Teen Dies After Shot-Drinking Contest
Hoodude
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Rock County Teen Dies After Shot-Drinking Contest
Tue Jan 21, 2:05 PM ET
A Rock County teen is dead after attending a weekend birthday party.
Robert Severance, 19, passed out and later died
after attending a birthday party Friday night in Janesville, News 3
reported.
He had a blood-alcohol level of .37, police said.
Two teens began a shot-drinking contest, at times drinking straight
from the bottle, witnesses told police.
"They were in competition, and he was drinking very fast and went from
relaxation to coma to death in a short period of time," said Dr.
Adedapo Oduwole of Mercy Hospital.
"They probably don't realize what they're doing or how much is
dangerous," said Sgt. Rick Larson of JPD. "Depending on the
individual, alcohol can kill."
Doctors say each shot on average raises one's blood alcohol
concentration by .01. Severance's level was .37, meaning he had at
least 30 shots, which ended up shutting down his vital organs.
"If you drink really fast, you can go from relaxation to coma to death
-- just like he did. If you drink slowly, you will surely go from
relaxation to sedation to disinhibition," Oduwole said. "It touches
your brain, it burns it. It touches your liver, it burns it. It
touches your nerve-endings it burns it."
The doctor said that teens "have no business taking alcohol for any
reasons."
It may have been possible to save Severance had those at the party
reacted sooner, Oduwole said.
Even though there's nothing doctors could've done to physically remove
the alcohol from his bloodstream, he said they could have placed him
on a respirator to keep him stable until the effects wore off.
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If they give you ruled paper, write the other way.
- Juan Ramón Jiménez
Maggie
concentration by .01. >>
***Uh-huh. So I can have 7 shots and pass a DUI blood-alcohol test? I don't
think so.
Maggie
"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the
experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to
do so."--Douglas Adams.
Hoodude
> Anybody see a connection to the now-longest-ongoing war in American
>History:
> The War on Drugs, 1970- ?
It's not a war, just a means to justify spending money and decrease
person freedoms.
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, Hoodude <angl...@excite.com> wrote:
> The doctor said that teens "have no business taking alcohol for any
> reasons."
Oh, kiss my ass, doc. If our country had anything resembling rational
laws about alcohol and other stimulants/depressants/etc., this kid and
thousands of others might be alive today. You drive drinking
underground, you turn it into "forbidden fruit," this is the kind of
crap you get.
--
_+_ From the catapult of |If anyone disagrees with any statement I make, I
_|70|___:)=}- J.D. Baldwin |am quite prepared not only to retract it, but also
\ / bal...@panix.com|to deny under oath that I ever made it. -T. Lehrer
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Bob Flaminio
> From:
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?I6CB26D23
>
> Rock County Teen Dies After Shot-Drinking Contest
>
> Tue Jan 21, 2:05 PM ET
>
> A Rock County teen is dead after attending a weekend birthday party.
>
> Robert Severance, 19, passed out and later died
> after attending a birthday party Friday night in Janesville, News 3
> reported.
>
> He had a blood-alcohol level of .37, police said.
I guess he won, then. Darwin would've be so proud.
-Bob
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, R <r*@att.net> wrote, quoting me:
> > Oh, kiss my ass, doc. If our country had anything resembling
> > rational laws about alcohol and other stimulants/depressants/etc.,
> > this kid and thousands of others might be alive today. You drive
> > drinking underground, you turn it into "forbidden fruit," this is
> > the kind of crap you get.
>
> wine) in religious holiday celebrations. Passover, to name just
> one.
> And isn't there such a thing as sacramental wine the Catholic
> religion uses on a regular basis?
> [Obviously, not much injested but you get the idea the doc is
> wrong when he says "no business taking alcohol for any reasons."]
Those are perfectly good reasons, of course, but as far as I'm
concerned so is, "It's a holiday, and the kids can have half a glass
or so of wine because I'm their dad and I SAY SO, DAMMIT!" (Believe
it or not, this is even legal in some jurisdictions in the U.S.)
Consider two "kids" -- "A" was born at 1 a.m. on January 23, 1982 in
New Jersey; "B" was born at 11 p.m. on January 22, 1982 in California.
"A" is *older* than "B" (by an hour), but if "B" wants a drink today,
he'll be served. If "A" wants a drink today, it's a freaking federal
case. And this is what now passes for "law" in these United States.
Feh.
And this doesn't even get into the fact that these "kids" have been
voting for three years, have been required to register for the
military draft, can enter into contracts, etc., etc. Ridiculous.
Hoodude
> And isn't there such a thing as sacramental wine the Catholic religion
>uses on a regular basis?
Every time I attended catholic mass, the priest drank the wine after
merely dipping each of the 'crackers' (aka 'hosts') in it just before
delivering it to the 'celebrants' (who might be lucky to get a
minuscule taste of wine). Another inequity in the catholic religion.
