the former Langendorf Bakery.
The company featured the clan in a TV commercial and put a family photo on the sides of some of its trucks. For a year, Langendorf provided the family with 50 loaves of bread a week.
“And we would eat it up,” Pope said.
She said growing up as one of the 20 Beardsley kids was a true gift.
“Against all odds,” she said, “these two astounding people fell in love, got married and raised this amazing family.”
Her father retired from the Navy in 1968, the same year the first movie came out. He and Helen opened a nut and gift shop, then a bakery that expanded to three locations.
In 1973, they sold the stores and Helen returned to her career, nursing. A bit more than a decade later, they retired to Oakmont. Helen died in 2000.
The second “Yours, Mine and Ours,” starring Dennis Quaid and Rene Russo, was released in 2005.
Late in 2000, Frank Beardsley married Dorothy Cushman of Kenwood, whom he’d met at Star of the Valley Church. She, like both of Beardsley’s previous wives, had been a nurse.
“He’s smart,” daughter Pope said. “They all took care of him.”
Dorothy Beardsley said that sometimes when she and Frank drove from home in Kenwood to a mass at their church in Oakmont, he say, “How many people can go to mass every day and see this valley, these beautiful surroundings?”
In addition to his wife and daughter Pope, Beardsley is survived by children Mike Beardsley, Charles (Rusty) Beardsley, Greg Beardsley, Rosemary Richter,
Louise Ingram, Colleen North, Mary Beardsley, Janet North, Nicholas North, Tom North, Ronnie Beardsley, Jean Murphy, Phillip North, Germaine Robison, Gerald North, Teresa Wyble, Joan Beardsley, Joseph Beardsley and Helen Vanucchi, about 60 grandchildren and about 24 great-grandchildren.
A memorial mass will be celebrated at noon Monday, Dec. 17, at Star of the Valley Catholic Church.
=====================================================================
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Friday, December 14th, 2012
http://sonoma.towns.pressdemocrat.com/2012/12/news/frank-beardsley-inspiring-sonoma-valley-dad-of-20-dies-at-97/
Frank Beardsley, the resourceful and military-disciplined father of 20 whose blended family inspired a book and two Hollywood movies titled “Yours, Mine and Ours,” died Tuesday at a Santa Rosa hospital.
Beardsley, who co-raised his family in a great, orderly house in Carmel and retired to the Valley of the Moon in the mid-1980s, was 97.
His third wife, Dorothy Beardsley of Kenwood, was at his bedside when he died at Memorial Hospital. Though his name and story were known by millions, she said, the devoted golfer and Roman Catholic she married in Sonoma County 12 years ago “led a private life.”
Frank Beardsley’s life became anything but that when, as a 45-year-old widowed father of 10 children, he married Helen North, a widowed mother of 8, in September of 1961. They adopted each other’s children and gave birth to two more.
The first movie about their family, made in 1968 and starring Lucille Ball and Henry Fonda, suggested that the Beardsley kids and the North kids initially resisted the marriage.
Mere fiction, said Susie Pope of Napa, whose was 8 when her dad married Helen North.
“In real truth,” said Pope, who runs a Napa Valley bed-and-breakfast with her husband, Ken, “all of us kids were so excited about the union of our parents that we actually got them to bump up their wedding date by several months, because we couldn’t wait that long.”
The wedding produced a Catholic family with 18 children the youngest only a few months old and oldest 15 years. With the births of two new arrivals, there were 12 girls, 8 boys.
Pope, now 60, said proudly, “I was 9th from the top, 10th from the bottom. I like to say I was the most well-adjusted. I certainly didn’t get spoiled and I didn’t get overlooked.”
Home was the big house in Carmel that had been run by Frank Beardsley and his first wife, the former Frances Louise Albrecht. She died in 1960 from a coma brought on by undiagnosed diabetes.
