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Donald Kellogg , raised initially with chimp "sister", suicide at 43 (in 1973)

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Jan 14, 2024, 9:42:56 PMJan 14
Surprised I had never heard of this disturbing case study.

The sad saga makes you wonder why that Connecticut lady who was raising chimp Travis kinda sorta like a human--before responding authorities shot Travis to death in February 2009 after the beast went ape mauling, blinding and disfiguring her visiting lady friend--didn't realize how tragically her own experiment might end up. (I presume she--or anyone else setting out on such a fool's errand--was familiar with the parents'/researchers' 1933 book "The Ape and the Child").

It would be interesting to learn the details behind Kellogg's suicide at age 43; it's entirely possible, of course, that he was tormented by matters completely unrelated to what so weirdly happened in his early childhood four decades prior.

Meanwhile, the pretend-journalist who sloppily wrote this piece never bothered to tell the reader whether this was somewhere stateside, or over in the U.K. [my hunch, given it's from the British Daily Star], or somewhere else on the planet.


Big Mongo

Jan 15, 2024, 12:39:58 AMJan 15
On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 9:42:56 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> Surprised I had never heard of this disturbing case study.

I used to have a group of undergrad students who I worked with and of course them being undergrads
money was always tight so I bought them all lunch occasionally. I enjoyed the camaraderie and the
fellowship and the chance to interact with young minds. One day the discussion turned to what was the
cheapest source of subsistence a human being could conceivably live on while still maintain a reasonable level
of health. Most ventured white rice, ramen noddles or mac and cheese, but one of the more forward thinking students
ventured forth with the phrase: "Purina Monkey Chow" and he informed us that he could live on monkey chow
quite happily as it contained all the vitamins and minerals a growing primate needs without any of the
preprocessed crap. Wagers were placed and after about 2 weeks the student was admitted to the hospital
for several days for being monstrously constipated.

A 25lb bag of monkey chow was approximately $13 in 1996 and the average college student needed to eat
about 4 or 5 pounds daily to maintain their current level of health so in the end it wasn't all that cost effective
as it worked out to about $3.25 per day...

Louis Epstein

Feb 19, 2024, 2:41:29 PMFeb 19
(Can not quote Mr. Mongo because of charset issue)

As regards the white rice proposal as cheapest foodstuff,
I expect that brown rice (more nutritious as well) would
have a lower cost of production thanks to the omission
of processing steps (as with whole wheat flour or raw cane
sugar) but has a higher retail price because of market
conditions that would not exist in a bare-subsistence-level

As regards Mr. Kellogg,I note that I've been eating some
supermarket-house-brand corn flakes from a lower-priced,
larger-capacity package than one of his namesake corn flakes.

Were these students concerned with contemporary market
conditions or theoretical survival necessities?

The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
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