Duke of Marlborough's Sister Dead at 78
Louis Epstein
died October 13th 2000...though she married first Edwin Russell,
by whom she had four daughters,then Neil Burgos(for less than a
year,I believe),and finally Theodorus Roubanis,the paid death notice
in the New York Times,which says she died "suddenly" at her home
in Connecticut,calls her Lady Sarah Spencer-Churchill,her maiden name.
Her middle name was Consuelo,after her Vanderbilt ancestress.
The Times inexpertly lists her as "L." Spencer-Churchill.
Greg King
I can add that she was an exceptional woman, full of good humor,
intellect and keen insight. I last spoke with her on Wednesday, and
she was busy working on the book. She had an astonishing life, going
from Duke's daughter to WWII factory worker, acting as liaison to her
cousin Winston Churchill before marrying Ed and moving to America,
where she became a US citizen. She was amongst the last of the
debutantes to be presented in 1939 and her ball at Blenheim that
summer was the last of the great private parties held before the
outbreak of the War. She was great friends with so many people--Chips
Channon, Laura Corrigan, Eisenhower, the Mitfords, Lady Diana Cooper,
Jack and Jackie Kennedy, Ari Onassis, and many others--and had an
intimate knowledge of the privates lives, personalities and scandals
of the last seventy years of British and European royals. She was
especially close, as was her daughter Serena, to Diana, Princess of
Wales, whom she admired greatly. Above all, she adored her
grandmother Consuelo.
I hope that I can finish what we had almost completed, with the help
of the Duke and her family, and leave her memoirs for posterity, as
they are a remarkable set of collected thoughts and memories of a way
of life long since vanished. I am happy to have called her a dear
friend, and her death is, I know, a shock to all of us who knew and
loved her.
Greg King
Editor
Atlantis Magazine: In the Courts of Memory
http://www.atlantis-magazine.com
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Before you buy.
Louis Epstein
: In article <tZlG5.381$B81....@iad-read.news.verio.net>,
All I know is the 1999 Burke's shows Lady Caroline as dead,
without providing a date of death.
Brian Watson
"Greg King" <mad...@seanet.com> wrote in message
news:39EA1E...@seanet.com...
> She was great friends with so many people--Chips
> Channon, Laura Corrigan, Eisenhower, the Mitfords, Lady Diana Cooper,
> Jack and Jackie Kennedy, Ari Onassis, and many others--and had an
> intimate knowledge of the privates lives, personalities and scandals
> of the last seventy years of British and European royals. She was
> especially close, as was her daughter Serena, to Diana, Princess of
> Wales, whom she admired greatly. Above all, she adored her
> grandmother Consuelo.
>
> I hope that I can finish what we had almost completed, with the help
> of the Duke and her family, and leave her memoirs for posterity, as
> they are a remarkable set of collected thoughts and memories of a way
> of life long since vanished.
Sounds like it could be one Helluva book.
My one reservation is that she might have been too nice to be completely
candid in print.
--
Brian
Greg King
was this book, so I think I can safely say that she is very candid.
She was completely honest and open about many othings, perhaps
precisely because she didn't care about burning any bridges. I've
still got about twenty hours of tape recorded conversations with her
still to incorporate and, sadly, just on Friday, got another 100 pages
of additions from Sarah herself for her book. What happens will
largely be the decision of the Duke and her daughters, but I hope that
the book will be finished and become what she had wished as a tribute
to her memory.
elm...@my-deja.com
Can you tell us what her daughters are doing? Are they Americans or
British?
Greg King
her time, though chiefly lives in the US. The eldest, Consuelo (Mimi)
is the only one born in UK; the rest were born in the US. All live
ordinary lives and are private.
elm...@my-deja.com
Jacqueline.
Is this order wrong?
Louis Epstein
: In article <39EAB9...@seanet.com>,
: Greg King <mad...@seanet.com> wrote:
: > Two of the daughters live in the US, one in the UK, and one divides
: > her time, though chiefly lives in the US. The eldest, Consuelo (Mimi)
: > is the only one born in UK; the rest were born in the US. All live
: > ordinary lives and are private.
: >
: > Greg King
:
: I thought Serena was the oldest, then Consuelo, then Alexandra, the
: Jacqueline.
:
: Is this order wrong?
It's what's in Burke's.
Serena(Balfour),born 1944,is the one in London.
Jacqueline was born well after the other three.
Greg King
> I thought Serena was the oldest, then Consuelo, then Alexandra, the
> Jacqueline.
>
> Is this order wrong?
Yeah, sorry--my goof--what I get for trying to write at four in the
morning. I meant Serena, who was born during the War in the UK, but
my mind was clicking on all cylinders. I apologize.