Suddenly home nearly twice as many people, it had to be made bigger. Susie Pope remembers her dad and new mother setting out have it expanded to eight bedroom, five bathrooms and three living rooms.
Her father wanted to build a master bedroom at the highest point of the house, one with a huge walk-in bathroom and closet. His new wife resisted, saying that with all those children to raise, such a room would be extravagant.
Pope remembers her dad responded that it was because of all those children that the two of them would need a place of their own, a refuge. “None of us children were allowed to go into that room unless we were invited,” Pope said.
She remembers her father, a career Navy man, shopping at a base store and purchasing great quantities of on-sale kids’ shoes of three types: oxfords for Catholic school, patent-leather dress-ups for church and tennis shoes for weekend play.
“It didn’t matter which size” her dad bought, she said. “Someone would grow into them eventually.”
When a kid needed a new pair of shoes, Frank Beardsley would take him or her into the master bedroom closet, stacked high with discounted shoes. Daughter Pope recalled, “He’d look at your feet and say, ‘You look like a 7.’”
The appropriate box came off the stacks and another Beardsley kid was set for shoes, for a while.
In 1965, Helen North Beardsley wrote a book about her life, the death of her first husband, a Navy pilot, and the adventure of bringing up 20 children. “Who Gets the Drumstick” was published by Random House.
Lucille Ball, the actress best known for her TV show, ”I Love Lucy,” read the book and loved it. Her Desilu Studios bought the rights to it, and she took a trip to Carmel.
It was a thrill of all the Beardsley kids’ lives to meet and get to know the actress, who brought some writers into the house and set them to the task of writing a movie script.
“Yours, Mine and Ours” opened in Monterey. Pope remembered, “We had the premiere dinner at the Pebble Beach Lodge, where Lucy was staying.”
All 22 members of the Beardsley clan dined with star that night. “She would throw her head back and cackle in her classic Lucy style and we were all enthralled,” Pope said.
Ball also treated the entire family to a VIP, five-day trip to Disneyland. Pope said, “I think she saw the sacrifice that Mom and Dad were making and she wanted to supplement that somehow.”
Pope said her family did earn royalties from the book and the movie. The famous Beardsleys also made some bread, literally, from an advertising deal with the former Langendorf Bakery.
The company featured the clan in a TV commercial and put a family photo on the sides of some of its trucks. For a year, Langendorf provided the family with 50 loaves of bread a week.
“And we would eat it up,” Pope said.
She said growing up as one of the 20 Beardsley kids was a true gift.
“Against all odds,” she said, “these two astounding people fell in love, got married and raised this amazing family.”
Her father retired from the Navy in 1968, the same year the first movie came out. He and Helen opened a nut and gift shop, then a bakery that expanded to three locations.
In 1973, they sold the stores and Helen returned to her career, nursing. A bit more than a decade later, they retired to Oakmont. Helen died in 2000.
The second “Yours, Mine and Ours,” starring Dennis Quaid and Rene Russo, was released in 2005.
Late in 2000, Frank Beardsley married Dorothy Cushman of Kenwood, whom he’d met at Star of the Valley Church. She, like both of Beardsley’s previous wives, had been a nurse.
“He’s smart,” daughter Pope said. “They all took care of him.”
Dorothy Beardsley said that sometimes when she and Frank drove from home in Kenwood to a mass at their church in Oakmont, he say, “How many people can go to mass every day and see this valley, these beautiful surroundings?”
In addition to his wife and daughter Pope, Beardsley is survived by children Mike Beardsley, Charles (Rusty) Beardsley, Greg Beardsley, Rosemary Richter,
Louise Ingram, Colleen North, Mary Beardsley, Janet North, Nicholas North, Tom North, Ronnie Beardsley, Jean Murphy, Phillip North, Germaine Robison, Gerald North, Teresa Wyble, Joan Beardsley, Joseph Beardsley and Helen Vanucchi, about 60 grandchildren and about 24 great-grandchildren.