吵o吩oo
> On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:17:55 GMT, "R" <r*@att.net> wrote:
>
>> And isn't there such a thing as sacramental wine the Catholic
>> religion uses on a regular basis?
>
> Every time I attended catholic mass, the priest drank the wine
after
> merely dipping each of the 'crackers' (aka 'hosts') in it just
before
> delivering it to the 'celebrants' (who might be lucky to get a
> minuscule taste of wine). Another inequity in the catholic
religion.
Generally, the wine has been offered to communicants by a server
standing near the person/priest offering the host (cracker to
non-Catholics) for many years now. It is optional if people want to
"drink the blood" as well as "receive the body". I usually did, but
many people passed by. I've seen most children (who eagerly reach
for the wine) take a hearty portion. Most adults take only the
smallest sip (which is expected). It *is* top quality wine. The
priest drinks a good portion in the course of performing Mass, but
some don't pour much into the chalice, others pour the whole pitcher
in. In the course of an entire career, saying Mass every day and
often more than one on Sunday, priests tend to consume a lot of
alcohol. If they don't like it, then it goes with the territory. If
they *do* like it, well, you figure it out....
--
吵o吩oo
WarpTwelve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"What's so funny about peace, love, and understanding?"
吵o吩oo
"WarpTwelve" <warpt...@aol.comSPAMOFFF> wrote in message
news:20030123180308...@mb-fc.aol.com...
> Alas, being a Methodist, we always got Welch's grape juice ;)
Maybe *that's* why you are now an agnostic....;)
--
吵o吩oo
The Kentucky Wizard
consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members of my
Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders, I have come
to the following conclusions:
> Alas, being a Methodist, we always got Welch's grape juice ;)
>
>
Being a old-time Baptist, we has the grape juice as well. Usually one had to
go out of the church, up past the woods and into a clearing past the trip
wires, to get some of that "good stuff".
--
The Wiz ....
The Kentucky Wizard
consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members of my
Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders, I have come
to the following conclusions:
An agnostic?? John's an agnostic??
As Archie Bunker said to Edith when they first found out the soon to be
son-in-law Michael was an agnostic, and she asked if that meant he was
Jewish or something; "It's worse than that Edith, I think it means he can't
have any kids!"
--
The Wiz ....
Carl Navarro
Sorry, we got good old Mogen David (what an oxymoron).
Ya know, with all the "education" subjects they have in school today,
couldn't someone teach about alcohol poisoning?
Gives new meaning to the phrase Dead Drunk.
As if Keith Whitley wasn't a sad enough story.
Carl "make that Polo" Navarro
The Kentucky Wizard
consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members of my
Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders, I have come
to the following conclusions:
> On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 05:03:04 GMT, "The Kentucky Wizard"
> <kentuckywizardNOCR...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Upon receiving news that WarpTwelve had made the remarks below, and
>> after consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by
>> members of my Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world
>> leaders, I have come to the following conclusions:
>>
>>
>>> Alas, being a Methodist, we always got Welch's grape juice ;)
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Being a old-time Baptist, we has the grape juice as well. Usually
>> one had to go out of the church, up past the woods and into a
>> clearing past the trip wires, to get some of that "good stuff".
>
> Sorry, we got good old Mogen David (what an oxymoron).
>
> Ya know, with all the "education" subjects they have in school today,
> couldn't someone teach about alcohol poisoning?
>
> Gives new meaning to the phrase Dead Drunk.
>
> As if Keith Whitley wasn't a sad enough story.
>
> Carl "make that Polo" Navarro
I agree. For some reason, you never hear of anyone dying from alcohol
toxicity, even though it's a pretty common occurrence. Keith Whitley was the
first, and last come to think of it, "famous" person who died from alcohol
toxicity where it received the most coverage regarding the topic.
--
The Wiz ....
吵o吩oo
<ROTFL> I remember that line so well. As for John, who really knows
what secrets lurk in the hearts of men....? He's a mischievous
rascal. I'm sure God loves those kind, too. ;)
--
吵o吩oo <who hopes somebody starts a flame war soon>
The best answer for me to deal with this cancer was to laugh. Humor
is a great cure all from this disease. -a Follicular Lymphoma
survivor
Kathi
wrote:
>On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 05:03:04 GMT, "The Kentucky Wizard"
><kentuckywizardNOCR...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> WarpTwelve had made the remarks below:
>>
>>> Alas, being a Methodist, we always got Welch's grape juice ;)
>>>
>>Being a old-time Baptist, we has the grape juice as well. Usually one had to
>>go out of the church, up past the woods and into a clearing past the trip
>>wires, to get some of that "good stuff".
>
>Sorry, we got good old Mogen David (what an oxymoron).
Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod = the best Manischewitz has to offer.
