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June 17 in American History
1775 - Battle of Bunker Hill (Colonists lose, but inflict heavy casualties
on the British)
1885 - Statue of Liberty arrives in New York City harbor.
1930 - President Hoover signs the Smoot-Hawley Tariff, a terrible tax (a
whopping quadrupling in tax-rate increases on over 20,000 imports) that
starts the Depression era when other countries do the same to the U.S. in
retaliation (causing a world-wide economic collapse), with *lower* revenues.
Sen. Reed Smoot (R-UT) and Rep. Willis Hawley (R-OR) were both defeated in
the '32 elections as was President Hoover, who supinely submitted to his
party and some business leaders, despite opposing the bill. Unemployment in
1930 was only 7.8% when the Tariff was passed (similar to today's rate), but
jumped to 16.3% in 1931, and then 24.9% in 1932, peaking at 25.1% in 1933.
1932 - The Bonus Army, numbering around 1,000 WW 1 veterans amass at the
Capitol to demand their pensions NOW.
(Gen. Douglas MacArthur later runs them over with Army tanks,
clinching the '32 election loss for Hoover)
1963 - The U.S. Supreme Court rules against requiring Bible verses and the
Lord's Prayer recitals in government schools. Beginning of the decline of
America in uplifting Government authority over a Higher Power, and decline
in determining what is right over what are mere laws by man.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/nations-morals-plunged-after-50-godless-years
1971 - President Nixon declares a War on Drugs, begins the trashing of the
entire Bill of Rights and rule of law.
1972 - Watergate break-in, beginning of the end for the Nixon administration
with his corruption, deceit, & cover-up.
BIRTHDAY
Harry Browne (June 17, 1933 - Mar. 1, 2006) [LP President nominee in 1996,
2000]
1775 - Battle of Bunker Hill (Colonists lose, but inflict heavy casualties
on the British)
1885 - Statue of Liberty arrives in New York City harbor.
1930 - President Hoover signs the Smoot-Hawley Tariff, a terrible tax (a
whopping quadrupling in tax-rate increases on over 20,000 imports) that
starts the Depression era when other countries do the same to the U.S. in
retaliation (causing a world-wide economic collapse), with *lower* revenues.
Sen. Reed Smoot (R-UT) and Rep. Willis Hawley (R-OR) were both defeated in
the '32 elections as was President Hoover, who supinely submitted to his
party and some business leaders, despite opposing the bill. Unemployment in
1930 was only 7.8% when the Tariff was passed (similar to today's rate), but
jumped to 16.3% in 1931, and then 24.9% in 1932, peaking at 25.1% in 1933.
1932 - The Bonus Army, numbering around 1,000 WW 1 veterans amass at the
Capitol to demand their pensions NOW.
(Gen. Douglas MacArthur later runs them over with Army tanks,
clinching the '32 election loss for Hoover)
1963 - The U.S. Supreme Court rules against requiring Bible verses and the
Lord's Prayer recitals in government schools. Beginning of the decline of
America in uplifting Government authority over a Higher Power, and decline
in determining what is right over what are mere laws by man.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/nations-morals-plunged-after-50-godless-years
1971 - President Nixon declares a War on Drugs, begins the trashing of the
entire Bill of Rights and rule of law.
1972 - Watergate break-in, beginning of the end for the Nixon administration
with his corruption, deceit, & cover-up.
BIRTHDAY
Harry Browne (June 17, 1933 - Mar. 1, 2006) [LP President nominee in 1996,
2000]
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Kenny McCormack
Jun 18, 2013, 9:09:15 AM6/18/13
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In article <o4l0s81m2hsr7g810...@4ax.com>,
Terry del Fuego <t_del...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>by a court decision. Are you sure He's even really a god? It's
>possible that someone's been playing an unfunny joke on you.
You have to admit that this new personnna of Roy DeLoon as religious
fruitcake is an eye-opener. Loonytarianism and religious fruitcakeism
ought to be incompatible positions.
--
Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is
no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
- John Kenneth Galbraith -
Terry del Fuego <t_del...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:56:55 -0500, "An Unemployed Eight-Year-Old
>Girl" <m...@sb.net> wrote:
>
>>1963 - The U.S. Supreme Court rules against requiring Bible verses and the
>>Lord's Prayer recitals in government schools. Beginning of the decline of
>>America in uplifting Government authority over a Higher Power, and decline
>>in determining what is right over what are mere laws by man.
>>http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/nations-morals-plunged-after-50-godless-years
>
>I think it's sad that your God is such a pansy that He can be stopped
>Girl" <m...@sb.net> wrote:
>
>>1963 - The U.S. Supreme Court rules against requiring Bible verses and the
>>Lord's Prayer recitals in government schools. Beginning of the decline of
>>America in uplifting Government authority over a Higher Power, and decline
>>in determining what is right over what are mere laws by man.
>>http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/nations-morals-plunged-after-50-godless-years
>
>by a court decision. Are you sure He's even really a god? It's
>possible that someone's been playing an unfunny joke on you.
You have to admit that this new personnna of Roy DeLoon as religious
fruitcake is an eye-opener. Loonytarianism and religious fruitcakeism
ought to be incompatible positions.