A memorial mass will be celebrated at noon Monday, Dec. 17, at Star of the Valley Catholic Church.
=====================================================================
I’m now accepting entries for my 2013 dead pool, the Die2K Desert Classic.
What the hell, they’re gonna die anyway. Might as well cash in.
Complete rules and entry procedures:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/135WheJAGgPas_UUupkjkk3L5U_f0BClDP4tpMh077y4/edit
Rosters, scores and standings for the 2012 game can be viewed here:
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Brad Ferguson
Dec 16, 2012, 1:32:07 PM12/16/12
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In article <69cf71c4-bb7a-4539...@googlegroups.com>,
Another datum that fits with my observation that kids from extremely
large families tend not to have very many kids of their own.
Scott Brady <sbra...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In addition to his wife and daughter Pope, Beardsley is survived by
> ... about 60 grandchildren
> In addition to his wife and daughter Pope, Beardsley is survived by
Another datum that fits with my observation that kids from extremely
large families tend not to have very many kids of their own.
Kenny McCormack
Dec 16, 2012, 2:31:33 PM12/16/12
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In article <161220121332070312%thir...@frXOXed.net>,
Or not. (Although I do share your belief, basically)
But that's an average of 3 each - which is above the national average (which
is about 2.1, or something like that).
By my lights, 3 kids is at least 2 too many.
--
"The anti-regulation business ethos is based on the charmingly naive notion
that people will not do unspeakable things for money." - Dana Carpender
Quoted by Paul Ciszek (pciszek at panix dot com). But what I want to know
is why is this diet/low-carb food author doing making pithy political/economic
statements?
Nevertheless, the above quote is dead-on, because, the thing is - business
in one breath tells us they don't need to be regulated (which is to say:
that they can morally self-regulate), then in the next breath tells us that
corporations are amoral entities which have no obligations to anyone except
their officers and shareholders, then in the next breath they tell us they
don't need to be regulated (that they can morally self-regulate) ...
But that's an average of 3 each - which is above the national average (which
is about 2.1, or something like that).
By my lights, 3 kids is at least 2 too many.
--
"The anti-regulation business ethos is based on the charmingly naive notion
that people will not do unspeakable things for money." - Dana Carpender
Quoted by Paul Ciszek (pciszek at panix dot com). But what I want to know
is why is this diet/low-carb food author doing making pithy political/economic
statements?
Nevertheless, the above quote is dead-on, because, the thing is - business
in one breath tells us they don't need to be regulated (which is to say:
that they can morally self-regulate), then in the next breath tells us that
corporations are amoral entities which have no obligations to anyone except
their officers and shareholders, then in the next breath they tell us they
don't need to be regulated (that they can morally self-regulate) ...
R H Draney
Dec 16, 2012, 2:58:54 PM12/16/12
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Scott Brady filted:
>
>The first movie about their family, made in 1968 and starring Lucille Ball =
>and Henry Fonda, suggested that the Beardsley kids and the North kids initi=
>ally resisted the marriage.
A year or two ago, someone here asked for examples of actors who were outlived
by real people they portrayed (at that time I suggested Natasha Richardson as
Patty Hearst, and Trey Wilson as Sam Phillips)...here's two more....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
>
>The first movie about their family, made in 1968 and starring Lucille Ball =
>and Henry Fonda, suggested that the Beardsley kids and the North kids initi=
>ally resisted the marriage.
A year or two ago, someone here asked for examples of actors who were outlived
by real people they portrayed (at that time I suggested Natasha Richardson as
Patty Hearst, and Trey Wilson as Sam Phillips)...here's two more....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
Brad Ferguson
Dec 16, 2012, 4:19:02 PM12/16/12
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In article <kal7il$m10$2...@news.xmission.com>, Kenny McCormack
"not very many."
The eleven surviving Gilbreths came up with only 29 grandchildren among
them. I don't know what became of the Dukes and their 18 (or 20)
children, but one of the Dukes' daughters had only one child and said,
"That was it."