Andrew Loughrey
Greg King <mad...@seanet.com> wrote:
> Two of the daughters live in the US, one in the UK, and one divides
> her time, though chiefly lives in the US. The eldest, Consuelo
(Mimi)
> is the only one born in UK; the rest were born in the US. All live
> ordinary lives and are private.
>
> Greg King
Serena (aka Mrs Neil) Balfour is a socialite appearing quite often in
Tatler, Harpers & Queen & occasionally Point de Vue - hardly that
ordinary or private! Though I suppose those terms are relative! I'm
sure you are correct though about the other sisters - their mother
seemed unwilling to share even the most basic details with Debretts' of
their marriages & children, particularly for the yr 2 daughters VERY
sparse. Is there more in the 1999 Burke's?
Andrew Loughrey
Shinjinee Sen
Andrew Loughrey <ap...@my-deja.com> wrote:
[snip]
>
> Serena (aka Mrs Neil) Balfour is a socialite appearing quite often in
> Tatler, Harpers & Queen & occasionally Point de Vue - hardly that
> ordinary or private! Though I suppose those terms are relative! I'm
> sure you are correct though about the other sisters - their mother
> seemed unwilling to share even the most basic details with Debretts'
of
> their marriages & children, particularly for the yr 2 daughters VERY
> sparse. Is there more in the 1999 Burke's?
>
> Andrew Loughrey
How is Neil Balfour related to the third husband of Princess Elizabeth
of Yugoslavia, or for that matter to Roderick Balfour (husband of Lady
Tessa Fitzalan-Howard, and apparently heir presumptive to the Earl
Balfour. Roderick and Lady Tessa have no sons]?
--
Shinjinee
Andrew Loughrey
Shinjinee Sen <ssen_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <8shcf5$bl7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>
> How is Neil Balfour related to the third husband of Princess Elizabeth
> of Yugoslavia,
I presume you mean 2nd?
Neil Balfour m. 1st (as her 2nd husband)Princess Elizabeth
m. 2nd. (as her 2nd husnand) Serena Russell
Serena, Pss Elizabeth & Lady Sarah S-C were all pictured in PdV earlier
this year at the wedding of Elisabeth & Neil's only child Nicholas.
or for that matter to Roderick Balfour (husband of Lady
> Tessa Fitzalan-Howard, and apparently heir presumptive to the Earl
> Balfour. Roderick and Lady Tessa have no sons]?
Neil is not of the Earl's Balfour branch. His family is in the Landed
gentry there may be a link but it is probably distant. Is Roderick now
heir presumptive? is his father dead? Roderick & Lady Teresa have 4
daughters only. His yr (only) brother Charles is married to Countess
Svea von Goess (Habsburg descendant), they have 1 son.
Andrew
Mike Dickson
> Serena (aka Mrs Neil) Balfour is a socialite appearing quite often in
> Tatler, Harpers & Queen & occasionally Point de Vue
What exactly is a 'socialite', other than another description for
'someone who does nothing useful'?
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh, Scotland
Dummy address used - to e-mail, replace 'news' with my first name
Louis Epstein
: In article <tZlG5.381$B81....@iad-read.news.verio.net>,
: l...@put.com (Louis Epstein) wrote:
: > The Duke of Marlborough's eldest sister,born December 17th 1921,
: > died October 13th 2000...though she married first Edwin Russell,
: > by whom she had four daughters,then Neil Burgos(for less than a
: > year,I believe),and finally Theodorus Roubanis,the paid death notice
: > in the New York Times,which says she died "suddenly" at her home
: > in Connecticut,calls her Lady Sarah Spencer-Churchill,her maiden name.
: >
: > Her middle name was Consuelo,after her Vanderbilt ancestress.
: > The Times inexpertly lists her as "L." Spencer-Churchill.