The Kentucky Wizard
consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members of my
Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders, I have come
to the following conclusions:
<snip>吵o吩oo <who hopes somebody starts a flame war soon><snip>
So you actually *want* someone on here to start a flame war? I've tried to
be a good boy lately, and it appears no one wants to fight with me
anymore.*sad* Even now when I throw out some "flame bait", I can't get
anyone to bite, although I did have a couple of nibbles here and there.
Maybe it's the cold weather and cabin fever that has everybody down. If
there's nothing started by the weekend, I'll call somebody a name or
something, just to get the ball rolling.
--
The Wiz ....
吵o吩oo
"The Kentucky Wizard"
> <snip>§no§hoo <who hopes somebody starts a flame war soon><snip>
>
> So you actually *want* someone on here to start a flame war?
1) Only if it contains funny remarks.
2) And it doesn't involve moi.
I've tried to
> be a good boy lately, and it appears no one wants to fight with me
> anymore.*sad*
You scare people off when you tell them "you won't win with me". <g>
Even now when I throw out some "flame bait", I can't get
> anyone to bite, although I did have a couple of nibbles here and
there.
Heh...I noticed that.
> Maybe it's the cold weather and cabin fever that has everybody
down.
From my experience on the rv ng, "cabin fever" set everybody off till
there was a forest fire of flames. Once the weather improved and the
traveling began, everybody mellowed out.
I do know that weather has an influence on people's attitude, tho.
Who isn't ready for Spring already?
If
> there's nothing started by the weekend, I'll call somebody a name
or
> something, just to get the ball rolling.
Ha..I 'preciate your help, son.
If things don't get riotously funny around here soon, I might be
forced to join PirateJohn's Humah List. I'm desperate, I tell ya...
:')
--
§no§hoo
The best answer for me to deal with this cancer was to laugh. Humor
is a great cure all from this disease. --a Follicular Lymphoma
survivor
Wendy Chatley Green
:On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 00:16:57 -0500, Carl Navarro <cnav...@wcnet.org>
i haven't seen Manischewitz products in an LCMS church. In
Missouri, we had some very fine port. Here in Kentucky, it's mediocre
rosé. The church we attended in Georgia served Taylor port.
--
Wendy Chatley Green
wcg...@cris.com
Brian
<kentuckywizardNOCR...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Being a old-time Baptist, we has the grape juice as well. Usually one had to
>go out of the church, up past the woods and into a clearing past the trip
>wires, to get some of that "good stuff".
I once asked a friend of ours, who happens to be a Methodist minister,
about how they reconcile the Biblical passages about the Last Supper
with using grape juice. He didn't really have an answer.
吵o吩oo
"David Carson" <da...@neosoft.com> wrote in message radition.
>
> Nevertheless, it is my understanding that the Passover "wine" used
in
> Jesus' day was very diluted -- 3 parts water to 1 part wine, IIRC.
So, if
> you really want to get technical about it, the people who drink
grape
> juice are probably being more authentic, for whatever that's worth.
At the risk of being called a "dumbass" by somebody, isn't grape
juice just young wine?
We use wine in my church, but I don't see what would be so out of
place about grape juice? Wine is dangerous for anyone who is an
alcoholic. How can an alcoholic priest possibly not have serious
trouble when consuming alcohol is part of his daily and lifelong job?
Maybe that contributed significantly to his being an alcoholic in the
first place. And communion wine has to be consumed on an empty
stomach...or after fasting for a specific amount of time, so he can
hardly avoid feeling the effects of the alcohol.
--
吵o吩oo < who is sipping a small glass of imported wine from Italy at
this very moment...and already has a headache! >
The Kentucky Wizard
consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members of my
Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders, I have come
to the following conclusions:
Well, I'll give you my answer, for what it's worth. The bible describes wine
as a "fruit of the vine", and that there were various degrees of strength
due to the various forms of fermentation at that time of Christ. There are
several instances in the bible where there was wine served, that did not
lead to drunkenness, which was blessed by God, as well as times where wine
that was fermented lead to drunkenness and ultimately things were done
contrary to God's laws. So, for Christ to use that which was condemned in so
much that it caused drunkenness, would be contradictive of his teachings. I
feel safe in saying that the wine that was used at the last supper was not
fermented, and therefore for anyone who uses grape juice at their communion,
would probably be more consistent to what was used at the last supper.
Quick Joke Time:
Q: Why were all the Apostles sitting on just one side of the table at the
Last Supper?
A: It's so they could *all* get in the picture, you silly.
Tidbit:
If you look at the famous "Last Supper" painting, Judas, the betrayer of
Christ, is easy to pick out from all the others. He is on the left hand side
as you look at the painting, close to the middle, with his hand holding onto
the bag of money on the table top that he was given for betraying Christ.
--
The Wiz ....