<gaz...@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
> In article <161220121332070312%thir...@frXOXed.net>,
> Brad Ferguson <Brad Ferguson> wrote:
> >In article <69cf71c4-bb7a-4539...@googlegroups.com>,
> >Scott Brady <sbra...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In addition to his wife and daughter Pope, Beardsley is survived by
> >> ... about 60 grandchildren
> >
> >Another datum that fits with my observation that kids from extremely
> >large families tend not to have very many kids of their own.
>
> Or not. (Although I do share your belief, basically)
>
> But that's an average of 3 each - which is above the national average (which
> is about 2.1, or something like that).
A three-child family is not especially large, and easily falls under
> In article <161220121332070312%thir...@frXOXed.net>,
> Brad Ferguson <Brad Ferguson> wrote:
> >In article <69cf71c4-bb7a-4539...@googlegroups.com>,
> >Scott Brady <sbra...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In addition to his wife and daughter Pope, Beardsley is survived by
> >> ... about 60 grandchildren
> >
> >Another datum that fits with my observation that kids from extremely
> >large families tend not to have very many kids of their own.
>
> Or not. (Although I do share your belief, basically)
>
> But that's an average of 3 each - which is above the national average (which
> is about 2.1, or something like that).
"not very many."
The eleven surviving Gilbreths came up with only 29 grandchildren among
them. I don't know what became of the Dukes and their 18 (or 20)
children, but one of the Dukes' daughters had only one child and said,
"That was it."
busgal
Dec 16, 2012, 4:43:02 PM12/16/12
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The eleven surviving Gilbreths came up with only 29 grandchildren among
them. I don't know what became of the Dukes and their 18 (or 20)
children, but one of the Dukes' daughters had only one child and said,
"That was it."
Only Martha had 3 children and sadly she died too young from Cancer.
them. I don't know what became of the Dukes and their 18 (or 20)
children, but one of the Dukes' daughters had only one child and said,
"That was it."
Brad Ferguson
Dec 16, 2012, 5:22:07 PM12/16/12
to
In article <c4660382-6bab-45c5...@googlegroups.com>,
There's an interesting piece here from the Chicago Reader about how
there were never actually twelve contemporaneous Gilbreth children,
Mary's death at age five (the article says six), and how the myth of
the Dozen was created, and why it's been so persistent:
<http://goo.gl/zW3js>
there were never actually twelve contemporaneous Gilbreth children,
Mary's death at age five (the article says six), and how the myth of
the Dozen was created, and why it's been so persistent:
<http://goo.gl/zW3js>
leno...@yahoo.com
Dec 16, 2012, 6:08:48 PM12/16/12
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>http://sonoma.towns.pressdemocrat.com/2012/12/news/frank-beardsley-inspiring-sonoma-valley-dad-of-20-dies-at-97/
> Frank Beardsley, the resourceful and military-disciplined father of 20 whose blended family inspired a book and two Hollywood movies titled “Yours, Mine and Ours,” died Tuesday at a Santa Rosa hospital.
One scene I remember well, since it's about a subject that was and is pretty unusual for any "family film" then or now (and maybe for R-rated movies as well, for all I know) was before(?) the marriage, when the father's oldest (IIRC) daughter is having a crying jag and refuses to talk to him about it. Her soon-to-be adoptive mother talks to her and coaxes out the reason - she's just had her first period.
> Frank Beardsley, the resourceful and military-disciplined father of 20 whose blended family inspired a book and two Hollywood movies titled “Yours, Mine and Ours,” died Tuesday at a Santa Rosa hospital.
The mother tells the father later.
Dad: "Is that ALL? Why didn't she tell me?"
Mom: "Because you would have said 'Is that all?' "
(I'm assuming that in the movie, the girl merely had very mixed feelings about it - unless she was woefully ignorant and scared out of her wits when it happened. After all, if it was based on a real incident, that may have been in the 1950s. While that scene may be considered dated today, I can imagine a girl's crying over it nowadays, if only because she doesn't want children and doesn't want to bother with birth control either.)