: >
:
: (j1b)
:
: 2.2.15.3.3.2.8.13.Lady Albertha Hamilton (1847-7 Jan 1932); m.8 Nov
: 1869 (div 1883) George Charles Spencer-Churchill, Marquess of Blandford
: [later, 8th Duke of Marlborough] (1844-1892)
: 2.2.15.3.3.2.8.13.1.Charles Richard John Spencer-Churchill, 9th Duke of
: Marlborough (13 Nov 1871-30 Jun 1934); m.1st 6 Nov 1895 (div 1921)
: Consuelo Vanderbilt (d.6 Dec 1964); m.2d 25 Jun 1921 Gladys Marie Deacon
: 2.2.15.3.3.2.8.13.1.1.John Abert Edward William Spencer-Churchill, 10th
: Duke of Marlborough (18 Sep 1897-11 Mar 1972); m.17 Feb 1920
: Hon.Alexandra Mary Cadogan ***
: [snip]
: 2.2.15.3.3.2.8.13.1.1.3.Lady Sarah Consuelo Spencer-Churchill, b.17 Dec
: 1921; m.1st 15 May 1943 (div 1966) Edwin Russell; m.2d 11 Nov 1966 (div
: 1967) Guy Burgos; m.3d Philadelphia 1967 Theodoros Roubanis
: 2.2.15.3.3.2.8.13.1.1.3.1.Serena Mary Churchill Russell, b.1944; m.1st
: 1966 (div 1967)R.Stephen Salant; m.2d 1968 Neil McConnell
: 2.2.15.3.3.2.8.13.1.1.3.1.1.Alastair Albert David McConnell, b.1981
: 2.2.15.3.3.2.8.13.1.1.3.1.2.Morgan Alexandra Salant, b.1973
: 2.2.15.3.3.2.8.13.1.1.3.1.3.Lucinda Mary Salant, b.1975
: 2.2.15.3.3.2.8.13.1.1.3.1.4.Consuelo Lily McConnell, b.1978
: 2.2.15.3.3.2.8.13.1.1.3.2.Consuelo Sarah Russell, b.1946; m.1st 1968
: (div 1969) James Toback; m.2d 1970 Mark Schulman; m.3d William Judson
: 2.2.15.3.3.2.8.13.1.1.3.2.1.Nicholas N, b.1976
: 2.2.15.3.3.2.8.13.1.1.3.2.2.Ian N, b.1978
: 2.2.15.3.3.2.8.13.1.1.3.3.Alexandra Brenda Russell, b.1949; m.1970
: Timothy Biech
: 2.2.15.3.3.2.8.13.1.1.3.4.Jacqueline Russell, b.1958; m.Eugene Williams
:
: [and her sister who is still alive in the Theroff files]
: 2.2.15.3.3.2.8.13.1.1.4.Lady Caroline Spencer-Churchill, b.12 Nov 1923;
: m.5 Dec 1946 Charles Hugo Waterhouse
:
: -------
:
: Two things occur to me - firstly the dates of the divorce of Serena
: Russell (now Mrs Neil McConnell) to her first husband seem to be wrong,
Burke's has the same date.
: given that two daughters were born to her 1973 and 1975 bearing the
: name of her first husband;
The husbands' paternity is all bollixed,per Burke's.
The first two children are by the second husband,not the first,
and the second two by third husband Neil Roxburgh Balfour.
: secondly that the information on the two
: younger daughters appears incomplete.
Burke's has no more on them.
Louis Epstein
: In article <8shds7$cjc$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
: Shinjinee Sen <ssen_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
: > In article <8shcf5$bl7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
: >
: > How is Neil Balfour related to the third husband of Princess Elizabeth
: > of Yugoslavia,
:
: I presume you mean 2nd?
:
: Neil Balfour m. 1st (as her 2nd husband)Princess Elizabeth
: m. 2nd. (as her 2nd husnand) Serena Russell
Neil is Serena's 3rd husband,after Salant and McConnell.
: Serena, Pss Elizabeth & Lady Sarah S-C were all pictured in PdV earlier
: this year at the wedding of Elisabeth & Neil's only child Nicholas.
:
: Andrew
Graham Clark
>
> What exactly is a 'socialite', other than another description for
> 'someone who does nothing useful'?
Presumably somebody whose main occupation is socialising. Nice work
if you can get it. Not a job that I see advertised very often, though.
G.
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Louis Epstein
: Thanks Ronald (especially!) and Louis for the information. I hope that
: Paul (Theroff) is following this thread... if not, I will have to
: forward all this to him.
There is now an obituary for her on the Telegraph's website.
elm...@my-deja.com
I found this obituary to be much more informative than the one in the
New York Times as far as the life she led. NY just listed her next of
kin.
Andy Dingley
>What exactly is a 'socialite', other than another description for
>'someone who does nothing useful'?
They go to parties with other socialites, thus keeping them from under
the feet of the likes of you and I. A tough role, but I'm glad they do
it.
I was on holiday this week (Lundy Island) but as it was far too
crowded I came back early.
Brad Ferguson
<edwin...@virgin.net> wrote:
> Andy Dingley wrote:
> >
> > >What exactly is a 'socialite', other than another description for
> > >'someone who does nothing useful'?
> >
> > They go to parties with other socialites, thus keeping them from under
> > the feet of the likes of you and I. A tough role, but I'm glad they do
> > it.
>
> Socialites get under a lot of things - only the *very* expensive ones go
> under feet.
I thought socialite was what you got after the planet Social exploded.
Edwin King
>
> >What exactly is a 'socialite', other than another description for
> >'someone who does nothing useful'?
>
> They go to parties with other socialites, thus keeping them from under
> the feet of the likes of you and I. A tough role, but I'm glad they do
> it.
Socialites get under a lot of things - only the *very* expensive ones go
under feet.
Edwind