--
Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is
no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
- John Kenneth Galbraith -
Roy DeLoon
Jun 18, 2013, 11:13:47 AM6/18/13
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On 6/18/2013 8:09 AM, Kenny McCormack wrote:
> In article <o4l0s81m2hsr7g810...@4ax.com>,
> Terry del Fuego <t_del...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:56:55 -0500, "An Unemployed Eight-Year-Old
>> Girl" <m...@sb.net> wrote:
>>
>>> 1963 - The U.S. Supreme Court rules against requiring Bible verses and the
>>> Lord's Prayer recitals in government schools. Beginning of the decline of
>>> America in uplifting Government authority over a Higher Power, and decline
>>> in determining what is right over what are mere laws by man.
>>> http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/nations-morals-plunged-after-50-godless-years
>>
>> I think it's sad that your God is such a pansy that He can be stopped
>> by a court decision. Are you sure He's even really a god? It's
>> possible that someone's been playing an unfunny joke on you.
>
> You have to admit that this new personnna of Roy DeLoon as religious
> fruitcake is an eye-opener. Loonytarianism and religious fruitcakeism
> ought to be incompatible positions.
>
Fruitcakeism is common in those who consider worldNUTdaily a source of
> In article <o4l0s81m2hsr7g810...@4ax.com>,
> Terry del Fuego <t_del...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:56:55 -0500, "An Unemployed Eight-Year-Old
>> Girl" <m...@sb.net> wrote:
>>
>>> 1963 - The U.S. Supreme Court rules against requiring Bible verses and the
>>> Lord's Prayer recitals in government schools. Beginning of the decline of
>>> America in uplifting Government authority over a Higher Power, and decline
>>> in determining what is right over what are mere laws by man.
>>> http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/nations-morals-plunged-after-50-godless-years
>>
>> I think it's sad that your God is such a pansy that He can be stopped
>> by a court decision. Are you sure He's even really a god? It's
>> possible that someone's been playing an unfunny joke on you.
>
> You have to admit that this new personnna of Roy DeLoon as religious
> fruitcake is an eye-opener. Loonytarianism and religious fruitcakeism
> ought to be incompatible positions.
>
"news" [lowercase].
Kenny McCormack
Jun 18, 2013, 1:32:59 PM6/18/13
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In article <kpptfc$vcv$1...@emac1.its.lsu.edu>,
ITA on that one.
I actually couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Roy DeLoon quoting WND.
I though surely someone had substituted "J" [*] for RDL.
[*] "J" is a lunatic who posts in the RCC groups (mostly about abortion.
He uses WND extensively as his "source") - you may not have seen his brand
of lunacy here if you aren't familiar with (or don't read) the RCC and/or
political groups.
--
(This discussion group is about C, ...)
Wrong. It is only OCCASIONALLY a discussion group
about C; mostly, like most "discussion" groups, it is
off-topic Rorsharch [sic] revelations of the childhood
traumas of the participants...
I actually couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Roy DeLoon quoting WND.
I though surely someone had substituted "J" [*] for RDL.
[*] "J" is a lunatic who posts in the RCC groups (mostly about abortion.
He uses WND extensively as his "source") - you may not have seen his brand
of lunacy here if you aren't familiar with (or don't read) the RCC and/or
political groups.
--
(This discussion group is about C, ...)
Wrong. It is only OCCASIONALLY a discussion group
about C; mostly, like most "discussion" groups, it is
off-topic Rorsharch [sic] revelations of the childhood
traumas of the participants...
Sauve Maria
Jun 18, 2013, 2:09:37 PM6/18/13
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On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:09:15 AM UTC-7, Kenny McCormack wrote:
>
> You have to admit that this new personnna of Roy DeLoon as religious
>
> fruitcake is an eye-opener. Loonytarianism and religious fruitcakeism
>
> ought to be incompatible positions.
>
I'm not judging or making a diagnosis, but does Geschwind syndrome fit into this?
>
> You have to admit that this new personnna of Roy DeLoon as religious
>
> fruitcake is an eye-opener. Loonytarianism and religious fruitcakeism
>
> ought to be incompatible positions.
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geschwind_syndrome
Sarah Ehrett
Jun 18, 2013, 2:38:04 PM6/18/13
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On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 05:39:07 -0700, Terry del Fuego
<t_del...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/nations-morals-plunged-after-50-godless-years
>
>I think it's sad that your God is such a pansy that He can be stopped
>by a court decision. Are you sure He's even really a god? It's
>possible that someone's been playing an unfunny joke on you.
The failure here is not with God but with man.
<t_del...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/nations-morals-plunged-after-50-godless-years
>
>I think it's sad that your God is such a pansy that He can be stopped
>by a court decision. Are you sure He's even really a god? It's
>possible that someone's been playing an unfunny joke on you.
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Sauve Maria
Jun 18, 2013, 7:07:55 PM6/18/13
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On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:30:31 PM UTC-7, News wrote:
>
> They were certainly revolutionary, as praying in schools and
>
> acknowledging a Higher Power (than mere government) was routine, and had a
>
> huge impact on developing the economic growth of the nation from 1607 to
>
> 1971...