There's a somewhat similar scene in the 1940 Bette Davis movie "All This, and Heaven Too" - but I can't remember if the girl is Virginia Weidler or June Lockhart. In that, the tearful girl tells of the stern religious lecture she'd received now that she's a "woman," IIRC. (Wish I could find the script.)
Lenona.
Charlene
Dec 16, 2012, 7:55:33 PM12/16/12
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On Sunday, December 16, 2012 5:08:48 PM UTC-6, leno...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> (I'm assuming that in the movie, the girl merely had very mixed feelings about it - unless she was woefully ignorant and scared out of her wits when it happened. After all, if it was based on a real incident, that may have been in the 1950s. While that scene may be considered dated today, I can imagine a girl's crying over it nowadays, if only because she doesn't want children and doesn't want to bother with birth control either.)
>
Oh, no no no: most of them still cry over it. All the facts in the world don't prepare them for a) the pain and discomfort that nobody is *ever* prepared for, b) possible humiliation (if there's a stain, etc.), and c) the proof that Things are Different Now.
>
> (I'm assuming that in the movie, the girl merely had very mixed feelings about it - unless she was woefully ignorant and scared out of her wits when it happened. After all, if it was based on a real incident, that may have been in the 1950s. While that scene may be considered dated today, I can imagine a girl's crying over it nowadays, if only because she doesn't want children and doesn't want to bother with birth control either.)
>
wd48
rwalker
Dec 17, 2012, 1:17:29 AM12/17/12
to
all 11 were in the same place at the same time. In fact, the oldest
barely even knew the youngest 5. I don't think there were ever more
than 9 of them at any one place at the same time.
busgal
Dec 17, 2012, 1:23:17 AM12/17/12
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My dad was the third youngest of 8/9 and his oldest sister age 14 took care of him.
Kathi
Dec 17, 2012, 5:18:38 AM12/17/12
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:17:29 -0500, rwalker <rwa...@despammed.com>
wrote:
That was my father-in-law's family, too. He was #8 of 11 and the
oldest was 21 and married and out of the house by the time the
youngest one came along. Now, the "baby" is the last man standing and
will turn 90 years old in July 2013.
wrote:
oldest was 21 and married and out of the house by the time the
youngest one came along. Now, the "baby" is the last man standing and
will turn 90 years old in July 2013.
Brad Ferguson
Dec 17, 2012, 1:19:47 PM12/17/12
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In article <74etc81l6g1jb0tk7...@4ax.com>, rwalker
By "contemporaneous" I didn't mean that the Gilbreths were never all in
the same place at the same time. I meant that there were never a dozen
living children in the Gilbreth household, ever. Mary was the
second-oldest child and died before the last seven Gilbreths were born;
when Mary died, Frank and Lillian had only four living children.
As you can see from the Wikipedia list below, the Gilbreth children
have been dying off for more than a hundred years ... and now only
Fred, who just turned 96, is still alive.
From Wikipedia:
The children of Frank Bunker Gilbreth and Lillian Moller Gilbreth
were[39]:
Anne M. Gilbreth (September 9, 1905 February 16, 1987) (age 81);
married Robert E. Barney; three children (Peter, Frank, Robert).
Mary Elizabeth Gilbreth (December 13, 1906 January 31, 1912); died of
diphtheria at age 5.
Ernestine Gilbreth (April 4, 1908 November 4, 2006) (age 98); married
Charles E. Carey; two children (Charles E. Carey, Lillian Barley).[40]
Martha B. Gilbreth (November 5, 1909 November 15, 1968) (age 59);
married Richard E. Tallman; four children (Janet, Blair, Mary,
Stephanie).
Frank Bunker Gilbreth, Jr. (March 27, 1911 February 18, 2001) (age
89); married 1): Elizabeth Cauthen (19341954) 2): Mary Pringle
Manigault (19542001); three children (one from first marriage: Betsy;
two from second marriage: Rebecca, Dr. Edward Gilbreth).[41]
William Gilbreth (December 18, 1912 April 14, 1990) (age 77); married
Jean Irvin; two children (Lillian, Bill Gilbreth).
Lillian M. Gilbreth jr. (June 17, 1914 June 23, 2001) (age 87);
married Donald Dodge Johnson; two children (Julia, Dodge).
Frederick M. Gilbreth (December 8, 1916; still living); married Jessie
Blair Tallman; three children (Susan Kaseler, Frank Gilbreth, John
Gilbreth).[42][43]
Daniel Bunker Gilbreth (September 17, 1917 June 13, 2006) (age 88);
married Irene Jensen; three children (David Gilbreth, Danny Gilbreth,
Peggy).
John M. Gilbreth (May 29, 1919 December 25, 2002) (age 83); married
Dorothy Girvan; three children (Peter Gilbreth, James Gilbreth,
Deborah).
Robert Moller Gilbreth (July 4, 1920 July 24, 2007) (age 87); married
Barbara Filer; two children (Ann Gilbreth Wilson, Roy D. Gilbreth)[44]
Jane Moller Gilbreth (June 22, 1922 January 10, 2006) (age 83);
married George Paul Heppes; two children (Laurie, Paula).
---
The original article (as well as all those footnotes) can be found at:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillian_Moller_Gilbreth>
the same place at the same time. I meant that there were never a dozen
living children in the Gilbreth household, ever. Mary was the
second-oldest child and died before the last seven Gilbreths were born;
when Mary died, Frank and Lillian had only four living children.
As you can see from the Wikipedia list below, the Gilbreth children
have been dying off for more than a hundred years ... and now only
Fred, who just turned 96, is still alive.
From Wikipedia:
The children of Frank Bunker Gilbreth and Lillian Moller Gilbreth
were[39]:
Anne M. Gilbreth (September 9, 1905 February 16, 1987) (age 81);
married Robert E. Barney; three children (Peter, Frank, Robert).
Mary Elizabeth Gilbreth (December 13, 1906 January 31, 1912); died of
diphtheria at age 5.
Ernestine Gilbreth (April 4, 1908 November 4, 2006) (age 98); married
Charles E. Carey; two children (Charles E. Carey, Lillian Barley).[40]
Martha B. Gilbreth (November 5, 1909 November 15, 1968) (age 59);
married Richard E. Tallman; four children (Janet, Blair, Mary,
Stephanie).
Frank Bunker Gilbreth, Jr. (March 27, 1911 February 18, 2001) (age
89); married 1): Elizabeth Cauthen (19341954) 2): Mary Pringle
Manigault (19542001); three children (one from first marriage: Betsy;
two from second marriage: Rebecca, Dr. Edward Gilbreth).[41]
William Gilbreth (December 18, 1912 April 14, 1990) (age 77); married
Jean Irvin; two children (Lillian, Bill Gilbreth).
Lillian M. Gilbreth jr. (June 17, 1914 June 23, 2001) (age 87);
married Donald Dodge Johnson; two children (Julia, Dodge).
Frederick M. Gilbreth (December 8, 1916; still living); married Jessie
Blair Tallman; three children (Susan Kaseler, Frank Gilbreth, John
Gilbreth).[42][43]
Daniel Bunker Gilbreth (September 17, 1917 June 13, 2006) (age 88);
married Irene Jensen; three children (David Gilbreth, Danny Gilbreth,
Peggy).
John M. Gilbreth (May 29, 1919 December 25, 2002) (age 83); married
Dorothy Girvan; three children (Peter Gilbreth, James Gilbreth,
Deborah).