Of course, slavery had nothing to do with it.
Or the thievery of other peoples' lands.
To say prayer had everything to do with it, is a fool's hope.
How would you explain the USSR's GDP growth, which tripled in the years between 1970 and 1990?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Soviet_Union_GDP.gif
>
> They were certainly revolutionary, as praying in schools and
>
> acknowledging a Higher Power (than mere government) was routine, and had a
>
> huge impact on developing the economic growth of the nation from 1607 to
>
> 1971...
Of course, slavery had nothing to do with it.
Or the thievery of other peoples' lands.
To say prayer had everything to do with it, is a fool's hope.
How would you explain the USSR's GDP growth, which tripled in the years between 1970 and 1990?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Soviet_Union_GDP.gif
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Kenny McCormack
Jun 19, 2013, 10:16:06 AM6/19/13
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In article <8se3s85goslm6r8ll...@4ax.com>,
>WND promised me a nice rack for eating tofu, but they lied and I still
>have to leave the house.
Now there's a reference too obscure even for me.
But, to amplify on what I said earlier: rel-fruit-ism is all about
enslaving yourself to earthly masters. A very strange position indeed for
a supposedly Loonytarian to take.
--
People who say they'll vote for someone else because Obama couldn't solve
all of Bush's messes are like people complaining that he couldn't cure cancer,
so they'll go and vote for cancer.
Terry del Fuego <t_del...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:09:15 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com
>(Kenny McCormack) wrote:
>
>>You have to admit that this new personnna of Roy DeLoon as religious
>>fruitcake is an eye-opener. Loonytarianism and religious fruitcakeism
>>ought to be incompatible positions.
>
>She has repeatedly quoted WND in the past. My stock response is that
>(Kenny McCormack) wrote:
>
>>You have to admit that this new personnna of Roy DeLoon as religious
>>fruitcake is an eye-opener. Loonytarianism and religious fruitcakeism
>>ought to be incompatible positions.
>
>WND promised me a nice rack for eating tofu, but they lied and I still
>have to leave the house.
Now there's a reference too obscure even for me.
But, to amplify on what I said earlier: rel-fruit-ism is all about
enslaving yourself to earthly masters. A very strange position indeed for
a supposedly Loonytarian to take.
--
People who say they'll vote for someone else because Obama couldn't solve
all of Bush's messes are like people complaining that he couldn't cure cancer,
so they'll go and vote for cancer.
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Kenny McCormack
Jun 19, 2013, 2:47:11 PM6/19/13
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In article <cok3s81nh5g5dmf60...@4ax.com>,
>It occurred to me later that AU8YOG is angry because government
>schools can't force the currently state-approved religion down kids'
>throats. I'm not sure how that proscription *isn't* Libertarian. I
>don't find any meaningful difference between prayer forced by a
>government schoolteacher and a government schoolteacher standing up in
>front of impressionable kids and saying "There is no God and your
>parents are lying to you about it." Best, it seems to me, to leave
>the government schools largely quiet on the matter and let those who
>need it attend religious schools...or atheist ones, if sufficient
>numbers of atheists are actually insecure enough to feel the need for
>such a thing.
Very well put. As I said, I just can't believe supposedly Loonytarian
AU8YOG is now presenting as a religious nutter. Totally blows me away.
>Also, not entirely by my own choice, I have five cats. It seems that
>by the logic of AU8YOG, I am denying the existence of dogs.
Well, aren't you?
--
One of the best lines I've heard lately:
Obama could cure cancer tomorrow, and the Republicans would be
complaining that he had ruined the pharmaceutical business.
(Heard on Stephanie Miller = but the sad thing is that there is an awful lot
of direct truth in it. We've constructed an economy in which eliminating
cancer would be a horrible disaster. There are many other such examples.)
Terry del Fuego <t_del...@hotmail.com> wrote:
...
>It occurred to me later that AU8YOG is angry because government
>schools can't force the currently state-approved religion down kids'
>throats. I'm not sure how that proscription *isn't* Libertarian. I
>don't find any meaningful difference between prayer forced by a
>government schoolteacher and a government schoolteacher standing up in
>front of impressionable kids and saying "There is no God and your
>parents are lying to you about it." Best, it seems to me, to leave
>the government schools largely quiet on the matter and let those who
>need it attend religious schools...or atheist ones, if sufficient
>numbers of atheists are actually insecure enough to feel the need for
>such a thing.
Very well put. As I said, I just can't believe supposedly Loonytarian
AU8YOG is now presenting as a religious nutter. Totally blows me away.
>Also, not entirely by my own choice, I have five cats. It seems that
>by the logic of AU8YOG, I am denying the existence of dogs.
Well, aren't you?
--
One of the best lines I've heard lately:
Obama could cure cancer tomorrow, and the Republicans would be
complaining that he had ruined the pharmaceutical business.
(Heard on Stephanie Miller = but the sad thing is that there is an awful lot
of direct truth in it. We've constructed an economy in which eliminating
cancer would be a horrible disaster. There are many other such examples.)
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