Robert Moller Gilbreth (July 4, 1920 July 24, 2007) (age 87); married
Barbara Filer; two children (Ann Gilbreth Wilson, Roy D. Gilbreth)[44]
Jane Moller Gilbreth (June 22, 1922 January 10, 2006) (age 83);
married George Paul Heppes; two children (Laurie, Paula).
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The original article (as well as all those footnotes) can be found at:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillian_Moller_Gilbreth>
yrag....@gmail.com
Dec 17, 2012, 3:58:28 PM12/17/12
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On Sunday, December 16, 2012 3:08:48 PM UTC-8, leno...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >http://sonoma.towns.pressdemocrat.com/2012/12/news/frank-beardsley-inspiring-sonoma-valley-dad-of-20-dies-at-97/
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> > Frank Beardsley, the resourceful and military-disciplined father of 20 whose blended family inspired a book and two Hollywood movies titled “Yours, Mine and Ours,” died Tuesday at a Santa Rosa hospital.
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> One scene I remember well, since it's about a subject that was and is pretty unusual for any "family film" then or now (and maybe for R-rated movies as well, for all I know) was before(?) the marriage, when the father's oldest (IIRC) daughter is having a crying jag and refuses to talk to him about it. Her soon-to-be adoptive mother talks to her and coaxes out the reason - she's just had her first period.
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You sure? I don't remember this.
> >http://sonoma.towns.pressdemocrat.com/2012/12/news/frank-beardsley-inspiring-sonoma-valley-dad-of-20-dies-at-97/
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> > Frank Beardsley, the resourceful and military-disciplined father of 20 whose blended family inspired a book and two Hollywood movies titled “Yours, Mine and Ours,” died Tuesday at a Santa Rosa hospital.
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> One scene I remember well, since it's about a subject that was and is pretty unusual for any "family film" then or now (and maybe for R-rated movies as well, for all I know) was before(?) the marriage, when the father's oldest (IIRC) daughter is having a crying jag and refuses to talk to him about it. Her soon-to-be adoptive mother talks to her and coaxes out the reason - she's just had her first period.
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scott
Lenona
Dec 17, 2012, 4:56:11 PM12/17/12
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On Dec 17, 3:58 pm, yrag.ne...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, December 16, 2012 3:08:48 PM UTC-8, leno...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >http://sonoma.towns.pressdemocrat.com/2012/12/news/frank-beardsley-in...
> On Sunday, December 16, 2012 3:08:48 PM UTC-8, leno...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> > > Frank Beardsley, the resourceful and military-disciplined father of 20 whose blended family inspired a book and two Hollywood movies titled “Yours, Mine and Ours,” died Tuesday at a Santa Rosa hospital.
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> > One scene I remember well, since it's about a subject that was and is pretty unusual for any "family film" then or now (and maybe for R-rated movies as well, for all I know) was before(?) the marriage, when the father's oldest (IIRC) daughter is having a crying jag and refuses to talk to him about it. Her soon-to-be adoptive mother talks to her and coaxes out the reason - she's just had her first period.
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> You sure? I don't remember this.
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> scott
Positive. I don't remember every detail, but the word "period" almost
> > > Frank Beardsley, the resourceful and military-disciplined father of 20 whose blended family inspired a book and two Hollywood movies titled “Yours, Mine and Ours,” died Tuesday at a Santa Rosa hospital.
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> > One scene I remember well, since it's about a subject that was and is pretty unusual for any "family film" then or now (and maybe for R-rated movies as well, for all I know) was before(?) the marriage, when the father's oldest (IIRC) daughter is having a crying jag and refuses to talk to him about it. Her soon-to-be adoptive mother talks to her and coaxes out the reason - she's just had her first period.
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> You sure? I don't remember this.
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> scott
certainly was NOT used, which is why the scene may well have gone over
some young viewers' heads.
They certainly didn't use it in "All This, and Heaven Too."
Lenona.
yrag....@gmail.com
Dec 18, 2012, 3:59:53 PM12/18/12
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The whole scene probably went over my head too.
scott
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